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For discussions around the development of the official Teeworlds

Between 2019-12-04 00:00:00Z and 2019-12-05 00:00:00Z

@Dune what do you think about adding support for server side text rendering in the world, aka as an entity

15:58

It would make modders life better cuz drawing text with laser sucks and it isnt that good

15:58

For example i want to display health and mana on my moba mod right now i just show x hearts and x shield over the tee but its just a bad way

15:59

Floating texts as entity would allow lot of stuff for mods

15:59

Would u accept it if i develop it

15:59

I rly want this

16:00

On fng u could show a colored +1 or +3 when you kill someone for example

16:00

They do it with laser rn

16:00

Its also less eficient cuz u require more entities to draw it

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16:00

Ill make a issue later

Makes a lot of sense. We might be working on something in that direction ;) Not sure about opening an issue though, it would be very difficult to make a mod that is backwards compatible with previous versions of 0.7 teeworlds and uses this feature

@Ryozuki mmotee has text, also you could show a broadcast when hovering the mob with the cursor

Thats shit

16:08

We should really add server side text rendering as an entity

16:09

On a moba you need to see everyone hp mana at all times on the screen not just hovering someone

16:09

Its also ugly

16:10

And the tw 0.7 chat text is ugly too

Teeworlds is not a moba and mobbing on Teeworlds means being ready to make compromises

What im proposing is a basic mod friendly feature

16:11

So closed minded always

16:11

Idk why i even put effort on this

16:11

I bet even my actual prs will be closed cuz bloat (tm) (edited)

I think you will find that you get better results achieving what you want by not being condescending towards people

16:12

I bet even my actual prs will be closed cuz bloat (tm)

I don't think so

Well its hard to change my view of teeworlds as always denying things due to stupid reasons

I wonder what in vanille could make use of this feature, as I quite like the idea

16:17

vanilla

proper way of doing this would be to create a complete server side api for rendering custom things and release a new major version. while i agree that this would be useful, right now there are more and more things that dont work with older 0.7 versions. due to missing auto update many people are stuck on old versions. i've already seen quite a lot people who were wondering why skin change did not work on zcatch

I see myself waiting 4 years

16:19

@redix i thought about that too but didnt want to propose many thingw cuz tw guys would say it would be too much bloat

16:19

I also want to draw ui elements server side (edited)

yeah that would be cool... doing everything with chat commands is so annoying >.<

I would also love to be able to draw the entities with a color change

16:20

Server side

16:20

Aka make the grenade have a blue color on the ref parts

16:20

Red*

16:21

It would be also cool for client to be able to download custom non map entities

16:21

Such as skins for new guns

16:21

Thats true modding support

16:21

Which i fear will never be there

@Ryozuki Dune and I are working on it, please be patient for now

Working on it?

16:22

16:23

Let me express my (x) doubt (edited)

@LordSk 🦋 looks cool

^^

I hope it is not designed as the current ugly chat

16:24

Anf where are u working on it

16:25

Those are empty words

@Ryozuki enough aggressivity

Sorry for disagreeing with you, wont happen again

@redix yeah that's the issue, to do this properly you'd need to break compatibility

16:45

@Ryozuki it's good to see you interested and all, but if you keep shitting on everyone else's work, this will be a net negative, as you discourage everyone else. got it?

I think the auto update is a requirement for breaking backwards compatibility more often. It would make things go way smoother, as I also see people still using 0.7.2 even tho it doesn't e.g. support inhame skin changes.

yeah it's an issue

16:48

not sure if auto update would be well in teeworlds spirit. there is already a version server warning, isn't there? and steam auto updates as well

16:49

I guess there could be a button to make it easier?

16:49

do you know how ddnet handles it?

Ah the teeworlds spirit

16:51

I found the name of what i hate now

instead of a tiny notification in the serverbrowser there should be some huge popup each time you start the game when there is a new version

Good point

auto update would be cool but it would require some central server to distribute the files

16:54

tw devs never were big fans of this

this should be modifiable for everyone to be able to kinda host such a master server,/update server, but have the teeworods one as default setting, like the tw master servers are the default setting. (edited)

Teeworlds was built with decentralization in mind yeah

would make be in the "spirit" of tw

16:56

my phone fast typing skills are limited, sry for all of the mistakes.

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