Teeworlds - general

Spunney joined the server. 2020-06-15 02:12:20Z

hillo!

rj

Abby♥EH♥ joined the server. 2020-06-15 03:06:54Z

Hi

rj

Anybody want to play fng?

@fokkonaut it indeed seems smooth

11:59

did people make side-by-side comparisons?

11:59

ye (edited)

you mean regarding the emotes in #bridge ?

12:00

yea i have no idea why that is

12:01

but its cool

uh noby says

12:01

separate sendpackmsg for emotes?

12:01

thats not it

12:02

that is to translate it for vanilla 0.6 clients, they have 16 players only

hmm

12:04

to paraphrase, 'if it's not related to the sendpackmsg then I have no idea' (edited)

12:05

the great mystery

lol

12:15

i dont think i touched any of the emote related code

maybe you had optimized packages?

12:16

package sending

actually alot of the optimizations i made to the netcode are now temporarily disabled during the switch to supporting 0.7

12:17

so if the emotes behave the same now as they did a couple weeks ago, then its probably not that

but anyway it mustnt touch the emotes speed

aisyx joined the server. 2020-06-15 12:17:58Z

rj

i have sv_emoticon_delay 0

ddnet7 too, isnt it?

12:18

ddnet7 servers

does this emote behavior happen on any other servers?

@fokkonaut

@noby not that i have noticed

have u tried on normal fng (0.6 and 0.7), and ddnet (0.6 and 0.7 and preferably one based on 10.8.6 version like mine is)?

yea its only u

12:28

i believe

lol thats weird

12:28

i looked at the two places i remembered seeing emote code in gamecontext.cpp and i dont see anything that looks abnormal

12:28

is there anywhere else i should check

if you had optimized netcode, can you pr this to master?

It doesnt matter whether netcode is "optimited" or not

12:31

The packet arrives at the clients at some point

12:32

and there is nothing like a smooth variable or whatever

12:32

the client gets the packet the same way as on other servers

@noby nice to see you also doing a bridge server

:D

12:33

im using alot of the code from unique server

i thought we would get an answer when learath typed :D

@gerdoe its ugly and im not using alot of the optimizations anymore due to the 0.7 thing

12:33

i also suggested the idea behind the best one and ddnet added it

12:34

the inforequest caching thing

@gerdoe the netcode optimizations we have are usually not useful unless you are hosting very large servers with a lot of ddos :D

yes thats why i did it

12:34

anti ddos

0.7 already caches the info ○/

ah

Well a bit

12:34

It only generates once per tick

thats still way better than once per packet

Instead of one per tick per person :D

or per packet

12:35

which is how i thought 0.6 does by default

12:35

7:33 AM] fokkonaut: i thought we would get an answer when learath typed :D lol maybe, @Learath2 do u know what could cause the behavior fokkonoaut is talking about?

12:35

why emotes would seem 'smoother' on my server

Hm, do they show up smoother or disappear smoother?

idont know tbh ive never noticed it before

12:37

my first guess was that its something client side

they appear smoother

12:38

the pop up animation

12:39

its not like beep emote is there

12:39

more like its coming slowly and wavy

o yeah that was totally on purpose 8)

12:39

..is what id like to be able to say

xd

Well i can take a look at the code in a couple mins

which part of the code

I'd take a look at the client see how the emotes opacity is set

oo

12:40

and @fokkonaut this happens in all clients uve tried?

yes

lol weird

Also can take a look at the contents of the emote object on nobys server vs others

void CGameContext::SendEmoticon(int ClientID, int Emoticon)
{
    CNetMsg_Sv_Emoticon Msg;
    Msg.m_ClientID = ClientID;
    Msg.m_Emoticon = Emoticon;
    Server()->SendPackMsg(&Msg, MSGFLAG_VITAL, -1);
}

xd

or a different part

yep, vital msg

oh are emotes usually not marked as vital?

no, I am just trying to act intelligent which I am not

lol

"ah yes, the floor here is made out of floor"

u can see the -1 which tells the server to send them smoother and thats how it works

xD

ah, yes

12:46

that definitely is it!

lol

-1 clearly stands for permanent

12:47

you send a permanent package, yes. that must be it. yes.

lol, well idk, i just looked at the same function in ddnet source and its the same

Eh nothing in there that'd influence this

12:51

So the emote rendering would be where i look

is it possibly related to the fact that my server has a "+" in the gametype

12:53

it affects other clientside emoticon things like making it draw a separate wheel for eyeemotes so maybe?

@noby ur server just nuked me

what client

13:02

lol

0.7.5

13:02

well actually master

huh what did it do

13:03

funny bcs u tagged me 5sec after some ath guy got autobanned so wondered

13:03

i tested and it should work with 0.7.5

I don't even see the server anymore

oh wait

13:04

vpn?

hah

there is . bypass for antivpn

13:05

dm

hm doesn't look smoother than vanilla to me

ye i never noticed either :X

13:07

@fokkonaut can u make a recording of hwo it looks for u?

13:08

also maybe try with 0.6 client ad see(?)

I guess @fokkonaut is just having a complex partial seizure

13:08

a very long one

lmao

13:09

only affects emotes on some servers

13:09

given what i know i wouldve assumed its something wit his client

13:09

since he plays with it there

what do you mean?

like

13:09

use screenrecorder

13:09

and show how the emots look for u

13:12

doesnt it look like this

Fred joined the server. 2020-06-15 13:15:33Z

@heinrich5991 i cant talk in #bridge but he gets good ping to my server and says it doesnt happen on any other servers [where he would presumably have the same ping]

you can now talk in #bridge

thanks

can i put memes here about teeworlds?

14:49

alt+f4 joke

Sebaesponja joined the server. 2020-06-15 16:05:35Z

Who can help me with a error ban in Kog servers ?

@noby when people gets autobanned by antivpn FeelsChromosomeMan

loll

Lol

Běņj joined the server. 2020-06-15 16:58:03Z

rj

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BABA joined the server. 2020-06-15 17:23:24Z

hey people! i have seen that a race server i was playing on used the version "0.7.4, Race 4.0-dev" in the teeworlds forum i can only find a race version 3.3 and its for patch 0.6.1. can anyone tell me where i can find this specific version to download? i want to host my own race server!

rj

what is rj?

I think @timakro might have one, @reneas

oh, rj is a generic response we give when we see someone join the server

@heinrich5991 i already had contact with him, but he said he only has the unique-clan server thingy which is not at all documented and kinda unpractical to use for anyone who didnt program it xD (something like this)

21:22

@Stiopa what does it stand for?

rage join, opposite of rq

lul

21:24

@heinrich5991 any other idea?

Juli qwq joined the server. 2020-06-15 21:26:55Z

new server?

@reneas no, not any other idea

@Juli qwq yes i want to set up a new race server

@heinrich5991 @reneas this is @redix's 0.7 race mod

22:03

I don't think there are released binaries anywhere unfortunately, and the artifacts have expired since @redix's last commt is old

22:03

the sources are at https://github.com/axblk/teeworlds/tree/race

axblk/teeworlds

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22:03

if you can build it from source or get someone to

Just a few notes: this is a basic version of solo race. It hardly supports any of the ddrace/ddnet features and is incompatible with their teleport and speedup format The branch is based on 0.7.5 and is running kinda stable. I didn't do a real release as I never finished the extended maplayer format (+ editor support). Today ddnet7 (or the various other ddrace versions flying around) offer way more features.

22:15

I mainly did this to be able to use teerace maps in 0.7. Sadly teerace is kinda dead =\

@reneas i meant something else but ok

in what ways was Teerace diff from the other race? (edited)

Rather competitive solo race. Mostly short maps... and the top times often only differed by a few milliseconds

22:21

Maybe similar to todays unique race

with mostly grenades?

yes. some fastcap maps even without any weapons. Just moving through a ctf map as fast as possible

I prefer make some race maps for DDnet and not making new server with 'new races'

For short maps the default ddnet version does not have precise enough timing

There are many short maps and i think we dont need more

22:27

Or write to deen that we need more precise timing on race mode

22:30

If you know how you can help with moving DDnet to 0.7

well ddnet7 is a thing

Some people prefer longer maps, others like shorter ones... :) Actually today most people play on ddrace / cooperative maps anyway When someone wants to host many short maps he can just modify ddnet to support milliseconds (like unique race did)

DDnet 0.7 isnt official

nothing is

Well I mostly abandoned the repo above due to lack of time... and so far progress on ddnet7 was kinda slow

you are right

so i actually wanted to play teerace (@Dune im the guy who wrote to you on teeworlds forum as well) @redix i dont even want to play ddrace just some old fashioned grenade launcher races like guy_25, run_moon or forrest, maybe even h_race. the main problem im having is that guy_25 for example has teleports (which don't work if i just download the map and host a server with it). i'm guessing it has something to do with the config-file but as i couldn't find any list of cfg commands i have no idea how to do it. "sv_teleport 1" doesnt work. another issue im having is that when i download a map and host it on a server, some tiles are missing. either the death tiles are invisible or sometimes they are visible but dont actually kill you. i also tried the map_update program, but it doesnt seem to work for this issue. any help is greatly appreciated

@reneas this is because of the map, not because of the server config. you should use the map_update.exe script that @redix has engineered

i did!

where did you download guy_25? i guess this map was built with ddnet in 0.6. Even in 0.6 teerace was not 100% compatible with ddnet and right now the tool cannot handle the ddnet format

guy_25 dates back to even 0.5 I think

22:47

I remember playing it far back

yeah definitely

Maybe i'll find some time to extend the map_update tool

but maps have versions

22:47

oh, that'd be lovely

Actually i'm not sure about the output format. The stuff I tried in my race repo is far from optimal, but I don't want to use the stuff from 0.6 again. It's kinda messy

what do you mean by output format?

the format for extended layers (teleport, speedup, ..)

ah

22:49

the compatibility break is not nice, not sure it is worth it

i downloaded once from heinrich5991 website (the endlessly long list of about 30k maps) and once, when i played it on another server. an update for the update tool would be great as well! maybe i just have to host the server on the 0.5.x client, altough i really like the new 0.7.x client. looks really neat and all

changing map versions every year creates a lot of confusion

22:51

@reneas there is already an update tool, did you really use it? heinrich5991's website has 0.6 maps

it should at least base on something uuid based (ddnet already supports this but it's not used for the layers)

ye i used it with ./map_update oldmap.map newmap.map

heinrich's website is a blessing

22:52

I was able to find the bctf map used in that gamemode back from early-mid 0.6s (edited)

hehe

22:52

thank @heinrich5991 !

hell ye, only my pc takes ages to load the website xD

(he will probably see the message) thank you heinrich