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Between 2020-10-30 00:00:00Z and 2020-10-31 00:00:00Z

Oy: hi, wanted to ask the reason for some of the ISO3166 country codes are not used. dune reminded me the irc rules. so I stated it again here.

(again, not a hard rule at all)

just want to say why i'm sending it everywhere :P

huh, you have a rainbow over here

16:44

strange, you don't have it on discord

it is taking my nick from ddnet discord

do you have a rainbow over there? interesting :D

i do

@TsFreddie we just didn't add any flags for them

19:50

probably just because they aren't real countries

Ok

19:52

So the thing is ISO3166 have this independent field specified for each code. The unused ones happens to be non-independent (hence not real country).

19:53

ppl here started to comment on taiwan HongKong and macao flags, which was affecting ddnet as well.

19:54

I'm thinking whether we should fully embrace the ISO standard and fill in the missing ones and separate the non-independent ones with a toggle.

19:55

You know, to avoid ppl seeing the country flags at face value and get angry for no reason.

the unused ones are antarctica and french overseas territories

20:12

we also have non-ISO3166 countries like wales

20:13

don't think adding the unused ones is needed

But i don't really want to just ask you to take out Hong Kong, macao and maybe taiwan. Yet I think it is better to have a way to convey the info that they aren't really country as well.

I think we shouldn't give a fuck and add more flags. I always wanted a Narnia flag

Maybe we can go the unicode notion that they are just "flags" and stop there. So we don't refer them as countries. Which is easier to change too, just need to change some ui string.

20:19

And maybe the data directory.

Something like politics shouldn't be an issue on games

I know. But I'm afraid of stupid ppl jumping on bandwagon. Which happens a lot.

20:22

Normally I wouldn't care. But the conversation is getting more and more heated in the chinese community, which is sad.

and then you have the issue by wich ISO you go, there are countries recognised by some and not all and you don't want to ship a specific game version for each recognition version

add more flags its fun to put a cool lookin flag even if u live like 500 miles away

So what about calling them just flags.

also someone needs to give me discord access

I have a solution: add a winnie pooh flag

Ask dune.

well if u just call them flags we should include all flags, rn its mostly countries right?

this really is a non-issue

20:25

oh no, we have TOO MUCH customization

We are including unicode flags already which is what unicode have. The country ones + the uk countries.

imagine an american opening an issue to add the confederate flag (edited)

20:27

and now imagine a german wanting to add the Reichsflagge

20:27

where to draw the line

ISO3166?

in the end we are talking about a table of pixels

Can't argue with that

on non-ui level we are talking about two chars, so even if you remove the flags, nobody stops you to add them back in

I don't want to remove them

20:30

They've been there forever and they are indeed in iso3166.

20:30

We are just missing a field from iso3166.

20:31

Well two fields, the name cna come in handy for adding a search bar for flag selection.

you could easily add them and do a webcrawler automating this stuff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1

I already did. I'm just asking if we want to utilize the independent field.

don't think it's needed

Tbh if there werent wars hinted from both china and taiwan nobody would care this much. Maybe one or two ppl. Now it is getting the nerve of the entire chinese community lol.

even when you turn it off and can't pick such a flag for urself, u'll see them ingame by others

I don't mind seeing them

20:35

Just a way to say, hey, these are different.

don't think that's needed

20:41

that would feel like doing a statement

20:41

though it's a game and we shouldn't touch that

Right

20:42

What about changing the wording.

20:42

Would it feel the same.

well people tend to think country means a political state though it isn't

20:44

it's also a (sub-) territory

I don't know if ppl call SAR countries as well.

20:47

Well at least we wouldn't but our language aren't english influenced

20:47

Maybe it is a language thing then.

20:50

DDnet change their to country/region. But idk if they made that change under pressure or not.

I agree with Oy that this would feeel like a political statement

Fair enough

20:54

I'll still try to make the search bar tho.

and i can't think of a better word for it. nation or state have a political touch and region doesn't really fit

Flags

20:55

:)

20:57

Anyhow. We don't have to change anything. I can explain better to our community. Just thought to ask first.

20:57

Oy: btw if it is possible, please make the vote reason utf8 as well

well replacing the word country with flag would probably be ok

20:59

Dune: what do u think?

20:59

TsFreddie could you open an issue for the utf8 reason thing?

Will do

TsFreddie about the textrender pr: could you put the statements after f.e. a if condition in the next line

21:08

makes it easier to read

21:08

will take a look at it tomorrow

sorry I don't get it

21:10

Put the statements after what.

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2704/files#diff-b09c8546eeddd124cbab6e446dafb29486254042c025434af902307e7826a0f1R19 return <-- next line

Textrender Refactoring and Improvements by TsFreddie · Pull Request...

A mega PR regarding Textrender This PR does three four things: Refactor text.cpp Reduce stutter when rendering glyphs Add multi-font fallback support as well as regional variant switching Improve ...

Oy: I think both are fine. The ISO norm is a good shield against political concerns either way

yeah

Oy: could you put it as a code review on github. couldn't see which piece of code were you talking about on mobile.

21:15

it is later here. :P

TsFreddie: ctrl-f return

21:16

e.g. if(!m_pConfig->m_ClShowUserId) return;

Oh

there're lots of lines like this: if(condition) return bla: <- return bla should be in the next line

I see

21:17

Will do

21:18

I don't know why I wasn't getting it. :(

np ;)

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