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Between 2020-09-18 00:00:00Z and 2020-09-19 00:00:00Z

or a nice Zombie survival mode just like CoD had it in their official pool too

I think that's what mods are for, but I wouldn't mind some new official gamemodes if they are executed well and just as minimalistic as base teeworlds

I really liked the old zomb mode from 0.5 it was perfect 4 types of zombies and done

00:03

the newer one is painfull to play

00:04

so many zombie types and they feel so op at times

more like one type of zombies

00:04

just zombies ^^

nah there should be slight differences imo

I don't like anything class-like in tw

but no zomb should be super op and hook u the moment he sees u or whatever

00:06

old zomb had normal zombies some bigger zombies and than sometimes a tank zombie would spawn that toke more damage than all the other zombs

if teeworlds adds more gametypes, they has to be new and designed with reason. like lms and lts which are made to introduce the dead states for tees.

good morning @TsFreddie

which can be used for mods like zcatch although idk if any mod is really using it

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thinkeyes

oh he woke up welocme backj

just lied down

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besides, teeworlds doesnt default you to standard gametype anymore, there are not any good reason to reimplement existing mods. we probably shouldnt just merge some random mods into the codebase.

00:12

ok typing on phone is much harder

00:14

bots decor for ai controlled tees are added tho, so it would be good to add custom decors for things like zombies

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but thats covered under the downloadable contents i suppose

what I liked about the old zombie mode was that it was more strategic managing ur weapon usage making good use of every shot managing to resupply during waves and sometimes if waves overcut each other things get out of hand quick but zombies didn't hook trap you they were simple like zombies in the walking dead they only inflict damage when u got to close / get overrun by a horde .. once the zombies infiltrated the weapon resuply spot it got tricky

00:16

but the new zombie mode is awefull cuz u get hook traped and die (edited)

I propose that the tee suit and swimming style be identical to a goldfish , that would be fun

I think that would suit an astronaut suit more tbh ^^

Nodes + Among us, a mixed mod in teeworlds, what do you think?

Amoung Us lmao

Make tw a social deception game ;D

04:05

Tees should float imo

04:11

I envision a tee swimming being just the tee wiggling their feet back and forth

04:17

Current teeworlds gets a bit of newbs that do not remain, really

04:17

Game needs a tutorial...

04:20

Someone make an official tileset for tutorial

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The low amount of players does not help either as people may see the game as dead

04:26

And the average player skill is going up causing the noobs (especially on CTF) to feel overwhelmed

Current prorities should be imo:

Functioning Tutorial
Proper Announcements + maybe teeworlds client being able to fetch latest official maps
A new mechanic - liquids, mythical slopes or at least a new weapon/powerup. You name it, at least one novelty

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04:37

new tilesets and thus maps

04:38

Then we could try to contact content creators

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For 0.8 ofc

04:43

0.7.6 needs work too

04:43

Autumn is almost here!

sounds like a good plan

Now it only needs execution

04:48

Code wizards, mappers, artists, playtesters

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Exactly.

04:50

Lol

Also I believe it would be worthwhile to conduct a study on new players' opinions

04:59

Prompt 20 people to play it and ask after a week how it went

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Did they continue playing after 1 day? (edited)

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Did they see it as a dead game?

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Couldn't they grasp the pro players' skill and rq?

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Did they enjoy the game? (edited)

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Etc

05:01

Prompt a few fresh players and conduct a study with a questionnaire

It is imperative all kinds of data are gauged

@Zatline

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I really liked the old zomb mode from 0.5 it was perfect 4 types of zombies and done the newer one is painfull to play

you can report any balance issues on my server, we're constantly seeking a way to balance the game for newcomers vs oldies and humans vs zombies to make the game interesing, challenging but not too frustrating to everyone

I like that MTGA initiative.

09:49

But we don't have a plan how to make it great.

09:52

I see the main problem RN that too few people are involved into interesting activities for TW. Teeworlds Europe make tournaments on vanilla CTF/DM, but it seems that's all.

When I was working in a game company there were special people who made events. And they were more in numbers than devs.

i never had a job

10:08

beagr

And it worked, people come to get new experience and get entertained. It's hard to entertain people with code.

10:08

You're lucky

or we are luck that you don't have it but have time for this project

because i've given up hope

10:09

at least this is something to do rather than sit around waiting for death

it's hard to get your first programming job, that's true

10:10

after that you will have experience in both your resume and in passing interviews

10:10

it will be like 10-100x easier

tbh i kinda just don't want to go back to china and work 12hour shifts

Then it's in your best interest to find a job while close to the EU

saddog

but i have no idea how does a foreigner do that

@Deleted User he meant the ZOMB gamemode

10:12

Not yours :p

Anyway, he said a keyword. So he won an invite in PM to my server

This is not how invites should be sent :D

you download Xing, LinkedIn, indeed, Stepstone from your app store and look for a job there that helps with relocation, does have an english speaking working environment. For example, I have seen job offers with such environments in Düsseldorf, Germany. @TsFreddie

If you are still registered at a uni, they sometimes offer career services. Companies also come along to do recruitment sometimes

Don't tell me about relocation please

I should be in Europe for 6 months already if not that coronavirus thing.

10:23

@Stiopa sure, propose a better way.

10:24

I invite anybody who is talking about infection or infClass mod. Tbh that is just about 20 people total to this moment.

10:24

And 10 were grateful for invites

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10 just ignored w/o complaining. So it seems to be fine

thonk

Well, if it works it works

10:45

Buy ads on Google ;D

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imagine a 3d teeworlds

there was one

13:25

besides, minus the hook it is just quake

isometric would be cool to try, though a pain to navigate. Because 2.5d games don't draw ceiling

13:54

so a hook would be useless there

13:55

also a TW in VR would make even stronges person to vomit after 1 minute of playing

13:55

I've tried games with huge jumps. It was both exciting and horrible experience

13:56

I think I might try anti-nausea pills and try them other day

13:56

human wetware have prediction bugs too

Harald joined the server. 2020-09-18 14:21:47Z

hey guys i want to play Teeworlds and for some reason DDnet Client isnt working i seached for others a bit but they seem... odd. now i ask you guys for help if you know a good TW client which is also SAFE

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thanks in advance

you may be better off asking on the DDNet discord if you haven't already

there is a ddnet discord?

15:42

i didnt know lel

I believe so yeah, look on their forums

15:42

this server is more general and thus less focused on the 0.6 DDNet client that works on older tw version (edited)

oh i see

I play 0.7 and 0.7 only

thanks ill ask there... ill be back if they cant help

15:43

thanks lots!

0.7 best

@SplInTaCs ddnet.tw/discord

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don't think ddnet had client-side safety problems(?)

no they dont

16:01

i checked my avira isnt the problem

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its not detecting it as bad

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i have no clue why its not working

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the pc is new Af

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or way too good too be 'struggling' with this

strugglign with what?

well i mean the facvt that its not starting

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i click the game

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start

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i get into the loading screen

probably completely unrelated with your computer's performance

and then as its finished it closes completly

so it crashes

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that's a ddnet-specific problem better ask them over there

i guess

16:03

yeah ill check it

Ozz joined the server. 2020-09-18 16:03:40Z

thanks thou

Hey guys, first time playing this game. Playing kobra and Stuck at this place

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16:05

Any tips?

16:05

do i need to change the controllers somehow to be able to shoot faster or something?

16:05

I always touch the gray area when try to get over

@Ozz you might have better luck over in the ddnet discord

Can i get a invite? xD

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Thanks for the info

literally 5min ago

You'll have a better time if you hook a little backwards

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ono

Yeah a bug I'm having trouble tracking down...

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Votes that don't end

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Vote stuff is just so hard to debug alone

yeah it's very annoying

votes wich don't end gives more meaning to the "no" option

"f4 - stop it, get some help"

Q: If we send 10 serverinfo requests, there is no way to know which of the 10 responses refer to which request, right?

does it depend to the protocol, or not?

huuh

16:27

we have the IP of the packets right?

of course

16:28

so, we can learn which request refers to which response

I meant for Learath

every packet has sender's ip

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we can only compare ips of requests ig... not sure about it

dst ip + src ip + dst port + src port is not enough to make a connection between request and response though

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since udp enforces no order I don't think there is any way

bano joined the server. 2020-09-18 16:34:00Z

@Learath2 you can use the token

No tokens in 06

in the data part, there is, I think @Learath2

what problem are you solving? are those packet are for the same server?

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why do you care of order then? (edited)

19:10

if not, then take src IP address from IP packet and that's it

I think you should add an automatic vote stop option on the client side, the server shouldn't be able to bug the client, tho the opposite is ofc more important

yea, the client should clearly be able to tell when the timer went negative. (edited)

19:16

well unless some mods need negative timer but i doubt it. (edited)

@TsFreddie I wanted my wireshark dissector to identify requests and responses

i wasn't the one asking

Okay I might have had a little too much to drink

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@Deleted User ^^

UDP is a stateless protocol, you know it. it doesn't have sequence id, nothing. If your upper level protocol don't have identificators to track request and response then nothing you can do there.

reaching Ballmer's peak?

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@Deleted User even when UDP doesn't have a sequence id, you can still transmit one in the dataload, which teeworlds actually does# (edited)

Yes, that's what I've meant by saying

If your upper level protocol

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dataload is an app level proto isn't it?

i was talking about the udp dataload/content, which can be anything

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but yeah it's app level proto

Deleted User joined the server. 2020-09-18 20:33:50Z

this jungle night theme looks really awesome, props to the mapper

Any advices on how to promote my mod? ✅ added more features than infCroya and infClass had ✅ make my own discord server and invite ~50 players there ✅ involve them into game designing ✅ make a discord to game bot ✅ ported game to ddnet to make it available to both 0.6 and 0.7 clients ✅ invested like 3-4 months of my free time, leaned C++ in the process ❓ anything else I've missed? Result: ~150 unique visits per a week, 18 top online count once a week, server still mostly empty. (edited)

post in the mod section on teeworlds.com

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on the post make a nice intro, nice graphics, a game introduction with gameplay, maybe a youtube link but at least some screenshots

21:35

what was your mod again?

infNext: tiny.cc/infnext

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an infClass variant

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with water, doors, battle royale circles and many other novelties

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Thanks I will try to do that tomorrow. Let's see if that will help.

@Deleted User I don't know what the secret sauce is, there

medic got downgraded to infinity :C

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