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Between 2019-02-20 00:00:00Z and 2019-02-21 00:00:00Z

[quakenet] <Dune> heinrich5991, do you have any opinion on implementing the InterfaceID as described in the comments there? https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/8e8e05c4f37670359b7b54a95a8b94285de4a7cc/src/engine/kernel.h#L26-L32

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[quakenet] <Dune> this would allow to have several elements of an interface, e.g. two m_pConsole, etc.

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[quakenet] <Dune> right now all interfaces have to register with an useless identifier, e.g. MACRO_INTERFACE("map", 0)

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[quakenet] <Dune> (of course, this could be worked around with an interface containing N sub-interfaces)

14:02

[quakenet] <Dune> I have no experience in OOP design so :)

[quakenet] <Dune> eh, I guess you need sub-interfaces either way :|

[quakenet] <day> today i realized teeworlds doesnt use the w and s buttons. and that theres no up and down :^)

20:07

[quakenet] <day> only took me 10years

20:12

[quakenet] <Dune> pfft, I realized that weeks ago when I made the hints. I had drawn a 3x2 grid for WASD :/

[quakenet] <day> haha

20:21

[quakenet] <day> i now have rail and nade on w and s

20:23

[quakenet] <Dune> I'm wondering if it would be any good to bind "+weapon4;+fire"

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[quakenet] <day> dont think so

20:24

[quakenet] <day> the problem is the shotty reload delay handling

20:24

[quakenet] <Dune> I don't see the problem

20:24

[quakenet] <day> if you do nade and then hit the +weaponX;+fire it wont fire it will only switch

20:24

[quakenet] <Dune> so what?

20:25

[quakenet] <Dune> that's expected behavior?

20:25

[quakenet] <day> then why add the +fire if it wont fire in most cases?

20:26

[quakenet] <Dune> well it should? do you hold down the fire key that often?

[quakenet] <rand> use w for jump !

20:50

[quakenet] <day> Dune: not sure what you mean, i never hold my fire key

20:50

[quakenet] <rand> s is for shotgun !

20:51

[quakenet] <day> switch to nade, click mouse1 once, instant switch to rail gun and shoot without waiting for the railgun to be equipped. 500ms later or so the railgun will 'spawn' but you wont shoot

20:52

[quakenet] <rand> do you fire before actual switching ?

20:52

[quakenet] <day> well thats what dune's binding would do, wouldnt it

20:52

[quakenet] <day> ?

20:52

[quakenet] <rand> (happen all the time for me bit I don't know if that's because i click before pressing switch key)

20:53

[quakenet] <day> and yes that behavior bugs me to no end. im a strong advocate for every weapon having its own cooldown

20:53

[quakenet] <rand> its binding says “change weapon; fire”

20:54

[quakenet] <day> well is it equivalent to 'change weapon && fire'?

20:54

[quakenet] <rand> i don't know

20:54

[quakenet] <day> or rather at the end of change weapon the weapon actually is changed*

20:54

[quakenet] <rand> I was expecting some sequential treatment

20:54

[quakenet] <rand> but, the input are sent simultaneously so…

20:55

[quakenet] <rand> I think the server does what you said

20:55

[quakenet] <day> well pressing '3' and 'shoot' is sequential. the command to switch the weapon came earlier, but the game doesnt actually swap the gun

20:55

[quakenet] <day> its just throwing the command into the weapon cooldown pipeline

20:55

[quakenet] <day> and the shoot command gets dumped

20:55

[quakenet] <rand> that right if you are in a cooldown

20:56

[quakenet] <rand> what happened if that is the first action in a while

20:56

[quakenet] <rand> *pens +?

20:56

[quakenet] <day> then it probably works

20:56

[quakenet] <day> lemme try. maybe it actually waits, that would be even worse :P

20:57

[quakenet] <rand> just tried, fire before switch

20:58

[quakenet] <day> yeah lol

20:58

[quakenet] <rand> iirc, fire is handled on tick, but weapon switch came after (some m_NextWeapon variable)

20:59

[quakenet] <day> would individual weapon cooldowns doable? or is there really just one global cooldown atm?

20:59

[quakenet] <day> be doable*

21:01

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> day: then you could all five weapons in quick succession

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[quakenet] <day> yeah thats what im after

21:01

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> that sounds too much balanced towrads bots and not humans

21:02

[quakenet] <day> bots will delete you anyways

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[quakenet] <minus> oh wow, 's' really is a free key in tw.

21:02

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> w, too

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[quakenet] <day> haha

21:02

[quakenet] <minus> does anyone actually use space for jumping?

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[quakenet] <day> so im not alone :D

21:02

[quakenet] <day> i do

21:03

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I use space

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[quakenet] <minus> hm

21:03

[quakenet] <minus> i played a lot of solday, so i use w

21:03

[quakenet] <minus> i use space to throw knife

21:04

[quakenet] <minus> hm, i wonder if teeworlds works on sway now

21:04

[quakenet] <minus> apparently pointer constraints has been implemented

21:04

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> what's that?

21:04

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> lifetimes in c++-speak? :)

21:04

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> oh

21:04

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> wayland stuff

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[quakenet] <minus> yes

21:06

[quakenet] <day> w nade, s shotgun is an evil combo

21:06

[quakenet] <minus> oh shit it actually works

21:06

[quakenet] <day> the server agrees. everyone left ^.^

21:06

[quakenet] <minus> 700 fps, nice

21:07

[quakenet] <day> which gpu?

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[quakenet] <minus> RX550

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[quakenet] <minus> aka The Only Viable Wayland GPU

21:07

[quakenet] <day> really?

21:07

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> why?

21:08

[quakenet] <minus> i mean you can get some Vega shit or GCN1

21:08

[quakenet] <minus> well, intel works too i guess

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[quakenet] <minus> and nvidia with nouveau

21:08

[quakenet] <minus> if you want that

21:08

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> other cards with similar names would work as well?

21:08

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> similar to yours I mean

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[quakenet] <day> ive to cap the fps otherwise my ears start to bleed due to all the coil whine :P

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[quakenet] <minus> there is other ones ofc, but if you're buying one for desktop usage that works with wayland, RX 550 is the cheapest one that's not old

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[quakenet] <minus> it's ~100€

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> does it work with games? probably not for 100€

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[quakenet] <heinrich5991> ?

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[quakenet] <minus> oh right, older AMD cards work just fine too, but those run on the radeon driver and don't do DP chaining, that was the issue there

21:10

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> DP?

21:10

[quakenet] <day> displayport

21:11

[quakenet] <minus> i don't game

21:11

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> teeworlds! :P

21:11

[quakenet] <minus> dunno if it runs CSGO or shit decently

21:11

[quakenet] <minus> well, teeworlds obviously runs on a potato (assuming said potato supports opengl)

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[quakenet] <day> i barely have 2000fps D:

21:11

[quakenet] <day> i can feel the stutter

21:12

[quakenet] <minus> oh, 1200 fps on ctf5

21:14

[quakenet] <day> im hoping the intel gpus next year are decent...

21:14

[quakenet] <minus> would be cool if AMD made the good ryzens with integrated graphics

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[quakenet] <day> always annoys me that intel puts gpus into theirs ;D

21:16

[quakenet] <day> feels like buying a cake and throwing half of it away

21:21

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> you mean intel cpus?

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[quakenet] <day> no gpus

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[quakenet] <day> they are releasing dedicated gpus in the very near future. apparently some features were already patched into their linux drivers recently :)

21:28

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> yea, also read that :)

[quakenet] <Dune> if every weapon had its own cool down you would have a ridiculous dps by shooting them all at once day

21:36

[quakenet] <day> yes i know

21:37

[quakenet] <day> but that would be balanceable by simply reducing the over damage output, but it would make the game feel more responsive

21:37

[quakenet] <day> the over damage output << what was I thinking when i wrote that o.o

21:39

[quakenet] <day> i mean i am pretty sure you can do this in quake, or am i mistaken?

21:40

[quakenet] <day> well there certainly is a switching animation that prevents insta combos

21:40

[quakenet] <heinrich5991> I bet only the cooldowns are lower or maybe the new weapon is shown instead of the old one when switching during cooldown

21:42

[quakenet] <day> In short: it is the same as always - all weapons have different reload time in order to make it fair. Before one can switch to the next weapon the reload time of the former weapon must be over.

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[quakenet] <day> fk

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[quakenet] <day> but anyhow as matricks always said. Teeworlds isn't quake! :D

[quakenet] <Dune> I think it would be a bit dumb to have to constantly rotate between weapons to optimize your dps

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