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General discussions or talks about KoG servers and KoG community can be made here. English only.

Between 2023-12-09 00:00:00Z and 2023-12-10 00:00:00Z

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qshar

7

im gonna fart so hard

@Avolicious it says "insance 4 star" on the event description

Definitely not esk

@Avolicious it says "insance 4 star" on the event description

Typo changed, thanks

Avolicious

Typo changed, thanks

always

Nice pic for the Christmas tournament

11:10

wao

Pic where

Ƥoi~son

Pic where

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Coople

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INSANE???

11:47

Why is there no /practice mode in KOG?

Pomid0rka

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i want to friend you

guys

12:45

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12:45

there ıs so many days but stıll lıke thıs

12:45

what should ı do?

12:46

start check mıgratıon a bas

aynısını dıyo

senın fotoyu attım zaten

bılıyom

@Gummibaer12345 can u help

12:51

@crack

12:53

@Moderator ping can someone look ?

Troxus

@Gummibaer12345 can u help

no, its automated

Gummibaer12345

no, its automated

what

Troxus

what

Automated. No one can do anything or speed it up, the process takes the time it needs to

Gummibaer12345

no, its automated

can u help me ?

13:08

check my tickets @Gummibaer12345

GEK

check my tickets @Gummibaer12345

they've got a lot of tickets, you'll get a respond eventually

ok

Pomid0rka

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vot takie pirogi

Gummibaer12345

no, its automated

Ghristmasbear

1

13:21

GdwT_i012

@Themix is there any way to do this part consistently?

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Bʟυɛ ♡

Automated. No one can do anything or speed it up, the process takes the time it needs to

so there is nothing to do right?

upp

1

13:40

@ryuma hello darling

Nothing but wait

yea yea

ryuma

@Themix is there any way to do this part consistently?

I've tried so many ways/techniques to do this part, but I just cant figure out a consistent technique to do it.

ryuma

I've tried so many ways/techniques to do this part, but I just cant figure out a consistent technique to do it.

go in lan and just do it over and over until it works

Definitely not esk

go in lan and just do it over and over until it works

I've been doing it over and over again for the last 50 minutes on kog server

ı thınk

13:42

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ryuma

I've been doing it over and over again for the last 50 minutes on kog server

but theres the extra effort of getting to that part to even try it

u need to hook that wall

in lan you can just teleport to it over and over

Troxus

u need to hook that wall

OH REALLY?!?!?!

13:42

FLUSH

13:42

who would've guessed

yea

13:43

u need to take your fast so much

13:43

or double jump only

13:43

you are welcome my love <3

ryuma

@Themix is there any way to do this part consistently?

What if you hook down right? So you "bounce" up. Or do you have enough speed to get frozen?

Bʟυɛ ♡

What if you hook down right? So you "bounce" up. Or do you have enough speed to get frozen?

I've tried that already, but its not working properly

🤷‍♂️

1

ryuma

I've tried that already, but its not working properly

hook the right wall bro smh

Ez part

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btw what mean poi

Become ranked and ill tell you

13:55

How do you become ranked?

Finish the map to get ranked (edited)

Hmmm

13:56

As long as its in t0

Definitely not esk

they've got a lot of tickets, you'll get a respond eventually

GEK — Сегодня, в 15:48 Is this the normal ?

GEK

GEK — Сегодня, в 15:48 Is this the normal ?

what

Ƥoi~son

As long as its in t0

Its the rank you get for finishing which is based on your time.

15:48

GEK

15:48

what do you mean

ryuma

Its the rank you get for finishing which is based on your time.

Ohhh

ryuma

Its the rank you get for finishing which is based on your time.

finishing what...

I wrote to the admin at 15:48, and now it's 16:58

GEK

I wrote to the admin at 15:48, and now it's 16:58

Its only 14:58 here, they have 1 hour till they receive ticket

GEK

I wrote to the admin at 15:48, and now it's 16:58

they've got a LOT of tickets, hundreds on hundreds, dont get your hopes too high xD

ok

13:59

xD

GEK

xD

when have you opened the ticket

yesterday at 23:41

pennycheng

using http

(async () => {
  const response = await fetch("https://kog.tw/api.php", {
    body: JSON.stringify({ type: "players", player: "JuKKi" }),
    method: "POST",
  });
  const body = await response.json();
  console.log(JSON.parse(body.data).points.TPoints);
})();

GEK

yesterday at 23:41

then it could take weeks sadly xD

I solve the issue of not having to wait by not opening a ticket

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14:03

finally the pain ends

ryuma

finally the pain ends

gg

ryuma

finally the pain ends

pain is good

ryuma

@Themix is there any way to do this part consistently?

Ask someone from top5 i guess

ryuma

@Themix is there any way to do this part consistently?

yes

ryuma

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gg

Krumplee

yes

gg

14:47

yes

HAPPY BIRTHDAY @Hawerer !!! feelsbirthdayman

feelsbirthdayman

feelsbirthdayman

2

i just finished map and i didnt get rank.

trollet

1

15:26

whats goin on

delete the game idk bro

Tommi

i just finished map and i didnt get rank.

Testserver=?

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hey

hey Floky.

hey

bro's not even hiding the hacks

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17:01

00:00 sec

‍♂️

mods, crush their skull

17:02

✊

Itz_Cemmie-

bro's not even hiding the hacks

There was a bug on this map that made it possible to get really fast finishes

gameskin of Chanploo?

kkZenko

gameskin of Chanploo?

https://www.skins.tw/asset/3640

Teeskins: Teeworlds Asset

Sharelink and detailview for "noesis_v6" (3640) by NOeSIS

thankssss S2

thankssss S3 when

chanploo?

chapoo

Chp

i hate when this happens

17:38

the funniest thing is that i’ve never had my game freezing every 10 seconds with 120 ping

17:38

today is not my day i guess

17:38

lol

today is the day

17:39

thats why oni and jinn species are trying to mess with your game.

17:40

I won't watch it again bro

ozurdılerım

thats why oni and jinn species are trying to mess with your game.

who?

oni and jinn species

17:41

i cant tell their exact clan name

who dat

i cant tell their name 3 times in a row.

but you can tell it one time, right? (edited)

dont ask more questions

17:43

they are onto me

what

SUSSY

ozur schizo moment pt. 230

am i being gaslit right now

https://mrgamingstreams.com/ppv-1/

17:44

King of the tble 9 stream

17:44

in 30 mn

17:44

free

17:44

stacked event

17:45

I typed it in general chatrom since its similar to King of gores name

ozurdılerım

I typed it in general chatrom since its similar to King of gores name

are u in your profile picture?

no its my wife

like wtf is wrong with this game

ozurdılerım

no its my wife

bro it would be your wifes profile picture

17:45

if it was ur wife

17:46

its your profile picture therefore accordid to my its you

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what did i do

17:46

to get blocked

17:46

by ozur

1

17:46

❓

17:48

is it real or am i going crazy

17:48

i cant tell already

Pomid0rka

is it real or am i going crazy

one moderator down

oh god

get blocked by them all

17:48

and you can say whatever you want bro

17:48

think the sigma way

bro imagine

❓

pomidorka gets blocked by everyone

17:48

excepot one person

17:48

whos blue

17:49

and then pomidorka runs over to blues house

17:49

to manually block him

17:49

but blue being aware of pomidorkas shenanigans

17:49

goes over to delete his discord account

17:49

but right that second

17:49

pomidorka breaks in

17:49

and starts fist fighting with blue to death

17:49

whoever wins

17:49

will have control of the account

autism is a hard disease

and whilst theyre fighting

17:49

pomidorka runs to hte computer

17:49

jumps and leans on

17:49

trying to click on the button to block himself

17:50

and then last second blue pulls him away

17:50

and goes to delete the accont

17:50

but then pomidorka presses on blues fingers on the block button

17:50

and blocks himself

17:50

which results in blue to evaporate out of this world

17:50

and for pomidorka to take on blues identitity

17:50

and then this process repeats for eternity

17:50

creating infinite universes with infinite blues and pomidorkas that turn into more blues

17:50

and then that confirms the

does that consider spamming

multiverse theory which results in diverse scientific progress

SUSSY

??consider??

causing our universe to become a type 2 alien society

considered*

whatever

pomidorka dont joke about that thing

and kog expands into the whole solar system

i’m not that good at english anyway

creating 0 ping servers for everyone

17:52

and then the whole kog playerbase

17:52

assembles in order to bring blue back

17:52

from the lost timelines

ozurdılerım

pomidorka dont joke about that thing

im not laughing ?

and everybody puts their hands together

17:52

and chant blues name

17:52

for him to appear in a hologram

17:52

and tell how his time waas in the shadow realm

17:52

watching all of us build and progress kog to its current level

17:52

then tells avo how proud hes of him

kog 4.0 the anime

and then

17:53

materializes himself

17:53

into the kog database

17:53

forever living in kog

17:53

and leaving clues throughout multiple maps to be found

17:53

and then the future generation of kog

17:53

discovers these clues

17:53

and finds traces them back to the ancient times of kog

17:53

which results in the discovery of the existence of qshar and blue

Pomid0rka

im not laughing ?

You said im gonna ***

17:54

dont type that

which awakens their soul due to them being remembered after years

dont do that

and then qshar and blue materialize out of nowhere

17:54

and start saying theyve all been watching us

17:54

find these clues and traces of them

17:54

and that we are destined to become kogs succesors

17:54

and with blue and qshars support

17:54

the kog community goes on to achieve great things

17:54

THE END.

move this to #offtopic

its kog related

17:55

Move this to #kog-rulebook

17:55

move this to #kog-history

dedicated to

17:57

blue qshar avo

17:58

and the kog community

why am i always a villain

Pomid0rka

why am i always a villain

bro

18:03

youre not the villian

18:03

youre the hero who started the

18:03

who built the

18:03

base of the storyline

18:03

in order for all of this to happen

best monologue

Definitely not esk

the kog community goes on to achieve great things

then the big multimillionaire company ddracenetwork blackmails kog with crack and dave knee pics

18:29

scrax

18:29

stop typing

18:29

thanks

18:29

18:30

i have deja vu

1

@Definitely not esk what did i just read

yep

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18:47

definitely not my day

what boredom does to mf

3

how do i stop forcing myself to do maps 100 times harder than i can beat (edited)

get better

(still thinks his achievements aren’t worthy enough to be in highlights channel) (edited)

your achievements are the highlight of my day

(edited)

2

?

Poesie

curious, how many different players do you guys think play teeworlds a day?

About 5k maybe

19:43

Couting chinese at night maybe 99 k

Pomid0rka

(still thinks his achievements aren’t worthy enough to be in highlights channel) (edited)

we all start somewhere man go for it

ryuma

https://www.skins.tw/asset/3640

It is particle

20:16

from chpo (edited)

chpo

kkZenko

from chpo (edited)

HAHAHAAH

?

feelsamazingman

1

20:18

I DON'T INDICATE GRACE

20:19

it is particle from chanploo

kkZenko

it is particle from chanploo

M M M M M

20:20

NOT N

what do you mean not?

catDespair

1

20:21

it does not have?

nothing bro

20:21

all good

20:21

go to sleep

it's not even late

20:23

@ryuma it is particle from chanploo?

gameskin that champloo uses (edited)

not the particle

20:28

Do you know what its part is?

You want champloo his particles?

I wanted to use his particle because I cost a lot of it and the particle is mass

no idea

Hi

20:32

How do I register to play?

nickname

How do I register to play?

#kog-history

20:33

read all the stuff here

#registration

then you will take the registration exam

ryuma

gameskin that champloo uses (edited)

Do you have it?

ryuma

https://www.skins.tw/asset/3640

.

I don't understand what's next... "Account pre-claimed, create a ticket on discord!"

#registration

20:38

read

@nickname watching the video would help quite a bit

51.83.131.203:8303

20:46

definitely not cheating

20:46

:clueless:

20:48

deserved

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dasdasdadada

20:48

bro h looks so cute

20:48

trying to bot his way out of the 2 tiler

20:48

and still fails

fr

pomid

20:51

do you want

20:51

kogspammeme

20:51

permissions

20:51

so u can post it in right channel

20:51

@Pomid0rka

uhh

20:51

idk

20:52

why not i guess

i changed my mind

20:56

after you said idk

20:56

@ryuma he wants kog-spam-meme permissions

20:56

i think

ok

20:58

and what am i supposed to say or do now?

What

ozurdılerım

do you want

well if my memes are actually funny enough to post them in kogspammeme then sure

ryuma

and what am i supposed to say or do now?

make him a mod

@ryuma why do you have chacter from limbo in your profile picture

21:09

character*

Lekson

make him a mod

❓

21:11

im 16 lol

21:11

too young to be one

blue is 13

21:15

never too young.

oh

blue is just the right age...

21:19

to be working in a coal mine for 20 hours a day

1

21:19

little narc he is he deserves that

Zukki

21:34

You're trash

ozurdılerım

blue is 13

Huh?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342003344476471296/1124341252305993779/intro_your_name_Free.mp4?ex=658598e3&is=657323e3&hm=887e1a39c6c2bab274374962713ce89d4d950379e6ae226c28822d71d42addef&

ozurdılerım

blue is 13

Bruh you're 17, wdym!

21:49

You're the baby here

im 4 years older

21:50

than you little ant

ozurdılerım

blue is 13

Double this and you're getting close

3️⃣

1

7️⃣

1

1

1

Nika

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/342003344476471296/1124341252305993779/intro_your_name_Free.mp4?ex=658598e3&is=657323e3&hm=887e1a39c6c2bab274374962713ce89d4d950379e6ae226c28822d71d42addef&

is that you in your profile picture

ozurdılerım

is that you in your profile picture

YES.

21:54

@ozurdılerımand is that you in your profile picture?

no

just had a 20 minute long debate with a guy about his toxic behavior and it was actually fun destroying him with facts while he couldn't say anything worthy of respect

ozurdılerım

no

Pomid0rka

just had a 20 minute long debate with a guy about his toxic behavior and it was actually fun destroying him with facts while he couldn't say anything worthy of respect

Yeah wrong community to brag about this

22:06

You're making enemies

i don't care

22:06

he didn't care too (edited)

I mean I agree, I enjoy those conversations too, occasionally

22:07

But I'm also incredibly memed for it here

22:07

Mixi have a couple of stickers I believe

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I'd not be suprised if a good amount of this community are chat-banned in League, or already have a banned acccout

i got banned for 14 days

Pomid0rka

just had a 20 minute long debate with a guy about his toxic behavior and it was actually fun destroying him with facts while he couldn't say anything worthy of respect

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i got permabanned 4 times

1

22:09

in league

and 2 chat ban

Pomid0rka

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it went well, kkkttt got banned from the server (edited)

ozurdılerım

i got permabanned 4 times

kek

I've never had any bans/restrictions in League

i got banned for racism oele

oele

sigma

1

Honor 5 every season I played

Pomid0rka

it went well, kkkttt got banned from the server (edited)

and he plead guilty for his actions

22:11

so we cool

Dude should've lawyered up

Bʟυɛ ♡

Honor 5 every season I played

nah for me its 0 for every season

Rule nr. 1: NEVER say anything before your lawyer arrives

! filop

nah for me its 0 for every season

Probably skill issue (edited)

feelsstrangeman

i'd probably make a good moderator out of myself

People honor for skills or good mental

who knows

feelspepoman

:))))

If you have 0 honor, you got neither

22:12

No skill and ur toxic... damn bro

Bʟυɛ ♡

No skill and ur toxic... damn bro

im not toxic

is racism not toxic for you

oele

! filop

i got banned for racism oele

oele

^ You sure buddy

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Filop after each chatban:

22:15

i played new game mode today (edited)

22:15

and i can speak

22:16

New mod?

imagine voice chat in ddnet

22:16

that'd be funny

xDD

22:16

that would be so good

and pretty useful since it's not comfortable to type while one tiling (or whatever you call it, i'm still not good at kog terminology) (edited)

Pomid0rka

imagine voice chat in ddnet

I'd be spreedrunning main maps in team 0, screaming at people as I'm chasing them down, scaring all the kids pepewithteddy

pepewithteddy

Aware

4

22:17

AAAAAAAH!!!

Bʟυɛ ♡

I'd be spreedrunning main maps in team 0, screaming at people as I'm chasing them down, scaring all the kids pepewithteddy

pepewithteddy

BLEHHHH

22:17

so silly :3

shhhh

Bʟυɛ ♡

New mod?

Arena

let it sink in

Otherwise I'd just be laughing or caught singing along to my music (edited)

same goes with anything

But it'd be fun hearing people absolutely lose their minds in big team 0's

When team leader update

Bʟυɛ ♡

Otherwise I'd just be laughing or caught singing along to my music (edited)

there's nothing wrong about someone enjoying their time

best maps are maps with grenade launcher on spawn, I always take it and block everyone and then get kicked

🤦‍♂️

1

feelsthinking

1

why not just shoot around at the spawn

22:20

more annoying but no obvious reason to ban you

22:20

since you are technically not blocking anyone on purpose (edited)

Mixi wants to get banned just to argue with staff about the logic behind it

Mixi

best maps are maps with grenade launcher on spawn, I always take it and block everyone and then get kicked

Best map is any non mixi map cause you can boat ❤️

fake news

22:21

I never complained about deserved ban

I suffered it first hand, but Mixi suffered from my impeccable logic and unstoppable mental strength

Mixi

I never complained about deserved ban

The nword ban?

1

my point is still valid there

Disagree

and I wont argue

22:21

with you

I know

22:22

At least you're smart enough to not pick fights you know you'll lose gigachad

gigachad

better come test our new map

1

You people wont even ban this dude who literally kickvoted me and an other guy cause we didnt go back two rooms to save him.

22:22

Gameplay toxicity > Nword toxicity

Oenis

You people wont even ban this dude who literally kickvoted me and an other guy cause we didnt go back two rooms to save him.

I have... absolutely no idea what you're talking about

my ticket

Bʟυɛ ♡

At least you're smart enough to not pick fights you know you'll lose gigachad

gigachad

if he do he can get timeout

Oenis

You people wont even ban this dude who literally kickvoted me and an other guy cause we didnt go back two rooms to save him.

You just created a new meme, which is great

22:23

parts = rooms maps = cards

! filop

if he do he can get timeout

Nah, I don't mind conversations. As long as they're not overly hostile or just run in circles

what are you waiting for seriously though? either close the ticket and ban him or close the ticket and dont ban him

I've been a part of most major discussions last year or so

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22:24

i see emojis like this

22:25

Why

2 of my permeabans was from cheating tho

22:25

so 2 of them doensnt count

3rd one is hopefully awaiting soon

ozurdılerım

2 of my permeabans was from cheating tho

i used reksai sc and didnt get any ban

ryuma

3rd one is hopefully awaiting soon

nuh uh

! filop

i used reksai sc and didnt get any ban

its not a sc its a game bug

What ever happend to Jukki anyway did you guys unban him finally?

Oenis

What ever happend to Jukki anyway did you guys unban him finally?

still in progress.

ehh

22:25

No

zzzz

no information

POLICE STATE!

22:26

I Knew it

22:26

Free JUkki

@Meep6

! filop

Why

Idk, forced dark mode bugging out colors maybe? (edited)

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22:26

seriously that something is in progress for months is a bit bad people

ozurdılerım

2 of my permeabans was from cheating tho

Cheating is toxic too imo

ozurdılerım

still in progress.

what happened to jukki?

Maybe dont have so many [A]Servers and you wouldnt be inindated with registration requests all the time

@MEE6 Hello, Is bawki a real bear?, Is coople the most wholesome player of all time?, is blue a little ant? (he is)

Pomid0rka

what happened to jukki?

he got banned for botting

ozurdılerım

@MEE6 Hello, Is bawki a real bear?, Is coople the most wholesome player of all time?, is blue a little ant? (he is)

Ah, greetings, noble interlocutor! As for your inquiries, I must regrettably inform you that Bawki, to my knowledge, is not a real bear. Alas, it seems that Bawki resides solely within the realm of imagination and whimsy. As for Coople, the purportedly most wholesome player of all time, I cannot definitively proclaim such a title without proper evidence and thorough investigation. Lastly, while it may be true that Blue is a diminutive ant in stature, his significance in the grand tapestry of the insect world should not be underestimated. MEE6 is not responsible for the accuracy of the AI-responses provided, whether related to MEE6 or not This message will not be displayed with your own custom bot

Now youve cut down the normal servers to 3, its sad

agreed.

! filop

he got banned for botting

ohhh

Oenis

seriously that something is in progress for months is a bit bad people

Difference with "in progress" and low priority

22:27

But I agree, should've been done sooner

not sure for botting

22:28

But he got banned

22:28

idk

But we couldn't, so

‍♂️

My ticket has been open for 10 days too, but yeah keep pushing something that just takes up all your time and that nobody asked for ;D

did he changed after that?

Oenis

My ticket has been open for 10 days too, but yeah keep pushing something that just takes up all your time and that nobody asked for ;D

blue will look in 10sec

@Coople hello you are looking extra cute today

‍♂️

22:28

time to dip this convo

:ooooo

22:28

yellowfLOOOOOOOSHED

Oenis

My ticket has been open for 10 days too, but yeah keep pushing something that just takes up all your time and that nobody asked for ;D

Reports take much longer because we are overflowed by registration tickets, still. But, when that slows down, tickets will br answered within a couple of hours

Couple of years

thats my whole point.

not too much

@ozurdılerım can you give me access to a meme channel

22:30

i changed my mind

Jukki isn't banned, btw

ALso its been going on for months now. I dont know why or how you bother .

22:30

He isnt? O.O So he's like on bail while awaiting verdict?

Seems the game growth was grossly underrestimated

Pomid0rka

@ozurdılerım can you give me access to a meme channel

i dont have permission to edit kog spam meme channel

22:30

ask blue

Bʟυɛ ♡

Jukki isn't banned, btw

Why he cant migrate

So open up more non [A] Server? Jesus christ you have 50 servers sitting at 0 players

22:31

and 3 servers non [A] sitting at full all the time

ozurdılerım

i dont have permission to edit kog spam meme channel

oh

What is this, really?

Oenis

He isnt? O.O So he's like on bail while awaiting verdict?

Yeah, kinda

22:31

On "probation"

its a waste of peoples donations

He can't leave the country while on trial, kind of situation

thats what it is

22:31

and your time

I think you misunderstood

The point is for everyone to migrate

22:32

Those serverd have almost no issues, no rule breaking etc.

22:32

Almost all "serious" runs are made there

Of ourse you want to "nudge" aka force everyone down a path, but its obviously bringing too much of a workload on you, and there will always be a need for non regged servers for new players.

22:33

You have capacity sitting sine you have 50 non occupied servers

Well, automation is coming (edited)

22:33

And having more servers as non [A] will promote less migration

makes sense

Literally forcing people to do things they dont want to by excluding their ability to play the game while choking your own ability to handle reg requests and thus all other tickets

22:34

AND wasting peoples donations on servers not being used

22:34

Its so disgusting if I had the time (and I have the money) id open up competition

I mean, logging in to play a game isn't a major ask... (edited)

its been months and you still havent migrated people, but yeah, lets hope that automation thing comes up soon I guess. You choked your own tournament

22:35

cause youre too busy with this

22:36

Tournaments are what people want

22:36

NObody wants this

22:36

But keep forcing people, they will have no choice, I know, so it will "succeed"

And people donate to KoG, what we do with that is up to us. They obviously trust us with their money, so they donate to us and we make the decisions we do, that previously gained their trust, with that money

"its been months and you still havent migrated people"

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i also wanted to ask, @Bʟυɛ ♡ can you please give me access to kog-spam-meme when you have time? (edited)

And saying "Nobody wants this" is just untrue

You sit on a legacy of prior administrators, players and users and the coders of DDNET/Teeworlds. Its so fkn arrogant to say "what we do with the donations is up to us"

Maybe no one was specifically asking for an account system

Fkin sitting on 50 servers bleeding peoples money

But people were CONSTANTLY asking to "Ban botters" "Stop DDoS" "Funvoters" etc.

22:37

This is the way to stop it

22:37

Old system didn't work

22:37

New system does

How does the new system stop ddosing lol?

Bʟυɛ ♡

But people were CONSTANTLY asking to "Ban botters" "Stop DDoS" "Funvoters" etc.

can you check dm (edited)

It doesn't stop it, but there are ways to makr it harder, with that system

Who cried about botters all the time? Botters were easily dealt with.

Nope

22:38

Not at all

I experienced like 1 botter a week

22:38

when I played actively

That's why people get stuck in migration, they could've been botting for years. And no one knew

22:39

Because it was either hard to see, or very easy to just fake name and avoid bans

still, it affected me only marginally. The only issue people in general cared about of those was the ddosing

22:40

and thats barely affected

Last few months

"jinn"

Okay, then

there were tons o fbotters

22:40

Taking every single rank1

22:40

and destorying top5 competition

"No one cares" or "No one wants"

22:40

Speak for yourself if it's your opinion (edited)

top5 affects like 0.01% of teh population

no

22:40

top5 affects everyone

You could have easily had [A] Servers for that part of the game

Sticker

most people play the game for competition

Top5 affects everyone who checks /top5 command

lol?

if competition is destroyed by botters and bring it to the dirt

Mixi

Click to see original message

At this point I feel like Ondis here should have this

most peopel would not play the game

95% of players play Team 0

and %95 of players are aiming to get better

I swear to god your making stuff up. 95% of games are Team 0

Mixi

Click to see original message

@Bʟυɛ ♡ ah, so that's what you were talking about

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%95 of players are trying to reach higher skill levels

22:42

%95 of players watches pros and tries to become like them

22:42

no one wants to play in main team 0 all day

22:42

botting was an issue

ITs like the delusion of trying to reach the top of the pyramid in a capitalist society, we dont mold society to fit the 1% or 0.1% And in this case they could have had their [A] competitive servers/Scene

22:42

without it being forced on everyone

22:42

95% of players do play Team 0 all day

Just think about syre

22:42

11Min solo

50% of the reamining 5% play team with their friends

well that %95 stat is completely wrong

Sticker

but i wouldnt be playing this game

22:43

if i wasnt aiming to get better

22:43

becoming rank1

Well, we want to make the community bettter for everyone not just 0.1%

Im making this community better for over 8 years now...

Aware

1

^

mixi you started kog 2022

22:44

what are you talkinga out

shh

You banned someone like mixi who contributes to the game in terms of maps and leaderboards as well its hilarious

Bʟυɛ ♡

Well, we want to make the community bettter for everyone not just 0.1%

why spectators can use vote for f3 or f4 (edited)

Oenis

You banned someone like mixi who contributes to the game in terms of maps and leaderboards as well its hilarious

unrelated

Creating a safe and decent environment where rules are being followed and we can acutally enforce it felt important

For you. Not for anyone else.

22:45

Thats why you never had a vote on it

You might not care about it or seem like it's a problem

22:45

Bur you are 1 person

if mixi ddoses servers all day , it affects everyone

22:45

and mixi should get banned

1

We see everything

Oh man I swear to god had you put it to vote before you "nudged" everyone into [A] whether they wanted it or not

22:46

you would have lost

keep fighting

22:46

our AI called Blue will never run out of stamina

Oenis

Oh man I swear to god had you put it to vote before you "nudged" everyone into [A] whether they wanted it or not

it is how it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

gaywerer

transferin to A servers might be a tedious task

Your opinion and experience speaks less of the community than those who have been players and also staff members who have seen both sides

but its a necessary one

ryuma

our AI called Blue will never run out of stamina

blueGPT will win.

upp

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Cause you took ownership of something that was never yours to own avo, yeah.

Avolicious

it is how it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sticker

At least in DDNET 1.75 you wont have your privleged positio nanymore

Oenis

Cause you took ownership of something that was never yours to own avo, yeah.

I dont "took" ownership

Oenis

Cause you took ownership of something that was never yours to own avo, yeah.

So someone can start ocmpeting agains tyou

Don't make me go on PC to actually start yapping

Go for the competition, please

22:47

Teeworlds is a small game, it basically lives because of contributions

22:47

If no-one would contribute, the game would be dead

22:47

not being played nor hosted anymore

I'm on phone now so I'm writing in slow mode

sadge

1

1

Unless you start DDOS:ing my servers out of spite, a server where things are taken based on community consensus and where everyone otherwise is welcome, will outgrow yours. People like to mess around, sometimes say something nasty, people make amends and forget about it later.

Wow, so you assume I am ddosing others?

22:48

GGs

No

22:49

Im saying if you dont

22:49

havent done it so far

#Admin-chatroom -> #DDOS-LOG

but there is no competition

if you know you know

cause you have your private KOG tab for all gores, so nobody can compete

Oenis

but there is no competition

gcl

People like to mess around, sometimes say something nasty, people make amends and forget about it later.

Do this in your private chats

soon?

22:49

but its not rly gores

Oenis

cause you have your private KOG tab for all gores, so nobody can compete

I see, you are not updated

People did this on here before you took over

Latest ddnet change -> DDNet and KoG tabs are removed

I know

22:50

I just said it

In 1.75

So whats the problem now?

There is no problem per se

1

Good

DDNet and KoG are flooding the servers lists because they are so massive

Except that imo you didnt have th right to take quasi-ownership of KoG the way you did with your ToS

22:50

but thats beyond the point

Oenis

Except that imo you didnt have th right to take quasi-ownership of KoG the way you did with your ToS

?????

22:50

WTF, we can do whatever we want to

Okay now I'm royally confused

We could shutdown the whole network if we want to

22:51

He's talking about "ownership" and "terms of service"

You can shut it down, you cant take ownership of it the way you did. This has already been discussed. In fact id love you to take me to court and see how well your mumbojumbo holds up if I start "using" stuff you "Own"

22:51

thats based on the license of free distribution backwards

xDDDD

you know it bby

Hahahahahahahahaha

Mate

it would be fun

He spent so much money on lawyers

It will be indeed

mixi what is your problem with flags

You think he'd lose that?

Oh you actually would do that eh,

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You took so much work that was based on communal contributions

! filop

mixi what is your problem with flags

and whats ur problem

1

22:53

Mixi

and whats ur problem

idk

and platered your crappy fkin dime a dozen ToS over it

SchizoCat

its insulting to the generations before you

He spent over 20k Euro (from own wallet) on KoG to keep servers alive and also on lawyers to make sure it is all done legally and all that

thats based on the license of free distribution backwards

(edited)

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And you think you would win?

Well he probably would need to spend a lot less if he didn't keep 50 servers at 0 capacity to nudge people into something they didnt ask for?

20k eh thats alot

The DDNet license allows us to do so

22:54

Change the license

feelswowman

gigachad

1

Oenis

Well he probably would need to spend a lot less if he didn't keep 50 servers at 0 capacity to nudge people into something they didnt ask for?

Huh, that was before account system

Original license says all derivative works must be free as well.

The Teeworlds license allows ddnet to do so

22:54

0.7 might be, but we are on 0.6

DDnet never takes ownership of anything

22:54

you do

That's from "April fools" before this took place

Sue me Avo, sue me. I want to see it happen. You think people like what your doing?

22:55

You think nobody is watching?

22:55

People have just moved on

Why should I sue you? For what reason?

Honestly, Achul. At this point you're just angry to be angry. Nothing you say really makes sense right now.

Do you know why people sue others?

why do i feel like this is going too far

Well apparently you said you would earlier, if I went against the notion of you owning the derivative work

Thats the Teeworlds 0.6 license: https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/ff254722a2683867fcb3e67569ffd36226c4bc62/license.txt

Pomid0rka

why do i feel like this is going too far

it is

1. **The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software in a product, an acknowledgment in the product documentation would be appreciated but is not required.** 2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be misrepresented as being the original software. 3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any source distribution.

(edited)

0.7 builds on 0.6 you cant break the license of 0.6 for 0.7

22:57

Its a chain

Wrong

22:57

You cant change the license out of a sudden just because you like it that way

22:57

Give it a proper license beforehand and upgrade it afterwards

22:57

but we dont use 0.7 so we are not bound to any 0.7 licensing

Thats what im saying, you cant go claiming that the license changed between 0.6 and 0.7 (which Im just giving you the benefit of the doubt here)

22:58

You use work made by prior programmers and designers that worked under a free license

22:58

WHY would you even try to claim ownership of this? Why even do it?

when will this over

Sure, but thats what the license allows me xD

22:58

I dont claim ownership

22:58

nowhere

WHy do you have to be the ~a.s.s.~ that messes with an open source project?

Embedded image

"KoG" claims ownership

is based on DDNet

Oenis

Thats what im saying, you cant go claiming that the license changed between 0.6 and 0.7 (which Im just giving you the benefit of the doubt here)

I thought you were annoyed by Account system?

Bro this guy always appear in 3 months periods just to be proven wrong

7

We give proper credits

Where is this going?

No, DDnet license is not like this. Speak to Dennis. Fk your Credits. DDnet license is "free to use our work"

Bʟυɛ ♡

I thought you were annoyed by Account system?

No, he is annoyed because he is trying to get KoG open source for years

Krumplee

Bro this guy always appear in 3 months periods just to be proven wrong

He needs a longer time skip arc

Krumplee

Bro this guy always appear in 3 months periods just to be proven wrong

It's more yapping than I can keep up with on phone

DDNet license: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/license.txt

Teeworlds Copyright (C) 2007-2014 Magnus Auvinen DDRace Copyright (C) 2010-2011 Shereef Marzouk DDNet Copyright (C) 2013-2022 Dennis Felsing This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied warranty. In no event will the authors be held liable for any damages arising from the use of this software. Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose, including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it freely, subject to the following restrictions: 1. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented; you must not claim that you wrote the original software. If you use this software in a product, an acknowledgment in the product documentation would be appreciated but is not required. 2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be misrepresented as being the original software. 3. This notice may not be removed or altered from any source distribution. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ All content under 'data' except the assets, font, language & skin files, (which have their own licenses) are released under CC-BY-SA 3.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/).

I feel like Achul is my other personality

kek

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"Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any purpose, including commercial applications, and to alter it and redistribute it freely, subject to the following restrictions:"

23:00

WHy do you fk with this?

23:00

WHy do you claim ownership? "through KoG"

Mixi

I feel like Achul is my other personality

smurf

and try to break the chain of free software?

Acc

fkin spitting on the work of others

"Permission is granted to alter and redistribute"

Huh?

if the others cared they would have used GPL

without which ou wouldnt have KoG

IsaacElenbaas

if the others cared they would have used GPL

AGPL would be better in this case

It isnt oblying you to redistribute or modded version of Ddnet open source

I know it isn't fk

23:02

Teeworlds does that -> DDNet (Whose license is not completely correct either)-> KoG (that never had a license) until Avo here came

23:02

and started claiming ownership

Wouldn't you think DDNet would stop KoG if there was actual issues? @Oenis

of something that was never his

So "who" owns KoG?

23:02

Tell me then

Bʟυɛ ♡

It's more yapping than I can keep up with on phone

Its very scary that its true

I've already spoken to Dennis and them about it, they abhor what Avo is doing but they don't care about Gores and are busy with their lives.

23:02

Nobody, nobody owns it

23:02

Its free software

23:03

You own at most your "koG" trademark

23:03

and your icons

23:03

and website

23:03

etc

23:03

So whats the problem now?

23:03

We claim to own KoG

23:03

the logos, the texts and icons

He's claiming KoG not the game

You claim to own the freakin derivative work according to the license. Like the innovations to the code. Youre technically preparing for a split

KoG is allowed to be hosted on the gsme

taht a small open source community cant/wont defend against

23:04

Not that you will do that

23:04

but you could that and if nobody challenges you in court

23:04

you could get away with it

23:04

and that would be a real ass move

23:04

and you know it

Okay, if you say so

and these fanboys around you dont

It has to be right

Well... why don't you challenge him?

"Permission is granted to alter and redistribute"

Bʟυɛ ♡

Well... why don't you challenge him?

Because he would instantly lose

23:04

And he knows that

with that u just shut ur self up xd

Lol.

He thinks that our Terms of Service applys to source code

Giving permission isnt oblying xd

You certainly make no distinction

23:06

and claim ownership of everything

I claim ownership of this world now

23:06

Whoopsie

Blue, youre such a kiss-ass you know that right?

Everyone has to log in before they wake up

avo is the president of earth now

guys

23:07

can we perma this dude?

@Oenis You know that KoG just put a few servers on this so called "free software" so the game can be played right?

elnoid

can we perma this dude?

its my friend pls no...

Unlike you and me Pomidokra, this guy apparently spent 20k for some lawyer to write his ToS

elnoid

can we perma this dude?

Well, technically there is nothing wrong at this point. He does not act against our Terms of Service nor our ruleset

so he is taking it more seriously than any of us

Discussing is allowed, but it seems hopeless in regards of telling us to go open source

23:08

Because we "dont care about open source"

23:08

Which isnt true

So amend your freakin ToS

23:08

to exclude maps, code, etc.

Bʟυɛ ♡

Everyone has to log in before they wake up

nooo

Pomid0rka

imagine voice chat in ddnet

Ive been wishing this forever

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And make it explicit

23:08

do it

elnoid

can we perma this dude?

uh ih ma uh ah uh ih ma uh ih

Ye

Oenis

Unlike you and me Pomidokra, this guy apparently spent 20k for some lawyer to write his ToS

Not only that, ofcourse. But shouldnt this be enough to tell you that you're probably wrong and he k ows what he's doing?

Add voice chat for teams

and I wont even complain about your "nudging" and bleeding of peoples donations and your mod teams effort and time for this much overdue and badly planned registration effort

Oenis

Its so disgusting if I had the time (and I have the money) id open up competition

That might be the reason why he wants KoG to go open source. SUSSY

SUSSY

Imagine moderating the voice chats

23:09

Ni

kek

1

g

feelsthinkingman

1

Ni hao

ninjago

Wave

Oenis

and I wont even complain about your "nudging" and bleeding of peoples donations and your mod teams effort and time for this much overdue and badly planned registration effort

Donations arent needed to play, its still and will be free to play

23:10

I dont even ask on discord nor on the website

Donations are being put forth towards 50+ Empty servers to force people to register

BUT ITS MY MONEY

23:10

Get it

Its not your money only

It is

Okay, thats true

Its dozens upon dozens of people donating

there are some donations

as well

If they donate, to him, it's his

1

What his?!

@Bʟυɛ ♡ problem fixed already but thanks

3

As you can see on the right side, we do have a lot of servers, so we do have monthly costs. If you wanna help us paying our servers to keep them online & free to play, any donations are appreciated! DISCLAIMER Donators dont get any extras on our servers, nor any special support! If you'd liked to be mentioned, please write into the donation

Even Avo doesnt claim the project isnt his? What the fk are you on about BLue

23:11

Even Avo isnt that arrogant

23:11

Holy sht youre such a sycophant

I'm just declaring the definition of a donation

He's right, technically its Hawerers money xD

Even Avo doesnt own KoG, KoG is a community based organization

Oenis

Even Avo doesnt own KoG, KoG is a community based organization

Wrong

Donating is LITERALLY giving your money to someome else, and then it theirs

KoG is not a legal entity

Also Avo, stop dodging the question, will you change your tos to reflect that its not the sauce and maps that it afects?

if its hawerer I can donate all my savings

So, after you donated, you can't really say much (edited)

Maps are affected by the ToS, thats correct

I said KoG is a commnity based organization. They dont have to be registered, under EU law.

23:12

Okay

(Unless donations was made with a certain promise, which KoG hasn't done for random donations)

Servers are already hosted using KoG maps

Oenis

I said KoG is a commnity based organization. They dont have to be registered, under EU law.

Wrong

Im gonna host a server using KoG maps

23:13

sue me bi tch

23:13

do it

its been 20min

Oh wow, now you get childish, but sure

23:13

Whatever

can u just stop answering this guy

23:13

xd

Its better to go sleep now, before this takes over and ends up on a bad spotlight for your project

People share maps here the whole existence of the project, but you claim ownership of them?

We are happy to help you set it up

blue and avo have unlimited mana

! filop

blue and avo have unlimited mana

I'm barely even writing anything but thanks

Oenis

People share maps here the whole existence of the project, but you claim ownership of them?

Well, you have to. Please respect the law

And who are "we?" you just told me KoG isnt a community organization, WHO is we? What is KoG?

23:14

WHo exactly is claiming ownership?

Talking to girl on phone, just reading every 5th message

gigachad

3

2

gigachad

1

Or what

Equally dumbfounded by each one

Oenis

WHo exactly is claiming ownership?

me

Bʟυɛ ♡

Talking to girl on phone, just reading every 5th message

to ur mom?

mixi..

my?

Mixi

to ur mom?

No she's probably sleeping now

But now I am interested, what exactly is wrong in our Terms of Service for maps?

Bʟυɛ ♡

No she's probably sleeping now

With me

feelsamazingman

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BRO

Avo. WHO is claiming ownership?

Do you talk about 3. d) ?

DavidC2

With me

bro who tf are you LMAOOO

What is KoG?

Oenis

Avo. WHO is claiming ownership?

KoG administration

So what am I to call that?

23:16

Its not a community organization?

23:16

WHat is it? An "entity"?

23:16

What is its charter? does it have a charter?

23:16

im genuinely confounded

But tell me now about the ToS

23:16

I am interested in changing them if needed

23:16

Is it 3. d)

23:16

that annoys you?

So you want Maps to be open to the public or not?

They are public

23:17

You can download them

I mean jesus, to be open source

23:17

to be free to change, use and implement by anyone

23:17

And again what is the KoG administration? What is that? Can you put a word on it since my word of organization is wrong? And Blue here seems to think "you" own things

23:18

So could you clarify this?

I never said he does

Oenis

And again what is the KoG administration? What is that? Can you put a word on it since my word of organization is wrong? And Blue here seems to think "you" own things

Legally spoken, I do own KoG and its services, yes

I just used an example

How?

23:18

How do you own this Avo? When you were voted into a position by the community and had people come before you?

Oenis

How do you own this Avo? When you were voted into a position by the community and had people come before you?

I dont have to be voted into that position

23:18

I pay the servers and get the bills

23:18

So legally my name is written there

Doesnt mean you own sht

ngl ive read this whole conversation and am incredibly confused how someones so pissed off at a free game

upp

1

It does

Youre just the cow that gets milked

SUSSY

6

2

xD

Im really getting to the point where I want you to take me to court, youre so arrogant cause youre rich/paying the bills

Oenis

Youre just the cow that gets milked

I wanna be that cow

1

koggers

1

thinking you own decades of KoG/DDNET/Teeworlds history and community

Oenis

thinking you own decades of KoG/DDNET/Teeworlds history and community

You dont get it, no? I dont own the community

23:19

I own the services

imagine what kog would have been without administration

You can own the services as much as you want, your ToS is applying to the content, the works, the KoG name etc

S E R V I C E S

Bʟυɛ ♡

I wanna be that cow

feelsthinking

pure anarchy

yeah the person who owns the community is me

Nobody has an issue with your services

komyu

yeah the person who owns the community is me

nah mate i think that would be me

Oenis

You can own the services as much as you want, your ToS is applying to the content, the works, the KoG name etc

Correct, because legally spoken I am the hoster

23:20

So I am responsible for the content I host

23:20

Read the law

23:20

Please

komyu

yeah the person who owns the community is me

Komyu and I have big ownership

Avolicious

Correct, because legally spoken I am the hoster

ARe you this dumb? actually?

together with avo, who we are milking (consensually of course)

feelsthinking

1

feelsking

1

So if I host a server of something I own the content on it?

Omg

23:21

Read my sentence again

no but youd be responsible for what happens on kt

If I host a CS server do I own the CS game and skins and maps and etc?

i want to be milked too

Oenis

If I host a CS server do I own the CS game and skins and maps and etc?

no but if people playing spraypaint swastikas maybe youd be in trouble

WHAT

1

I see, reading is not something you want to

23:21

But here is a TL;DR

MILK ME

WHAT

4

ozurdılerım

i want to be milked too

feelsthinking

So I am responsible for the content I host (edited)

Avolicious

So I am responsible for the content I host (edited)

yeah that was too long

23:22

to read

sorry

23:22

I will do a TL;DR again

1

not readin allat

whys it getting so milky in here

"my server my rules"

fair

Frozen

MILK ME

btw frozen

23:23

i was lying yesterday

tldr go ddrace

about the shoe

@ozurdılerım We could milk each other :o

SUSSY

1

WHAT

1

huh

23:23

23:23

23:23

Open Source Software is differnet than running a service

23:23

Even in legal terms

23:23

Read it up

i was watching a fight dude

felt like watching UFC (edited)

ryuma

felt like watching UFC (edited)

But my lawyers are John Cena

gigachad

3

1

Yoin

ngl ive read this whole conversation and am incredibly confused how someones so pissed off at a free game

Thats the whole point. Dozens if not hundreds of people contributed to this free game. That this guy is now trying to control and own.

DDNet is free

23:24

Teeworlds is free

23:24

Open source

23:24

I dont want to control or own them

23:24

I am just responsible for my services

23:24

So I want proper terms of service

Why did you claim ddnet

You want to own and control this that is based on them. You are also subverting community consensus

! filop

Why did you claim ddnet

Sorry

Oenis

You want to own and control this that is based on them. You are also subverting community consensus

Because I run the services xD

Youre like someone who the people elected (KoG community, that you say doesnt exist)

23:25

and now because you have the money you think you own it

Oh boy

so these are the people that glue themselves to the ground to make a statement...

Its fun to discuss

Youre so wrong thinking that you running a bunch of services gives you the right to own anything

avo really thinks just because he bought something he owns it

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23:25

-ondis

komyu

avo really thinks just because he bought something he owns it

Oenis

Youre so wrong thinking that you running a bunch of services gives you the right to own anything

what does he own tho

My car is not owned by me

he just hosts few servers

Its owned by the car manufacturer

People made you admin/leader and now people are just happy to give up all control cause you pay for it

and has tos for his servers

me personally, i think if i buy groceries

KoG deserves you

lidl still owns them

23:26

-ondis

Im not fighting this fight, but it would be hilarious if you sued me for using one of your maps, especially considering that youve allowed it to happen now for years

Because its about talking

Id smakc your butt so hard you wouldnt be able to sit for days

Peach

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Oenis

Id smakc your butt so hard you wouldnt be able to sit for days

id do that too but without the hate involved

Oenis

Id smakc your butt so hard you wouldnt be able to sit for days

huh

23:27

yes plesase

Oenis

Id smakc your butt so hard you wouldnt be able to sit for days

Peach

He comes here to complain and be angry about KoG and is perma asking to get sued for something

ryuma

and has tos for his servers

he just said himself that it extends to the maps

23:27

So read what he says

23:28

instead of guessing

Can we please stop to sexualize his sentence?

and then actually consider it and stand up to him if you want to

23:28

cause its your community in the end and you can kick him off it as easily as you elected him

Bro he types, i would smack your butt so hard

23:28

How can i not sexualise this

ozur has a point

hes just being friendly ozur

23:28

stop making things up

23:28

youre delusional

23:28

wake up

grind time

But now my last question: Tell me one paragraph from ToS who activly stops you from hosting maps?

Avolicious

Can we please stop to sexualize his sentence?

^I missed something

Bʟυɛ ♡

^I missed something

Oh my gawd

blue spawned

I havent read your ToS in 4 months since the last discussion, Id have to go back and look but you just confirmed you intend it to cover that

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komyu

wake up

zz

Oenis

I havent read your ToS in 4 months since the last discussion, Id have to go back and look but you just confirmed you intend it to cover that

WTF, you talked about ToS all the time but you dont know whats inside?

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Wow, thats actually gigachad

gigachad

"since the last discussion" caught me offguard ngl

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I knew what was inside of it 4 months, which is what I based my conclusions on

But I havent changed it for 1 year

23:30

So you dont have to re-read

23:30

no worries

I just dont remember them, want me to read it?

23:30

The question is do you want to make it more explicit that it does not include the maps

But you are riight, I should add a date somewhere

23:30

more visible

or that it DOES include the maps?

It does cover content uploaded on KoG services, yes

Yeah

But thats crucial to run services on the internet

You're dodging the question again

Even for ddnet

No its not, DDnet obviously runs their services fine

No

without claiming ownership of their content

They dont

23:31

xD

23:32

Legally spoken you cant just say: "Whoopsie, there is content on my service, I am not responsible for it, ask the mapper"

23:32

Thats deen's problem then

so just to be clear, YOU not even KoG admins/KoG community but YOU own anything uploaded to KoG services, according to your ToS? Correct?

23:32

cause you own and pay for the services?

Yep

Great.

23:33

Good to know Avo

crazy conclusion - avo owns what he pays for

So @Mixi

23:33

This ass says he owns all your maps

23:33

@Beautemps Avo says he owns all your maps dude, whats your response, you ok with that?

You hereby grant KoG a non-exclusive, revocable, perpetual, transferable, fully paid-up, royalty-free, worldwide license (including the right to sublicense and assign to third parties) and right to use, copy, reproduce, quote, re-post, fix, print, archive, store, adapt, modify, create derivative works from, manufacture, commercialize, publish, distribute, sell, license, sublicense, syndicate, transfer, translate, lease, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, or provide access to electronically, broadcast, communicate to the public by telecommunication, display, perform, enter into computer memory, and practice, in any way, your User Content, or any portion thereof, in any manner or form in any medium or format, whether now known or hereafter devised, as well as all modified and derivative works thereof in connection with our provision of the Services, including marketing and promotions of the Services, and without Notice, payment, or attribution of any kind to you or any third party.

Oenis

This ass says he owns all your maps

i think you should tag everyone who ever made a map

The girl I'm talking to thinks you're a narcissist. She said "your personality is a shark" idfk what that means but.... boom - mic drop

But Oenis, without this you would not be allowed to host gores maps at all

Bʟυɛ ♡

The girl I'm talking to thinks you're a narcissist. She said "your personality is a shark" idfk what that means but.... boom - mic drop

at least its not a penguin

Because you have to ask every mapper if you got their consent to do so

23:34

Because even maps can get licensed

23:35

This is how we "avoid" this situation and grant you to host gores maps without legal problem

23:35

Thanks Avo

23:35

worldwide license (including the right to sublicense and assign to third parties)

Oenis

This ass says he owns all your maps

cool

Really mixi?

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And just for the sue part: No, we cant just sue you for hosting maps, because mostly lawyers will try to ask you without court involved.

bro and what he can do with it

It is the 41st millennium. For more than a hundred centuries, the Emperor Avolicious has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of his room. He is the Master of Teekind by the will of the gods and the Master of a Million Servers by the might of His inexhaustible armies. He is a rotting carcass, writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the Tee Imperium, for whom a thousand tee souls are sacrificed every day so that he may never truly die.

danAmazing

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Oenis

Really mixi?

what should he say

put on his servers in dead game...

Oenis

Really mixi?

ngl i see a mixi map, it has his name on i think cool map mixi made not that deep

He will create a game like ddnet and put his map on it?

@ChillerDragon Do you own his maps too? Even though they were made before you ever stepped up to the plate?

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Mappers make maps to publish them on kog servers

23:37

KoG can do nothing other than using the maps

23:38

why would they

23:38

care if kog owns them

Oenis

@ChillerDragon Do you own his maps too? Even though they were made before you ever stepped up to the plate?

You are right, ChillerDragon legally owns his old maps

People fought Blizzard on this issue when they claimed ownership of everything that was made on their services. We wouldnt have DoTA /MOBAs if they owned everything

But he sent them to qshar, so they agreed on granting KoG a license for those maps

ozurdılerım

at least its not a penguin

Apparently not one of the available options

So you are not allowed to host ChillerDragon maps until you ask him

23:39

Sadly

This is disgusting. Before you became admin nobody owned anything

23:39

There was no License like this

qshar owned my heart

That makes no sense

People owned their own maps if anything but they were free for everyone to use

There are licenses even beforethat

Oenis

People owned their own maps if anything but they were free for everyone to use

Wrong

blue stealed my map

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ban

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1

Where is it written for free use?

If no one owned it before how could they give ownership to Avo?

Show me

Paradox!

@Bʟυɛ ♡ why did you steal his map??

Idk

23:40

I mean

I hate you and I hate that you have these sycophants defending you. Anywhere else on any other game forum or on reddit youd get the crapper

I don't know what he means

Oenis

I hate you and I hate that you have these sycophants defending you. Anywhere else on any other game forum or on reddit youd get the crapper

I think this might be the core issue, not all the other yapping

@Oenis In CS:GO maps made by community are owned by gaben aswell

uuuhhhhh ahhhhhh ohhhhh

YEs they are. Because they made CS GO

23:40

Avo didnt make the client

that stopped making any sense like 20 minutes ago

Avo didnt make the server code

23:40

Avo didnt make the map maker

Oenis

I hate you and I hate that you have these sycophants defending you. Anywhere else on any other game forum or on reddit youd get the crapper

theres no money involved why is there problem

Oenis

Avo didnt make the server code

I did some stuff

Avo Hosts The KoG and owns the KoG

Atleast tell the truth

Makes it even more disgusting avo

we are going full cycle

I am in the ddnet credits

23:41

look it up

Youre the only one that knows what all this pertains to and youre playing so coy

23:41

I know you are

go on any ddnet server and type /credits

And here you are, doing what they never did to you

supervillain arc behaviour

What should they do to me?

milk

23:41

him

Yoin, stick to the discussion...

You're a sociopath of some sort

I try to do things right

@Yoin Finally someone with some sense.

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But your ToS and service hosting isnt worth the proverbial toilet paper its written on

And NO, OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING A SERVICE PROVIDER

time to play some nikke

feelsscary

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sorry

23:43

had to scream

Damn he's still going

Mixi

time to play some nikke

What is that

want pic?

Sure

Its hilarious and dumb to think that the internet is a room without any legal boundaries

in offtopic

Its even more naive to think that everything is "free" without a proper license

23:44

no its not

23:44

Ask Microsoft

23:44

Ask Google

23:44

Ask Apple

Avo listen. Im gonna try to fight you a little bit but I was never part of this thing. So it feels wrong that Im doing it. And I do appreciate you hosting things. I Just do not see the need to betray everything that made what youre doing possible

23:45

But I do pray that I find some time to host a few servers and that you sue me cause that would be fun

You still dont get it?

bro said little bit after one hour

open tr servers

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Yeah I know you did this, which no other Teeworlds project has done

23:46

And still functioned fine without it

But its not correct xD

I know you hide behind a structure thats not yet defined

23:47

So that you can claim full ownership in the future

Mappers can tell ddnet to remove their maps

and all of this is a very scummy move

Oh shoot, I am now in a strcuture thats not yet defined

23:47

Hopefully they pay good

23:47

I need some vacation after this

Well youre fluctuating

23:47

between "KoG admins"

23:47

to "Me cause I own services"

23:48

to "KoG community" in parts of your texts here

23:48

but yeah the ultimate goal is that YOU own it

23:48

And that people wont be able to elect a new /avo/ insteado f you

23:48

the way adminiship has moved over the years

23:48

Youre taking control Avo

I said: Legally its me, because I do pay the bills -> KoG admins = legal representative, so people know who to contact

and good for you

23:48

Well played

But you've got my masterplan

23:48

Isnt it neat?

Isnt everything I said true?

23:49

Or can they replace Avo?

No they cant replace

23:49

Good, no?

But they could replace the guys before you, right?

Who are you talking about?

Yes, dictatorships forming from community based decade old organizations are so good

Mhmmm, sounds like reptilians in the admin team

23:50

bundled with an AI

23:50

to take over the world

23:50

behind the scenes

Crack, Qshar? Who were the admins I dont remember exactly, nobody ever really "Owned" KoG until you came

underground

that was the whole point

23:50

NOw you own it, right?

crack was not before me

And you cant be replaced

Oenis

And you cant be replaced

Why should I get replaced? Whoever take over the payments will get everything

Oenis

Crack, Qshar? Who were the admins I dont remember exactly, nobody ever really "Owned" KoG until you came

kamillentee sigma

sigma

Sure, yeah, you'll just give it over to someone else, at your own behest.

23:51

Money isnt everything man

23:52

WHat ever, I got what I wanted from this chat

Oenis

Money isnt everything man

It is indeed

23:52

Servers dont run without money

23:52

They have to pay bills too

23:52

They have families

23:52

feelscryman

Teeworlds and DDnet servers ran from community donations and even if people payed more or less

23:53

nobody tried to do what you did. Not even the person who actually created Teeworlds, and who now works for I think either Valve or some swedish game company , the guys that made Battlefield

23:53

He had an other vision

23:53

Which you pissed on

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

23:54

I dont know who you are talking about

23:54

swedish game company

23:54

Valve

Dice

so many companies in on sentence

23:54

Battlefield is teeworlds?

Since ive emailed him I can look it up in my emails

23:54

Again it was 4 months ago

Yes please

GOd youre so arrogant

Look it up

23:55

I would like to know

23:55

Who exactly I "pissed up"

not pissed up

23:55

pissed on

Oh sorry

23:55

My bad

23:56

"pissed on" then

you pissed on his vision of what Teeworlds was to be, which he had clearly stated in his mission statement/license

Oh, he stated that I did it?

23:56

Show me please

23:56

I would love to read it

23:56

Not gonna lie

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But ask ddnet why they force you to put this on your skins:

# Accepted License Types CC0: This gives up copyright and the work will be put in the worldwide public domain. CC0 enables reusers to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon the material in any medium or format, with no conditions. CC BY: This license allows reusers to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon the material in any medium or format, so long as attribution is given to the creator. The license allows for commercial use. CC BY-SA: This license allows reusers to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon the material in any medium or format, so long as attribution is given to the creator. The license allows for commercial use. If you remix, adapt, or build upon the material, you must license the modified material under identical terms. More licenses: https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/

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wo

23:57

bleibt

23:57

mein acc

please allow my account permissions to copyin links and what not

23:57

I cant copy in the the stuff

Send via DM

23:58

links in general chat, i dont trust you

Low

23:58

"CC0: This gives up copyright and the work will be put in the worldwide public domain. CC0 enables reusers to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon the material in any medium or format, with no conditions." ... This alone is enough

Low

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Oenis

"CC0: This gives up copyright and the work will be put in the worldwide public domain. CC0 enables reusers to distribute, remix, adapt, and build upon the material in any medium or format, with no conditions." ... This alone is enough

But IT FORCES YOU to use this license

Everything is under a license yes.

Ahhhhhhhh

23:59

Thank youuuuuu

23:59

There we go

23:59

After 1 hours of discussing (edited)

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The difference is when you used the license of Teeworlds or DDnet you contributed to the world and you could use anyones content to help you and they could use yours

3,4

While you took a big dump on that vision

23:59

and started hoarding it

5,6 wo bleibt mei nacc

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