Teeworlds - development

what if i have this 0.0

your cmake is too old

but i type apt-get install cmake

12:20

or apt-get update

12:20

or apt update

12:20

sudo isn't work for me

12:20

it's debian 8 (edited)

then your distribution package is too old

you mean i need to update system?

there are many ways to go about this, you need a newer version of your build system

how to?

12:34

can i compile with bam?

which distribution is it, @justabutterflier ?

debian 8...?

12:35

are you talking about this...

yes

ok

12:36

is debian 8 supports 3.10 cmake?

12:36

or higher

currently looking

12:36

(you can always install cmake from the website (https://cmake.org/download/), but maybe there's an official package from debian as well)

Steve Jordan

Download

12:39

no, debian 8 does not have a native package for cmake >= 3.10

oh

12:39

can i compile with bam?

probably, or download cmake from the website above

12:39

note that you should upgrade your OS, security support ended two years ago

oh

12:40

then ok :(

12:40

what the OS is on the ddnet server, do you know this?

debian 10

thank you very much, i'll update

there are precompiled zCatch binaries, if you do not explicitly want to modify the source code.

ohhh

12:49

already deleted all stuff from server

12:49

replaced*

12:49

but hmm (edited)

12:49

thanks

do they statically link libc, @jxsl13? if not, they likely don't work on debian 8 if you didn't compile on a similarly old distribution

hm, dunno, guess not, same as default TW?

12:50

cmake

if you compile on github CI, then no, I don't think it's old enough to work on debian 8

then i need to update?

12:51

is debian 9 enough?

I'd try

you should update anyway

running it.

https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/cmake stretch (debian 9) backports has cmake 3.16

well, there is a paragraph about compiling it with a newer version of gcc that is located in a different path

nice

alternatively, if you don't want to upgrade, download the new cmake version from cmake.org

already updating

cmake can also be installed via some user repository or compiled from tue website, I initially started develooment on debian 8, so it is possible

12:53

but a pain

yep (edited)

oh rly (edited)

https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/

thanks

add deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main to your /etc/apt/sources.list

13:30

apt-get update

13:31

apt-get -t buster-backports install cmake

nightly binary ;0

13:31

hehe

what does it means? (edited)

what jxsl13 wrote?

13:32

he's just making fun of debian's old packages (edited)

xd

13:32

painlover

13:32

he is coding at white background

I'd be interested in whether the precompiled version of zCatch works there

13:33

the precompiled nightly version if zCatch

ah, misunderstood ^^

heinrich thank you very much for your help

13:33

and sorry for my grammar

no worries. does it work now?

https://github.com/jxsl13/zcatch/actions/runs/103723018 this I meant.

jxsl13/zcatch

A retro multiplayer shooter. Contribute to jxsl13/zcatch development by creating an account on GitHub.

not accessible without a github account

i in a process

lol, really?

yes

13:34

try in private moe

Indid not know :0

did you do apt-get update?

yes

output of apt-get update please

13:35

sure

13:35

clear (edited)

woops

13:36

change deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main to deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main

13:36

buster → stretch

ok

13:36

doing

can't upload zip files from phone..

man

13:37

are you kidding, do you really code by phone?

I hope not

lol, no

ok thanks xD

my file is too "mighty"

13:38

discord jokes

okay, this is going into territory I don't know

13:39

try adding libarchive13 to the command line

13:39

apt-get -t stretch-backports install cmake libarchive13

ok

13:39

the same

change order :D?

13:40

maybe not same

apt-get -t stretch-backports install libarchive13 (edited)

13:40

and then the cmake one, maybe

eh

13:41

what is this mess

but the same result, i have 3.7.2

add deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-backports-sloppy main to /etc/apt/sources.list

i'll send an output

13:41

ok

zCatch is by design a pain in the ass to compile

aha

nono

xD

problem is that i can't uprgrade to debian 10 (edited)

ubuntu?

13:42

ubuntu is less annoying

and then apt-get -t stretch-backports-sloppy install libarchive13

13:42

no

13:42

debian 9

yes @justabutterflier

13:43

apt-get update

pl

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ok

13:43

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ydetpi7uvjav43f/teeworlds-0.7.5-linux_x86_64.tar-2.xz/file

teeworlds-0.7.5-linux_x86_64.tar-2

What's 3.10 for btw?

cmake

c++17

13:44

try the binary, maybe it works.

now apt-get -t stretch-backports install cmake @justabutterflier

13:44

we might be done after this

cmake, next step would be gcc

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maybe

i can choose this:

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in the host settings

just try the heinrich approach for now

ok ok

13:45

it's in the process

13:45

MAAAAAAn

hm, if I remember correctly, I actually compiled gcc

WHaAaAt

on debian 8

what do you mean?

13:46

@heinrich5991 you are wizard

I also had to compile gcc from source because it did not work on debian 8

yay

13:47

@justabutterflier you might be able to upgrade your debian 9 to debian 10 btw

13:47

in-place

13:47

without assistance from the host

Ancient debian with it's ancient cmake

13:47

It should be illegal to ship software this old

hehe yes

13:47

@heinrich5991 ok, i'll try

debian is like ultra stable

why?

13:47

why illegal i mean

because the software is old

exaggeration there

but stable

13:48

debian is fine, if you don't need special tools and stuff.

13:48

or some up to date software

ehm

gcc from source?

i think this problem is because of sources or what? (edited)

no

13:49

it means you're missing libraries

recursive?

do -DCLIENT=OFF

13:49

in the cmake command line

??

The datasrc warnings are because whoever made the mod probably didn't bother updating CMakeLists

read the readme

ok

cmake -DCLIENT=OFF .. instead of whatever you were using

or missing git submodule update --init --recursive

I didn't bother caring for client

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that's about it.

13:50

rest is in the readme

you could make -DCLIENT=OFF standard in you CMakeLists.txt

one day

13:51

for now let's open an issue

is it normal?

cd ..

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and again

ok

hm should work from anywhere

if nothing happens, then it should be fine already

ok

13:52

cmake

you could make -DCLIENT=OFF standard in you CMakeLists.txt

@heinrich5991 how to do this

13:52

i opened the CMakeLists.txt

that's for me, not for you

ah

13:52

ok

13:52

sorry

cmake -DCLIENT=OFF .. for you

cd build && cmake -DCLIENT=OFF ..

tryed

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ok

13:53

forgot

13:53

send u output and error.logs?

we only see warnings

13:54

can you scroll up a little?

You are missing python

oh true

13:54

hm

could not find sdl2

13:54

and python

cd build && rm -r *

do you have python btw?

installing

13:55

right now

cd build && cmake -DCLIENT=OFF ..

installed

I didn't even think it was possible to not have python on debian

just installed

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the debian

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oh guys you are wizards really

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gods (edited)

probably only possible in the server version

now compile

now you just need to do make -j<howevermanycoresyouhave>

yep

make zcatch_srv

ehm

13:56

what i need

13:56

-j or make

without the j make is quite slow

hm ok

after spending half an hour on compiling (maybe even way more) (edited)

make should suffice

13:57

to get it working

13:57

afterwards you can use make -j$(nproc) to get a faster build

me gusta

huh didn't even know nproc was a thing

oh i'm not sure it's normal

linux only

13:57

normal warnings, not mine

that's fine

seems good

lol ok

13:58

sorry for this

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xD

i'm russian and just can't clearly read and understand all the text which i see

np, enjoy

thanks

now I remember the nickname

13:58

from the ddrace tutorial video

oh xd

13:59

did you enjoyed by it?

was cool

thanks (edited)

I found the "cinematic" cool, like was there someone in spectators filming that?

no, it's a demo

14:00

i asked Dune for the client which have this

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and asked more people

looked interesting

but nobody said me

14:00

i use ddnet

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ahaha

14:01

yep

I think on ddrace that client is fine

ok

thanks for not mentioning cheat clients

hm, I should add the smooth camera to ddnet sometime

sorry

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yep

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thanks

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that would be very good and simply

it has like some a little bit cheaty dyn cam features, that's about all there is

@heinrich5991 well it's not really a cheat client per se, I don't think it comes with any cheats

the camera kinda fixates on enemies if in dyn cam sight I guess

anyway i just recorded the demo and then recorded it to video and sounded

if I remember correctly

it has a pretty cute debug stack trace and lua

oh

14:02

all around it was interesting from a developer perspective

compiler too old

14:02

let's upgrade to debian 10?

ok

step 2

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compile gcc

14:03

xD

how

14:03

to

I bet it's less pain than compiling gcc

i want to just ./bam server_release

14:03

that was pretty simple

the problem is that @jxsl13 uses new compiler features

14:03

bam wouldn't help you right now

ok

the readme states, which gcc version you wuld need

ooooh @jxsl13 don't you know it's illegal to use anything after C++98 in teeworlds code?

gcc-8.10

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is what I got it working with on debian 8

14:04

I use c++17

14:04

@justabutterflier start with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade

ok

I think the syntax benefit and easier to read code with the "structured binding" were rather neat

14:05

I think it's calle dthat

Soon we will port teeworlds to Cfront

rust?

heh, rust 1.34 is in debian oldoldstable

14:06

because it's required to compile firefox

what's Cfront?

no Cfront is the original C++ compiler, doesn't conform to any standard, it only does C with classes and compiles code to C

@justabutterflier done?

well

14:06

sounds

14:06

great

14:07

rust or golang server implementation would be interesting

14:07

does rust have kinda lightweight threads or something like that?

PoC https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/tree/master/server

heinrich5991/libtw2

Some Teeworlds stuff in Rust. Contribute to heinrich5991/libtw2 development by creating an account on GitHub.

14:08

yes, does have, with the async stuff

755 lines?

14:08

how much of that works?

you can join the server and run around

14:09

that's all you can do

hm

Why did you put all of it one file though? That's so unlike you

no weapons, no nothing

14:09

the file doesn't do a lot

ten times faster compiling!

it binds together the libraries I wrote, mostly

x)

https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/blob/389f86815fec000683720760d6aeac10d495b6f5/server/src/main.rs#L430-L432 hardcoded dm1.map

heinrich5991/libtw2

Some Teeworlds stuff in Rust. Contribute to heinrich5991/libtw2 development by creating an account on GitHub.

14:11

hardcoded password

14:11

https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/blob/389f86815fec000683720760d6aeac10d495b6f5/server/src/main.rs#L428

heinrich5991/libtw2

Some Teeworlds stuff in Rust. Contribute to heinrich5991/libtw2 development by creating an account on GitHub.

14:11

@justabutterflier did the commands finish?

sorry

14:15

i sleep

14:15

doing

14:16

sorry, need to reboot

14:17

in the meantime, can you replace stretch with buster in /etc/apt/sources.list?

14:17

and remove the lines with backports

you need?

14:18

or me

14:18

to reboot

I need

ah ok

14:18

np

ah, I'll do a system update before rebooting

14:20

okay

14:20

did you replace stretch by buster? and removed the lines with backports?@justabutterflier

no, remove the lines that had backports completely

фр щл

14:23

ah ok

14:23

first line was before editing btw (edited)

it has stretch

14:23

it should have buster

yes

ok

14:23

then what?

14:24

apt-get upgrade?

apt-get update

14:24

then apt-get upgrade

14:24

i stupid then apd-get

this is the second output

14:25

first was installing something

14:25

without verification

I still see stretch in there

14:26

have you re-run apt-get update after you updated the /etc/apt/sources.list?

oh it seems that i didn't ctrl+s

14:26

sorry

14:28

n?

14:28

y?

14:29

@heinrich5991

d

y

барсик

14:30

d y

14:30

ok then d

14:31

q to get out of the diff view

14:31

and then y

done

14:33

now cmake ..?

everything done already?

cmake -DCLIENT=OFF ..

14:33

do apt-get dist-upgrade please

oh

14:33

doing

@justabutterflier and if all that is done, try compiling again

щл

14:44

ok

14:45

hosting manager after all installs:

apt --fix-broken install I guess? ^^

xd :(

xdn't

compile gcc from source?

rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.28-10_amd64.deb and try again?

14:48

@jxsl13 currently system seems to be in a broken state ^^

well.

14:49

I can't quote images (edited)

14:50

it says kernel need upgrades

14:50

or something like this

14:50

maybe switch the os

14:50

centos better imo

ah

14:50

@justabutterflier reboot and keep your fingers crossed

wdym

14:51

?

reboot

fingers crossed

14:51

what is it

it means "hope for the best"

ahahah

14:51

i understood

14:51

like "X" by fingers

14:51

yep?

yes

da

english only

https://images.app.goo.gl/qAxt5PGFPHyPFaTQA

huh ok

yes

14:52

ahaha

14:54

what do i need right now

14:54

apt_get updrade? (edited)

have you rebooted?

I find it rather interesting that after so much annoyance you still want to build that.

yes

apt-get upgrade

aahaha thanks

apt-get dist-upgrade

14:54

apt --fix-broken install?

yes

ehm

uname -r pls

without the pls

14:55

:D

uname -r

:D

14:55

2.6.32-42stab138.1

ehm

14:56

we need to convince your boot loader to load a newer kernel

14:56

so first we need to figure out what boot loader you even use :<

what do you mean

you know what I think, does your provider allow you to upload your own .iso files to install a different operating system? (edited)

i think no

give us the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg please

(switch to centos) xd

ok

like some option in your web interface where you can upload a .iso file and tell the web interface to install it. but first Ich think heinrich kniws his stuff, so guess first try that long way.

14:58

like some option in your web interface where you can upload a .iso file and tell the web interface to install it. but first Ich think heinrich kniws his stuff, so guess first try that long way.

@jxsl13 can't

no grub o_0

boot might not be mounted

14:59

I never leave it mounted

hm

15:00

@justabutterflier apt search linux-image

15:00

please

apt install linux-image?

that doesn't sound right

would it be ok to download that tar archive from mediafire and test if it works? so I can have some peace of mind?

@Learath2 it seems that the newest kernel is a) not loaded by the boot loader or b) not installed

15:02

try apt install linux-image-amd64 (edited)

15:03

IIRC debian can have multiple linux kernels installed side-by-side

man

15:03

i really need to go to centos

centos is even older usually

ohh

ubuntu wouod be the better choise

15:04

would

if the hosting provider has a recent version of ubuntu

maybe compile gcc?

but download the tar archive

windows 95 it's good

the provider has 16.04

i can choose this:

@justabutterflier

what's that 4 years old?

yes

15:05

2016

15:06

@Learath2 any idea on how to fix the debian install?

can you download the tar archive xD

15:06

unpack it

15:06

and start ./zcatch_srv

@jxsl13 you can test it yourself, too, btw

Indon't have a debian installation

docker run -it --rm debian:buster

urgh

what?

I mean you could get the kernel and install it with dpkg

15:07

reboot and let apt-get fix the system

well, docker just for that... he's on debian and trying to run it, wuy not try run the precompiled binary.

docker is probably in your package repository

I bet it is

@heinrich5991 are we upgrading to buster?

stretch

15:09

debian 9?

why settle with oldstable?

8

the upgrade is to 9

15:09

the current is 8

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/linux-image-amd64

15:09

You can just get the deb file and force install it with dpkg

not stretch though

15:10

we're upgrading to buster

is buster 10?

15:10

hm k

wget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-signed-amd64/linux-image-4.19.0-9-amd64_4.19.118-2_amd64.deb

Oh wait, is this a VM btw?

yes

15:11

or at least I'd guess it is

OpenVZ wouldn't allow upgrading the kernel iirc

it's vm

oh, I'm not aware of that

If it's an OpenVZ container, you are out of luck, for a KVM machine you can

systemd-detect-virt

15:12

@justabutterflier

failtime

15:13

fail time

15:13

yes

15:13

it's fail

15:13

we shouldn't try

systemd-detect-virt failed?

it's openvz

15:13

ahaha no

yeah there is a reason they don't offer any newer a version of debian, shithoster

oh

15:14

sorry

15:14

nono

15:14

host is great

okay, back to debian 9 I guess

15:14

what is the hoster?

1.2$/month huh

lol

yep

15:14

tru einfo from gerdoe

Just install whatever version of Debian your hoster offers

very stable and good host but cheap

15:14

i installed debian 9

then you can build gcc by hand

link to hoster pls

firstvds.ru

15:15

runet

15:15

russian host

15:15

moscow host

jxsl13 why cant zcatch compile by bam?

ovh top

1

xd

in russia you can buy fresh bread by 0.3 dollars

doesn't matter, it's C++17 features that's blocking, not the build system

15:17

meh this is just a lost cause, idk how you can use a newer gcc with such an old glibc

let's stop this

15:18

ok?

15:18

i'm just a bit unlucky

15:18

sorry for wasting time

15:18

i broke my 7 servers

reinstall the debian 9 image I guess

for what

15:18

?

so you have a working system again

xd nice

they sgow debian 10 in their info graphic in the knioledgebase.

@heinrich5991 you have a plan to get debian 9 to run a newer gcc and glibc?

compile it.

they sgow debian 10 in their info graphic in the knioledgebase.

@jxsl13 it's for not very cheap variants

hm, ok.

@jxsl13 any newer of a glibc won't run on such an old kernel

I had this working on debian 8

@Learath2 no

bye

@Learath2 just to have a working os again

15:21

bye

this is not done yet!

sorry for not realizing the openvz thing

zarche dead... F

needs to reinstall the OS and come back ._.

I didn't even remember a 2.6.32 existing, such an old kernel

the 2.6.32 line was the one that existed like forever

Pretty normal given OpenVZ is a pretty dead platform

until linus decided to just go 3.0

maybe you can build the new glibc with old kernel support

wait, even debian stretch has a kernel version of 4.9

15:24

so the openvz kernel had something weird already

there should be a knob somewhere for it

15:25

@heinrich5991 you can't change the kernel of an openvz container

15:26

maybe just new gcc would be enough too

@jxsl13 i cant

I started a debian buster docker container and the downloaded version works

15:57

wget https://puu.sh/FKN8T/45f15cfc95.xz (edited)

15:58

rip

16:00

@justabutterflier did you reinstall your operating system?

how to compile tw 0.1.0? xD

don't think there are sources to that

tw sources or manuals?

tw sources

oh

16:02

check up ur 2012's message x)

16:02

downloads.teeworlds.com

teeworlds is not "that long" on github

my bad :)

16:02

I thought it'd date back to 0.3 or 0.2

hehe

16:03

so...

16:03

how to compile it

is there a bam.lua?

there is default.bam

well

16:05

some early bam version maybe

16:05

never heard of a file called default.bam

16:05

bam 0.1?

16:05

0.2?

16:05

0.3?

16:05

maybe not 0.3

bam bam

16:06

masterserver''s source here too xd

teeworlds has always shipped masterserver source

huh

16:09

-- 
function copy(output, input)
    print("copy " .. PathFilename(output))
    local copy_command
    
    if family == "windows" then
        copy_command = "copy"
        input = str_replace(input, "/", "\\")
        output = str_replace(output, "/", "\\")
    else
        copy_command = "cp"
    end

    os.execute(copy_command .. " " .. input .. " " .. output)
    return 0
end

16:09

lua?

16:11

ahahahah

weapons.tga

1 MB

16:11

nice

bam 0.1.0 dead

17:10

meh

Try with later bam versions?

there some problems

18:04

18:06

hey

18:06

there are some .ai files

noooooo

23:50

why

23:50

how to fix it

23:50

@heinrich5991 sorry for ping help me if you can

23:53

@jxsl13

23:53

hi (edited)

23:55

oh fixed