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General discussions or talks about KoG servers and KoG community can be made here. English only.
Between 2023-04-29 00:00:00Z and 2023-04-30 00:00:00Z
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gdin
i did years ago, don't play it much now xD
Maybe i saw u
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hey get back
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soon timeout again
13:49
wats noob hey
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if people want to send me demo , im going to make my first video random moment, it would be nice to have a lot of demo (i dont have a lot except me ego skills x) ) (edited)
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@tysou_ ban wade
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Krumplee
@tysou_ ban wade
agreed
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hey everyone
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GG @RusGirl, you just advanced to level 1 !
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Inori Yuzuriha does anyone know
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do you need to be qualified to make a map? Like you need to be able to finish the map yourself?
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hey shyze
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what is that
15:44
mix between shayze and shyzo
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yes idk he is crazy
15:46
@feat maybe one day go wake up avo and ask him to delete rank from cheater in winter_rain map
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15:46
i'm still waiting my r1
15:47
@KoG u too
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ToJiᴸⁿᴴ 2023-04-29 16:16:56Z
Ok
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Shayze
@feat maybe one day go wake up avo and ask him to delete rank from cheater in winter_rain map
One day, maybe feelswarmman
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Omggggg I'm freeeeeeeee
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DavidC2
Omggggg I'm freeeeeeeee
Ok that's enough David for one week. Back to muted he goes
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No stop I'll do anything. gets on knees (edited)
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DavidC2
No stop I'll do anything. gets on knees (edited)
im the big man boss around here
18:40
just fyi
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DavidC2
No stop I'll do anything. gets on knees (edited)
Ayo, I'm just joking. No stress... Send me a DM
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can anyone verify me?
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ToJiᴸⁿᴴ 2023-04-29 19:13:19Z
No
19:13
Ok
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Champ
why not🥲
ToJiᴸⁿᴴ 2023-04-29 19:17:08Z
#✉-create-a-ticket
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Champ
can anyone verify me?
Please create a Ticket 🙂
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i created, but i dont finish a map
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GG @Champ, you just advanced to level 1 !
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Alright just finish one map and visit our Website After it to claim your Name 🙂
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you have a map easy to indicate for me?
20:17
I'm very new to this kind of thing
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Every Easy map should be doable After some trys with some people 🙂 or maybe you can solo it already. GL with that!
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~Nertato~
Every Easy map should be doable After some trys with some people 🙂 or maybe you can solo it already. GL with that!
thanks
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ill help you
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No worries we got enough players who Are willed to help
20:18
There we go
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thank you so much
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Hey guys
20:18
are u testing a new easy map?
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id love to try like if u rolling on right now
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Because you mapped one?
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nah i just logged in
20:19
and u wrote somethign about need/having players who are willing to help
20:19
but u might have talked about something else nvm
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Ye we kinda did ^^
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GG @Ondis, you just advanced to level 9 !
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what map?
20:30
u guys still doing it? cause it would be fun to try team a new map
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Where can I start a petition that we have less Ger3 servers and more FRA servers!!!! FRA servers are the only ones that currently run halfway stable! or at least do not waste two test servers for it!
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PeBox
Where can I start a petition that we have less Ger3 servers and more FRA servers!!!! FRA servers are the only ones that currently run halfway stable! or at least do not waste two test servers for it!
change.org or you can offer to buy a server for a few bucks a month probs 😉 (edited)
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Ondis
u guys still doing it? cause it would be fun to try team a new map
hes from brazil
20:32
sadge
20:32
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Ondis
change.org or you can offer to buy a server for a few bucks a month probs 😉 (edited)
the time will come where i support 🙂
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Ondis
change.org or you can offer to buy a server for a few bucks a month probs 😉 (edited)
20:34
man you should be able to tell people what they should do with your donatiosn tbh 😛 like donate for a specific cause
20:35
Im on wifi like Tyrone and some others so I have no idea what servers are stable and what are not tbh
20:35
What you should know about Teeworlds is that it uses a highly efficient but highly unstable network code
20:36
I read up on it before, I cant remember exactly how it works but it cuts down on bandwith but results in great amounts of lag if even a few packets re lost or delayed
20:37
so it might not be to the servers, i think ppl have complained about this forever
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It's all a money issue as far as I understand. You could get really good hosting and amazing ddos protection as well and all the possible benefits and safeties. But the prices go up exponentially with each added benefit
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so why dont we just print more money
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komyu
so why dont we just print more money
Damn, someone really should have thought about that before
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Cuz we'd have to go to war against Libya and China and anyone who wants to switch away from our fiat currency then
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Damn, someone really should have thought about that before
yeah
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and we just dont have the tanks to support that
20:45
all in on green
20:45
xqcGAMBA
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But, since KoG doesn't really have a reliable income or unlimited starter budget, there's a certain limit to what can be provided (server wise) with the capital we have. So if we had more money, there would be more servers, better hosting, more secure hosting etc. etc.
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But seriously, server wide lag seems rare in Teeworlds, that time when everyone says "oh crap it lagged, yeah it lagged". Its more a client to server issue and with the protocol Teeworlds is using packets aren't resent, which means inputs you make for a delayed or lost packet will be ignored and you'll miss hooks, etc.
20:47
it mainly happens when they DDoS us and like Blue said we cant afford ddos protection its been talked about before (edited)
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But any client side issues are outside KoG's field too, since we run on DDnet's client it's on their part
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blame DDnetfeelswarmman
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We're just hosting servers, they run the client. Beyond that, my knowledge is rather limited. I'm not super involved in the techy stuff
20:48
you are megamind
20:48
you know everything
fakenews 2
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why doesn't kog have leaderboards for speedrunners?
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I don't know the KoG drama backstory, still waiting on @Mixi to make his step by step explanation of the iceberg meme
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Rockus
why doesn't kog have leaderboards for speedrunners?
it does?
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Ondis
it does?
where?
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Someone made a list or most rank 1's, most top5's most teamranks etc
20:50
Don't know where it is though
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but why not a leaderboard that's maintained all thbe time
20:50
like ddnet (edited)
20:50
that's not a leaderboard, that's a static list
20:50
no?
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I'm not sure
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I thought like points were tracked on the website, maybe even times? Maybe not?
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Updated 26 Aprl
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why asking me
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Mixi
why asking me
idk, you could know maybe?
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jesus, ziinox so much ahead of everyone xdd
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Yeah mixi, y u no know?
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Yeah mixi, y u no know?
yeah exactly
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he is not ahead of everyone
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nobody plays this game
20:52
2 different things
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He's in fact, ahead of everyone
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then you are wrong
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even if a lot of people played this game he would still be ahead
20:52
its here too
20:53
he wouldnt have that much r1's
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Ondis
man
that's not speedruns
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GG @Rockus, you just advanced to level 7 !
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. kog.tw/#p=ranks
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Mixi
he wouldnt have that much r1's
true, but still ahead
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its on official website
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He is, un-arguably, ahead of everyone
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Ondis
its on official website
man that's not speedrun wtf
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Bʟυɛ ♡
He is, un-arguably, ahead of everyone
from bots perspective surely
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The fact that they stopped playing or are banned or whatever, is on their side. Ziinox, literally, figuratively and statistically is ahead of everyone
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its sorted by points because people are point h*rny here and get kog status due to points
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Mixi
from bots perspective surely
so he's not good?
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In this current discussion
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Rockus
so he's not good?
he is one of the best players to ever touch this game
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seems like you're trying to say he's not good xd
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but he is not ahead of everyone
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skill wise maybe jukki better
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Rockus
so he's not good?
No, lul. I'm an AI generated robot. He's using bot as an insult to me
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Bʟυɛ ♡
No, lul. I'm an AI generated robot. He's using bot as an insult to me
you are Teepova
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He's got 196 rank 1's
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ALso Rockus here is the speedrun for maps. You click on map then you get the speedrun records: kog.tw/#p=maps&map=002
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because nobody plays this game
20:54
bro
20:54
whats hard to understand
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Ondis
ALso Rockus here is the speedrun for maps. You click on map then you get the speedrun records: kog.tw/#p=maps&map=002
you didn't understand what i said
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Rockus
you are Teepova
No, that's another dude. He's french
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Mixi
because nobody plays this game
what do you mean
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im totaly lost then
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Rockus
what do you mean
tell me
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what leaderboards are yo utalking about
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polish people played this game for years
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which pro speedrunner is still active
20:55
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they didn't reach his skill XD
20:55
there was never none
20:55
because admins don't help on that
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Mixi
because nobody plays this game
If no one plays this game, he's still ahead of everyone. Your argument is stupid here
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where are the leaderboards?
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Rockus
they didn't reach his skill XD
you are wrong again
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what's the point of speedrunning if it goes unnoticed?
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back 2-3 years ago, rog3 was like hardest map
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other than youtube videos
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Ziinox 196 rank 1's. Number 2, 55
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you cant compare skill cap now with skill cap some years ago
20:56
its like with cs pro scene
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Mixi
you cant compare skill cap now with skill cap some years ago
so he's ahead of everyone
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He's literally more than 3 times ahead, almost 4
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and every other game
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and when you say no one plays this game
20:56
you mean polish scene is dead
20:56
but polish scene isn't kog XD
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why polish?
20:56
never said its about polish ppl
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there's probably as much players now as in 2020
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but answer my previous question
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Mixi no one was talking about skill
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which pro speedrunners are still active
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We were talking about rank 1's
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i remember you saying that polish scene is dead and it seems like kog is polish scene for you
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Mixi
which pro speedrunners are still active
idk, kog never had speedrunners did they XD
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20:57
why question mark
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you must be trolling
20:57
or what
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no i'm not
20:57
tell me one speedrunner
20:57
kiri
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tbf i never see Milan Heyng kiri speedrunning anymore
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polish
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other
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Arent everyone speedrunning this game all the time? Im so freakin confused
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he is from bulgaira
20:58
bulgaria
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isnt every record for every map a speedrun?
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kirisaki?
20:58
other?
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mivv just got a rank 1 on insane with ziinox today
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Yoin
tbf i never see Milan Heyng kiri speedrunning anymore
Milan plays fng, kiri plays under other names, heyng study
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he is not active
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As blue said you were talking about r1 not skills
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why would people be active even if there's no leaderboards to fight for
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Ziinox has x3 more than number 2
20:59
End of argument
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Yeah, idk what angle mixi came in with. We were all discussing only the stat that is showed on KOF's website
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more copium, if all other pros were still active he wouldnt dominate r1 leaderboard so hard
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Idk how you can argue against statistics
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Yeah, idk what angle mixi came in with. We were all discussing only the stat that is showed on KOF's website
He does that sometimes
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Mixi
more copium, if all other pros were still active he wouldnt dominate r1 leaderboard so hard
ofc
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No one said that
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What leaderboards are you talking about man can you clarify? There are leaderboards for x number of fastest runs per player and there are leaderboards for fastest time on map?
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but he would still be ahead of almost everyone
20:59
or everyone
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And whether or not anyone takes htem seriously is an other topic
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you should say
20:59
he is ahead of current speedrunning scene on kog
21:00
which is dead
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We were talking about now, and this situation and the stats that are shown, right now
21:00
Not some speculation what might've been or could've been
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its like competing with yourself
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So?
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He's still ahead of everyone
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exactly
21:00
still ahead
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Idk what you're getting at...
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Mixi
he is ahead of current speedrunning scene on kog
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Mixi
he is ahead of current speedrunning scene on kog
so hes ahead of everyone
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still requires a lot of skill
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Mostly dead cuz they’ve seen the gap btw him and them 🤧🤧🤧
21:00
feelswarmman
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when advertisements for kog appearing 😦
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Yoin
when advertisements for kog appearing 😦
When money
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COPIUM (edited)
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anyways, i think kog should implement speedrunning leaderboards
21:00
i guess it's not that hard
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Yoin
when advertisements for kog appearing 😦
When microtransactions come
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could even follow the same logic as ddnet tbh
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broski is trying to convince us the arguments hes making do anything to what blue is saying 💀
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Maybe not, there are coming some major updates, eventually. And things like that will (probably) come after when the core system is all done and finished
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@Avolicious would that be a possibility, to have speedrunning leaderboards?
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how about we find the richest people we know and get them addicted to kog, and get them to play with their rich friends
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GG @Yoin, you just advanced to level 16 !
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i got a better idea
21:02
we eat them
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Rockus, for f*ck sake can you just explain what you mean with leaderboards?
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Rockus
@Avolicious would that be a possibility, to have speedrunning leaderboards?
"And things like that will (probably) come after when the core system is all done and finished"
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Ondis
Rockus, for f*ck sake can you just explain what you mean with leaderboards?
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Bʟυɛ ♡
"And things like that will (probably) come after when the core system is all done and finished"
what is he changing?
21:02
btw @Mixi, kirisaki has 17 r1 how do you cosnider him a speedrunner XD
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komyu
we eat them
we blackmail them then eat them
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Rockus
btw @Mixi, kirisaki has 17 r1 how do you cosnider him a speedrunner XD
. (edited)
21:02
Im not going to talk with you
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ok, typical mixi
upp 1
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feelsamazingman 1
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Yeah, its already there and on the official website its by points instead of by gold silver bronze. So both options exist
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Rockus
what is he changing?
I mean KoG 2.0
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Bʟυɛ ♡
I mean KoG 2.0
is it going to happen?
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Some updates are already launched...
21:03
It's not a 1 time BOOM thing
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Rockus
is it going to happen?
Soon (tm)
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It's a ongoing update
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i see, nice
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Rockus
ok, typical mixi
he is top3 kog speedrunner of all time
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where can i see the main updates coming
21:03
or features
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It begun quite a while back
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Mixi
he is top3 kog speedrunner of all time
kog was already dead when he was speedrunning
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thats why theres moderators creating rainbow peoples
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like you ever played kog
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did i make him invalid
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and now talk like you know anything
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Rockus
kog was already dead when he was speedrunning
KoG has literally grown by 9000% in the last few years due to steam release
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ok mister og
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Ondis
KoG has literally grown by 9000% in the last few years due to steam release
i was being ironic
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should have maybe used /s
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Oxyder_ is our advertisment, he is going to make kog famous
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your argument is like
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he has 17 r1 now so he is bad, jukki is not even top100 so he is bad
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fixed points don't matter xd
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Rockus
where can i see the main updates coming
Main ones are announced in News I think. We have a bit more of a constant stream in mod chats that's more consistently updating. But there will be an entire different core system and most things will probably have to change with it. I don't know how much I can or should say, tbh. But a lot will change, and it's not really worth making new features, if they have to be remade in a while when everything else updates around it
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Main ones are announced in News I think. We have a bit more of a constant stream in mod chats that's more consistently updating. But there will be an entire different core system and most things will probably have to change with it. I don't know how much I can or should say, tbh. But a lot will change, and it's not really worth making new features, if they have to be remade in a while when everything else updates around it
and by core what do you mean?
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bro if ziinox is competing against no one he is miles ahead of everyone
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Mixi
he has 17 r1 now so he is bad, jukki is not even top100 so he is bad
btw, ask kirisaki to finish 069
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XD
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your points arent pointy bro
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Avolicious needs to mute his ai before it spills too much
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Like, how data is transmitted, how it's stored, how we use moderative tools, the website etc. The foundation of everything
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Like, how data is transmitted, how it's stored, how we use moderative tools, the website etc. The foundation of everything
cool! changing the way the database works as wqell? (edited)
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Rockus
btw, ask kirisaki to finish 069
with his old form from like 2k20-21, easy for him with enough time
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Rockus
fixed points don't matter xd
Neither do #of speedrun wins. "Nobody cares" about that in any speedrunning community. Instead people speedrun maps/levels/stages and that's already up there everywhere on the website
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its just farm map
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@Mixi 100€ if you finish it?
21:07
since its farm map
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and you will go work instead of me
21:07
?
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Ondis
Neither do #of speedrun wins. "Nobody cares" about that in any speedrunning community. Instead people speedrun maps/levels/stages and that's already up there everywhere on the website
sorry, did not understand
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Need the core first before you can add everything else. But the core is the long and hard work. Once the main pieces fall in place, the rest will roll faster. Like building a new house. The ground work takes the longest, and once that's in place, it only takes a month and suddenly there's a new building (edited)
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Mixi
and you will go work instead of me
sure, what you do?
21:07
it will be too much for you unfortunately
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Need the core first before you can add everything else. But the core is the long and hard work. Once the main pieces fall in place, the rest will roll faster. Like building a new house. The ground work takes the longest, and once that's in place, it only takes a month and suddenly there's a new building (edited)
are you actually an AI
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He is
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Rockus
sorry, did not understand
why do you care if someone has 100 speedrun records or 10 speedrun records. Whats interesting are the times on harder maps, or what ever map you as a speedrunner/player like to play?
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Mixi
it will be too much for you unfortunately
oh, mister strong man
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*in that case id rather take points over number of records as a determination of skill (edited)
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Ondis
why do you care if someone has 100 speedrun records or 10 speedrun records. Whats interesting are the times on harder maps, or what ever map you as a speedrunner/player like to play?
not really
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Im sure that there are 30 or even more people that could easily finish 69
21:08
its just matter of time and trying again and again
21:08
farm map
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Mixi
its just matter of time and trying again and again
mentality is part of the skill, a thing that many people don't have and prob those 30 people wouldn't be able to because of their mentality
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yeah bro give me 100 years and ill get it 🤣 shut yo goofy ahh up bro thats not an argument
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Rockus
are you actually an AI
Now I cannot legally deny, nor confirm this statement. But what I have an "educational" video that could help you understand more."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0"
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maybe that's what distinguishes ziinox from the rest
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Now I cannot legally deny, nor confirm this statement. But what I have an "educational" video that could help you understand more."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvFZjo5PgG0"
LOL nice try
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nobody works
21:09
everyone has a lot of free time
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I did the thingy wrong :C
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just to play teeworlds
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but you said easily wtf
21:09
i thought it was easy
21:09
shouldn't takle much time right?
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go read again
21:09
go work instead of me
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Mixi
Im sure that there are 30 or even more people that could easily finish 69
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and I can play 69
21:10
all day long
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"easily"
21:10
whats hard with that?
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if something is easy it shouldn't take that much time. how many hours do you work?
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just spam this map 10 hours everyday
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but you said easily
21:10
why would you need to spam it 10 hours
21:10
should take max 1 hour if it's esay, right?
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Mixi
whats hard with that?
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Rockus
should take max 1 hour if it's esay, right?
nobody is able to finish this map just in 1 hour, it will take days
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but you said easily, not me
21:11
anyways
21:11
talking to you is the same as talking to a brick wall
21:11
so i will stop chatting before they ban me as usual xd
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If I played Kog 10 hours every day id be the best of all time
21:11
Prove me wrong
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Rockus
so i will stop chatting before they ban me as usual xd
no wonder they ban you so often
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jeez guys
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Mixi
no wonder they ban you so often
ye, no wonder. people with differnet opinions should be banned. note that you insulted me by calling me "stupid"
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I see what you're both going at, and I'm here to explain both sides. Mixi means that he knows 30 people that could, with their current skill level or very close to their current skill level, finish 069 solo after enough time and tries spent, right now. Rockus means that if you have to spend an entire day or a rather big number of tries to finish a map, it isn't considered to be "easy". (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
I see what you're both going at, and I'm here to explain both sides. Mixi means that he knows 30 people that could, with their current skill level or very close to their current skill level, finish 069 solo after enough time and tries spent, right now. Rockus means that if you have to spend an entire day or a rather big number of tries to finish a map, it isn't considered to be "easy". (edited)
good bot
21:12
Blue4Mod
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Camme
Blue4Mod
That would never work, no one is stupied enough to elect me as moderator
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Rockus
not really
My question to both is "who give's a Fck?" and how is this related to anything else. Stop measuring dicks boys lol
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Rockus
ye, no wonder. people with differnet opinions should be banned. note that you insulted me by calling me "stupid"
if you take a look and read what you wrote earlier, its a fact
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Bʟυɛ ♡
That would never work, no one is stupied enough to elect me as moderator
fair enough
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Ondis
My question to both is "who give's a Fck?" and how is this related to anything else. Stop measuring dicks boys lol
Asking the REAL questions
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if you don't give a fck no need to chat. we're not measuring dicks, simply discussing something.
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nono thats no discussion
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Mixi
if you take a look and read what you wrote earlier, its a fact
what
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ok let me explain
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what is stupid in what you said
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go ahead
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you get something out of a discussion
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measuring dicks can be a discussion
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Camme
you get something out of a discussion
ye, we're getting something. people get so heated when having discussions LOL
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Camme
you get something out of a discussion
They could reach the point of actually understanding what the other person is trying to say, however I deem this scenario most unlikely. (edited)
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So what is this discussion about really? Whether or not patience and stamina is part of the skill aspect of kog? (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
They could reach the point of actually understanding what the other person is trying to say, however I deem this scenario most unlikely. (edited)
wont happen XD
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Cause we've definetely left the part about whether we have speedrunners or not7
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I see what you're both going at, and I'm here to explain both sides. Mixi means that he knows 30 people that could, with their current skill level or very close to their current skill level, finish 069 solo after enough time and tries spent, right now. Rockus means that if you have to spend an entire day or a rather big number of tries to finish a map, it isn't considered to be "easy". (edited)
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nah, i understand what mixi's saying and its true: if the speedrunning community was more active ziinox probably wouldn't have as much r1 as he has
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still, maybe he would have
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i don't think saying the community is inactive invalidates his ranks
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but that doesnt matter at all because its a hypothetical
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and we only have reality
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komyu
bro if ziinox is competing against no one he is miles ahead of everyone
he is the only one who tryharding rank1 soo
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komyu
and we only have reality
exactly
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like going on for hours about ifs and maybes you could make any argument work
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komyu
like going on for hours about ifs and maybes you could make any argument work
good point
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komyu
like going on for hours about ifs and maybes you could make any argument work
but that's what i'm syaing. mixi keeps saying the ifs
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nah, i understand what mixi's saying and its true: if the speedrunning community was more active ziinox probably wouldn't have as much r1 as he has
Isn't it enough to show that various people can compete with him on some maps, that are clearly very hard? Thats my whole point on why # of wins dont matter
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komyu hypothetically the oceans conveyer belt could break in the next 70 years, that matters (edited)
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If you have a few very good times / records on a few very hard maps, you don't have to waste hours and hours farming wins on everything
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which is why times are more important than # wins
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komyu hypothetically the oceans conveyer belt could break in the next 70 years, that matters (edited)
😭😭WE MUST STAND TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING
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HUNT R1 ON 069!!
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which is why times are more important than # wins
maybe for you, but that's not what happens on ddnet and people enjoy farming rank 1s
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earlier, you said that its weird Im considering kiri as a speedrunner with 17 r1 finishes (right now), well if you look as his activity lately it just doesnt exist, he is not playing this game anymore so its normal that his r1 are beaten (even I could beat them after some time), next thing is time when he set his r1s, go ahead and check the dates, most of them are old runs so I dont get why he shouldnt be considered as a speedrunner just because he is not active anymore, so if like any pro player stops playing he shouldnt be considered as a pro anymore? where is the logic
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komyu
HUNT R1 ON 069!!
easiest way to stop the salinity from changing is to complete 069 r1
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earlier, you said that its weird Im considering kiri as a speedrunner with 17 r1 finishes (right now), well if you look as his activity lately it just doesnt exist, he is not playing this game anymore so its normal that his r1 are beaten (even I could beat them after some time), next thing is time when he set his r1s, go ahead and check the dates, most of them are old runs so I dont get why he shouldnt be considered as a speedrunner just because he is not active anymore, so if like any pro player stops playing he shouldnt be considered as a pro anymore? where is the logic
ye, you're right. kirisaki is a speedrunner
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no way with 17 r1s????
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ziinox could beat all of his ranks in his current form tho
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are we discussing about the definition of a speedrunner?
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Rockus
maybe for you, but that's not what happens on ddnet and people enjoy farming rank 1s
meh well there you have it different people different communities, and maybe like mixi said people have jobs/ lives etc. As we established earlier, the "community" as a whole has grown so yeah.
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ziinox could beat all of his ranks in his current form tho
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Everyone can focus on what ever they think is "important", its always gonan be subjective
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bro, you're trash XD
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Camme
are we discussing about the definition of a speedrunner?
I'm not sure, let's just watch and see where it goes...
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when I played actively I already beat some of them
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they changed topics like 5 times
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why are you saying Im trash
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This was not the direction I expected
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rockus going in for the kill
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I even beat ziinox r1's
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Mixi
why are you saying Im trash
you are
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Im still trash?
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Grabbing popcorn
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Ondis
meh well there you have it different people different communities, and maybe like mixi said people have jobs/ lives etc. As we established earlier, the "community" as a whole has grown so yeah.
well, on that website you have the proof that some people like to farm some ranks and i think giving them some leaderboard would be cool
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how can teash beat ziinox r1 runs
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@Rockus
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biting nails
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to show that people actually speedrun maps in this community
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Mixi
how can teash beat ziinox r1 runs
which map
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most recent is topaz I think
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well, on that website you have the proof that some people like to farm some ranks and i think giving them some leaderboard would be cool
We already established that there is a website that tracks it, its just not official but fine, yeah sure, add # rank 1s as a category to # points (edited)
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some months ago
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well, on that website you have the proof that some people like to farm some ranks and i think giving them some leaderboard would be cool
The # of players that give a sh*t about any f this is like 0.1% of the community but it would take so little to indulge them so why not
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good job @Mixi . if ziinox wanted to get that rank back he prob would get it faster than you could beat it
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We already established that there is a website that tracks it, its just not official but fine, yeah sure, add # rank 1s as a category to # points (edited)
and what i m saying is that it shoudl be official
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that's it xd
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so no matter anyone does
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thats fine yeah
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everyone is trash for you
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it wouldnt be hard to add it, just send the admin of kog.tw or what ever an email
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Ondis
The # of players that give a sh*t about any f this is like 0.1% of the community but it would take so little to indulge them so why not
i don't know about those %, seems like you're just throwing it in the air
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Where can I start a petition that we have less Ger3 servers and more FRA servers!!!! FRA servers are the only ones that currently run halfway stable! or at least do not waste two test servers for it!
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I mean we already have /top5 command. You can quite clearly see it there. But, I agree. Probably won't be too hard adding KOF's list to KoG. However, not sure how to update it if not manually, and maybe KOF wants credit for the work he has done. I don't know, it's not a bad idea. But probably not the first priority of things to do on the already very long list of coming updates and tweaks that Avo is working on* (edited)
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he'll probably add it in a few weeks, no reason not to add it
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Mixi
everyone is trash for you
nah, ziinox goated
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jukki goated
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nekoma
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many goated plyaers
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Mixi
everyone is trash for you
thats what hes saying yeah, that ziinox isnt competing with anyone for r1s right now
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good job @Mixi . if ziinox wanted to get that rank back he prob would get it faster than you could beat it
so I can say the same, if Damian was unbanned and fully tryharded he could get all r1's from ziinox
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skill is something else
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I dunno walt
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Rockus
i don't know about those %, seems like you're just throwing it in the air
You and Mixi are more or less saying that type of speedrunning is dead, the people that care probably know about the unofficial website
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so I can say the same, if Damian was unbanned and fully tryharded he could get all r1's from ziinox
maybe? maybe not?
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damian is levels ahead of you @Mixi
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ur so bad
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Only ziinox speedruns
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but what ever, add it, its a good idea. There, we can kiss and make up now @Mixi @Rockus lol
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idont know who im speaking too
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i made a friend today
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damian is levels ahead of you @Mixi
and damian thinks the same?
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Tyrone cat pics now
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Mixi
so I can say the same, if Damian was unbanned and fully tryharded he could get all r1's from ziinox
We don't know, you can't say for certain. It's a hypothetical situation
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ziinox can't beat bzolow
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Bʟυɛ ♡
We don't know, you can't say for certain. It's a hypothetical situation
Im certain
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Mixi
and damian thinks the same?
what
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Bʟυɛ ♡
We don't know, you can't say for certain. It's a hypothetical situation
same that you cant say ziinox would beat my r1 with no struggle
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what are you trying to say mixi
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how can you compare skill of 2 people
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when you dont even play kog
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anyways, i just suggested adding some way to highlight speedrunning in this community, something like ddnet (edited)
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dont know how people play/played in the past
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I think most pros dont have the dedication to speedrun maps
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I mean i dont have lmao
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you say Im trash so why I still have so many r1s
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i play kog, i'm focused on kog now insetad of ddrace
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its easy to beat them
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Krumplee
I think most pros dont have the dedication to speedrun maps
Skill issue l2p
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Skill issue l2p
No im just a lazy fck xdddd
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Krumplee
I mean i dont have lmao
ye, just like ddnet, you have guys that farm points and guys that speedrun
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Mixi
same that you cant say ziinox would beat my r1 with no struggle
I never said it. But, Ziinox's skill level is higher than yours, he is better at speedrunning and he has the statistical advantage, so that scenario is much easier to calculate. Damian's scenario is far-fetched at this point. Even if I believe you, it's purely hypothetical.
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you can still get very good players out of both worlds xd
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mate ive got two balls
21:25
not 3
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Rockus
you can still get very good players out of both worlds xd
Ye from speedrunning only 1 xddd
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i think mila is gonna get fat
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@Krumplee and still, speedrunning should be highlighted in this community. even if you don't speedrun there's people that do and maybe more people would if there was a leaderboard
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i give her so many treats
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if ziinox is so goated, why it took him so much time to get the hardest r1s like 69 @Rockus
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and would be good for community skill growth
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i guess
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damian did it in 1 night
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@Mixi who are we arguing against
21:26
let me speak to them
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@Krumplee and still, speedrunning should be highlighted in this community. even if you don't speedrun there's people that do and maybe more people would if there was a leaderboard
Why highlight something when there is no one to compete against
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damn, you hate ziinox with all your heart @Mixi
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Tyrone
@Mixi who are we arguing against
this rockus guy
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since he did that to you on that map
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Rockus
damn, you hate ziinox with all your heart @Mixi
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you never forgave him XD
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@Rockus come voice
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Im his friend actually
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u sure?
21:27
you hating so much
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come talk 1 rocus
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Tyrone
come talk 1 rocus
why
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@Rockus come talk 1
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i need to have a word with you
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buddy
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Krumplee
Why highlight something when there is no one to compete against
that's what i msaying, maybe more people would compete if it was hihglighted
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you know
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No xdd
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why not
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come voice now
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how can you say no
21:27
are you the community
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Was Damian better than Ziinox when he was active? Yes. Did he have a head-start in rank 1's? Yes. Does that automatically mean that he would keep evolving at a similar as Ziinox? No. Could Ziinox have surpassed him? Maybe. Could Damian evolve fast enough so that for todays conversation, he would have more rank 1's? Possibly. Could Ziinox have evolved faster than what Damian could keep up with? Equally possible. (edited)
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Rockus
you hating so much
Im not hating? You just trying to prove that everyone is trash
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Rockus vs Tyrone, right now, AiP-Gores run-off for the honor of Mixi
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Make it happen biatches
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Rockus
are you the community
Yes
21:28
I play t0
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@Rockus come voice
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Im the community
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Was Damian better than Ziinox when he was active? Yes. Did he have a head-start in rank 1's? Yes. Does that automatically mean that he would keep evolving at a similar as Ziinox? No. Could Ziinox have surpassed him? Maybe. Could Damian evolve fast enough so that for todays conversation, he would have more rank 1's? Possibly. Could Ziinox have evolved faster than what Damian could keep up with? Equally possible. (edited)
btw, ziinox started playing kog seriously in 2021 XD
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Mixi
Im not hating? You just trying to prove that everyone is trash
what?
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@Rockus come voice talk 1
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that's the worst take ver
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me mixi waiting
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Rockus
btw, ziinox started playing kog seriously in 2021 XD
No he got 144hz xd
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Tyrone
me mixi waiting
rather chat
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come voice
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Skill issue don’t get ban and you won’t be forgotten like damian
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No he got 144hz xd
i got 70hz 😦
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btw, ziinox started playing kog seriously in 2021 XD
and some people never played seriously, so what
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rockus you dont need to speak
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just come listen to me
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@Mixi i think you hold some grudges to your past
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It's hypothetical situation. So you cannot make a clear cut answer. In the end, it's only opinions and there is no FACTUAL answer.
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can we stop arguing now? xd
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All we can say, is that today. Ziinox is unarguably the number 1 in rank 1's and he is in FACT more than 3x ahead of everyone else.
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i just made a suggestion
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i'd like to see speedrunning community on kog to grow
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that's it
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@Rockus come voice
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I dont know, its clear that ziinox is top1 speedrun player rn and from active players nobody is close to him (maybe jukki if he tried) but trying to prove that any other player that is not active anymore is trash is just weird bro
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Tyrone
@Rockus come voice
stop harrassing me bro
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Mixi
I dont know, its clear that ziinox is top1 speedrun player rn and from active players nobody is close to him (maybe jukki if he tried) but trying to prove that any other player that is not active anymore is trash is just weird bro
i'm not trying to do that
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Is he 3x ahead of everyone's potential? Impossible to say. That's not what we are talking about either.
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i just said you are trash
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and that's undeniably true
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thats you
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Ok i will tryhard 069 what will i prove if i dont tryhard any other map
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Krumplee
Ok i will tryhard 069 what will i prove if i dont tryhard any other map
go i watch
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Bʟυɛ ♡
All we can say, is that today. Ziinox is unarguably the number 1 in rank 1's and he is in FACT more than 3x ahead of everyone else.
I would say that he has almost 6times more r1 than mixi aswell feelswarmman
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@Andrew~ hola no se hablar ingles, es por si pedes alludar a reportar una persona
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Mixi
Click to see attachment 🖼️
you are trash, not everyone else XD
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Rockus
go i watch
And what do i prove
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If i only tryhard 1 map
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Krumplee
Ok i will tryhard 069 what will i prove if i dont tryhard any other map
That maybe 069 isn't as hard to solo as everyone might've thought before.
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Krumplee
And what do i prove
that you can finish 069 slower than ziinox
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@Ondis thanks for that dm
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saºkura
@Andrew~ hola no se hablar ingles, es por si pedes alludar a reportar una persona
#✉-create-a-ticket
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why is mixi self roasting
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wotefok
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He was slow but still a good rank
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go beat my r1s
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rockus
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Im just trash
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Even he said it he was slow
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easy for you
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rockus im better than you
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Krumplee
Even he said it he was slow
ye, some parts he can speed up
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but that's next gen speedrunning
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full keyboard movement
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hook down
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@Andrew~ hola no se hablar ingles, es por si pedes alludar a reportar una persona
#✉-create-a-ticket crea un ticket y yo puedo te ayudar
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Krumplee
Even he said it he was slow
I liked the video because he took time to land on platforms and re-align some hooks and stopped when he wasn't comfortable. Made it more understandable and easier to cope with.
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Mixi
Im just trash
you're trash in the sense that you play tihs gamemode for ages and you never really achieved anything notable (edited)
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Exactly
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@Bʟυɛ ♡ coming voice?
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Tyrone
@Bʟυɛ ♡ coming voice?
why?
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His rank is 1:50~
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i play azir first time mid
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@Andrew~ no se crear un tiquet
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Tyrone
i play azir first time mid
annie goated
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Its possible 1:30> way lower
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Rockus
you're trash in the sense that you play tihs gamemode for ages and you never really achieved anything notable (edited)
I won couple of gold medals, reached r1 in points, finished all maps at some point, got couple of r1s
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adc best lane
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if its trash for you then 99% of kog players are trash for you
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Mixi
I won couple of gold medals, reached r1 in points, finished all maps at some point, got couple of r1s
Noob
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Rockus
btw, ziinox started playing kog seriously in 2021 XD
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Rockus
annie goated
just come voice
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I'm not super comfortable with Azir, but I am still the Macro goat so I can coach you there
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Mixi
I won couple of gold medals, reached r1 in points, finished all maps at some point, got couple of r1s
bro, imagine saying that fixed points actually means something
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XD
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XDDDDD
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by checking his profile on kog.tw
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Only points
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That matters
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so what about my r1s
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@Rockus
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But I also want to see what foolish things these puny humans can say, this conversation is amusing.
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@Rockus come voice
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As an AI of course, I view things from a different angle
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Mixi
so what about my r1s
good on you getting ranks on chillerdragores
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ngl, you flexing ranks on maps that no one plays
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and invalidating ziinox by saying community doesn't play (edited)
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kinda cringe
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ok
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Im cringe
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Bro do u realize that you are proving our point now
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I just leave
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Krumplee
Bro do u realize that you are proving our point now
what
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Rockus
by checking his profile on kog.tw
he played way sooner than 2021 lol
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nEProiect
he played way sooner than 2021 lol
i said tryharding
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GG @Rockus, you just advanced to level 8 !
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i mean, that's what i guess based on his profile
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Bs topic
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Drop this
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@Rockus stop typign im playing league mate, lets just speak in voice
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Drop this
agreed
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Tyrone
@Rockus stop typign im playing league mate, lets just speak in voice
only speak to adc mains
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I mean, Rockus telling one of the best players in KoG history that he's trash is just foolish. But, it's online gaming banter, nothing that you need to take serious. Also there is no way to know exactly when Ziinox started tryharding by looking at his points. Sometimes you tryhard and it takes a while for the skills and results to show. Any professional athlete can tell you about that
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Rockus
only speak to adc mains
Grey screen mains
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Krumplee
Bro do u realize that you are proving our point now
i was literally using his logic to attack him
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@Andrew~ ya e creado un tiked que hago ahora?
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how is it hard ot understand that
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saºkura
@Andrew~ ya e creado un tiked que hago ahora?
explica la situacion
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I mean, Rockus telling one of the best players in KoG history that he's trash is just foolish. But, it's online gaming banter, nothing that you need to take serious. Also there is no way to know exactly when Ziinox started tryharding by looking at his points. Sometimes you tryhard and it takes a while for the skills and results to show. Any professional athlete can tell you about that
you have to take this serious
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How about this
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You all suck
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get it over with
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ye i wouldn't get the ranks on those maps, im not good enough yet i know
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por aqui o puede que por privado
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saºkura
por aqui o puede que por privado
en lo tiquet
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still, mixi's trash considering he's been playing this gamemode for years uk
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if trash can make over 30 r1s without tryharding then something is wrong
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Rockus
still, mixi's trash considering he's been playing this gamemode for years uk
XD
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lets call all players with less than 30 r1s trash ok?
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I mean, if someone plays 2 hours every Christmas since 2010, as a tradition, they've technically been playing for 12.5 years. That doesn't mean that much. It's time spent, and how regularly it is that matters most
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by rockus logic
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If you play 10 hours, every day, for a year. You will have more play time than some people that play for 5+ years. So it's not really relevant when they started
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Bʟυɛ ♡
If you play 10 hours, every day, for a year. You will have more play time than some people that play for 5+ years. So it's not really relevant when they started
ye i understand, but is that really mixi's case?
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yes look at my points graph
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Im not playing 8 years without any breaks
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even with breaks
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what do you want to prove wit hthat
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its not that much for 8 years
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that's due to finished maps
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if im not mistaken, its the sum of all the minutes of ur finishes
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I dont have any other statistics
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it's not taking in account the hours you spent without finishing (edited)
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anyways, your top partner is migget
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nothing else to say (edited)
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ye go on and insult everyone else now
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its meme
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I was lucky that he carried me on all insane maps
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because Im trash
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but I can tell you, if I tried playing with mouse hook you wouldnt be able to reach my skill in your whole life @Rockus (edited)
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Mixi
but I can tell you, if I tried playing with mouse hook you wouldnt be able to reach my skill in your whole life @Rockus (edited)
Another hypothetical, can't say this for sure
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No mater how likely it might be, there is no telling
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And this debate is starting to feel like a never ending loop where you eventually just find a new target or point to argue about. Can you reach a point of conclusion and stop going on tangents?
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Mixi
but I can tell you, if I tried playing with mouse hook you wouldnt be able to reach my skill in your whole life @Rockus (edited)
go ahead
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nothing stops you from buying a mouse and a keyboard right
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you chose those binds
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if you think those binds are capping you
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And this debate is starting to feel like a never ending loop where you eventually just find a new target or point to argue about. Can you reach a point of conclusion and stop going on tangents?
ye, agreed
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i'll stop
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I still wonder how trash players can get over 30 r1s
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but I guess we wont find any answer
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maybe you know @Bʟυɛ ♡
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Depends on your definition of trash.
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nobody plays for r1s anymore
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end of debate
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Depends on your definition of trash.
99% of kog players by rockus definition
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Generally I wouldn't use that word as a description of another player, however if we translate it to "the bottom % of players" in terms of skill level. That isn't happening. However, it is definitely possible for someone of a "lesser skill level" than what you'd expect for a rank 1 to claim a number of rank 1's. There's two ways that immediately pops up in my mind. You could spend hours upon hours playing a really easy map and perfect a speedrun. Or, the second option, is to play a map that has a really bad rank 1, generally those would be relatively un-played or un-appreciated maps, for example, most of the MOD category (edited)
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Your discussion is quite useless since you are both toxic, but Imo adding a leaderboards or more importance to speedrun is quite a good idea
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Generally I wouldn't use that word as a description of another player, however if we translate it to "the bottom % of players" in terms of skill level. That isn't happening. However, it is definitely possible for someone of a "lesser skill level" than what you'd expect for a rank 1 to claim a number of rank 1's. There's two ways that immediately pops up in my mind. You could spend hours upon hours playing a really easy map and perfect a speedrun. Or, the second option, is to play a map that has a really bad rank 1, generally those would be relatively un-played or un-appreciated maps, for example, most of the MOD category (edited)
hmmmm, 100% of mixi's r1 fit on that description
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Your discussion is quite useless since you are both toxic, but Imo adding a leaderboards or more importance to speedrun is quite a good idea
that's where it all started
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i think it would boost player skill on kog
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tbh
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Maybe people don’t speedrun because the majority focus on point
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having something to fight for other than simply finishing maps
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Rockus
hmmmm, 100% of mixi's r1 fit on that description
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cope more
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pvp system worked fine
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ƒirewave
Maybe people don’t speedrun because the majority focus on point
ye, but i believe thjat might be due to speedrunning leaderboards not existing
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or anything that helps speedrunners or rewards them
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you know
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and still nobody tryharder r1s lol
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Back in past nobody were speed running on ddnet, in some hours r1s were easy reachable even for me
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i swear, people seeing a leaderboard where ziinox is top1 would make them want to start getting ranks, improving old rank 1s
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its just like ddnet
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it's a cycle
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Now the battle for r1s is incredible
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rockus you know that
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most ziinox r1 arent good runs
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you can ask him
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2023 kog drama ☺️ 2020 kog drama 👿
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ƒirewave
Now the battle for r1s is incredible
ye, goat is still top5 teamrank
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It might motivate people to try and claim them (rank 1's) yes, and I think absolutely no one has been against the idea, so far, about adding that to the KoG website. I had the most negative POV, when stating that it is probably not going to happen super soon, because there are some other major updates in line that might HAVE to go first before we can add new features. However, I want to be very clear on one thing. That is a hypothesis. It might be possible to just add it before any major core updates. Since I'm, as already mentioned, not super involved in the techy stuff nor the person responsible for making all this happen, I don't really know. I can only guess and estimate (edited)
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Mixi
you can ask him
he's a perfecionist
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so lets ask him
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if he thinks that his runs are perfect
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cuz I dont think so
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Mixi
most ziinox r1 arent good runs
i can confirm that lol
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but rockus will have his own opinon
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why most?
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are they really that bad?
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you're delusional
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ngl
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for me or some other speedrunner it will be bad
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for you might be good
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Most Ziinox runs aren't good runs is just wrong though
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They are great runs, incredibly even, most of them
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@Rockus ur the reason im losing
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Can he do better? Is he satisfied? Completely different question
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Most Ziinox runs aren't good runs is just wrong though
like, if he was talking about the perspective that ofc gores runs can be improved in tremendous ways
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But to say that they aren't good, that's stupid
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but no, he's just talking out of his ass
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like even @nEProiect confirmed ziinox r1s arent that good
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Mixi
most ziinox r1 arent good runs
True like most of r1. If you compare run in ddrace and gores, you can notice that ddrace it’s close to perfection, on gores I almost never seen a speedrun with full swing and speed
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@Mixi do you think aip gores r1 is good right now?
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if he said it then it must be true
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True like most of r1. If you compare run in ddrace and gores, you can notice that ddrace it’s close to perfection, on gores I almost never seen a speedrun with full swing and speed
exactly, there is no way te be perfect in gores
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True like most of r1. If you compare run in ddrace and gores, you can notice that ddrace it’s close to perfection, on gores I almost never seen a speedrun with full swing and speed
exactly, but eveni f you're far from perfection does that make it bad run?
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like wth
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i simply don't understand that argument
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ofc in gores you can make many micro improvements
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you said he is perfectionist
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Depends on your perspective. From his perspective? Maybe that was only 60% of his capacity. So it might not seem great for him. But to the rest of the KoG scene, the entire community? 95% of players will probably never be close to doing his "bad" runs
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ye, by his standards they might not be good
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because he sees a lot of mistakes
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they're still good af
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It’s only question of time you spend on map, you can always go faster, but for each swing you do, you can add hours to your run to be done
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whatever man
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mixi always saying he's good af, but ranks speak for themselves
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i'd really like to see the list of rank 1s he has
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how many insanes are in that list
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i dont think mixi is talking how good he is lol
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if he's such a good player
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imo he is saying exact opposite xd
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and how many insanes are r1 solo
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?
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I can tell that Im nowhere near
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in insane speedrunning
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to ziinox and other ppl
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exactly, but eveni f you're far from perfection does that make it bad run?
I mean old ddrace rank wasn’t called bad. For me it doesn’t mean ziinox rank are bad. Since nobody try to beat it with swing, it still good
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I mean old ddrace rank wasn’t called bad. For me it doesn’t mean ziinox rank are bad. Since nobody try to beat it with swing, it still good
ye i get it, but no need to invalidate his ranks
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Rockus
how many insanes are in that list
now you are also neglecting skill of people that played with ziinox, for example shayze which is insane player
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Mixi
now you are also neglecting skill of people that played with ziinox, for example shayze which is insane player
what
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you talk about r1 insanes
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i was talking about the list of your ranks
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most of them arent solo
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your ranks
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Yea but you guys are focus on useless things, we don’t care about ego and who are trash or not (edited)
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not everyoen's
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I just told you
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most of my r1s are solo runs
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ƒirewave
Yea but you guys are focus on useless things, we don’t care about ego and who are trash or not (edited)
you're right
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Mixi
most of my r1s are solo runs
on oldschool maps (edited)
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anyways
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oldschool?
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But I fully agree on making speedrun more valuable than now
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some of them maybe but what
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people cant play oldschool maps
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ƒirewave
But I fully agree on making speedrun more valuable than now
thank you
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i think the community would get better with that
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I have r1s on new maps also
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maybe even attract more people to kog
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still bad?
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tell me
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it's just a suggestion anyways
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Mixi
still bad?
stop trying to prove you're not bad when you are
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it's undeniable
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Rockus
it's just a suggestion anyways
No one said anything negative regarding that suggestion
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Rockus
stop trying to prove you're not bad when you are
xd
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Bʟυɛ ♡
No one said anything negative regarding that suggestion
ye, but the topic keeps getting diverted
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Rockus
stop trying to prove you're not bad when you are
And he's not bad. He's still one of the best players KoG has had
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Rockus
stop trying to prove you're not bad when you are
if Im bad how I should describe you
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in your terminology
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Bʟυɛ ♡
And he's not bad. He's still one of the best players KoG has had
back in 2020 maybe when only polihs people played XD
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Rockus
stop trying to prove you're not bad when you are
going beast mode (edited)
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GG @macaron756, you just advanced to level 5 !
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Mixi
in your terminology
the goat
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@Mixi you like speedrun why wouldn’t you improvement to get more people on it ?
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macaron756
going beast mode (edited)
hola marica
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Is he currently considered as one of the "pros" active. I don't know. Is he still in the top% of all players ever? yeah (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Is he currently considered as one of the "pros" active. I don't know. Is he still in the top% of all players ever? yeah (edited)
is he even? i think people reached his skill in 1 year or less
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Maybe they did, but there's a lot of people who have played this game
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ye, he distinguished himself by getting rank 1 on chillerdragores
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Anyway more than ddrace, connection and set up means a lot on gores xd
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I mean I'm not very good. I'm a decent KoG player, I fit in the KoG clan but not much else, that's where I belong. But even I are in a top % if you count all players
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ƒirewave
Anyway more than ddrace, connection and set up means a lot on gores xd
connection and set up?
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i dont think reaching Mixi level is easy
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or he would be trash player
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Rockus
ye, he distinguished himself by getting rank 1 on chillerdragores
but I have 2 chillerdragores r1s
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Like, I can solo easiest insane maybe. Most people are stuck on mains
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what about rest
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Get a good connection, 144hz and a curve monitor and that’s all
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nEProiect
i dont think reaching Mixi level is easy
it's not easy, but he's not as good as he thinks he is in my opiniojn
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but that's another topic
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Rockus
it's not easy, but he's not as good as he thinks he is in my opiniojn
ye bcs he is inactive lol
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ƒirewave
Get a good connection, 144hz and a curve monitor and that’s all
its like saying "just dont lag"
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How many active players are there?
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Rockus
it's not easy, but he's not as good as he thinks he is in my opiniojn
That might be true, but I don't think that he thinks he is as good as you think that he thinks
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Yoin
How many active players are there?
not much
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ƒirewave
Get a good connection, 144hz and a curve monitor and that’s all
not really
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but ye, good monitor helps a lot
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specially for tiny hooks
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nEProiect
ye bcs he is inactive lol
I actually found a solution to that, I moved country
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Bʟυɛ ♡
That might be true, but I don't think that he thinks he is as good as you think that he thinks
Have fun deciphering that one 😄
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Bʟυɛ ♡
That might be true, but I don't think that he thinks he is as good as you think that he thinks
i think his ego really high
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Yoin
I actually found a solution to that, I moved country
how easy is that for everybody right?
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true right now I might be trash cuz Im not active
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Rockus
i think his ego really high
Yes, that might be true. I'm not taking a stance here, but I think that you might be overestimating what he thinks and where his ego lies
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bro you STILL ON THIS SHT
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but 1-2 years ago I considered myself as a good player
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You're focusing on this quite a lot
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Yes, that might be true. I'm not taking a stance here, but I think that you might be overestimating what he thinks and where his ego lies
it's fifty fifty XD
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maybe or maybe not
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@Rockus man stop speaking
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go on with my r1s
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no need
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Tyrone
@Rockus man stop speaking
i'm typing
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stop typing
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cuz we might run into map that someone like ziinox also played
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or what
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?
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what would i prove by beating ur ranks?
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Dam you guys still on this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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what is this nerd chatting
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stop nerding guys
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@Bʟυɛ ♡ should we move to offtopic
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Shoyo
stop nerding guys
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why would we, we talk about kog stuff
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@Mixi Best player after me
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mixi do you agree we should highlight more speedrunning in kog?
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nEProiect
its like saying "just dont lag"
Fr I tried quite bad set up (laptop 60hz + 4g connection on a little table). It was possible in the past to be better than the average, I don’t think it’s possible anymore
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you should not me
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Rockus
mixi do you agree we should highlight more speedrunning in kog?
Bruh, why are you even talking to mixi about this
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I already tried in the past
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Ondis
Bruh, why are you even talking to mixi about this
Because it’s should be the main topic of the discussion ?
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Mixi
you should not me
i mean do you agree kog should take some stance in speedrunning and actually give it some
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showing
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idk the word
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ƒirewave
Fr I tried quite bad set up (laptop 60hz + 4g connection on a little table). It was possible in the past to be better than the average, I don’t think it’s possible anymore
i play on 60hz 5 years old monitor which has fcked up pixels i dont even have mechanical keyboard i used genius netscroll 120 mouse (got new mouse 2 months ago) and i dont even play on cable
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if "top" speedrunners want it then yea
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if they dont need it why would anyone bother
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nEProiect
i play on 60hz 5 years old monitor which has fcked up pixels i dont even have mechanical keyboard i used genius netscroll 120 mouse (got new mouse 2 months ago) and i dont even play on cable
not playing on cable is a crime ngl
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a cable is 10 euros
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make yourself that favour
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and im still better than 90% of pros imo
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Mixi
if "top" speedrunners want it then yea
why if "top"
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Aren't everyone able to send in their highlights to discord? Like has any "speedrunner" had their highlights declined or?
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nEProiect
i play on 60hz 5 years old monitor which has fcked up pixels i dont even have mechanical keyboard i used genius netscroll 120 mouse (got new mouse 2 months ago) and i dont even play on cable
Change setup and you are the new ziinox (edited)
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not playing on cable is a crime ngl
not that easy
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i think it is a great addition to draw more players into kog too
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Go speedrun a map and add it to the highlights
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nEProiect
not that easy
it's literally cancer to play 5g (edited)
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ƒirewave
Change setup and you are the new ziinox (edited)
even if i had best setup i wont be way better bcs i almsot dont play
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Rockus
it's literally cancer to play 5g (edited)
ye i play like that all the time lol
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most of people that played to get r1s didnt care about getting some new rank systems especially for speedrunning so whats the point
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you have kof site right now and its enough imo
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just implement it maybe to kog site and all good
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nEProiect
even if i had best setup i wont be way better bcs i almsot dont play
i think monitor caps some skills in kog like tiny hooks so maybe getting a 240hz monitor would make you better in that. not syaing you're not good at it, but maybe an improvement would appear
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Mixi
most of people that played to get r1s didnt care about getting some new rank systems especially for speedrunning so whats the point
And if a system bring more player on it ?
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Rockus
@Bʟυɛ ♡ should we move to offtopic
I feel like the conversation should end or move to DM's rather than off-topic. It's kind of overdue
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Mixi
just implement it maybe to kog site and all good
but considering they're rebuilding kog, probably rebuilding the database, they could easily make that
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And if a system bring more player on it ?
blue would say, its just a speculation
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Mixi
if "top" speedrunners want it then yea
Can't only think about best players, gotta think about the entire community
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dead game anyways
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60hz laptop on tiny table best way to play
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nobody is playing anymore
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Rockus
i think monitor caps some skills in kog like tiny hooks so maybe getting a 240hz monitor would make you better in that. not syaing you're not good at it, but maybe an improvement would appear
It’s a fact, look at pro player setup up and look at average player set up
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nEProiect
nobody is playing anymore
i know that feeling, but believe me that people are still playing, just not the oldschool people
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Can't only think about best players, gotta think about the entire community
from what I've seen for a long time there werent much people really playing solo and trying to speedrun somehow
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it's the same on ddnet
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ƒirewave
It’s a fact, look at pro player setup up and look at average player set up
ye exactly
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other than top players
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Rockus
i know that feeling, but believe me that people are still playing, just not the oldschool people
ye i meant old ppl mb
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other than top players
but maybe the leaderboard would change that that's what i'm trying to say
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Tr community always online
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blue would say, its just a speculation
Yes maybe it wouldn’t but I don’t see any bad aspect on trying it. The worse happens would be it’s useless
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ofc its a maybe
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but you wouldn't lose anything in trying
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blue would say, its just a speculation
Yes but other players find it interesting to look at these stats and compare and maybe put a goal towards/because of them. Same reaction people have to points, it has no real negative effect as far as I can see and it will most likely bring more attention to speedrunning and to KoG in general (edited)
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who cared about old ranks leaderboard?
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@ƒirewave whatsup
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Yes but other players find it interesting to look at these stats and compare and maybe put a goal towards/because of them. Same reaction people have to points, it has no real negative effect as far as I can see and it will most likely bring more attention to speedrunning and to KoG in general (edited)
that's exactly it
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thanks for explaining it
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when i was active ddracer i loved to check speedrunners stats, their ranks and stuff
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But, that being said. It's not something that we absolutely cannot live without, so it might not be top of the list priority
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GG @Bʟυɛ ♡, you just advanced to level 25 !
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and i bet many speedrunners also do
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As I've mentioned a few times
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Bʟυɛ ♡
But, that being said. It's not something that we absolutely cannot live without, so it might not be top of the list priority
ye, i see
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something that didnt work in the past was just deleted
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did you have speedrunning leaderboard in the past in kog?
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you dont know?
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no way
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i remember the old website
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did you have speedrunning leaderboard in the past in kog?
Yes?
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xd
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Just don't want it to seem like it's definitely going to happen soon since a mod thought it was a good idea. In the end, there's a discussion to be had about this, wager in time to build/maintain this program, what benefits does it have, what negative side effects might it bring etc. But as a suggestion, it's a really good one.
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@ƒirewave
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nEProiect
Yes?
how was it? i don't remember checking it
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maybe it's hidden in my memories XD
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whats ur opinion on that
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Imo it was good
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could be adjusted a bit now but was good ye
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@ƒirewave whatsup
I came back to my study town then no more tw for me I’m crying rn and what about you ? 😸
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streaming league to everyone in voice
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azir gaming
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Just don't want it to seem like it's definitely going to happen soon since a mod thought it was a good idea. In the end, there's a discussion to be had about this, wager in time to build/maintain this program, what benefits does it have, what negative side effects might it bring etc. But as a suggestion, it's a really good one.
Its very easy to export the stats to the stats that already exist and just add a new table, big thing is just to agree on it between the guys who run the two websites
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Mixi
could be adjusted a bit now but was good ye
Yes true I never heard why it has been deleted
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Its very easy to export the stats to the stats that already exist and just add a new table, big thing is just to agree on it between the guys who run the two websites
Sure but if it's data transmitted automatically we want it to work with the new core that's being implemented, and if we make the website update now, maybe it won't work together with it later on when the core is updated. It depends on how it fits in with the entire scheme of things (edited)
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I mean, just having a stat table doesn't sound that complicated
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ye for sure
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website is kinda buggy, is the source code public?
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And the only one that really knows this for sure (as far as I know) is Avo, so can't really promise or do much without his POV.
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website is kinda buggy, is the source code public?
I don't think so, that's been in discussion before, Mixi probably knows. But the website is also something (I think?) that is going to be changed with core updates (edited)
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I mean, for now it works. It loads slowly but in the end, it does its job. Unless it's broken I'm not sure Avo is spending time to upgrade it, since it might get scrapped for an entire new one later on (edited)
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So from my perspective (as a trash player), you already had speedrun leaderboard system which was kinda ok (was working like you could get from 1 to 100 points for each map meaning 1 is for r1, less points you had in total the higher you were in leaderboard), it was a bit problematic cuz it needed server restarts or smth to refresh all data, anyway I think that nobody cared about it, like it was next to other statistics (fixed points, season points etc). When it disappeard it looked like nobody noticed and cared about it. I can tell you that much more players speedrunned back then (even if their level was much lower)
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Mixi
So from my perspective (as a trash player), you already had speedrun leaderboard system which was kinda ok (was working like you could get from 1 to 100 points for each map meaning 1 is for r1, less points you had in total the higher you were in leaderboard), it was a bit problematic cuz it needed server restarts or smth to refresh all data, anyway I think that nobody cared about it, like it was next to other statistics (fixed points, season points etc). When it disappeard it looked like nobody noticed and cared about it. I can tell you that much more players speedrunned back then (even if their level was much lower)
Doesn't really need to be a points system. You could just have a list of speedrunning stats like the one KOF has and maybe some more stats with it.
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so I said earlier, just implement kof stats to kog site
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^Yeah, that's most likely very do-able
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@Bʟυɛ ♡ do you have any estimation for me how many packets and what size packets get sent for the kog servers every second?
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I don’t know, maybe there is a way to make it more rewarding
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Might also be cool to see some % stat like, who has best rank 1 in comparison to other ranks on the same map. As in, person A has a rank 1 that is 16% faster than rank 2 on that map, but on this map we have a rank 1 that is 28% faster than rank 2!! That sounds interesting too, but it might be very hard to calculate and implement into some system
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ƒirewave
I don’t know, maybe there is a way to make it more rewarding
is point system for finishing map rewarding?
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Mixi
is point system for finishing map rewarding?
Most people would agree, I think. But, I'm not sure the top % care. At a certain point you care more about finishing all maps, as a completionist, rather than getting the points
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And all maps as in all insanes/extremes
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Some don't care at all about lower maps, especially if they changed name in past or started at a high skill level (maybe migrated from ddnet) (edited)
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I personally love speedrun and I get rarely rank because I search perfection. But if I see more and more people tryhard the same map as me. It would be challenging and I’m sure it’s the way you need to go to bring more players
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But for the community as a whole I think the point system we have is a great one. Almost the same as ddrace's one, however it's more rewarding to finish a map again on KoG but season points differentiation to fixed points is important to have.
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Mixi
is point system for finishing map rewarding?
I don’t know, but for example discord system where you see all new best rank is a good way to go imo
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ƒirewave
I don’t know, but for example discord system where you see all new best rank is a good way to go imo
#records RIP
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ƒirewave
I don’t know, but for example discord system where you see all new best rank is a good way to go imo
idk you should just talk with avo maybe
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You don’t think it’s good ?
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We had one, #records used to be just that
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I'm not sure what happened or why it happened, but it's no longer functioning
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Yes and why it disappeared too ?
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But since it wasn't deleted from the discord I don't think it was intentional
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ƒirewave
You don’t think it’s good ?
records? was fine I guess
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@Rockus why ddrace speedrun became that important for the community ? I mean what done ddnet in the way ?
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They have nothing else to do, game-mode to ez so they had too speedrun to amuse themselves (edited)
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(For anyone not understanding sarcasm. My most recent message was intended as a joke, nothing should be taken too seriously about my comments)
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Too late ai
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Even bots are allowed to have fun sometimes 🙂
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We gonna unplug you
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I live on the world wide web baby, you un-plug me, you un-plug the world
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bro youre my world...
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komyu
bro youre my world...
bro... you're my world. And as the legend Louis Armstrong said himself, what a wonderful world.
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as he also said, I see skies of blue
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all I see is you bro
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"komyu"? no bro, "comehere" and give me a hug (edited)
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id give you a different word starting with h but thats for you n me only
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we'll talk about this alone
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komyu
we'll talk about this alone
Bro finna get a rizztraining order filed
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@Bʟυɛ ♡ how do you feel after todays drama
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There was drama?
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All I saw was entertainment
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I felt more like this
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ReallyMad
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I found it quite amusing for the most part, for the same reasons people like watching these "reality shows" on TV, I can watch you go at it here
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And feel better about myself 🙂
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xD
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🤦‍♂️
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was much more fun in the past
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like it lasted for days or even weeks
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But we're trying to keep it nice and tidy. You know, good vibes, inclusive, friendly, welcoming
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Maybe sometimes you miss out on those long fights because of this, but in the end, I think it's for the greater good
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A little give and take you know
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I felt like everyone was mad screaming at each other meanwhile you tried to calm everyone but no one was listening
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Maybe I completely mis-read the situation and should've taken more action... (edited)
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should have joined us in voice channel
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Oh, was it juicy in there?
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Mixi
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You did do some quality Mixi classics arguing
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it wasnt classic me
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Talking about something and you come in, guns blazing, but talking about something different
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So no one knew what was going on 😄
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It was hilarious to see it all unfold, 5 different people all talking about their own topics and no one listening to anyone else
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And I come in with the most neutral and kindergarten teacher statements like "I see your points and his points but we gotta remember..."
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#modlife
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and in the end we were arguing about something that we cant control
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And nothing even remotely close to what the original discussion was about
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Beautiful
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it always ends like that
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Did Tyrone manage to win his bronze 2 Azir mid game?
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bro first game I didnt even watch
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second he played panth top and it was pain to watch
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Mixi
it always ends like that
I mean that's online arguing in a nutshell. There's some steps you can take to prevent this but that's only for the most experience debate experts, I'd like to think I got some aces up my sleeve to prevent this. But I have to partake in the discussion actively to be able to implement them
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I was just enjoying the ride on this one 😄
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thats why its better to go on voice chat
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Corrupting potion Pant top, can he even lose early levels? Maybe vs Kled but who can beat him lv3?
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he was playing vs sion and couldnt even counter his q xd
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True but Sion is like S+++ tier in low ranks. It's like Yorick. It's not good because the champ is any good. It's only good because everyone they play against is stupid 😄
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Champs that have 55%+ winrate in low ranks but like 47% in dia+ (edited)
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but that sion wasnt playing bad
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hitting all q's and e
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good roams to mid with ult
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with tyrone the problem isnt knowing or not knowing champion, its about map awareness and controlling wave
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Yeah but, Sion shouldn't really be able to get that good roams with ult. I mean, a man is literally screaming in your ear every time he activates it. There's a bit of a heads-start. And not having vision or awareness is a part of being stoopid (edited)
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like if you play panth and dont roam single time you wont release full potential of this champion
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Recall, ult mid, get something, walk back top
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Got something top? Ult mid, recall walk back top
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Simple, but effective
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its not about mechanics its just about macro knowledge
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macro = brain
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Tyrone no brain
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I think we can all agree on that
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just gamba skills
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but its the same with teeworlds
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if you use your brain you can get even better
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Yeah, I rely on brain. I don't play enough nor as regularly as needed to improve fast anymore. But I can still be smart about how I play
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My micros could use some work, perhaps..
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But I prefer smart but not as good players in a team rather than someone really good but they play risky and/or stupid
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Rather do a hard part 3-4 times because we fail but we stay alive than to fail on an easy part because we didn't play smart of safe (edited)
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failing is art
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:31:23Z
its ok rockus
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i will take everysingle rank1
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reviving speedrunning
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all good
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Mixi
failing is art
I mean, you've played with Migget a lot. You probably know better than anyone else in this area (edited)
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its big trauma for me
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idk what to say
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No, but "failing is art" is true. Because you can fail in different ways. You can do a part in a "harder" or "weirder" way but doing it that way might mean you fail into a safer and more easily saved from area. Instead of going in, hoping you make it and if you fail, you can't be saved unless someone else manages to do the part
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ye like migget always failed in most random ways
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and its not something you can explain with rational thinking
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its just migget
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Yeah, I think I can recall seeing some utterly mind-boggling clips of this occuring
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we can say that Migget is ahead of everyone in failing
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or was?
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w/e
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I think Migget has reached such a universally agreed upon GOATed status in failing that we might skip the "it's hypothetical" part this time. And just go to IS.
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He IS ahead of everyone in that area
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and always will be
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Bawki on second place (edited)
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Bawki, there's a Migget style video of him
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Doing some Migget shenanigans
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US player though, so not as known
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But any other US player will agree, except maybe Bawki of course
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american migget I see
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:41:08Z
when people play kog for 500 hours (edited)
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they are playing on hards
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or maybe ins1
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migget was playing rog3
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ofc he will make macro game mistakes
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ozur let us meme
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Please, don't instigate another discussion
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I was just calming down, wanting to go to bed
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Don't put gasoline on the fire
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:42:03Z
i will.
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🔥
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I remember first rog3 finish where every team was so close of doing it, then migget suddenly came back from his teeworlds break and we finished with him first try
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:42:48Z
😈
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wrong channel
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mixi
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@ozurdılerım you know berk31?
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cuz he is turkish guy and insulted tyrone in voice chat 😢
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:44:32Z
😭
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no idk who he is
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thats so sad
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I thought its ur student
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:44:52Z
good analysis
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mixi
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but im not toxic
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:45:29Z
: you are being annyoing and rude jsut because you got "fame" by getting mod in your head : stop this attitude
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rate this analyis
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analysis
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he might be onto something..
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Here I am, I've always been annoying. Ain't no mod status going to change that, hehe
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But I wouldn't call myself rude. I think I'm doing good on that part
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Bʟυɛ ♡
But I wouldn't call myself rude. I think I'm doing good on that part
ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:48:08Z
why do u talk like that
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do u think u are above me
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Yes, I am
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:48:23Z
uh
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If we're speaking geographically
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:48:29Z
😈
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I'm situated in Sweden, which is north of you
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North generally being refered to as up, therefor I am "above you"
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🙂
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^See this is why I think people might find me annoying
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:49:34Z
thats nice
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learnt one more
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information about u
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to assist my man hunt
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That I lived in Sweden?
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That was pretty well documented before...
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:50:16Z
i am just saying.
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every bit of knowledge that u accidently leak
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will assist me
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slowly to reach you
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thats scary
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Hey, you might not be the fastest or most efficient detective but I guess you detected something...?
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I don't know, I wanted it to sound positive but couldn't really find a spin on it
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:51:15Z
all of your ping numbers in different servers are already documented by me
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for general location analysis
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😊
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Well, it might disrupt your general idea of my whereabouts if you found out that I had..... 2 homes?!
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:52:19Z
thats one more information
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Well, would you be more surpised if I told you that my last statement was.... A LIE?!?
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Dun dun dun!!!
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Now he doesn't know what to think!
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:53:12Z
i do...
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i will ask chat gpt
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Huh... I thought my expert distraction and divertion maneuvres would confuse you...
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:54:17Z
ok now the next step
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should be
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joining sweden goverment
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according to chatgpt
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this looks like would be fasteest way to find blue
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I think there are better ways
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:55:11Z
i dont trust you
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Chat GPT is known, in the AI community, as somewhat of a "nimwit". You know, a lot of words but not as much action.... in the 'brain' (edited)
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:56:15Z
lol
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So, you can follow his advice all you want, but, just remember, if he said it, it's not that smart (edited)
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ozurdılerım 2023-04-29 23:57:50Z
speaking hypothetically
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if i managed to sneak into sweden goverment
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i would have a good chance of finding you
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EARTHQUAKE 1
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🤓
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Well, since data about citizens in Sweden is public info. You'd really need a lot less effort to actually find someone, at least not someone who is trying to hide. (edited)
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