Teeworlds - bridge

before you think about implementing water, what about slopes?

slopes were already implemented at some point

16:16

it turned out that they don't integrate well in vanilla gameplay because they require tees to go on the ground where they are vulnerable (iirc)

16:16

so the idea was rejected

hmm, that reasoning is discussable

it is

the reason I see for slopes is less movement penalty

what we'd need imo would be a project where several physics modifications are implemented to let people alpha test the stuff, gather feedback, see what is judged fun etc.

i would really want slopes on the ctf5 spots, where you have a 1 block height difference

16:18

I agree with that alpha project

without going through this intermediary state I'm pretty sure no physics addition will be accepted in teeworlds

in 0.6 I remember we had trunk versions, maybe 0.7.5 trunk or something

trunk just means master

svn speak

16:37

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Subversion ctrl-f trunk

Apache Subversion

Apache Subversion (often abbreviated SVN, after its command name svn) is a software versioning and revision control system distributed as open source under the Apache License. Software developers use Subversion to maintain current and historical versions of files such as sourc...

eww

They still use SVN for exams at my uni...

I hope you are not studying computer science

are there any reasons except historical to prefer svn over git?

svn can handle bigger files better IIRC

that's why we use git lfs at work

so there's one reason I guess, svn supports binary files natively

I am studying computer engineering....

@Learath2 (I only said this because of SVN, not because of you or something

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The class is a joke anyway, "Object Oriented Programming" in Java

Java was my first language, too, it isn't a bad starter language

It gives you the awful habit of "OOP everything"

yes, until you finish your algorithm and datastructures class

One thing I've really been enjoying is the functional programming capabilities of Java. I like how collections and streams work there

I enjoy python very much currently, it's just so much less code to write and maintain

Everytime I give python a chance I want to break my computer in half, so I'm steering clear of it for a while

xD

I have no idea how a language that's supposed to be "plug n play"/"granny friendly" has such a god awful import system

from x.y import z

that's the pleasant part

17:04

Try a nested project

you mean the package managing part? that's annoying

Package managing is also god awful yes

17:05

I have never seen a less capable package manager

I outsourced package managing to peotry

17:05

*poetry

17:06

https://python-poetry.org/

In ddnet's bridge code I generate both the 0.7 and 0.6 protocol. It took a month of research into the stupid import system and I never figured it out

and for substructures in directories I only needed __init__.py

deen managed to get it working with -m but I just ditched the project

17:08

We would have had bridge servers 3 months earlier if we were using any language that's not python to implement the code generation

I wonder why you generate the netcode on the way, anyway

it's cute

17:09

and if anything changes in vanilla, I just need to copy a directory over

17:11

Oh and with the source files, I can generate the translation map easily. If I copy the already generated network.h I need to parse C++ with libclang, which is less than fun

I would have worked more with inheritance, so if you update the netcode you can just create another new child of a netcode parent part and allowing more netcode versions

The netcode is not ready for any extensions (edited)

17:12

It'd have been a major rework that way

yes, which is why we have two active teeworlds versions and bridged servers

Exactly, it'd be great if we could all work together on getting some QoL in for modding

17:13

SnapReplaceItem would help a lot. The extended network protocol would be great. Map extensions would be great. Datafile extensions would also be great

17:14

The extended serverinfo protocol, or just replacing the serverinfo protocol with http

17:14

Or finally a clean IGameController that's just an ABC along with a CGameContext that's completely gamemode unaware

neat, Teeworlds amplified dos attacks

0.7 is safe from amplification afaik

17:15

0.6 does allow some amplified reflection but we ratelimit so it doesn't get out of hand