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Between 2020-03-10 00:00:00Z and 2020-03-11 00:00:00Z

@noby bot ⏫

lol

10:04

i told him already in ddnet #dev

10:04

he doesnt care

ddnet7 sucks

U

they better should kill it & stay on 0.6

Ok cool story

u rq

?

keep playing on 0.6, tw commu wont miss u @Deleted User :)

@Iman well sure, afterall 0.7 is not that good also. But well, we'll see =))

Hater

no, it is just bad

What is bad

"physics change"

10:10

XDDDD

10:10

"ddnet not on 0.7"

the way they just "destroy" the browser list, by having so many servers

10:11

Hope someone will just attack them o 0.7

10:11

idc about 0.6

new arguments wow

you don't have any so (edited)

wdym by

the way they just "destroy" the browser list, by having so many servers

@Deleted User ?

10:15

too ,many servers ?

10:15

is that an issue for u ?

@Iman people just see so much ddnet, without ddnet, it would give more advantages to people who wants to create new mods

10:17

so

10:17

I just hope (edited)

it's 0.6

someone attacks ddnet7

ohhhhh

10:18

srry a mistake from me i tought we were talking about tw 0.6 and 0.7 not about ddnet7

10:18

then ur right sry

no

10:19

0.6 is already dead

10:19

idc about 0.6, even if I host on it

im sorry for being agressive with you @Deleted User , i didnt understood the point of the discussion and i tought u were arguing that tw 0.6 was better than tw 0.7

i personally prefer 0.6 over 0.7

11:04

its where my most popular server is + where i actualy play + can enjoy it with antiping

11:05

i live in usa and ive never played without antiping :X

Share your antiping

its better than nothing but its not as good as 0.6

11:05

it was just an experiment in copy-pasting

You could Help 0.7 with thar

11:06

That

11:06

^^

i cant even change the damn screen resolution

11:06

i cant see what i type in chat

11:06

its max size no matter what i do

11:06

very annoying

11:06

someone already made an issue about it on github

11:09

and 0;7 makes my fans spin like crazy but 0.6 doesnt so im not too excited about helping even more players leave the version i currently prefer playing

just turn those fans off.

11:15

problem solved

then my computer will die

problem solved

11:21

xD

no it is not solved

11:27

@jxsl13 because i will find another computer and come back to complain more

damn. turn off your fan?

11:40

._.

@noby this is because you have a macbook

11:46

shit computer :v)

Use Ubuntu instead

use macOS 10.11 instead

but

13:36

its teeworlds

13:36

it should be able to run easily on any modern hardware no matter how shitty

13:37

its a 2d game from fifteen years ago

13:37

if it makes the fans spin hard then somethings wrong

Louis Rossmann also loves fan spin.

use FreeBSD instead

use shitOS instead

@noby which fan? getting 100% CPU?

e.g. the job queue hogs cpu unnecessarily

i assume it uses more cpu

14:44

since i play on a macbook and i dont have a gpu

the main loop just runs non-stop. so it will use 100% of one core

on 0.6 there is some waiting integratedinto the main loop so that it doesnt do that right?

for ddnet yes. but today it's disabled by default

im playing tw with ddnet version 10 always

cl_refresh_rate i think

the new ddnet lags me

14:45

0.7 lags me even more

14:45

vanilla is fine but no antiping (edited)

14:46

yeah i could mess with the refresh rate/ gfx refresh rate

14:46

but the fact that i cant see what i type in chat is really frustrating

os for reference pls

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@redix cl_cpu_throttle though?

cpu throttle def helps

14:48

but then the fps is lower than i can get with .6

ah yeah. forgot about that

its much more playable with this slightly lower fps

14:48

but since ddnet can do high fps and no fans spinning

14:48

i feel like there must be a solution for 0.7 to do the same

does your client have cl_refresh_rate ?

ues

14:49

wait

what value is it?

06 or 07

0.6 ddnet

no

14:49

wait

how many fps do you cap at? how many fps do you want?

480

14:49

is cl_refresh_rate on 0.6 ddnet

ah yeah that was the old default

and same for gfx_refresh_rate

so it limits fps and gameloop runs per second to 480

how many fps do you cap at on 0.7 with cpu_throttle* ?

actually about the same huh

14:50

but my fans spin abit more

14:51

my fans have been spinning all night cus im running sum scripts on my laptop so this isnt a good test

14:51

hmm

14:51

ill pause stuff

@LordSk 🦋 introduced _mm_pause with the 0.7 limitfps feature, but I'm not sure it actually works on macbooks?

what does cpu throttle do

14:53

it does seem to help this problem alot

sleep(1ms) (edited)

i need to restart the computer and pause even more stuff and probably free up some disk space to do a real test but it does help

_mm_pause is used incorrectly there

14:54

it's not giving up the os's cpu slice

14:54

is it still in the code?

should be

ah, apparently

there is even a bam config thing to check if the system supports SSE2 iirc

unnecessary complexity for using a feature that isn't intended for this purpose :/

I don't know much about it, it seemed to do the job

and it only works on intel cpus; arm is a thing

Yeah, that's why there's the check

14:58

noby's macbook is definitely intel though

yes. but now there's nothing similar happening on arm

14:58

ye

so what do games do, sleep?

ddnet sleeps

15:10

calculating the time it should sleep by checking how much time is left each tick

ah, ok

Some players

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far from full!

19:20

might test the server info pull request.

i have serverside dummies, can do it using them

19:32

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19:32

64 tees, all name and client as many big i's as possible

19:33

without pr

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