Teeworlds - development

Question about codestyle: Name for one-dimensional array: CMyClass aMyArray[x]; Name for one-dimensional array of pointers: CMyClass* apMyArray[x] But what about multi-dimensional arrays of pointers? Name for three-dimensional array of pointers: CMyClass* aaapMyArray[x][y][z] That looks ridiculous, doesn't it?

I think tw doesnt use multi dimensional arrays

10:12

You can use a simple array and access it like arr[y * width + x]

10:12

Iirc i think tw does that where 2d arrays are needed

10:12

Or maybe it was ddnet code idk

Would there be any real benefit? Or is it to overcome this naming convention?

10:14

Looks super cool, though.

Its simpler to allocate i guess but idk

hmm, k ty

@Slayer *gV*

src/game/client/components/binds.h
55:    char m_aaaKeyBindings[KEY_LAST][MODIFIER_COUNT][128];

11:12

so you'd call it aaapMyArray I guess

11:13

note that the * goes next to the variable name, not next to the type

@Ryozuki it does, there are three-dimensional arrays there :D

fokkonaut

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Issue closed: #1901 cant read first line of autoexec (probably other files too?)

Ty @heinrich5991 . Looks very weird, though.

I wrote that, it did feel weird

Another question: Is it possible to send localized messages from server to the clients? I guess not, at least I couldn't find any usage in the server-side source.

not for mods

I can not introduce new localized strings server-sided to the client. But it would be so cool to at least reuse existing localizations...

yep, not currently possible unfortunately

It would always be very limited though

13:23

imo server messages should never be attempted to be translated

13:24

there are no server messages anymore by default, it's all generated by the client

But there is no other way for server mods.

so if there is a server message, it's a mod or an admin => no reason to believe we would be able to translate it adequately with client strings

F. e. I want to send statistics about the current capture spots. Spot 1 -> Red Team Spot 2 -> Blue Team ... At least "Red Team" and "Blue Team" are localized and could be reused.

unless the server provides translations, client shouldn't attempt to localize server messages

This is probably a very limited usecase. Would be just nice to have for this particular case

otherwise you'll end up with a mash of localized strings and english strings, that's meh, better be all english imo

For complete sentences I do agree.

as long as you don't have ONLY extremely basic messages you don't want translations

13:26

mixing up languages is not good

See, "Red Team" is very basic

Yes, but that's not the only message you have

Whatever. Was just curious if there is a way (: Ty!

I do think that having translatable messages would be cool

But Dune is certainly right, that the server should be able to share localization information then, too. What might be quite some work to implement.

Client could send

13:43

"language" to server on connection

13:44

so, then server could generate message based on that variable

13:44

server already have Client name and Clan name, so it could have a Language as well.

13:46

I think, there's also possible to geolocalize players, but not everyone likes to have messages in their mother language. Or they are just in a foreign country for vacations.

Dune-jr

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Issue opened: #1903 Colored icons look really good in the server browser too

4k screenshot: !screenshot_2018-12-18_14-59-01

Dune-jr

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Pull request opened: #1904 Always use colorful gametype and level icons in the browser instead of grayscale

See #1903 proposal

:o

Dune-jr

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Issue opened: #1905 Compilation fails with irregular filenames with bam

I'm still not sure if it's on bam's side or on the Teeworlds configuration side: ``` [1/3] [3] copy datasrc/ui/gametypes/ictf).png -> build/x86_64/debug/data/ui/gametypes/ictf).png [2/3] [1] copy datasrc/ui/gametypes/idm).png -> build/x86_64/debug/data/ui/gametypes/idm).png [3/3] [6] copy datasrc/ui/gametypes/itdm).png -> build/x86_64/debug/data/ui/gametypes/itdm).png sh: 1: sh: 1: Syntax error: ")" unexpectedSyntax error: ")" unexpected sh: 1: Syntax error: ")" unexpected bam: 'copy...

Haha why would someone use fake multi dimensional arrays in C++ xd I used them in my bash game i think.

What's the problem with multi dimensional arrays? They represent certain structures of data well :)

ye i like multidimensional arrays my brains understands them better than the weird y * x + x thingy or how ever it was

they are used a lot

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atleast i remember

16:40

i dont know where tho

16:40

but its more common than you think xd (and its y * width + x) (edited)

ah, you asked why someone would not use them? when they have dynamic size, probably

what is the difference between width and x lol

x is a position, width is a size

so what is the amount of dimensions?

16:57

oh lol none of these? I am confused xxd

16:57

see thats why i prefer multiple []

oy

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Issue closed: #1887 Empty vote when joining a server

16:59

oy

[teeworlds:master] 1 new commit

9099a69 fixed empty vote when joining a server. closes ... - oy

Dune-jr

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Issue closed: #1905 Compilation fails with irregular filenames with bam

Dune-jr

[teeworlds/teeworlds] Issue opened: #1906 Default sv_inactive_kick to "send to spectators"

We have up to 64 slots now - far enough to make disappear the need to kick afkers.

About race mod. Im curious, if we can send motd to player? on command, with custom text

23:41

so, top races, could be displayed in motd, instead of chat.

yeah, it could afaik

that would be better, I guess

23:42

more space

23:42

no spam on chat

gonna try that

you are faster than me :D. I just started to make racemod, just for fun

23:43

but, if you just ported

23:43

maybe i will contribute

I did too :D

to your

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hahaha

haha

seems like everyone is :)

!

23:44

but, I just started to make Database interface, to work with multiple base types

already ported the race mod from 0.4 to 0.5 and 0.6

but it doesn't matter now

23:44

:DD!

23:44

I have few ideas, like a possibility to turn on spectator mod, without killing character

23:44

on longer maps, it will help

23:44

to understand map D:

yea could be useful

so like pause?

kind of

right now i'm implementing all the race features from 0.6

github repo?

could try some new thing later

23:47

didn't push it yet

the teerace features are tough to port

teerace can wait at least

i still need to implement the teleport layer and finish my sqlite backend

and I think alot of stuff redix wants to reimplement

yeah

cause might as well

23:48

since starting fresh

I wanted to ask, if you reimplement everything from scratch

I did the telelayer but the chat stuff is broken :p

lord had an idea how to implement the telelayer without a custom layer

oh :o

2 named layers

will there be speed tiles support too?

same for the speedup

what about grenade teleport :^)

23:49

jk

does not make a difference

what about the teleport kills ;D

teleport kills?

what, like, kill tiles with hitbox of tele?

what about movable platforsm! ?

23:51

hahaha

there used to be a feature that if you teleport on a tee, you kill it :p

lol wtf

oh that would be cool

cl_teleport_kill or so

23:51

it's in 0.6

in ddrace?

no, race

moving platforms not a fan cause it adds lag and prediction

and have to deal with cycles and stuff

23:51

just annoying

ehm, because they are hackyu on 0.6

they'll be just as hacky on 0.7 (edited)

ye

I know that, but 0.8

23:52

haha

need to make race the most compatible with vanilla client

to answer the question: i copied a lot of things... but i'm reimplementing some others like the scoring stuff and the custom layers

add a message for when someone else starts the race ty ;)

huh?

that's only useful for ghosts ^^

only useful for a feature Im doing in 0.6 xd

gonna do vanilla compatible things first

yes ofc

0.6 maps will be compatible with 0.7?

right now most race servers are bork if you join with vanilla I think

23:55

except tileset I think they are fine?

since most maps are broken anyway i'll write an update tool

ah nice

23:55

so like mapping old tileset pos to new tileset ones?

as i said... i'll prefer to implement the tele layer in a way that the vanilla client can handle

23:56

so i have to convert the old ones

23:57

oy already did something like this. but didn't work for all tilesets for me =\