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Actually, since 0.7, we always know who damages us, and how much

20:29

Maybe this could be exploited in statistics / "what killed you" kind of stuff, although I guess it is pretty clear in Teeworlds what kills you

kill messages yeah

who it is might be even more interesting before you die

20:31

but for sure not in fast pace vanilla. But maybe in some tactical long range bush camp mods

I was rather thinking about some end game statistics but we already have two boards for that

20:40

Some games have such a screen after you die but it doesn't fit teeworlds since you respawn so fast

u so you meant exploit ina positive feature sense xd

20:42

i thought exploits are nasty

huh? it's not an exploit

u brought that word up

I think to exploit =/= to do an exploit

anyways doesnt cs:go has something liek "you were damaged by x people before you died" or sumsin like that

yeah but it doesn't fit teeworlds since you respawn so fast

lms

20:44

dont like it but just wanted to bring that ide aup

that's true, it could be specific to survival

Is it still possible in 0.7 to edit client info, like skin, name or team?

skin/team yeah, name kinda

what does kinda mean?

21:04

I mean serverside, oops*

21:04

So changing all of these using CPlayer::Snap() still works?

it's not part of the snapshot anymore. there're messages for that now

I assume a message like CL_SAY?

21:18

Or how to change the name? Can it be done by the server like using Snap, and/or can it be set by the client?

there's no message to change the name. can just be done with a fake disconnect/connect

But it can be done serverside?

yeah

How?

21:22

I mean, which variable is it?

21:22

And what do you mean by fake reconnect?

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L603

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thx

21:27

"And what do you mean by fake reconnect?"

21:29

@Dune why do you use the broadcast as racetime instead of the server timer (top center)

if you ant to change the name of player x for player y you have to send player y that x left (https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L701) and then connected with the new name (https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp#L603)

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Alright, and if I want to change it for myself?

how to do private messages in irc again? :c

you can't

xd

@fokkonaut: I don't do anything. I haven't written the race mod. Also, the server time is useful for other things and hard to overwrite (no protocol for that)

query

how can i use time_freq(9

21:32

is it one second?

Oy: can I change the name for myself?

21:32

Dune: Ah, okay

@fokkonaut: the server cannot change your own name

no you can't

Damn

Oy look query things for nasty nudes

time_freq should be 1 sec yeah

oh perfect

21:33

thanks

Oy, the server also cant detect if we change the name, right?

21:35

on client

no

Alright

21:35

Is clan changing possible?

21:36

I guess no.

no same as name

Well, I can understand why this has changed, but couldnt you just do that for Vanilla mods? (serverside)

"vanilla mods" xd

gametype*

what do u need it for?

changing names n vanilla was always fun and never a problem

It is cool to have in my opinion (probably just used to it)

nah, only saw people changing names to insult others

yes as i said only fun

xD

:P

Name changing shouldn't be so frequent that you need to do it in the middle of a game imho

but removing duplicated names has prio imo

true

Oh yes

21:39

Who even removed that?

git blame :)

me probably

And who thought it would be good to have no name? xD

we have id's

oy probably

Oy: almost sure it was someone else's pr

Even tho we have IDs, most players play with IDs off, so one can hide behind a bush

We can bring back forced IDs but I think most people would still rather play off

hdidn behind bushes is cool tho

21:40

but the chat is meh

Haha

hiding behind bush is a bit of a bad map gimmick

and also whisper

and if it's really a problem you can reenable IDs right

if i remember correctly, you cant chat as noname

besides you can have very short names like ` anyway

still hughe different

21:41

ce+

empty names are gonna be removed

:party:

think there's an issue for it

would be nice for the chat, but I don't think it changes much to the bush problem

In my opinion we should remove the IDs of the ingame nameplates and only show them in the board and chat

yeah https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2062

Empty nicknames · Issue #2062 · teeworlds/teeworlds

In v 0.7.2 it is possible to play with an empty nickname. An issue that existed before and was fixed before. #616 Speculation: The client appears to still have a nick validity check, but it doesn&a...

well dunno if you could see . so easily

wait is ids in debug menu a ddnet feature or got it removed in 0.7 ?

This is a serverside feauture, cant we bring it as a minor patch?

I think they're not allowed on 0.7.3 even

21:42

https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds/commit/94204f86d2d0d8e2cf71e394192148cf6ff333d1

21:42

there is already a patch for it

what does that do?

"prevent empty nicknames"

21:44

since 0.7.3

Dune: i think some more code was removed

ah, possible

So, do they get a name like (1)?

that was the old way right?

Yes

then it should be like that. looks ok

yes

Is it?

21:46

Or will it

https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds/blob/94204f86d2d0d8e2cf71e394192148cf6ff333d1/src/engine/server/server.cpp#L236-L246

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21:46

the function TrySetClientName will fail

21:46

so auto rename will trigger

https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds/blob/94204f86d2d0d8e2cf71e394192148cf6ff333d1/src/engine/server/server.cpp#L231

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21:47

So this prevent it?

21:47

(noname)

more like https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds/blob/94204f86d2d0d8e2cf71e394192148cf6ff333d1/src/engine/server/server.cpp#L198

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!*pName

!pName does not check for the first element, only if the pointer is non-null

https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds/blob/94204f86d2d0d8e2cf71e394192148cf6ff333d1/src/engine/server/server.cpp#L208

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21:49

then this looks wrong to me

how so?

because we dont rename to (1) if we dont have a name

if the string is empty, the first element will contain 0

21:49

we do

21:49

I showed you where we do that

Okay

TrySetClientName will return -1

21:50

which will trigger https://github.com/nheir/teeworlds/blob/94204f86d2d0d8e2cf71e394192148cf6ff333d1/src/engine/server/server.cpp#L241

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Ah yes

21:50

Sorry

21:50

Btw: 0.6 maps work on 0.7, right?

all hat set name code is gone

Yes, but they use different default mapres

Yup

they work yeah, might look funny

21:51

there's a script to convert the maps

But if a server supports the DDrace0.6 front layer, it should also work on 0.7 if the server implements that?

Yes

guess so

Thats good

21:51

Well, I guess I will move my mod to 0.7

21:52

And start a new life over here

21:52

0.6 is dead anyways and DDNet too

21:52

well, at least kind of and its not fun there anymore

is it related to ddos?

I player some time on 0.7 now and it reminds me of the good old 0.5 times

there's still the ddos thing in 0.6?

0.6 gets a lot of DDoS

21:52

Yea

oh ok

There was a 2week ddos just recently

21:53

the masters werent reachable

thought the 0.6 masters have been taken down

or maybe I am wrong, but it was multiple days

21:53

Uhm, not that I knew

21:54

https://status.tw/?p=status

ah ok

Wait, was it possible to change teams of players without fame reconnect?

21:56

fake*

there is already a protocol message for changing teams?

yeah

So if me as a server wants to put player1 in team blue

21:57

thatd work?

check what the rcon set_team commands does

nice, good

21:59

What is the player mode for?

21:59

ready*

during a match a player can press the unready button to pause the game

22:00

useful in clan wars etc

pause the game?

game is paused

cant that be abused

well, in public probably

So what is it for

but in clan matches, players don'T

is this activated in public?

don'

22:02

t think so

weird feature

really useful for non-public games

22:04

to have timeouts

?

players simulated it in the past

How would that work for timeouts

that's the timeout, game is paused

Also, in mods this can be used for a custom input I think?

22:05

So this can toggle something for example?

possible yeah

If I create a fork of teeworlds, and make a mod out of it, and later I want to merge some new commits, lets say 1 month, 30 commits later; How do i merge them in?

many ways

22:07

git pull origin master does it directly

22:07

if you have an up to date master branch you can also do git merge master

22:08

if you only want to merge one commit you can git cherry-pick

up to date master?

then you have to work on the mod not on master

22:08

in a seperate branch

mod should not be your master branch

Why?

plenty of reasons, merging patches from parent fork as master is one

flagball is a good example :)

So I create a new branch, work in it, and later merge the master?

22:10

But how to update the mod branch then?

see above

Can I also use the compare button on github?

22:12

If I work in master

for what purpose?

Wait, if I work on master I cant do pull requests right?