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mfw my sprites aren't on the screen :(

what can cause Sprites not to load at all? ^^

I might go mental here ^^

fixed it

01:21

FINALLY

kratos joined the server. 2020-10-29 12:46:06Z

hello everyone

12:47

does anyone know what you call that thing where you pull someone and he wakes up then u drop and he pulls u and so on so forth till you ,make it to the end?

Uh, ddrace?

ncanfeo joined the server. 2020-10-29 13:17:04Z

After-parties?

wuhmm

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anyone trynna play?

isn't that hammer fly while one player is stuck in freeze tiles?

18:50

the person hooked is hammered, unfreezed and then the one unfreezing falls down, while the other party does the same thing until they reach the end of that part. (edited)

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19:36

good lord is this more difficult than I expected

Oh no what did you do. Is he drown.

he is drown

19:43

and honestly

19:43

this is hell :D

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19:49

yeah I doubt this thing is quite plausible

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19:50

the transparency is always gonna make this thing a bit weird

19:50

and I won't just make the character suddenly disappear, should I? ^^

do we really need tee drowning pose?

@Stiopa i think a simple kill effect is enough

20:01

Like an normal kill xd

ye ye I know

20:01

that was the original plan

20:01

but I was pitched an idea to have a drowning animation

20:01

so I decided to give it a try ^^

make default death effect after 1 second of flow

maybe like a special sound for drowning would work

use the tee cry sound

20:02

its creepy

20:02

custom servers had it when i was smaller and it was scary for me

soo, a second of slowly descending and then pop?

never heard that

turns out that pressure of water kills drowned tees and makes them pop. (edited)

@Stiopa do you know which crying sound i mean? xD

not sure

just output it

20:04

for testing purpose

teefault cry 01 and 02?

SOUND_TEE_CRY

20:05

19

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just both,

20:05

it scared me, it randomly appeared on modded servers back when i was younger xD

20:05

and another unused sound is SOUND_HOOK_LOOP

20:06

i really like that one tho, using it for jetpack in my mod

20:06

instead of normal gun sound

jetpack would be a intresting powerup

oh yeah

20:06

I know this sound :D

20:06

forgot it existed

20:07

where did I hear it... I can't recall (edited)

@Zatline but it would've to be nerfed, like the one on infclass

20:07

the one infclass has is actually really nice, just a bit less force and i think it would work nice for some vanilla maps

u have a video of it?

let me see

20:09

ill record one

20:10

uploading

20:11

its really not too op

20:11

and fits vanilla style i think

20:11

check the refilling and how fast it uses the ammo

20:11

https://streamable.com/6l6bvw

20:12

i was holding fire for when i shot, so the slow down works very nicely

Jetpack the powerup that comes with the water patch :d

20:13

anyway I guess I will store my weird water animation stuff on some offshoot branch o:

so u think jet pack should come in form of a gun @fokkonaut ?

i guess, thats how people are used to it

20:15

this controlling sheme at least should not be changed

well ya would also balance it a bit better I guess

20:16

I feel jetpack plus gun could be OP

it doesnt have to be a gun

20:16

can be another pickup

20:16

but the control of this should stay the same

20:16

people are used to this for ages, from mods like ddrace and infclass

20:16

and it feels natural aswell

yeah but how would u shoot then? ^^

well, maybe jetpack is like a broom xd

20:17

you cant shoot while flying (edited)

20:17

would require weapon changing mid-air :D

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example (dont pay attention to the grenade itself, just to showcase how it would work): https://streamable.com/3ovx79

20:19

as you can see here, it should not be too op in a fight

20:19

the jetpack refills slowly

ya would be better I guess

slow enough*

20:19

so jetpack should be an actually weapon, something like a broom

20:19

would make sense, we have wooden hammers and other small guns, i dont think an actual jetpack would make sense

20:23

https://github.com/necropotame/teeworlds-infclass/blob/master/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L932-L934

20:23

this seems to be the code for it, I guess

20:23

https://github.com/necropotame/teeworlds-infclass/blob/master/src/game/server/entities/character.cpp#L1170-L1202

hmmm

20:23

seems that I will have my hands busy after water

you mean with an actual broom design and pickup? :o

I would like to test a couple of ideas regarding new guns / new power-ups

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20:26

necropotame is such a beast

20:26

this is fucking quads based

20:26

it lightens the selected area

20:27

made using his teeuniverse editor i think

20:27

and the skins are inside the mapfile, as a fucking normal 0.6 skin .png file

20:27

the server completes it somehow

20:27

its just amazing

20:27

its all open source but i am too stupid to understand it

yes

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ohh that would allow map themes with theme costums or something like example desert -> tees get cowboy hats

20:28

this is vanilla compatible

20:28

0.6 tho

btw. intresting tileset u playing on .. a bit too 3d-ish looking but the concept is nice

Did you never see it?

no

Just join an "infclass" server on 0.6

I imagine that's a map envelope?

me don't have 0.6 :p

Plus broadcast?

@TsFreddie yes, it is, but they usually cant interact with inputs or something, its his mapconverter and teeuniverse stuff

20:31

also as said, the skins are put together by the server, then sent to the client

20:31

in the editor there is only the skinfile

20:31

vanilla 0.6 .png

20:31

its huge work, i am really sad you guys dont know of this, necropotame is a legend

tee_thinking

20:33

Don't know what.

20:34

~~We been hosting chn infclass for a good while now.~~

20:36

~~I just don't play it.~~

ok

themadman

20:38

Idk why I don't want to play anything other than fng.

orehusstiker

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https://github.com/necropotame/teeworlds-infclass/blob/master/src/engine/server/mapconverter.cpp

necropotame/teeworlds-infclass

Infection Mod with a class system for TeeWorlds . Contribute to necropotame/teeworlds-infclass development by creating an account on GitHub.

And I haven't made any server mod for a good while now. I really want to make sure 0.7 is good to use and maybe have a 0.6 comoat layer before I made any gamemode.

@TsFreddie pls explain

Explain what themadman

themadman

what you see in the link

@TsFreddie do you know anything about chinese battlefield server?

something like AddTeeLayer()

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20:40

tried to make blue star (edited)

20:40

got a purple star instead

lol

or pink :D

20:41

it's blue outside water

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well didn't someone say that only 1 star out of the 3 is actually used as damage indicator?

it is true

20:42

the code only contains STAR01 sprite^^

could replace one of the unused stars and make a water version

well I'm testing the different dmg indicator color since it's the last thing on my trello

something like AddTeeLayer()

@fokkonaut I mean what are there to explain. He injected extra quads into a layer using teeskin as a texture, packed em as a standard map binary and sent the map "file" from the memory to clients. By the time a client joined, every quad layer is "made" at "run time".

there were probably other suggestions but I didn't put them into the trello ^^

@TsFreddie yea, okay, makes sense. But how can he do quads based on input? That would mean he could basically show whatever he likes whenever he likes

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But thats not how quads work

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usually

20:44

envelopes*

Envelope is controlled by time/ticks

yes

Just sent "spoofed" tick info. To show the correct animation frame. Input is there already

hackish thing

my code is full of hacks, is that a problem?

mine too

therefore no issue!

ive never said that

You can do this without the map converter thing I'd imagine. You just need to craft the envelope yourself I think.

did i say there is any problem

hmm

did anyone say you said there is a problem

stiopa asked (edited)

no

20:46

he asked

20:46

whether it is a problem

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true

20:46

xd

I was going to make a pin password input for authentication (edited)

@gerdoe im tired

same

I also have a note about customizable color of diving gear @Zatline

Then 0.7 happened and I don't want to make a mod that no one plays.

20:47

GhostHeart

20:47

And I don't really want to use ddnet as codebase.

new 0.6 mods aren't super played either :t

@Stiopa pls make it so every tee can have a custom diving gear color, not one thats applied for all tees

20:47

@Stiopa just another entry to the skin packet :D

yaaay

20:48

larger packets!

its so huge already

20:48

xd

I can force chinese player play my mods which is a privilege that I somehow have

o:

I wanted to make a matchmaking system where you just enter your pin with your mouse when you join. (edited)

20:50

tee_thinking

then some proxy magic that redirect you to the match server

matchmaking in teeworlds... good luck

Do you guys know how some servers made these transport tiles that move you to another server?

what servers did that? (edited)

bw for example

that is the blocker stuff?

ye

Just sent a map change and redirect packets to another server.

that simple?

I mean what else is there to it. It sounds like a proxy, and probably would work like a proxy too.

hm. So this would probably mean splitting the sprite into a colored and noncolored part

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And you do need the lobby to work as a proxy tho. I don't think we have a way to transfer socket or redirect ip address in client.

20:56

So the lobby server is both a server and a proxy client. It need to know which game server each packet is supposed to go to. I think the game server doesn't need to know the client is a lobby server.

20:57

Plus you can probably protect the game server by only allowing the proxy servers' ip to connect.

nah, you can also direct connect

Either way

21:01

Currently I still think coding for vanilla client is more fun tho. Plus I want CJK asap so I need to keep an eye on the progress here.

21:03

After the texrender. There are more works to be done to generalize text input logic and IME.

@TsFreddie u stated yesterday that dynamic water would be possible right

I think so

21:09

Haven't tried anything yet. But it should be possible given how we've been drawing UI.

https://gamedevelopment.tutsplus.com/tutorials/make-a-splash-with-dynamic-2d-water-effects--gamedev-236

Make a Splash With Dynamic 2D Water Effects

Sploosh! In this tutorial, I'll show you how you can use simple math, physics, and particle effects to simulate great looking 2D water waves and droplets. Note: Although this tutorial is written...

21:10

have u taken a look at this paper?

I looked at the video. Didn't check the code.

21:15

Also I'd say we should keep the "wave" much smaller. Preferably keep them within one tile height so we don't need anything fancy on the server physics.

21:16

Do you want me to take a crack at it? I still have like two issues that I would like to do on master.

hmmm

21:16

seems possible

yes pls take a crack at it I think you have the ability to make dynamic water a thing

But if anyone want to do it before me. Just take a look at the boradcast backdrop. You can probably draw triangles using the freeformitem thing.

21:19

How are you drawing the water currently?

sprites

Ok

tile sized sprites

21:20

if it is the top water tile, mod x coordinate by 2

Lol hack master

if (0) pick one of the 16 frames of the first collmn

this image

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if(1) pick one of the 16 frames of the second collumn

equals this animation

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if not on the top, just take the full one

Yeah, we should just draw water with triangles. Then we can have any color we want and even with gradient

gradient would be awesome for deep water

I'll take a look sometime

it's still drawing part, right?

21:22

we can't make dynamic water quite yet, can we? ^^

Wdym drawing part

21:22

Oh is it visual only?

21:22

Yes

21:22

And it probably should be

water physics will be still handled tile based and graphics dynamic

That's why I think the wave should be kept within one tile even if we have dynamic water splash and stuff. (edited)

there can be a problem if a wave goes on land

tee_thinking

it won't if it is within one tile height tho

yep!

21:25

that's why I commented it just now :p

Should look almost the same with your current solution but with less noticable patterns

well I'd like to have an offset on water so waves can have some room up and down

well if we make the water uh

21:25

too low

21:26

then there might be a problem of tees literally floating on top of water, more so than now

https://gyazo.com/2435f38c95e49da58b125b291a187276

Well if it goes up and down the server physics would be much more difficult to make with a tile based map

21:27

And probably become less KISS and be rejected. Just saying. sonk

sonk

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21:28

the tee already looks a bit like it's literally floating

Bring the physics down half a tile if you can?

ya the tee should be half in the water when floating imo

yes

Idk how you did it currently. But it looks solvable.

rn it's a simple tile check

21:35

check if the tee is within that tile and apply stuff on it

21:36

I am able to think of a hacky way to do it rn but it will add like extra two checks ;d

https://gyazo.com/e32e85592c1eb76594bfb85390fd62ab

hmm

this is what I imagine tile based waves

hmmm I now kind of want to try this... maybe over the weekend ^^

that's what i mean with offset of 0.5 tiles so that waves have room and don't strand (edited)

I think that this is totally plausible

yeah it should work if the water just extends half a tile in each direction from the original tiles

Nin_ joined the server. 2020-10-29 21:56:48Z

I think a quarter-circle corner is the smallest possible tile, anything smaller looks weird anyway

https://gyazo.com/ccb43273bc774c1c28558f61639c3b0b

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22:10

half surface done

22:11

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22:12

looks better now on animated water ^^

looks also better on this still snapshot

so the discrepancy issue should be solved like this

22:13

well, no. It's a bit hacky atm so no, it should not be solved like this, but for the purposes of testing it works

22:13

if animated water becomes a reality it can be easily standardized :)

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indeed it seems like we can draw freeform shapes up to 4 sides

22:24

if I understand this right

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