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Between 2020-02-18 00:00:00Z and 2020-02-19 00:00:00Z

so anyone using i3 here?

not anymore

12:48

sway these days

I think @Ryozuki is

i am using i3gaps

13:01

with polybar

minus: ma boi! :D

13:48

it was mostly about trolling chillerdragon, who asked if anyone is using gnome. :>

13:49

i believe wayland doesnt work with nvidia right?

nvidia doesn't work with wayland

after some googling, apparently you can enable wayland support with nvidia-drm.modeset=1 (but it seems to be riddled with bugs)

Oh thanks I’ll look into it. Seems like i should switch to amd. Because I like gnome

i prefer a working system over wayland ioi

the only good thing about amd drivers appears to be that they are semi opensource, problem is they don't appear to be good

good evening everyone

good evening kilitr

Dune - this channel is not quite acitve, is it ? :D

moderately

@heinrich5991 what kind of tool do you need for your http master server attempt?

21:42

(referring to teeworlds network discord)

@jxsl13 a tool which can periodically dump all server infos would be good

I got one

22:44

but not in c++

that's fine

you can do that with my golang api

22:45

currently started my discord bot that retrieves the master server data every 16 seconds.

that's a starting block, but not quite what I wanted from them. they already seem to have the tooling to show all teeworlds' servers statuses on their website

22:45

ah

22:45

yea, that sounds good

22:46

can you link me the repo again so I can bookmark it?

might take a look, it's in my github repo

22:46

https://github.com/jxsl13/TeeworldsDiscordBotGo

(btw, also for you discord bot, you could consider polling less often for empty servers)

22:48

to produce less traffic for all the servers

I feel like that is a miniscule amount of traffic compared to one player playing on a server.

22:56

and introducing different update intervals makes the data kind of inconsistent.

22:56

isn't that the same as a person refreshing their server list?

what do you mean with inconsistent?

I want people to have the latest data when searching for a friend check if a gamemode is currently being played

22:57

like if zCatch is empty and people wait for someone to play there

22:58

they check their discord

22:58

might be less traffic compared to them actually refreshing their browser multiple times ingame?

yea, but they don't do it every 15 seconds, all day long

22:59

I dunno, I don't like hitting other people's servers

it's jus browsing the server list like an ingame server browser

22:59

often

except it's doing it every 15s

23:00

when you're scraping a website you're also "just" navigating it like a user with a browser

I think that traffic is not much compared to players playing on a server.

but you're also hitting them when people are not playing

it's a lot when done on an extended duration, I agree with heinrich on that

imagine 50 people hosting your discord bot

(and you hosting many servers on one actual machine)

the server expects 16 to 64 players playing 24/7

23:01

expecting as much traffic.

23:01

I doubt anyone will use that bot.

23:01

maybe one or two people

23:01

at most

23:02

one would not host a game server if they don't expect at least some kind of player traffic.

23:02

it's basically a max of 1500bytes, let's say 2KB every 16 seconds.

23:04

10.8 mb per day

23:04

one teeworlds game

I get 33MB per server per month per instance running at 200bytes

23:05

(rough size observed by opening teeworlds)

per instance running at 200bytes what do you mean by that?

per instance of the bot running and assuming 200 bytes for the server answer because I just measured it with wireshark

ah, ok

23:08

well, I calculated with the max packet size value

23:09

1,08 mb per server per day

23:09

based on 200bytes per request on average

23:10

._. I'm dumb, just now understood that you actually meant the instance

23:10

of a bot

taking ddnet servers as a reference (ger), looking at their traffic, I see 100GB/month

23:12

at 16 servers, your bot roughly causes 500MB/month

23:12

i.e. 0.5% cost increase. that might be okay

1/200

23:13

playr

(although ddnet servers are well populated, so cost increase will be larger for smaller servers)

maybe implementing a callback would result in much less traffic

player

assuming most servers are empty

player

23:14

well, I wonder if anybody actually pays or their traffic.

23:14

that hosts a gameserver Oo

traffic isn't free, some server hosters subsidize it

23:14

(outbound)

23:16

but 0.5% is okay, I think, unless more people start running your software

if more people would use the bot via discord, it would lessen the actual load on server.

23:17

servers

that's a hypothesis

well, on startup the browser refreshes anyway

providing a rest api for server querying :o, how's that

23:33

status.tw already has that tho

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