Teeworlds - general

01:50

hi small ctf5 bug if anyone wants to fix

01:52

also i think cursors in game.png can use some touch-up (the outlines + colors) (edited)

Can be fixed by clipping I suppose

What's the bug @louis ? I can get under that whole pathway easy and being where you're on screenshot is not something unnatural.

10:02

I mean anyone with a decent skill can fly under the spikes to the other end and sometimes even survive that. (edited)

Some background behind the spikes I believe @Deleted User

I don't see anything wrong there.

10:05

if you mean that shadow that just gives a 2.5d-like look to it.

Pretty sure that's unclipped background, not shadows

grass_main cave visible under unhooks

What is the nature of delays on forum? It takes hours to display new posts.

15:03

Last time I've asked I was assured that's not a premoderation. But it still very like it.

I think there is premoderation now, they were talking about it a while ago. @Dune ^^

Anything can be changed? it seems like someone trying to cure headache by cutting the head. (edited)

15:05

Forum is unusable and that's broken, it's not a solution to anything.

15:07

Sorry for being a little mad about this. It's my second attempt to use a forum and like 6 hours have passed and my messages are still not there. Last time I've waited for a day.

15:07

It feels like a message that nobody is welcome to use a forum at the moment.

there is premoderation now, because spam got out of hand

15:08

if spam calms down we can remove it

15:08

is some delay on the posts such a bad sacrifice?

There is even no notification on a nature of delay. If I haven't discord I'd just leave the forum forever. And I am sure 99% people trying to communicate there just leave as it really looks like a technical problem.

15:09

It's not some delay. It's a total absence of feedback on posting the message.

then that's an issue with the plugin

15:10

no one seems to have skill+motivation to write a good one

What plugin?

that handles the approval requirement for posts

If that's broken then turn it off. Just add recaptcha.

@Dune maybe you could try "authorizing" users that are regular posters to skip premoderation?

I've integrated it last time in like 30 minutes to my website.

I believe it's actual humans that do this

15:11

@Learath2 I'd like to authorize all users that posted at least once until today yeah

How much actual humans spam this forum? 1 message a day?

but again, this needs some skill+motivation that no one seems to have

15:11

@heinrich5991 nicely fixed it so that we don't need to approve users at least

Oh the plugin doesn't support letting people skip premoderation?

@Deleted User more

15:11

just now I went to check your messages and there were 2 spam posts along with them

maybe you could try "authorizing" users that are regular posters to skip premoderation?

That's not a solution. We need messages from new people.

@Learath2 the plugin doesn't seem to have a whole lot of tuneable stuff yeah

15:12

it's punbb

@Dune I can probably patch it for you if you want

@Deleted User then I foresee there is no solution that would be good enough in your eyes with our current manpower

@Deleted User recaptcha wasn't effective

(recaptcha not being effective usually implies that it's people spamming, not bots)

it's people spamming

15:13

we tried various stuff like teeworlds-related questions

Is there a report button on posts?

yes there is

The solution to this is a massive moderation team, we don't even have a massive playerbase

So users can report on spam and it will be go for moderation.

15:13

The solution to this is a massive moderation team

No, solution is users reporting and code reacting to that/

we tried that, it doesn't work

15:14

the spam is massive

So only reported posts or messages will go to premoderation.

i'd imagine it'll be too late and too many spam post before anyone can moderate it afterwards

exactly

the spam is massive

Do they register 1000 accounts?

I'm very active at least twice daily and you still have more chances to see a new spam post than a new real post

15:14

yes

Proof of Work for registration could work

So registration is something that's need to be trottled.

so when you have 100 of posts a week and 1 real it makes more sense to put some approval

even 50 accounts is way too much for almost no mod team.

@Learath2 how about not add malware to the website

Well I don't think that fits the definition of malware

I don't believe in a proof of work here.

You don't believe in anything anyway

hmm?

Anarchies sadly don't work and without enough moderation this kind of thing quickly becomes one

I have motivation to solve this problem and have some knowledge.

china has it easy, everything is ID traceable, you can ban the whole person lol (edited)

proof of work doesn't help here, again, it's real people spamming

@heinrich5991 yeah but it taking 2-3 minutes to create an account might slow them down

I don't just blame. I want to fix this.

(i mean for coorps, we can't do that with teeworlds.cn (edited)

I am not a php specialist but a web developer with experience.

@Deleted User the fix you proposed requires more moderation, where do you propose we get this moderation?

@Deleted User write a pun_bb extension that does what you and we want

@heinrich5991 ddnet uses punb_bb too?

e.g. modify the extension to only get moderation approval for the first ~3 posts

15:17

no

that would be good yeah

what ddnet uses? and how it is fighting spam currently?

approve a post = approve the user

and send a message to the user

@TsFreddie China and Korea have it so easy, just ban someones ID. The only way to actually discourage people from anything is upping consequences

15:18

People are absolute cunts when given anonymity

@Learath2 wechat ID?

Korea has anti-anonymity stuff?

e.g. modify the extension to only get moderation approval for the first ~3 posts

or even first one

@Dune there are korean games that require you register with your ID number

huh

You get one chance to cheat, than you are out

yeay, let's require teeworlds forumers to register with a selfie of themselves next to a teeworlds screen and their driver card

~~id theft~~

the fix you proposed requires more moderation, where do you propose we get this moderation?

we have a chicken and an egg problem here. We don't have users to do moderation with reports/likes because forum is dead. And the forum is dead because we cannot moderate

no

15:20

the forum is dead because it's dead

I want to do something with it. Just let's make a solution to code

15:20

and I will try to do it

I don't think the lack of activity in the forum is much related to that

@Dune have you tried to post anything to forum to only get a page reload with no post in it and no further info?

15:21

It's worst UX experience I can imagine.

yeah, Dune is doing his best to let post pass i'd imagine. and he probably gets a couple of legit posts per day anyway.

@Deleted User so?

I'm sure there is a cryptographic solution to this somewhere. A zero knowledge proof of identity?

give me a link to that plugin that currently makes premoderation

a couple of legit posts per day is an overestimation

I can at least add a notification message to it

oof

@heinrich5991 do you know the source of the plugin?

I'm sure there is a cryptographic solution to this somewhere. A zero knowledge proof of identity?

i think there should be much simpler solutions

I think the problem clearly needs blockchain

and machine learning

I got C in all AI courses

and thermonuclear synthesis

15:24

I think there is a reliable and simple solution already. We're not alone with that problem

it is not for me.

like a blacklist lists and systems like in email engines (edited)

(and i'm not suited for the future i guess)

"Post and registration approval"

15:24

name of the extension

thanks

this one? https://punbb.info/t-19.html

Pun Approval - Модерация тем, сообщений и регистраций

Можно ли сделать в расширении Post and registration approval - перемещение сообщений в другой форум, а так же изменение сообщений перед добавлением на форум? Pun Approval - Модерация тем, сообщений и регистраций — Recycling Extensions —

what a straight forward name for a plugin

I think so @Deleted User

hmmm

It says in russian "have many bugs, need to be reworked"

why is the site russian-only, is it inofficial?

and it's 2015 seems to be a proof of concept work which was then abandoned

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PunBB

PunBB

PunBB (PunBulletinBoard) is a lightweight PHP-based internet discussion board system released under the GNU General Public License. The project's primary goal is to be a faster, smaller and less graphic alternative to discussion boards such as phpBB, Invision Power Board or vB...