Teeworlds - general

@Tezcan i want to report a bug: you can't shoot when holding the scoreboard. This is unaccaptable for racing

Assa is a hater

10:31

Teeworlds 0.7 default client

huh, that's strange, how can server-side enforce that?

i have no idea, it's a unique server gimmik

Server shouldn't know about you opening the scoreboard

i can reproduce it very easily, I could stream it if you want

10:33

I know that the server is a 0.6 and 0.7 sever and maybe there is an error in the protocol

10:34

Assa is a hater

@Trafalgar Law yes, i am a bug hater, those filthy things break stuff

server gets information about you having the scoreboard open

10:37

it's in the input flags

10:37

(same about menus open btw)

TIL

TIL? P.S.: weapon switichg doesn't work, too

today I learned

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10:43

bug @timakro I think

it's not the player flags haha

11:00

will have to do some tracking down in the client i guess

it has to be a server issue, it's working on other 0.7 servers

lmao

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Its the meta

lmao 16 player scoreboard in 2020

I wonder maybe a scroll option could be helpful or pages (edited)

Pages work best because mousescroll may be bound ingame

yea right

+1

there is more of this

21:04

i see everyone with virus type nicks on this server

And how should one change pages without binding it to a key @Dune ?

you bind it to a key, obviously

It would overload my simple brain to change pages while playing ._.

21:50

Yea then you also have binds that might be used for something else already

You can see that you can't bind scroll to a key, yet you can bind pages to a key

21:50

It's a bind, you can set it to whatever you want that doesn't conflict

Ah

21:51

I thought it’s just a concept and also a scroll bar can be rebound

You can't get a scrolling effect with keys, it looks bad

But big f4 for keypresses on scoreboard. Holding the hook and tab hey while hanging somewhere and checking if mates already left is struggle enough. Then hitting another key to iterate the pages yikes

Teeworlds isn't geared for more than 16players doing actual PvP shooting at each other

Just use the awesome ddnet Scoreboard nobody ever had a problem with it

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for other game modes, you don't need to be looking at everyone without stopping

I don’t see pvp limit for 16

21:53

If the map is fine sky is the limit

I know people who come from ddnet are used to their scoreboard, but as an outsider, I'm frankly not convinced that it won't look terrible + overlap with chat etc

21:54

64 people on a screen is a lot

21:54

maps are limited vertically, that's why people struggle to even get a 8v8 ctf map

It’s not that ddnet users had get used to it

21:55

I had to get used to a lot of 0.7 things but not to ddnet scoreboard

Well some mechanics like wrapping the chat on the left of the scoreboard would be broken, lower resolutions will probably break,

Well deathmatch or team deathmatch works for sure

21:56

Never tried flag based with more than 16 so idk

what happens in team games? when there is more than 32 players on a side?

21:56

I know it sounds silly rare but it has to be robust

21:58

If you can design a 64 player scoreboard that

changes size like the current one when going to 12+
doesn't break anywhere
is readable

I'm happy

@ChillerDragon

make the dune happy grea

@Ryozuki I wish teeworlds had more sound options

i love how tw devs always self impose limits

@Dune do you even zilly

@jao what u doin here

@ChillerDragon does zilly respect these three points?

wat

@jao get out!

wtf

How does it not respect

does it keep the chat wrapping mechanics?

@jao i literally never seen u here xd

I don't know, I'm asking you

Eh Idk

22:02

Never had any problems

i never had such a small display

Im on FullHD tho

22:02

But chat is fine

dune ranting on ddnet scoreboard without knowing it grea

but ofc we gotta pleasure the 640x480 players

22:02

otherwise tw will be a shithole

22:02

xd

better keep low res than allow bigger teams AntonXu

I know what it looks like and I'm raising problems about it

this is how the glorius ddnet client scoreboard looks

Like I said, if you can design a scoreboard that meets these three points, I'm personally happy with it

Nah I think it’s good you defend poor potato screens and people that have no voices here

and yes it wraps chat

But I think ddnet client is kinda known and tested so I guess it’s fine

@ChillerDragon you are being dishonest, readability was one point of the three

Well readable on a assumed average resolution of FullHD @Dune

say 1080

22:04

or

Even tho 4K is a thing since years

Teeworlds must work properly below FullHD, of course

even 720 is fine

22:05

yeah it must work at 480p

yeah

whats not readable about it

Do you have a 480p screenshot?

In the issue

22:05

There is one I think

Doesn't this one take the whole screen though? looks different

22:05

its so small

22:05

nobody uses this

22:06

but it works fine

readable

Looks readable to me@

xdd

Ye

this is the whole btw

lmao

22:06

edgar

xd

big dox

eh its known dont worry

Who knows if this is readable, our screens would stretch this to shit, someone needs to try on an actual 480p screen

22:16

If they even make those anymore

I think stretch is wrongly configured shouldn’t it just add some black borders

22:18

Also the window mode should not stretch it

well pixel densities are not what they used to be

22:19

we have a lot more pixels on the screen, thus our screens are denser, thus it actually looks ridiculously small on our screens

Oh

we need a monitor with old thiccc pixels

But when that monitor does a screenshot will it display different on current monitors?

22:21

Or do we need a professional photo of the actual screen

the screenshot should be the same

22:21

but it'll look different

ChillerDragon u must see and understand that it's not about making the game more suitable for some specific non-vanilla mode that happens to makes use of 64 players or what ever, vanilla tw has always been 16 players and that's just fine .. sure u could make names smaller, and smaller, and smaller till everyone fits in sure .. but there is a point where u reach a limit and 64 surly is the very upper limit. I personally find it overwhelming and for Teeworlds it's really not necessary to push that upper limit either .. from a UI designing perspectiv there is nothing worst than clustering the screen full with unecessery information

with that being said I'd prefer a scrollable scoreboard the most

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