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Between 2020-11-20 00:00:00Z and 2020-11-21 00:00:00Z

I just noticed that in TW you lose the double jump if you jump too close to an edge. Is this intentional?

i think technically you are indeed off ground when that happens

yea

15:43

15:43

the second jump loses the double jump (edited)

15:43

because already past the edge

15:44

i wish there was a little bit of coyote time =/

not sure if we really want that tbh. but might be worth a try for play testing.

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Makes sense if you're already in the air

15:53

We could have a different bind for double jump and by default space sends both

15:53

Though I vote for KISS :p (edited)

just dont jump off the edge

15:54

u have a lot of space in the first place anyways

ye. thats why i don't think we actually need a buffered ground jump time.

15:57

if it is something like a buffered jump, i'd be more supportive. ~~but teeworlds doesn't need a buffered jump since it has some other ways to increase the allowed jump time frame.~~ (edited)

i guess i'm just so used to games registering jump normally slightly after the ledge (aka coyote time) that it feels weird when it's not there (edited)

but again. we can try.

15:58

it is indeed a common practice in game design.

15:59

~~same with buffered jump~~

16:02

i think teeworlds always had a retro vibe to it in its design.

16:02

but if we want it to make the game more modern feeling. this can be included in the water update since that's gonna be a huge change too. (edited)

16:03

that was a very big IF tho

no

16:03

wait what is a buffered jump

16:03

also that would break like every single ddrace map

we dont have to worry abiut buffered ju.p

16:03

i dont think ddr will ever update their physics

i mean i hope it ports to 0.8

16:04

but if theres weird physics changes it probably wont happen

it still doesnt need to update their physics even if they port it to 0.8

meh

16:05

imo jumping midair doesnt make too much sense

thats not the main concern for their for not porting now

the only change i want to jump is if u hold space it'll autojump

16:05

so u can continuously jump w/out dj'ing

also we don't have the buffered jump problem since we allows you to jump by holding spacebar that hasn't triggered a jump yet.

16:06

usually games allows you to press jump a few frames/ticks before hitting the ground. and still be able to jump

ye but dont u need to waste dj before u can do that

16:06

or else you just dj

buffered jump is a different thing

16:07

dont worry about it

o well

16:07

is there like a planned changelog for 0.8

their is a milestone on github

16:08

but there are only a few issues.

16:08

0.7.6 still got a long way to go.

16:09

for me personally i think cjk and ime are big enough update to get me hyped already.

16:10

ultrafastparrot

0.7.6 was supposed to be a "Fall" Update

waat is cjk ime

although ime hasn't been supported ye

is that text stuff

ye. input method editor. just ways to type

16:11

Image attachment

16:11

found a way to let SDL2 hand over the system message so we can pull IME info.

16:12

but the text input overall is still pretty rough. i want chat, console and ui textbox to have the same logic and preferably text selection and copy/paste before hack in the ime support.

ye

16:13

oh yeah copy/paste and clicking on links would be cool

but i will be hacking in the ime asap for ddnet since their entire text engine is more or less a hack (edited)

ye

16:14

i hope 0.8 has UI overhaul too

16:15

also didnt 0.7 get player antiping added

16:15

i cant find it

no settings yet

16:15

cl_predict_players 1

no such command for me

on master branch or 0.7.5

16:16

0.7.5 doesn't have it yet.

16:16

so that might be another big thing coming in 0.7.6 i guess? not sure if it is really big tho.

16:19

i remember talking to Learath2 about a ui layout to c++ code generator similar to what we did with the protocol network.py

16:19

but we might need a really detailed UI design principles to make that happen

the whole 0.7 ui / menu layout is just so crammed

16:20

its like playing osu with the lowest circle size

16:20

all the buttons so tiny and cramped (edited)

wasn't 0.6 worse?

16:21

wrt size of UI elements

Image attachment

16:21

like this

16:21

a lot of wasted space

i think we did nuke a lot of screen space. but the functions of each part/button groups are more distinct than 0.6.

16:24

there might be some ways to reclaim some of the vertical spaces.

ah well yeah, I agree, but I think it's a modern design vs old design thing

16:24

some people like it modern

i like it currently as well.

you can click a button on the top right to expand its width

but i do agree it can be a little bit tight. considering what we have to do to make the server filter 'usable'

16:26

also what is this

16:27

should lock mouse to whatever scrollwheel/button it was pressed on

16:27

i press the first scrollbar, transfer to the next and scroll down, then release on the right button, 3 birds with one stone

btw is the server detail thing gone in master?

16:27

i don't think i've ever saw that before

that's a bug, gotta open an issue for that one

plus i never knew there are horizontal scrollbars. if i know i would just make it into scrollregion while i was fixing the scroll speed.

aren't they scrollregions?

i don't think i've seen codes for horizontal scrollbar while i was changing scrollregion so i assume no.

I think @LordSk 🦋 made it so that it can be extended to horizontal scrollbars

also scrollregions uses a distinct rect behind the slider so that doesn't even look like scrollregion visually (edited)

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