Teeworlds - general

@Sonix did you make ctf_tantum? if yes, what exact name does this map go by? simply ctf_tantum?

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00:12

was told it's been created by @heinrich5991

00:12

Yes i Made it, it’s one of the first versions

05:09

Nowadays it goes by the name of ctf8

Hello

11:51

So I've been curious as to what's been going on in the community lately

11:54

are there any large events planned in the future? have there been any efforts to revitalize the community?

I think content and mod creation is the best way to help in that regard.

also you can check community part at the teeworlds forum

yeah, that's one thing

13:56

I feel like I have a lot of questions, what about official servers? Were there any plans to have some? Is the general consensus on yes/no?

13:56

resources lacking?

for... what?

there's not really initiative for doing something like that

13:56

one possible reason would be matchmaking

official servers aint be popular because vanilla mods dead already...( (edited)

yeah... while reading on the forums I saw that concern raised and theory given that it is due to the misbalance

@heinrich5991 i think matchmaking might be only with account system -> no opensource

an account system is orthogonal to open source

13:58

you can have one, and the other

maybe some mod-creators would create private matchmaking client/server

I, for one, support all ideas that would help in filling the vanilla gamemode servers

14:00

question, is there some sort of chart to see how peak players flunctuated over the years?

uhm

I remember there being like 1.3k active players on 0.6 several years ago (counting all gamemodes)

i dont know is that service working but yes

14:01

and i forget name...

oh, I found one, status.tw

14:04

unfortunately, I don't think it runs it over the years, which is a shame

@heinrich5991 Do you know mastodon?

I'm aware of it

14:05

I'm not using

so... going back to matchmaking... what's the current consensus on that? I'm just interested

I think no one is motivated to do anything on that tbh

real interested

at least I'm not aware of anyone

ah I see

14:07

so it's not out of the question, just missing manpower willing to work on it, got it

I think there's also some people opposed to it in the sense that they won't do anything that helps this project

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wouldn't be surprised

14:08

no matchmaking feels tee-ish, as in, one is just used to it not being part of the teeworlds

14:12

having an active server for each difficulty, (casual, advanced, expert) could work wonders. The issue would be having players in those servers. Currently, all skill groups are meshed into one or two servers usually which often creates large skill disparity and possibly makes the newbies feel... hopeless? (edited)

yes, definitely

14:23

when people can't go up a ledge and are up against players that go at insanely fast speeds on ctf5, it's hopeless ^^

creates a breed of players who are persevere enough to try to climb that ledge

You can't prevent good players from joining noob servers anyway

0.4-0.5 is gold time of vanilla

you can if you have a ranking system, @Dune

Well @Dune a matchmaking system could indeed prevent people from joining noob servers

14:28

that's the point of matchmaking, we do the matching

What happens with a lot of games that are as old as Teeworlds: it gets harder for newcomers to fit in

people still join cs:go just fine

(games like csgo overcome that with matchmaking)

14:29

it's like we are telepathic

@Learath2 you would need a large population and even then I'm not convinced you would be able to prevent smurfs :/

oh definitely not, smurfs were always a thing

@heinrich5991 isn't it a paying game

@Dune no, you can play it for free, these days

Huh

smurfing would still be an issue, yes. But at least all the goods players wouldn't be forced in with the newbies. The people that are cruel enough to play against noobs all the time are definitely a %

But I don't think we have enough players to make this a reality

CS exists since 2000, older than teeworlds

All 10-year old games I know are really tough to get in as a complete noob :/ maybe CS is =/=

people still join the game

14:30

I think people are also still joining LoL

You cant join LoL matchmaking as a noob, you get rekt

With CS they can aggressively move smurfs up the ranks and prime matchmaking prevents free smurfs from ruining paid noobs games

I have 4 years of experience and I get smashed in bronze

@Dune a couple of times, then you get into wood league

1998*

I thought so too... but its all smurfs

14:31

Maybe there are some better anti smurfs system in csgo etc

xd

But that would be very complex to do on Teeworlds while being transparent

lol has a nice 30 level buffer to discourage smurfing

@Learath2 somehow doesn't work afaict

atleast it used to take quite some time to get to level 30

It does but the bottom of matchmaking is still stupid hard, no noob seems to play ranked

cs:go tries to match smurfs with smurfs IIRC

well as someone who spent a long time in bronze, it made me realise that it's more that your team mates are retarded then the other team having smurfs

14:34

it gets exponentially hard to get out of bronze because 1 person is hardly enough to carry 4 dimwits

shouldn't the other team be full of silly people as well?

in theory, you don't need to do that, though; you only need to be the deciding factor in a couple of games

No but like, the players are really good imo. Everyone knows how to last hit etc, things were different at the beginning of the game

well after I climbed up to the top of silver games were much more evenly matched

in the lowest ranks of cs:go, you see people emptying their whole magazine without killing each other

So cs:go works well, interesting

anyway, managing a ladder is tough

14:36

Well I have 2 low rank csgo accounts I purposefully keep at a low rank to have fun

do people playing with you get a 'low trustfactor' warning?

hm, not sure