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Between 2018-11-28 00:00:00Z and 2018-11-29 00:00:00Z
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ChillerDragon 2018-11-28 08:56:41Z
@David - SFM sorry for repeatig my self. But i never put any file into the other folder. If SDL is globally installed with brew all works fine out of the box if u freshly clone it. Do you use the homebrew package manager on mac?
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ChillerDragon 2018-11-28 09:13:56Z
Oy: i think the old storage is even worse because the $DATADIR is missing and the app is not working aswell [5bfe5c02][storage]: using standard paths [5bfe5c02][storage]: added path '$USERDIR' ('/Users/chillerdragon/Library/Application Support/Teeworlds') [5bfe5c02][storage]: added path '$CURRENTDIR' ('/Users/chillerdragon/Desktop') does irc even has the code format thing?
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No, @ChillerDragon. Don't use it here
09:38
And Oy is not here
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[quakenet] <Teeworlds> [teeworlds] Dune-jr opened pull request #1740: Fix some warnings (master...fix-warnings) https://git.io/fp2cr
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rand: wouldn't you prefer a scrollbar? just asking
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[quakenet] <rand> dunno, it sounds like the (second) easier UI solution
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[quakenet] <rand> I'm not sure it would be good for user experience
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The one you made without any tabs/scrollbars looks fine to me
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[quakenet] <rand> the last one ?
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[quakenet] <rand> I have to make something when there is 16 to 32 players and 33 to 48 players then
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[quakenet] <rand> the spectator part for the scoreboard can also be discussed
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[quakenet] <rand> I cropped it to 4 lines (as the original scoreboard) but I didn't add '…' to signal it
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[quakenet] <Teeworlds> [teeworlds] LordSk opened pull request #1741: Fixed broadcast not being shown when scoreboard/motd is active (master...fix/broadcast_scoreboard) https://git.io/fp2hB
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rand: "X other players" is cropped
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[quakenet] <Dune> heyy Landil :)
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[quakenet] <Landil> hej Dune
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[quakenet] <Dune> lil landils giving you a break?
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[quakenet] <Dune> :D
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[quakenet] <Landil> what's the next hot topic
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[quakenet] <Dune> severak
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Add a flag for ai-controlled players (client, server) so you can filter them within the server browser (similar to spectators). Updatet: visual indication missing (in the server browser and or ingame)
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[quakenet] <Dune> we need graphics to indicate bots
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[quakenet] <Landil> :rollingeyes: not really muhaawaaaah
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[quakenet] <Dune> oy proposed an antenna iirc
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[quakenet] <Dune> haha
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[quakenet] <Landil> maybe a robot skin?
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[quakenet] <Dune> ideally only a part
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[quakenet] <Dune> so they can still have custom skins :)
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[quakenet] <Dune> could be decoration
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[quakenet] <Dune> there's also this but you already discussed a while ago: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/1732
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[quakenet] <Landil> Dune ... step by step please
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[quakenet] <Landil> what's THE hottest topic I should have a look at?
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[quakenet] <Dune> hmmm
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[quakenet] <Dune> well we're sort of done with the necessary gfx for the release
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[quakenet] <Dune> there's UI design if you do that too
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[quakenet] <Dune> but no gfx necessary for 0.7.1
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[quakenet] <Landil> gimme some screenshots on which I can have a look at pls
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[quakenet] <Dune> mm
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[quakenet] <Dune> this is for the UI
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[quakenet] <Dune> we would kind of like to have the join/disconnect buttons more readily accessible
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[quakenet] <Dune> but the reset button is annoying =p
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[quakenet] <Landil> maybe one could use an "undo arrow" instead
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[quakenet] <Landil> hummmm
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[quakenet] <Landil> like ctrl+z in most applications
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that's a bunch of code
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I think reset is useful regardless
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sometimes you fuck up with the settings, right
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[quakenet] <Landil> something like this
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[quakenet] <Landil> but then this would be the only icon on the settings menu
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[quakenet] <Landil> I don
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[quakenet] <Landil> not like that
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[quakenet] <Landil> well I cannot think of a solution better than the given one
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[quakenet] <Landil> icon + button?
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[quakenet] <Dune> hmm
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[quakenet] <Dune> well there could be two layers of buttons
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Since when we need an icon for everything
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[quakenet] <Landil> @sonix the more icons the less translation
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[quakenet] <Landil> localisation is the worst feature ever
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[quakenet] <Landil> lessons learned
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also icons are cool
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[quakenet] <Landil> you can clearly see the advantage of an icon at this screenshot https://i.imgur.com/0ilCu38.png How do you want to make it clear that the reset is related to the settings and not the disconnect?
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[quakenet] <Dune> but then where would you put the icon? on every single line?
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[quakenet] <Landil> https://imgur.com/a/TNVyXuT
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what's the use of the icon then, if I may ask?
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[quakenet] <Landil> to make sure ppl understand that this is a reset settings button
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[quakenet] <Landil> https://imgur.com/2GGpD7J does not look that cool
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[quakenet] <Landil> but it is possible
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[quakenet] <Landil> besides I am not that happy with the buttons at the bottom
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[quakenet] <Landil> but I really like the new design :thumbs up:
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The buttons at the bottom are just bad
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any other solution to have a way to join/disconnect without moving the mouse everywhere on the screen? :/
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so put the buttons on top? I'd love it
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there is the "only x allowed" message there right now though
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[quakenet] <rand> I don't know how I assume things were done at some point
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don't put buttons back to the top pls :/
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I like this approuch here, but the icon should be simplefied https://imgur.com/2GGpD7J
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we already have a reset icon btw. it's included in the sidebar image .png
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I'd suggest to keep reset text but add the icon additionally inside current or even to the left of current extending by the size of 1:1
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@Zatline I don't understand why those buttons should be at the bottom
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it's awful for the accessibility
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21:18
the mouse travels everywhere for basic stuff
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I don't think so I'm pretty used to it from other games
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just a matter of getting used to
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take Battlefield games as exampl 3 & 4 in particular these games inspired me a lot I love the UI there ^^
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I don't know how these games are
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see u just not very used to it I guess
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[quakenet] <rand> hm
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[quakenet] <rand> I feel like Dune, choosing a game menu at top, then go down is a movement that was useless before
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[quakenet] <rand> maybe I will change my mind too
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[quakenet] <rand> can you change team while in a game in BattleField ?
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yes you could but they I think changed that with Battledield 1 and now Battlediel V I have not found the option there
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the thing is battlefield doesn't seem to have tabs
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here, in order to click join/disconnect, you first have to move your mouse to the upper side of the screen, click game, then move all the way down and click disconnect
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in bf u disconnect by going into the game menu so disconnect actually isn't there untill u hit esc first
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[quakenet] <Dune_> you understand the problem with teeworlds then?
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Damn gotta travel 10 days to reach the bottom with my slow ass sens 😁
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which kinda makes sense since when u want to leave / close an app u often hit escape to do so
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[quakenet] <Dune_> yeah but in teeworlds if you hit escape you may very well be somewhere in the menus
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well I don't want to have a bottem cluster at the top while on the bottem is nothing I tryied to structure the mene evenly and use all space available which gives it a very clean look
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and since I'm very used to deploy at the bottem I don't rly mind too much
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deploying at the bottom isn't a problem when you don't have to click somewhere on the top first
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deployment is part of the "game" menu not of the settings menu, so there is no need to have it shown while beeing in the settings menu
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but you understand the accessibility problem?
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that of disconnect yea but that's it and there is an easy solution to it
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and spectate?
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why would u want to hit spectate when u in the setting menu? again .. it's not part of settings and so you shouldn't be able to click it in the first place lol
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u don't go in the settings menu to spectate, you go in settings to change a setting
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[quakenet] <Dune_> yes, of course
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[quakenet] <Dune_> but a normal usecase would be Escape -> click a button to join/spectate/disconnect, right?
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yea that button is ESC when playing u always start in the game menu
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[quakenet] <Dune_> in teeworlds, this is not what happens when you press ESC
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[quakenet] <Dune_> you go to whatever menus you were in last
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if u then go into settings and close and hit esc again u reset at the game menu
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[quakenet] <rand> this should change at least
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[quakenet] <Dune_> yeah, rand
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@Zatline no? I don't think so at least
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if you go to settings, then close, then ESC, you go back to settings.
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that's the problem
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u should reset to game
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fix either and it's fine by me
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in 0.6 it does not reset to game and it is fine
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because the buttons are on top
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the idea of having the buttons permanently there is that you can have the "save position in settings" functionality + easy access of important functions
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but if we have to make it that Esc always sends to "Game" I'm fine with that too :)
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it should solve the confuision problem
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I myself are confused when going into settings hit esc ... play a bit then later want to disconnect and I suddenly in settings
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Right now, in-game, the Settings menu can be accessed as a second layer of the "pause"/ingame menus: Game ----<Esc>----> Ingame menus -> Settings menus In 0.7, in order to go ...
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[quakenet] <Dune_> this is the issue
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it's weird u should always land in game default
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yea we had that discussion already and I suggested waht I'm suggestung rn ^^ (edited)
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get rig of spectate, demo, joined buttons when being in setting they don't belong there, default esc to game and everything should be fine (edited)
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well there are two solutions to this problem
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