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Between 2019-12-07 00:00:00Z and 2019-12-08 00:00:00Z

Hello world.

13:13

https://teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/server_rules

13:14

The server rules say a modified teeworlds cannot host the standard gametypes. Is this rule so strict as to deny a modified server from adding additional gametypes without modifying the original?

13:16

I'd like to host a multi-mode server with the standard and a few extra gametypes. The standard being completely vanilla and unmodified.

13:17

The alternative would require running the vanilla server alongside it and being forced to switch over manually to the other server for the standard modes.

you mean as long as sv_gametype is a standard gametype the server behaves exactly as vanilla but there is also sv_gametype mod?

13:19

sounds legal to me

13:20

But idk the border somewhat is to actually not modify the server code at all :/

ChillerDragon: Awesome. I've seen your name around a fair bit. Safe to say your approval suffices? :D

no

13:20

not save

13:21

im not your lawyer :/

Hehe

i am just guessing

Okay

13:22

Next question. Why would the ddnet client fail to connect to a new vanilla teeworlds server?

13:22

Was there a breaking change between versions?

well ddnet is still for 0.6 and vanilla updated to 0.7 which is a breaking realease last year

13:25

time to advertise my crappy and incomplete ddnet client port to 0.7 again https://zillywoods.github.io/ZillyWoods-web/

13:25

xd

ooo

13:26

Any chance of the non-entities features going vanilla?

13:27

and non-dummy

not really

13:27

most of them do not fit vanilla

13:27

The greensward skin might get vanilla

13:27

also cl_showpred could fit in vanilla

13:27

there was a no already to 64p scoreboard

showpred is my main interest from that list

Hello FrozenFox

and zoom and showhookcoil :)

13:28

Hello Dune

i can do a pr for showpred

It's a bit of an edge case but you'll be fine :) thanks for taking a thorough read through the rules

zoom and hookcoll are considered cheats in vanilla

13:29

and gameplay changing that wont happen

13:29

also zillywoods zoom does not work on non ddrace servers

They can be blocked by the client on the official modes

to avoid cheating

Just like that

13:29

ddnet's client restricts zoom too

yes

13:29

zilly works like ddnet

@ChillerDragon: the 64p scoreboard is planned, but not the way ddnet did it

13:30

just with pages

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2262

Add zoom(+/-) and hookline · Issue #2262 · teeworlds/teeworlds

Simple suggestion, please add it like in 0.6. I mean teeworlds lifes from ddrace and gores and we have not this nice function. I heard from dune thats not allowed to add this to any client so its m...

How different is 0.6 -> 0.7 ?

not too much

13:30

info changes like name clan and skin are impossilbe without reconnect

13:30

there is a new skin system and a new gametype

skin is possible

ok skin is now possible

only name and clan are immutable identities

but due to oudated servers and clients not too good

full list of changes: https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=news&id=12605

well it depends in what differences you are interested in the breaking protocol changes or all changes

@ChillerDragon right but the clients and servers broadcast their version so you can tell

What about antiping? I'm in Australia... it is a life saver to have as there aren't even any aussie servers at the moment..

Dune go update ddr :p

surrounded by lots of water

antiping is just "better predict"

13:32

no one ported it to 0.7 yet

antiping is very high on my todo but since i already failed porting it i do not expect to much very soon

13:32

too*

it is not an easy task

much wowo english

it really isn't

it should just be copieng code from ddnet^

the last ddnet rewrite should be there: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/0b3f3b

13:33

good luck "just copying code from ddnet" :D

well i usually go from bottom to top in the whole history

13:33

to keep original commit authors

13:34

but ye ikr i tried it already and it was a mess

It'd be really nice if network jitter and lag didn't contribute to solo play in races.

yes i was told multiple times that ddnet antiping is a game changer and reason number 1 for not updating to 0.7

That it is..

@ChillerDragon: ah, you successfully merged?

well it compiles

13:36

but you know the one flag is used twice

"compiles" is not that hard to achieve

13:36

"doesnt break" is :p

check pm for the issue

13:36

and blamed commits

ah, didnt see sry

13:37

those flags are unrelated to my mods though afaik

https://github.com/Dune-jr/teeworlds/commit/263f474c0256c0934b1849264c9dc09a3953e2f0

Initial race commit · Dune-jr/teeworlds@263f474

13:38

its from race

ahh

13:38

then it's tricky

ikr

redix will suffer the merge too

do it well ur fork is most forked 0.7 fork

13:39

xd

yeah I'll do it in time

13:39

deadline for 0.7.4 major changes is the 10th, though :)

The biggest game changer for me at the moment would be to buy a mouse ;)

13:39

(trackpad play isn't as bad as you'd think...)

haha i switched to touchpad again

huuuh

13:39

well you can use the joystick instead I guess :P

13:40

(wouldnt recommend)

i played my first full year tw with mousepad and i was way better with touchpad than mouse back then xxD

13:40

now that im always travelin around with laptop i went back to touchpad

13:40

touchpad not mousepad*

huuuh

13:40

impressuve

just a matter of training

ChillerDragon: I mostly play ddnet so... trackpad + >200ms ping isn't too bad but I was much better with a mouse

if you can trust sketchy unproofed sources some pro gores/ddrace players are touchpad mains

neat

13:41

But low latency probably..

oh yea i also play with hotspot from my phone xd

Anyone in here remember the n-lvl servers?

o/

I plan to bring that back as open source. Starting with clean 0.7 sources.

nice

Was messing around on a monster server yesterday. So sad that noise is the closest we have to n-level today....

i dont think so

13:44

lum lvl got open src latley as far as i know

Hm?

0.6 stuck around for an abnormal long time, and so it had exceptional community content

I heard something about LUM but didn't see any servers running or ...wait I searched from ddnet/0.6

yeah thats 0.7

!!!!!

!!!!!

one kill maybe..?

13:46

wow

ahh the memories.. okay.. so this is open you say?

https://github.com/VeH-c/LUM-Lvl-0.7.2 maybe

VeH-c/LUM-Lvl-0.7.2

Teeworlds 0.7.2 modification LUM | Level mod Levels, Upgrades & Mayhem - VeH-c/LUM-Lvl-0.7.2

Lookslike it:O

14:17

No git history :(

you can still get the diff

yeah but not as nice

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