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Between 2020-09-23 00:00:00Z and 2020-09-24 00:00:00Z

Considering the pos of projectiles is calculated based on ticks passed and the initial pos, slowing them down in water might be tricky

Idea: allow tees to pour salt into water to make it push out more

lol

13:16

allow tees to pour cyanide in the water to kill tees that enter it

among us

next simulate air flow and wind!

HAIR physics!

YES

hell yes

Wind wind... cosmetic or gameplay affecting?

well without gameplay this would be boring?

14:14

maybe not worth the effort

thing is, how would that work?

gliding capes

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I don't know xD

14:15

new movement mechanic next to hook, capes :0

gliding cape sounds hella cool

14:16

but the wind would probably be decided with rng

14:16

and thus would implement a bit of randomness into CTF for example

wind might be either random or decided by the mapper

14:16

like water

still, doesn't seem all that useful

well, I'm far from confident about this, tho

the only maps large enough to make gliding fun and useful are for CTF and those are usually too symmetry focused (edited)

14:18

gliding in ctf5 under the map or above it :D (edited)

I would not expect new gameplay mechanics to be used on old maps. those would require new maps.

A hairy tee, I'll get right on that in blender

just giving examples

I wanted to try the new hair sim in blender 2.9 anyway

wet tee when it comes out of water (edited)

14:31

with dripping water :D

eww

14:33

hairy tee

14:34

kiwi worlds

1

results, when @Learath2 ?

I'm a rather shitty modeller, so maybe a week?

1

High hopes.

14:47

does anyone know where that restriction comes from on ddrace servers where you can only kickvote team mates?

@jxsl13 it's been there for a long time, but the idea was that if you are in a team, you shouldn't care about kicking people outside your team (since they don't influence you at all)

is this togglable?

14:49

that restriction?

14:49

I have seen people funvote other people on team 0 and then join another team to avoid being voted.

14:50

I have seen people insult other people in chat while being in a different team.

14:50

so no votes for them.

Deleted User joined the server. 2020-09-23 15:07:26Z

Is there a client or a possible way, to see all players in zoome dout map while bien in spectator?

*zoomed out

17:04

*while being

Zoom out

17:05

And then switch to spec

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the good old out of background quad

huh

17:17

theres a map related way to reproduce this?

try making the background quad giant

17:18

and this might not be an issue anymore, my guess

17:19

oh

17:19

my bad

17:19

thought that was zoomed out

17:19

well

17:19

then that most likely isnt

making swimming mechanics is much harder than I anticipated

oof

@jxsl13 its normal map

17:45

usually works fine with 0.6 and 0.7

what happened

17:46

is it a bug

17:46

well i mean it obviously is. how tho

its a cmd on f2

17:49

no bug

I have seen people insult other people in chat while being in a different team.

@jxsl13 well if it is chat related they should call mods when it is necessary, joining other teams probably won't affect their gameplay

17:50

there is a mute feature after all

17:50

its a cmd on f2

@noby oh.

still weird

which cmd

custom

oh

17:51

so you did it

17:52

how

ye

17:52

just test cmd

17:52

join srv with vanilla client il show u

I prefer kickvoting toxic players.

17:52

does not change the other problem, tho

dropped

hmm

17:56

f

dropped

idk why it doesnt work for u

i'm using refactored. do i try master or 0.7.5

whatd u change?

the entire textrender thing as usual

i guess default version

try water ;)

17:58

(actually, don't do it, it's incompatible)

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17:58

trippy

hahahah

17:58

wait so

17:58

whatever u did with text render

17:58

actually fixes this

maybe it is just a 32bit thing

17:58

i only have a 32bit build of vanilla

17:59

what did you do exactly tho

dm

estreya joined the server. 2020-09-23 18:05:41Z

anyone here able to host a server for me? <3

more info

I'd like a server hosted with latest binary from the water build, with a few maps and an admin pass, so that I could try to get some people to test & give feedback

18:46

unfortunately, I can't quite host it myself

why binary

18:46

also like where do you want the server, that's important too

well... I just used "binary" since I think that's what the .exe files are called, right?

18:48

also doesn't have to be 24/7

18:48

preferably in Europe, somewhere germany-poland ^^

usually ppl clone the source and build them on server so it is guaranteed to run.

fair enough ^^

and usually servers aren't windows so no exe i guess

ah... right

i have a uk server

18:50

haven't tried running any teeworlds

18:50

i can try tho

18:50

you might want to change the nethash before running it on server so vanilla don't see it

yeah that would be helpful

or just don't register with master i guess

wouldn't not registering with master disallow other people to join, even with the same build?

no

18:51

they can still join with ip

18:52

let me grab my server from the dead, haven't used it for a while

I see, I see

do i just grab your branch

18:55

or do you want to manage the server yourself

18:59

thonk

lemme update it first

19:01

yeah should be ok now @TsFreddie

did you push it

did not do any new commits since the last push like 30 mins ago

so what are you updating

19:02

i've built it already. do you have a config you'd like to use

sv_gametype mod
sv_register 0

should be enough

19:03

I assume the server will generate auto password, right?

well if you want a fixed one and no copy it each restart

also I'd like those two maps for testing

1.85 KB

19:03

2.31 KB

19:03

sure, I can pm you the password then

194.124.32.240 (edited)

19:07

whatever the default port is

19:08

i forgot lol

8303

19:09

works!

thonk

cool

say, have you checked the build out yet?

19:09

you've got the perfect opportunity now

i don't have it on my machine

I've been curious if prediction on other players work and if there are issues with >1 person

do you have a build for windows

19:10

doggo_lol

well, I work off a cmake build for windows10

19:10

from vs

i mean

19:11

can i have a build directly

19:11

I can send a download down your way gimme a sec

19:13

http://www.mediafire.com/file/pmgq77kqe0dc3l5/teeworldswater.zip/file

19:14

@TsFreddie this should work

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19:52

@TsFreddie jump issue fixed

next up, something the air bubble rendering

19:57

I fixed it? I guess?

19:58

    if (m_BreathTick < 5) //magic floating tee number that won't make it flick
    {
        return -1;
    }

(edited)

19:58

this works, I suppose

19:58

it's not perfect. but it isn't as bad

20:01

among other issues was the air accel on water not being affected by water's friction? @TsFreddie (edited)

you should make a new accel tuning for on top of water

make a tune for being able to walk on water

20:07

sorry, had to say that, continue

basically yea

20:08

but before that you should code the top layer of the water separately so you can make sure you can tell if the tee is floating instead of doing >

>     if (m_BreathTick < 5) //magic floating tee number that won't make it flick
>     {
>         return -1;
>     }
>

20:09

that's what i think at least

well, the float up tune would still push them out of that one, wouldn't it?

20:09

or do you mean a special one DIRECTLY on top of water?

maybe

that doesn't have any other property?

special friction and accel for that and be different from accel in the water i guess.

hmm

difference between swim and dive is what i've thought of

depends. how would that go if we went with a water simulation? (not-tile-based-water)

i dont think sim will happen anyway

20:11

we don't even have a dedicated physics engine yet

me neither but I like to fool myself it could

actually

20:12

forget what ive said

20:12

might have problem for floating water tiles

I could make a IsFloating() function that checks if you are standing on top of some water pixels and have some of your body parts in air

20:13

sounds like a challenge to code but could be done?

yea that

20:13

i like that

20:14

but still. floating water might be different. like about the side of water.

20:14

well probably shouldnt think too much about it right now

TestBox function could maybe work... idk

20:15

rn, perfecting physics should probably be focus

20:15

or perfecting the tuning/documentation for them

20:16

like, for example, introduce a tune for maximum vel without being affected by friction @TsFreddie

20:18

the friction is being done like every tick so it is pretty harsh even at 0.9, 0.95

it should be done every tick tho

20:20

it is physics after all

yeah

20:20

but even at pretty low numbers it is quite harsh

20:21

so a maximum vel without being affected by it might help?

thats why you need higher accel to counter it

well, it IS supposed to be a trap...

20:22

but for the sake of tuning I might as well add it as a tune value with 0 default?

emm.

20:26

how to you move with 0 accel

20:26

i'm not saying add it on top of air accel

20:26

replace it

wuhmm

what value do you think it would have?

higher than air accel lower than ground accel i think

@Zatline yo have u tested the water yet? (edited)

ya did test it yesterday togheter with @Ravie

ooh, fancy

21:00

opinions?

@Stiopa it would be great if the pressure increased the deeper you go

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also I feel the pressure at the surface feels a bit too strong

I could try to make a function that would calculate the depth of the user in water and use it to scale... but it would not be simple

21:03

considering it would be hard to calculate the pressure in a water cave where you don't have air above, only ground

21:03

alternatively, more tiles could be added to simulate the "Depth"

21:03

but changes would probably be abrupt and noticable

21:04

btw. I added an alternative Diving gear swimming mechanic today, one that is steered with your cursor and space, instead of left-right and space

21:05

(on by default, but can be disabled by tune liq_div_gear_curs_swim)

21:07

and now that it is hosted by @TsFreddie at 194.124.32.240:8303 it is much easier to test

hmm

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is teeworlds.com down

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