Teeworlds - development

oh no this doesn't look right

not random is still pretty bad.

05:09

(it wasn't random before either, but the pattern was off a bit.)

05:09

oh wait

05:15

try counting how many shots without pausing or replaying

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we can ofc do this ^, but i don't like that the angle information that we suppose to convey got turned over 90 degrees at the end.

i feel like i'm spamming

05:57

i'll organize some better way to see comparisons instead of spamming videos here.

ah, found the color coding damageind attempt, so we want something better than color coding. (edited)

is this subtle? (edited)

1 of the stars is slower than the other after the first laser shot :o @TsFreddie

slower ones are health damage

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09:26

so non heart dmg is faster?

ye, they disappear earlier (edited)

09:26

just experiments with different animations instead of only color coding the armor damage

@Dune how do you like this ^ currently.

@TsFreddie looks good but why is the damage coming from the opposite side of the tee when it's gun and from the near side when it's rifle?

Server sent it that way currently

15:04

Server sent it that way currently

15:04

We can fix it but older server will still look like this.

15:04

We can fix it but older server will still look like this.

ok

15:05

ok

why does it get towards player with laser?

15:05

when you hit

he just said it

where

directly above

15:06

dune asked the same

fuck

15:06

i didnt saw

15:06

sry then

@TsFreddie just fix it serverside too

15:06

thats no problem

it's a server bug yes

Will do

15:07

Can I replace star2 or star3 in game.png for the armor damage?

15:08

What were they originally designed for?

people with custom gameskins will cry

Right. I'll try to color the star then. But I don't know if I can make a yellow sprite look silverish with only codes.

should be done in the image, i guess

15:10

if its what that is even for

15:10

custom gameskins wont be fucked, they just wouldnt support the silver stars then

15:11

I think we should not always focus on the backwards compatiblity, especially in such a case

Ye, depends on how they draw the other two stars.

Why are there 3 types of stars? Are they just randomly picked all three?

15:11

to be a bit different

Maybe gfx ppl have some idea

I think so, yes @fokkonaut

15:12

I think what we currently have is better than any half-assed solution where you replace some graphics

If star2 and star3 aren't used at all it is pretty safe to replace them I'd say.

@Souly care to try to make a silverish star from scratch?

15:37

https://github.com/TsFreddie/teeworlds/tree/0.7-damageind-angle

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15:38

or should i call zatline for this.

call zatline

15:49

im scared

15:49

i would do something shitty

when I wrote this PR, it was meant to be the ground for a proper (teeish) shield animation

16:01

it also has an impact on gameplay so we have to be extra careful

16:01

if it was just about changing star colors it'd have been done in 071

what kind of shield were you talking about

there's nothing written in stone about this. I tried to write code for some fading, discrete shield animation when damage is armor-only, but it did not look good at all. making animations is harder than I thought :p

emm, like in fortnite?

16:05

like was it supposed to be an animation for armor-only damage alongwith the stars?

16:06

like was it supposed to be an animation for armor-only damage alongwith the stars?

16:07

how do you like it excluding the armor damage then.

I don't know fortnite, there's a lot of artistic freedom to be had in here

16:10

Changing the color of the star is not really it though and it bothers me a bit that it's now become a "oh there's this data in the code now so we must use it"

16:11

i can make more attempts.

16:13

but let's talk about the stars only for now. let's say we strip any armor damage indicators for now.

16:13

but let's talk about the stars only. let's say we strip any armor damage indicators for now. (edited)

16:13

how was the "anti-overlapping pattern" as the replacement for the circle effect?

16:14

how does the "fade outwards" animation looks?

16:14

we can close the angle thing first.

yeah I think it looks great you did a good job with that one

16:20

gotta play with it to make sure

16:21

e.g. what if there are multiple sources of damage at once?

it just shifts angle a bit from the origin angle from the server. so it is only noticeable with stationary tee and stationary hitangle.

sounds good

also "at once" depends on how at once, one tick damages always group together as a single fan shape, that's to make sure shutgun damage looks good.

16:23

if it is not within one tick then it goes to the pattern

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16:24

the "fading out" animation does make counting the pattern harder, i think i should stick with the original animation. since it was made to distinguish armor damage anyway.

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~~but it looks really nice tho~~

the stars are.. gradually moving away? is that on purpose?

17:07

like they stop and run away again :D

ye. it was on purpuse, if you look closely at the armor damage video, the armor damage stars run away faster.

17:10

i took it out for now, since the animation does not serve the purpose of distinguishing armor damage anymore.

17:10

i can make that in a separate PR if you like it.

TsFreddie

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Pull request opened: #2799 Randomly Choose Least Occupied Spawn Points in Survival.

closes #2634 The occupation info/counter is right above the related code, so let's just use that. Tested on a map with only two spawn points. Unless I'm lucky enough to not collide for 50 rounds, it is working.

@TsFreddie about masking the markings have you thought of just modifying the alpha channel of the marking?

https://discordapp.com/channels/407308363031117832/510879693982007316/771320612290428948

18:35

I really like this one @TsFreddie (edited)

18:40

also I think changing the colors of the stars would be the worst approach to this issue

So I didn't do anything with armor damage for now. Just the spread pattern and enabled the angle

18:45

@TsFreddie about masking the markings have you thought of just modifying the alpha channel of the marking?

@Learath2 do I generate multiple marking sprites for each body? I don't know GL enough to have a idea on the performance / vram usage. (edited)

18:47

Like is it possible to change the texture's alpha before rendering and have multiple copies for the same markings with different alpha channels? Wouldn't that need to be a different texture for each alpha shape so you can render multiple tees with the same marking with different mask?

18:47

the easiest way to indicate armor damage is a sound effect

ding

meh, some people play without sound

But I do realize cheat clients can guess ppl's exact armor/health values with relatively good accuracy. (edited)

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Oh wait it is given. Nvm

well ppl without sound on are already disadvantage cus gun sounds

19:16

if u dont want all the advantages u get with sound im sure u dont care about knowing if you're breaking aarmor

@TsFreddie I have no idea either, it's just an idea that popped into my head

19:23

You'd need get one texture handle per tee shape though yeah

Stencil buffer is way easier I guess