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Between 2020-01-04 00:00:00Z and 2020-01-05 00:00:00Z

Chillerdragon: you may wanna put this z7 bot on a ban list idk

okay so i have found it, the cause of this weird "resetting" is, that i send the CNetObj_SpectatorInfo, to properly update the viewpos.

02:25

if i dont send spectatorinfo, the target doesnt reset. but if i dont send it it doesnt make sense since the camera doesnt follow the other tee

02:25

But still weird that the target resets

doesnt make sense, client is okay too. i cant find where this behavior comes from yet

02:51

i know in which function now, but still

02:54

there the error comes from.

02:58

okay cool, if i comment out client/controls.cpp#L142 ClampMousePos();, then the bug doesnt appear anymore AND the mosuepos is still clamped, because ClampMousePos(); gets called in CControls::OnRender() too, every tick.

03:01

so that means, since the mouse pos is still clamped BUT this reset bug doesnt happen, that between the clampmousepos call in onrender and the sending of the mousepos somthing happens with the mosuepos

03:01

because after the call of clampmousepos from the snapinput function, the input is instantly applied

03:02

I doubt we need the ClmapMousePos call in SnapInput

03:06

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/commit/055685406afc7b726f0126f0efc96bc6302da7b6#diff-c41ff3a713742e1dae8932366f246bc9 this commit adds it. I tested the dynamic camera on spec player, and it works fine without that line. gonna PR

cant this be closed? https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/158

In game statistics · Issue #158 · teeworlds/teeworlds

What about a more detailed scoreboard at the end of each game with ratios, accuracy etc.

I don’t like bans day :/ you can write !disconnect in chat and he will disconnect and also z7 leaves the server when there are more than 3 players online. It is there to keep nameless tees busy and bring live to the game.

who/what is z7 ?

my bot that walks around randomly and has a crappy aimbot

@fokkonaut read the last comments of the issue

Dune: do you happen to be here per chance?

Learath2:

Do you happen to be familiar with the stl containers?

12:03

I have a container that I'm retro-fitting to behave like an stl one but section 23 of the standard isn't exactly easy to read

I'm not familiar with the standard, sorry :/

@ChillerDragon I'll be whatching it closely, (beware of master rule, keep it dumb enough)

which master rule exactly rand?

around player counts resembling actual players, probably

and how is a actual player defined?

human being

uff

14:13

then i am breaking the rule :/

I don't know what your bot does

it connects

14:13

and plays

14:13

and is non human

what servers does it join?

14:14

servers with active players?

it joins and leaves if player count exceeds 3 or 4 or someone writes !disconnect in chat and then it reconnects after 60 minutes to check again

14:15

it joins a vanilla server

sounds okayish

@ChillerDragon "The player count shown must resemble the amount of human players."

14:17

Wanted to touch a word about this

14:18

The bot tag is made for this

14:18

But of course, there is the issue that you cannot set the bot tag without modifying the source, and then you cannot use the CTF gametype string :/

you cannot set it from the client, I think intentionally so

Yes heinrich5991

14:20

I don't see a good solution, maybe you do?

I don't, short of doing something global

So keep the status quo

14:22

It is abusable though

yes

@Dune which?

after https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/158#issuecomment-488256976

In game statistics · Issue #158 · teeworlds/teeworlds

What about a more detailed scoreboard at the end of each game with ratios, accuracy etc.

ah, yes

when there is a usability issue, it is good to list the desirable use cases

14:38

we want

14:38

no user ids

14:38

user ids with no nameplates

14:38

is there a benefit to "user ids with nameplates"?

no

14:38

Well

14:39

for vanilla servers maybe because people can have the same name

14:39

But i could (if wanted) add the ddnet auto rename to (x)name

14:39

i applied it on my server too, it also checks for confusables, such as small L and big i

Maybe there is a pretty way to go about it, yeah

14:40

should be discussed

yes

i activate ids only in debug mode and only look at the ids in the nameplates like in the old days

14:53

btw i challange you guys to reproduce this log on a vanilla server hehe

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the usability of ids in nicknames is for administrative purposes and so that I can spot enemies faster, as their nicknames are wider.

15:05

or rather nameplates

@ChillerDragon my guess is force_vote no"

15:11

eh

15:11

vote no"

15:11

https://www.xkcd.com/859/

@oy, can you merge https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2361 ? (edited)

fokkonaut, hm, dunno if that other clamp is needed, probably have to test

@ChillerDragon player count or vanilla gameplay, depending of the complainer feelings, I did shutdown angelina()/bot() because of this :c

@oy i tested it and it is not required.

15:36

if you'd like i can show you what the bug is, and you can test that this doesnt affect the other fix but will help my problem

server bots might be implemented nicely one day and pushed to upstream for vanilla gameplay

xdd new achievement, i just closed an issue thats about 5.5 years old with this tee stuck pr xd

idk probably @heinrich5991 xd

15:41

rand i did not understand what you wanted to say when talking about player count and feelings

@fokkonaut the commit i did might have been not just about the issue it closed. there used to be camera bugs in survival gametypes too

But this can't affect it

15:42

Well, you can test I guess?

15:42

because i dont know which one you are talking about

@ChillerDragon about player report ^^ servers are banned whenever sby reports it with a valid reason

hm i see

15:45

i guess day just did?

no, you should know by staying here ^^

rand:server bots might be implemented nicely one day and pushed to upstream for vanilla gameplay

15:51

that would be the best solution

15:52

to allow somehow servers to implement bots and report them as such

i have serverside bots

your bot is far more discreet than mine and I shutdown mine as a safety measure

they can also move, but they dont have an AI they have hardcoded ways based on coords xd

@fokkonaut nice, do they move smoothly ?

@fokkonaut but you don't run vanilla servers so you don't have the issue

yes, you can check them out

15:54

true

iirc, bot|royal moved with hard coded path and some waypoints

iirc they did yeah

15:54

zomb bots don't but they cheat :p

what do you mean ?

they get extra double jumps when they struggle

15:55

wink @LordSk 🦋

wink wink

wink wink

xD

15:57

that explains a lot

they don't hook so when they need to go up, they fly

@oy when will you be able to make a decision on that pr? if possible id like to have a fix for this before the next rls :) (dont wanna push too much, sorry ^^)

definitely before next release :)

^^

any opinions about https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/pull/2359 ?

Add gun and hammer pickups again (closes #2358) by fokkonaut · Pu...

1- why 2-... why

^

16:34

is there a gameplay reason to add these?

for my side, yes

16:35

Check the conversation

16:35

(in the issue)

There should be a workaround

16:36

To add them in a mod

16:36

But on vanilla its pretty useless

of course, but this is required to display them

16:36

otherwise client doesnt know about them

16:36

so this is the base thats required to ever use them

honestly why not, it does not hurt the game and is consistent with the other weapons

yes

16:38

!

anyone wants to fight some zombies?

?

Yes but i only play 0.6

the new zombs are only on 0.7 :p

im in favour of those pickups

I'd come but we need @Sonix to win a round :D

Fine i will join

@fokkonaut doesnt it need a tile on the map editor?

yes, but since that isnt used in vanilla in any way the modded server can add it themselves i guess?

16:54

in v anilla it wouldnt make sense to have those tiles

i think we should add them

i dont think so. this is only to let the client show them again. i have added those tiles for myself, but dont use them, just use the pickups for dropped weapons

16:55

tiles are not needed, if someone really needs them they have an easy possibilty to add them. But this right here is needed to make that

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teeworlds race is missing a finish sound ^^

yes :)

maybe a start sound, too

19:51

but nothing sounds weird

teeworlds race is missing a server side implementation in vanilla

20:07

lol

20:08

vanilla now basically supports mods

a full official server mode would be a lot of work

20:09

mods already do that well so it's not very useful imo

can we have other mods supported in vanilla

20:10

that's basically the next question that follows

we just need checkpoints, start and finish

20:11

what's so hard about doing this?

clean code maybe?

you could even do some real race with rounds

20:11

*laps

there's an open issue to do this

las question qould be, can we have the ddnet client instead of vanilla

20:15

evil

booring

no

21:38

ddnet / ddrace destroyed teeworlds on 0.6

21:39

there is like 200 ddrace servers, we need more mod diversity

unfortunately, teeworlds pvp is a bit of a lonely experience

21:47

people who stick around in a game tend to be those who can have a social experience

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