Teeworlds - general

this game runs on less than a toaster (edited)

00:40

it runs on potatoes

i've had it be pretty laggy on some linuxes, probably because of drivers

lag is video fault, he is talking about the background

check ur binds (edited)

06:05

i think u just turned off the background

hey guys, did you know that the two bases of ctf2 aren't perfectly mirrored?

@Souly as strange as that sound, it can very well be a driver thing

09:46

@mind are they not?

09:47

09:52

@Dune no

@Sonix

yeah, it's always been like that

on purpose?

you might want to ask matricks about that

surely that's a bug? lol

i wanted to keep its original aspect

I can hardly see matricks in his swedish mansion, saying "and this block shall be one pixel further on the blue size"

its been played like that for 10 years nobody ever ranted about it or even noticed it

now I'm ranting

sur1 is uneven too

10:10

on purpose that is

so we're not fixing bugs when maps go past 10 years? sounds like legacy code :D

its not that

10:12

why change it now? do we put it closer to the hearts (red) or closer to the flag (blue)

10:13

I'm not against it just saying

i think red base might enable easier grenade fastcap, while blue base enables easier no weapons fastcap

^^

I think someone just messed up when first creating the map ^^

both sound preferrable to a map where one side is advantaged

little error shit happens

its not a game changing bug

10:18

else people (high level) would've noticed it long time ago

speaking of a-symetry why do we not have a single a-symetric ctf map? it's an intresting concept imo and could add some diversity

Still, a fix in either side sounds preferrable to the current situation to me @Sonix

I can fix it for symmetry perfection's sake

10:25

@Zatline sometimes some teams (in assymetric maps) have more advantages than the other one

i think it souldn't be changed, because it might mess around with fastcap strats (maybe even times)

10:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOgR3TPu1VIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOgR3TPu1VI

avalonkiller

Teeworlds Teerace FastCap ctf2-no-weapons

10:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xPcX8B2nAQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xPcX8B2nAQ

avalonkiller

Teeworlds Teerace FastCap ctf2

commmon example is 1 team top and the other one bottom

10:25

highground advantage

yeah @Sonix I figured but I mean I know it could work if map is done right it has been done in other games as well so a try at it could be worth .. not saying that I personally would like it but it wwould be intresting to see what we could come up with :p

10:28

yea teams sould play from left and right always :p

Yeah i'm not against it, im open to new ideas and designs

10:29

but i'll require a lot of testing to come up with something decent

I mean if I remember back tw had some extremly popular ctf maps that were not symetric back in the days and they worked quite well if my memory is right example "pirates"

(edited)

10:32

true it will definitely take good time that's a fact

Btw what do you think of a tile that won't reflect lasers and if hit by a grenade the aoe damage is 0. Design could be some sort of sticky overlay or moss for the jungle maps.

sort of swampy sticky tiles?

y or like honey or bubble gum, but idk XD

10:49

but i didn't mean slowing down player movement with sticky

we were promised slopes for 0.7

10:54

:(

10:55

black tiles absorbing light, getting warm for a specific period of time, killing players if touched.

10:55

that light being lasers

environmental fighting could be interesting

what I would love to see is some elements like water and fire some physics mechanics

What about vector based maps, dynamic/interactive objects and map scripting?

11:40

Just to add some more things that basically require you to rewrite the game

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that would be next level I'd like that

1 tile = 1 object of struct/class (edited)

14:24

with virtual method

14:24

would be nice and no

the virtual calls might start to add up at that point

af

14:30

how is freeze tile working?

ddnet?

yep

The character entity knows it's position, it checks what kinda tile it's in and does it's thing

same with virtual funcs

14:31

isnt it?

virtual function calls are more expensive

thats it (edited)

well you'd call the virtual function for every single tile you cross

14:31

even if the tile has no specific function or applies to this entity

14:32

it would definitely look cuter though

also

14:33

it'd be much more memory-expensive

14:33

currently we have 4 bytes per tile (which is already too much, we could have 2)

for(CTile &Tile : CrossedTiles) { Tile.Handle(this); }

class CTile { char a, b, c, d; void Handle(CCharacter *pChar); }

make it CEntity * and you can have tiles that work for projectiles too

14:35

well any entity

14:35

but then I guess you either need a dynamic cast or a entity type enum

systematic tiles are better in code writing but what do it cost...

14:40

sorry for bad english

it doesn't cost so much and you can technically improve teeworlds with quad-trees or kd-trees

kd?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-d_tree

K-d tree

In computer science, a k-d tree (short for k-dimensional tree) is a space-partitioning data structure for organizing points in a k-dimensional space. k-d trees are a useful data structure for several applications, such as searches involving a multidimensional search key (e.g. ...

holy mother

What would we even do with a quadtree, kd tree, or maybe even an octree?

currently we are iterating over every character for character projectile interaction