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Between 2022-09-11 00:00:00Z and 2022-09-12 00:00:00Z
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Yo some dude
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with a sick record
01:20
just entered a map im in
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LOL
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and when he entered
01:20
it said
01:20
"King of gores entered"
01:21
Does it mean this dude is the greatest for the season? 😄
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pro samu helper mod he's the best
01:29
he got 5 star from me
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Ondis
Does it mean this dude is the greatest for the season? 😄
It means he's a giga chad
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he's the coolest mod samu
01:42
I give him 5 star
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Apostle
It means he's a giga chad
saw some dude enter named Queen of Kog too haha
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01:48
Was @Quinn here
01:48
Maybe all the mods have custom titles or something
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king or queen is for kog members in general, anything else is for kog members in top 50 who requested a special tag
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Talk about ego tripping 😛
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GG @Ondis, you just advanced to level 4 !
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Quinn
king or queen is for kog members in general, anything else is for kog members in top 50 who requested a special tag
and how to join kog?
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but thanks for the infoz
01:52
you gotta be a bit of a pr0
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I dont see much pros there
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01:52
but ok
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I think it has something to do with leaderboard placement or collecting points orsomething
01:54
but they canprobablyexplain itb etter
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its in #info
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this info is useless
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01:55
anyway
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how come? She´s right dude, its right there now that look. TOp 200
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yeah "be friendly and polite"
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01:56
but kog looks like place for toxic people
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Why u want to join then lol
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where did I say that I want to join?
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So youre just asking irrelevant questions which dont affect you
01:58
Whatever man;O
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kog as a clan ended in 2019
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01:58
now its just a joke
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it's not nice to belittle the purpose of others
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I wanna make a 9/11 joke.
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GG @Jaych, you just advanced to level 1 !
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But i dont wanna get banned
04:26
So therefore.
04:26
I will not
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Mixi such a silly octopus
fv 2
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Facts
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 06:23:04Z
mixi doesn't deserve hate
06:25
tbh he is talking truth there are not many pros in KoG clan atm
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Most kog players duod and triod to t200... A very small amount got most clears from t0. And for the pros that don't clear mains so they have no points, that's on them xd
07:01
Not sure on the 'many' that don't deserve that spot
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Apostle
Most kog players duod and triod to t200... A very small amount got most clears from t0. And for the pros that don't clear mains so they have no points, that's on them xd
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 07:09:19Z
ik that many players get to top 200 by team playing but if you have passed some hards in duo trio it doesn't make you pro
07:13
you may look at my profile on the site and see that i have almost 150 ranks with my friend and im in top200 but if you see how im playing you won't say that im pro
07:14
im simple player that can play 90% of hards in duo trio easily but i don't think that i deserve to be in KoG
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07:14
i don't talk about others
07:16
everyone has their own opinion about themselves and thing that they deserve
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Apostle
Most kog players duod and triod to t200... A very small amount got most clears from t0. And for the pros that don't clear mains so they have no points, that's on them xd
it might change in the future, harder maps will be worth more points. the leaderboard may end up changed
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too short for touching sky
im simple player that can play 90% of hards in duo trio easily but i don't think that i deserve to be in KoG
kog clan has no much to do with the level of the players tho. if you're in the leaderboard you can apply and probably pass depending on your reputation
08:43
kog clan has never really been a clan of the best players. it started with qshar and his friends and then grew with the condition of having collected a lot of points on this mode (which means active players rather than skilled ones since the gap of points between difficulties was purposely very small, even overlapping)
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too short for touching sky
im simple player that can play 90% of hards in duo trio easily but i don't think that i deserve to be in KoG
i dont think 90% of players can duo/trio most hards, so if you can do that I think thats notable of some accomplishment.
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then rename to Friends of Gores. FoG sounds cool (edited)
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ipoopi
then rename to Friends of Gores. FoG sounds cool (edited)
do it yourself
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idk if i have the authority to rename a clan that i dont even belong to
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idk if i have the authority to rename a clan even if i belong to
08:52
nowadays its easier to get into top 200 because there are so many easy maps, mains and hards so if you play enough you can get a lot of points. and a lot of pros dont really do that and just play insanes and they free up the leaderboard spots for others. also i feel like the difference in skill between top 10 and top 200 is much higher than it used to be. maybe the requirement would have to be made more strict to adapt to the current times but i doubt anyone from the kog team cares about that
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it already went from 500 to 200 but points (in the current rating system) are not relevant to judge of the skill anyway. btw if there are more ez and main maps, it's because noobs can't map insane (or it only awful maps) we recommand to the new mapper to make maps they can play on. So there won't be much insane in the future if old mappers are not making new maps, pros player still not willing to get into mapping and new mapper making ez ones. that probably won't change tho. Mixi already worked on a new rating system which can handle this issue by reducing gap and overlapping points and give way more points for finishing insane maps. beside of that, idk if kog clan has to recruit only the best player. i think it has never been intended to be like this. qshar wanted to gives a good amount of points for main in order to get mostly active players in a continuously refreshing leaderboard instead of a static list of ancient pro. things will change now with this rerating and let's see how it turns (edited)
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ipoopi
nowadays its easier to get into top 200 because there are so many easy maps, mains and hards so if you play enough you can get a lot of points. and a lot of pros dont really do that and just play insanes and they free up the leaderboard spots for others. also i feel like the difference in skill between top 10 and top 200 is much higher than it used to be. maybe the requirement would have to be made more strict to adapt to the current times but i doubt anyone from the kog team cares about that
What are you talking about. The share of hard and insane maps to the overall map pool increased compared to 3+ years ago.
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i wasnt saying anything about the ratio. there are also more hards and insanes too but more maps in general favour players that play a lot and farm fixed points
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Bring back rank points would be nice
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if everyone cared about fixed points then the leaderboards would work since everyone would have all the maps that are easy for them completed. maybe a weighted system kind of like in osu would work better where your hardest map finish would give 100% of the points that it's supposed to give and the easier maps would give less and less. so eg. your top 5 hardest map finishes would be like 50% of your total point count (numbers could be changed)
09:19
that would work even better with the new difficulty above insane
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Big brain ipoopi president of gores please TURKIES
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idk how it could be set up or received by the community but it's actually an interesting idea
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And how u decide which are the hardest maps
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With source: trust me bro
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by the amount of points it gives. would mean that how much you gain from certain maps would need to be more thought out. but idk how would mod maps fit into that
09:30
wdym by source. its an idea, not a proof that it would be better
09:31
although it works in osu. and osu also used to have a system that just gave more points the more maps you played which was changed to a weighted system
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But that wouldnt make the leaderboard work u can still get carried through all insanes and have high rank without being good xd
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yes extrime and migget would still be top 5 or something but it would still be better
09:34
on the hardest maps you cant really afford to bring a worse player to carry them so it wouldnt really work on the top of the leaderboard
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That happens pretty often xd
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maybe some another weighted system on top of that that rewards you for playing with people lower ranked than you and punishes for playing with higher ranked ppl, idk
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Just rankpoints feelsgoodman feelsgoodman
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at least 90% of ppl dont like speedrunning
09:36
or at least prefer playing harder maps but safer instead of easier maps but faster
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Dont like or cant speedrun
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yeah. usually cant speedrun if they dont enjoy it
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So lower rank on leaderboard would be deserved if other can do it
09:38
Cause both good enough to finish the map but 1 does it better feelssurprisedman
09:39
Nothing will change anyways gigachad
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that would just be speedrunning leaderboard
09:45
and that would still require even more grinding because instead of just finishing bad main maps you would have to speedrun every single one of them to have a good rank in the leaderboard (edited)
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But u cant get carried
09:50
Carried people ruin the leaderboard imo
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also possible to reward more points for maps that arent boatable and have harder parts where you're not really allowed to fail
09:51
in top 100 theres like maybe 5 carried ppl. most of the leaderboard inaccuracy comes from pros not wanting to grind fixed points, not from others getting carried
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im top 39 rn and i dont think ive ever been carried through a map. i dont really play with ppl that are much better than me. if i were ever carried then it was in a duo on a map that i could have easily finished in a bigger group anyway. and there are people that have less points than me but are better. but it happens because they all just dont want to farm fixed points or not play enough, not because i got carried.
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Nice ideas poopi, now lets wait for kog 2.0 🗿
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ipoopi
yes extrime and migget would still be top 5 or something but it would still be better
Extrime best player feelsstrangeman
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Extrime is r1 on the hardest gores maps like ring of gores 3 and square of gores 2, best player of all time. feelsbossman
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or maybe some mix of map finished and good ranks so lala and andrew arent out of top 200 despite having solo top 5 runs on a lot of hard maps
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So, Overall rank = map ranks(perhaps an avrg of all your ranks) × fixed points?
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Roadrunner
Carried people ruin the leaderboard imo
Why're you up there then WideHardo3
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Nitalp
Nice ideas poopi, now lets wait for kog 2.0 🗿
These people discussing like something will ever change 💀
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wait, 라라 is lala, right?
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Crispy
So, Overall rank = map ranks(perhaps an avrg of all your ranks) × fixed points?
definitely not an average of every rank. just something that counts only your best ranks. maybe also a weighted system where the best ranks give more. but imo its better without rank points overall. a lot of people dont care about ranks at all and they wouldnt like it if they suddenly had to. so depends on if ppl agree with roadrunner
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ipoopi
wait, 라라 is lala, right?
wait, no. someone said that it is but theyre 2 different ppl on the leaderboard so who is that. and what happened to lala
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Its Lala
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then why not just do a name change
10:29
did he do one already and had to wait?
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Idk but why would he change xd
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keep points i guess
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He did
10:30
He changed from Lala to chinese name
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and so ppl can see in #news that its the same person (edited)
10:30
i mean a name change eith points transfer
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Yes
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theres lala in top 100 and the korean lala in top 250
10:32
and no result if you search "lala" in #news (edited)
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@Roadrunner pepewithteddy
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라라 is lala but use both name like champloo with testosteron or roadrunner with yoc
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who's yoc?
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 10:39:07Z
reborn serverssssss
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ahl
라라 is lala but use both name like champloo with testosteron or roadrunner with yoc
but he doesnt use the name lala anymore
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Idk I’m not playing for some time but he change back sometimes (edited)
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Riod
@Roadrunner pepewithteddy
feelsamazingman
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checking leaderboard to find pro players 🤣 🤣 🤣
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lol what a little trolling of ilovefng and my innocent replies to him spawned. holy #hit some of you dudes take yourselves too seriously.
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hey any mod can confirm me?
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Krumplee
checking leaderboard to find pro players 🤣 🤣 🤣
😂
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Petel
hey any mod can confirm me?
no. sorry ask tomorrow
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мппаып
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Hello
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my friends
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Guys can someone fix KoG servers ? its crazy
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The only logical improvement to the point ranking system (That I can see) would be a crossover of your fixed points, your season points and some % increase/decrease on points depending on your rank on said specific map. (I.e. On Aip_Gores. Being top 1000 might give a small increase and being top 100 a further increase and top 50 even further and so on.) Fixed Points: It takes skill to finish maps. The more maps you CAN finish, the more skill you generally have, hence why Fixed points exists. If you choose to not finish a map, that is up to you. But, generally, more finished maps = more skilled player Season Points: If you finish a map again, you are rewarded for being active and not being a "one hit wonder". However, this is a map you have finished before and thus, your points are only seasonal = they can/will fall off. New (Potential) Addition: Obviously it requires skill to complete a map faster. Getting a Rank 1 on a map is notably harder than getting rank 250. This achievement could be rewarded. Of course you can grind a map for hours and hours on end, and then get a rank that might not realistically reflect on your actual skill level, however, I think this should be rewarded as well, since we've already established that activity is rewarded alongside skill. The point system is not there to ONLY reflect on your skill level. This is important to remember. It is supposed to reward activity too. Now, I'm not a member of KoG staff, but I can rather safely assume that they, of course, want their players to be as skilled as humanly possible. Alongside this, they also want a big player base, in which their players play a lot. For a community to not only survive but to even prosper, you need active members and growth (New members). Without either activity or growth, the community will eventually die. So for me it is just basic logic to reward this positive behaviour. KoG wants Skill & Activity, so they choose to reward this with the point system. (edited)
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15:49
Sorry for long text, here's a potato!
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make it look tasty and u'll be forgiven
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Bʟυɛ ♡
The only logical improvement to the point ranking system (That I can see) would be a crossover of your fixed points, your season points and some % increase/decrease on points depending on your rank on said specific map. (I.e. On Aip_Gores. Being top 1000 might give a small increase and being top 100 a further increase and top 50 even further and so on.) Fixed Points: It takes skill to finish maps. The more maps you CAN finish, the more skill you generally have, hence why Fixed points exists. If you choose to not finish a map, that is up to you. But, generally, more finished maps = more skilled player Season Points: If you finish a map again, you are rewarded for being active and not being a "one hit wonder". However, this is a map you have finished before and thus, your points are only seasonal = they can/will fall off. New (Potential) Addition: Obviously it requires skill to complete a map faster. Getting a Rank 1 on a map is notably harder than getting rank 250. This achievement could be rewarded. Of course you can grind a map for hours and hours on end, and then get a rank that might not realistically reflect on your actual skill level, however, I think this should be rewarded as well, since we've already established that activity is rewarded alongside skill. The point system is not there to ONLY reflect on your skill level. This is important to remember. It is supposed to reward activity too. Now, I'm not a member of KoG staff, but I can rather safely assume that they, of course, want their players to be as skilled as humanly possible. Alongside this, they also want a big player base, in which their players play a lot. For a community to not only survive but to even prosper, you need active members and growth (New members). Without either activity or growth, the community will eventually die. So for me it is just basic logic to reward this positive behaviour. KoG wants Skill & Activity, so they choose to reward this with the point system. (edited)
Exactly
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this ranking system was never meant to reflect skill of players
15:53
and it will never do it
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I think a system where the Top5 of the map is rewarded would be nice
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nice for what?
15:54
its useless
15:54
just bring back ranking points old system for speedruns
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and thats it
15:55
this isnt solo game and its not player vs player game, making other rankings is pointless
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Issue with the funding ? make bzolow to buy for 5$ i'm pretty sure you'll be able to sponsor servs for years danAmazing (edited)
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are there zcatrch server? i dont see anyone playing zcatch atm lol
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I think the same reasoning applies to the KoG clan (The arguments in my previous post). It was never meant to be exclusive for the best players. It was for the ones who are skilled, active AND willing to put down time in the commnity. Therefor, I can understand how the "older" pros might look at the clan now and just see a bunch of random players. But for the majority of players, the ones who still grind on main/hard and easier insane maps. They will look at the majority of the KoG clan and think. Yeah, those players deserve to be there. (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Sorry for long text, here's a potato!
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"It was never meant to be exclusive for the best players. It was for the ones who are skilled, active AND willing to put down time in the commnity."?
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Ellesse
are there zcatrch server? i dont see anyone playing zcatch atm lol
what's zcatch qtroll
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Beautemps
what's zcatch qtroll
grenade only
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laser only
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Were you in kog in the past?
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mixi can give game skins xxd
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who's mixi
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Mixi
"It was never meant to be exclusive for the best players. It was for the ones who are skilled, active AND willing to put down time in the commnity."?
Taking the information provided by others above. It started with Qshar and his friends, extended to a few other prominent members of the community and then evolved into what it was today.
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GG @Bʟυɛ ♡, you just advanced to level 6 !
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so you dont know anything but talk about it
16:04
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Mixi
"It was never meant to be exclusive for the best players. It was for the ones who are skilled, active AND willing to put down time in the commnity."?
you don't have to be the best to be skillful
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Taking the information provided by others above. It started with Qshar and his friends, extended to a few other prominent members of the community and then evolved into what it was today.
what it is today is a clan with none of the best players. as it always was
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IT ALWAYS WAS?
16:05
XDDD
16:05
you must be trolling
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ok but who's mixi. i'm rly wondering
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Mixi
IT ALWAYS WAS?
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 16:06:35Z
when super exclusive poland clan
16:06
and put extime there
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Mixi
so you dont know anything but talk about it
I don't assume that @Beautemps was lying about that information because if he was I'd expect someone else to correct him. So I went with that information, applied some commons sense and came with an argument.
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yeah listen to beautemps which isnt even old player
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Is he wrong, is it not how it started?
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i was born in 2020
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kog in 2015 or before idk
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but one thing is 100%sure points =/= skill
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if you consider kog from 2015, well yea most of members were pros back then
16:09
pro by standard of 2015
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Still the argument/point still stands. It's for the most active and prominent members of the community. If you are INCREDIBLY skilled but don't want to play easier maps nor want to participate in the KoG community clan, that is up to you. No one can force you to do that. But if you as a pro, leave your spot open for someone else, then someone else will take that spot. If all pros think like this, then obviously we are left with a clan that doesn't include the best players. This is not the fault of the new KoG members, nor KoG itself. It's the choice of said pros that lead to this result.
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Mixi
if you consider kog from 2015, well yea most of members were pros back then
tbh level increased a lot as i watched old videos and basically maps rating from 2015 so idk if ppl who were called pro can still be in regard of this (i mean some of them are still active and progressed a lot to what we can consider pro today) (edited)
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KOF
Extrime is r1 on the hardest gores maps like ring of gores 3 and square of gores 2, best player of all time. feelsbossman
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Still the argument/point still stands. It's for the most active and prominent members of the community. If you are INCREDIBLY skilled but don't want to play easier maps nor want to participate in the KoG community clan, that is up to you. No one can force you to do that. But if you as a pro, leave your spot open for someone else, then someone else will take that spot. If all pros think like this, then obviously we are left with a clan that doesn't include the best players. This is not the fault of the new KoG members, nor KoG itself. It's the choice of said pros that lead to this result.
1) they arent active 2) they dont care about community
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there were no pro in 2015
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point out kog member who did more for the community than me
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Mixi
point out kog member who did more for the community than me
qshar
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ez
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Why aren't you in the KoG clan?
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Why aren't you in the KoG clan?
he fails the vote
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Krumplee
checking leaderboard to find pro players 🤣 🤣 🤣
Sepahero :)
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I left it myself
16:13
same as other pro players
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Great. Then that is that. You chose to not be there. You left your spot, someone else will fill that spot. Not saying that they have done more for the community nor are better than you. They are just the next in line
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they arent doing anything for the community
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why should they ?
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its what blue said
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Just playing, is doing something for the community
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heh, yeah afaik kog members are likely to get kicked after being inactive for a while now
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Being active, following rules (majority of times) and representing the community in a positive way. Is to me, a GREAT way of being a part of an online community
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POSITIVE WAY
16:15
XDDDDDD
16:15
bro you live in another dimension or what
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I can agree with the fact that there might be too many and especially too many that haven't played in years. They could be removed from the clan. But by just being a good sport on severs, you are encouraging that behaviour to others
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just stop this trashtalk about behaving good I just cant listen to that
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Being active, following rules (majority of times) and representing the community in a positive way. Is to me, a GREAT way of being a part of an online community
this is not totally wrong tho. it's quiet often a pleasure to play with kog members in t0 or so. but it doesn't rly mean anything xd like many players are good guys and very active without being kog members
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I can name a couple of players that have done a lot for the community, just "raising" new players to learn how to act, behave and play around others. Not by using moderator tools nor by confronting anyone. Just being themselves and playing in a proper manner.
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ok name them
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Destro
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big boi
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mixi
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at least in the backstage *
16:20
good guy with the face of toxicity
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Im not toxic Im just honest and real
16:21
not twofaced like half of people here
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you're not but ppl who don't know u think you're toxic at first (edited)
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There are plenty of examples. I can go through a list of everyone I've ever played with and name multiple people that fit my description. But that doesn't add anything, it doesn't prove anything. I've named one, that's proof enough. They are there and they are helping the community, that is just a fact.
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Im waiting you said you can name them
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Mixi
Im waiting you said you can name them
go check their names on choinka
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after you fix gummi name
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The same goes for a lot of these KoG clan players, just saying "they don't do anything, they don't care" because they aren't as active on social media as others is just blatantly wrong and an insult
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i think i did, aswel as i fixed the quest but nobody uploaded the fixed version
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give their names
16:24
I think there is one guy in kog who did more than others I wonder if you will mention him
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Ky Ky !
16:25
he's the coolest guy out there
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I can mention a lot of players, making a full list of everyone will take time. I will forget a few and probably not reflect honestly on other regions outside of the EU. But making this list would take time, so this conversation would end.
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Bʟυɛ ♡
I can mention a lot of players, making a full list of everyone will take time. I will forget a few and probably not reflect honestly on other regions outside of the EU. But making this list would take time, so this conversation would end.
if you once do it, share it so that i won't struggle looking for names to put on a tournament map
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you said you can name some players now you are saying it would take too much time
16:26
XD!
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You want me to name all the players that fit my description, that is the problem. I can name people right now if you want that, but it won't be the most influential nor everyone. But it will include people I can think of just out of the back of my head (edited)
16:26
But I can start typing if that is what you want. (edited)
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ill start
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Mixi
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sync
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16:33
its starting to look more like list of most controversial people
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the community pushers
16:33
best ppl
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Destro, PeBox, Hiddentest, Syntax, Heyng, Secret, KingJulius, GoldDigga, Miiep¨*, Route66, Weedman, Waschlappen, Stonemin. These are the first few that I can think of
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some of those were so good
16:34
they got the moderator job once
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These are all players that do a lot for the community (in my opinion), by just being themselves.
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just a list of people you know and probably play with sometimes thats it xd
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but Heyng is cute
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ngl
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Let me join ger servers
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I have played with all of these, yes. It helps knowing how someone acts if you have actually encountered them.
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wow you need to meet people to get an accurate picture of how they act?
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didnt know that
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you dont
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just prejudge everyone
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works 100% of the time
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But as someone who plays on all EU servers and on all skill levels, I can honestly say, that I've seen these people a lot, and they are good people, very skilled too, that provide the server and community with a lot of good energy. Calm, friendly, helpful and in general, provide a pleasant gaming experience
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Smash
works 100% of the time
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Krumplee
wow you need to meet people to get an accurate picture of how they act?
Yeah, I don't really see how that was a good counter-argument from his side but I tried to answer it in a politically correct way.
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friendly doesnt mean they provide actual values to the community
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Krumplee
friendly doesnt mean they provide actual values to the community
they just play this game its enough to contribute from what he says
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Well, not quite
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playing game = doing something for community
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pplike
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Well, yes. In a sense.
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It's quite easy. If no one plays on the community servers, there is no community. So being a player is helping the community. Same as subscribing to a Youtuber, in a sense
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That being said, you don't necessarily add any values to the community just being there
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you are a part of the community if you are participating in community events
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which is playing on the servers in this scenario
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not helping it
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That's why I mentioned these specific players. I'd argue they provide the servers with a safe environment, they are fun to play with, but alongside that they are helpful to beginners and intermediate players. What is especially important about these players is that they are players that others look up to. Seeing how these people act, with how many others who look up to them is adding great value to the community.
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So kog should award me for all time that I spent playing on kog servers
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If the people you look up to are acting well, are being helpful and are following the rules. I'd argue you are more likely to do the same
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what exactly are we discussing now
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i lost track
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its just funny
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playing on servers = contributing to community
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but for that to happen
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we need stable servers
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Playing is contrubiuing for the game
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Well, @Mixi It's quite simple. If no one played on the servers. There wouldn't be any, they would be shut down. Hence, the community would die. If you play, without ever speaking nor contributing outside of the simple fact that you play on the servers. You are still helping the servers stay afloat, by showing that there is interest in this community
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Now, a community wouldn't survive if that is the ONLY thing people do. We need some social interaction, some governing body and infrastructure
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but that does go for everyone
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as long as they play
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so what's the point here
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i dont get it
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So people that play and contribute in OTHER ways are obviously MORE helpful. I never said they weren't
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so sp someone was contributing to the community by that logic
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But if you are one of those who "just play" but you also do that whilst following rules, being helpful and friendly and supportive. You will create a good environment as well as foster/raise the newer people into also doing that.
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Therefor you are being more helpful to the server than other people
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 16:55:19Z
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all good
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but why are you telling us this
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????
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bully noobs so they will work hard to get better f3
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Then there are moderators, community members, admins etc. They have a bigger role in this and obviously share a more important position.
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nobody cares about them anyway
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Moderators
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always ragequitting moderator -> helping to build the community 👍
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so sp someone was contributing to the community by that logic
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it looks like description of me
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So, this all goes back to the conversation we had before. Where you said that the KoG clan is useless and provide nothing and they don't care. While that is true for some members, nothing is ever perfect, many of the people you dismiss as randoms actually provide the community with some of the effects a moderator have
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So, this all goes back to the conversation we had before. Where you said that the KoG clan is useless and provide nothing and they don't care. While that is true for some members, nothing is ever perfect, many of the people you dismiss as randoms actually provide the community with some of the effects a moderator have
just look up at the list of ppl you named. There're more people not in KoG than there're being in
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A moderator is someone who is there to control, enlighten and also punish people. If someone else have raised these newer people to just act in a manner that is deemed ok by KoG standards. They are being helpful to the community
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well he created a great calm place with crashing the servers
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but who is he talking to
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never heard something so wrong
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xdd
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@Smash That is outside of the point. He just said name people that fit my description, and I did. Being in KoG or not wasn't part of the equation for that statement. I just denied his statement that you can't be important/helpful to a community by just playing and being yourself
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but KoG clan is useless
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everything you say is different from reality
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Being in kog might imply you’re above average on some days, it doesn’t take an extraordinary amount of skill it just takes time
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not wanna be rude here
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being in kog is something you can laugh about
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but so many people in kog just suck
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Hesse > Smash
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I'm offended
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Smash is bad egg gg
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Smash
but so many people in kog just suck
Already gone through that, just a lot of readin above to find it 🙂
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I’m creating a ticket rn
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was nice
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with you
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so what was the argument
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i still dont get it
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Mixi
everything you say is different from reality
You say things like this but you never say any counter-argument of anything that shows the opposite would be the case.
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so you just cant read
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You say something, I answer. You make a a laughing emoji or a new statement and I answer.
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Quinn
Smash is bad egg gg
not true :( I'm always friendly and helpful, trying to build on the community 👍
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yeah I can only laugh from things you say
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its so funny
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😂
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Smash
not true :( I'm always friendly and helpful, trying to build on the community 👍
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Then laugh and after tell my why it is wrong or why you disagree. Not just THAT you disagree. That does not help nor further the conversation
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i only play in t0
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to help new players
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on main maps
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so for what you need counter argument
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Quinn
Liar
prove otherwise!
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GG @Smash, you just advanced to level 8 !
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this Mee-moderator guy's always pinging
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Well, you could start by telling me why/how people like the ones I mentioned above are not contributing to a better community (edited)
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annoying
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where did I say they arent?
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@ xin @ rqza @ jawsh @ purrp t @ rageblade @ hesse
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what about these people
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Idk they just seem cool I gues
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5 noobs and 1 poor version of kirisaki
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Xin, rqza, purrp, Hesse & Jawsh all kinda ugly
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I could add those to the list. All I've seen from them recently have been very fitting to the description, thanks @Quinn
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dont tell them please
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I love fng — Today at 19:00 everything you say is different from reality
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Lol that was shitpost directed at smash xd
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I know
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we should do
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A KoG-Member ranking
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it was about role of moderators, kog clan and other useless things you said not about people you mentioned contributing to community, their contribution is the same as any other random players
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I’d like to see that tbh
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Quinn
I’d like to see that tbh
i dont even know half of the members, how should i rank them
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See that is where I disagree. Any random player isn't contributing the same as for example the people I mentioned.
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Sucks to suck
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See that is where I disagree. Any random player isn't contributing the same as for example the people I mentioned.
because you dont know them
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you are braindead
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or what
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No
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but who's random and who isn't
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idk some friendly guys playing in t0 very often
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they are contributing as much as people he mentioned
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Not at all. These are skilled players that are reasonably active and are good role-models for newer/other players
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GG @Bʟυɛ ♡, you just advanced to level 7 !
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Someone like poopi
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role models
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xdd
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for who
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who cares about it
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ROLE MODEL
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XDDDD
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this poopi guy never types
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ipoopi
who
You didn’t see shit get out of here
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only in kog discord
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Things like last saves etc.
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gigachad
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Crispy
Things like last saves etc.
last saves? I thought this was used like 5 years ago
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Join main server
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The majority of the player base is still playing on Easy/Main servers. Showing these newer people how to play and act around others is important for the community
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Things like last saves etc.
thats just for pushy team 0 on main maps
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ACT
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they act how they want
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idk whats there to show new players that isnt common sense
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and something like showing how to play doesnt make any sense, you cant do that at all
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U learn how to save by watching
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And then playing
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by watching? 😂
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wtf
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yall started to say things which are common sense
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i guess some ppl can get inspired to get gud by watching some guy carry them
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I agree with @ipoopi however, as a person who has spent a lot of time online as well as working in a customer service centered profession for many years. Sadly, common sense is rarer than you would like. Hence, having players (preferably good players) that also act correctly, can steer others into doing the same.
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but "showing how to play and act" doesnt make sense to me
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Krumplee
yall started to say things which are common sense
i saw no common sense at all
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just play ego all the time
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best tactic for t0
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I agree with @ipoopi however, as a person who has spent a lot of time online as well as working in a customer service centered profession for many years. Sadly, common sense is rarer than you would like. Hence, having players (preferably good players) that also act correctly, can steer others into doing the same.
no if they cant behave they will be punished as simple as that
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stop being soft
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if someone is braindead enough to not have common sense about how you interact with other humans then seeing some rando being nice to others wont change anything for them regardless of the rando being a good player or not
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@Krumplee Yes of course, that's why we have moderators. I never said anything against that. But if they never broke the rules in the first place, because someone was a good role model to them. That would mean less work for moderators, more chill servers and over-all a better time for everyone
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No one said I had to be a role model watch this
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assholes dont have role models. you probably need some modesty and respect to others to look up to someone enough to call them a role model
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ipoopi
if someone is braindead enough to not have common sense about how you interact with other humans then seeing some rando being nice to others wont change anything for them regardless of the rando being a good player or not
True, but if you are younger or of the less intelligent kind, you tend to follow others. Preferably, people you look up to
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@Krumplee you stinker I’m gonna toast all your bread and put it back in the packaging
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Bʟυɛ ♡
True, but if you are younger or of the less intelligent kind, you tend to follow others. Preferably, people you look up to
not true
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@Bʟυɛ ♡ i look up to you ❤️
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ipoopi
assholes dont have role models. you probably need some modesty and respect to others to look up to someone enough to call them a role model
And yes, that is true. If you are just a trashy person. Then that is probably not going to change, that is why there are moderators
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Mixi
not true
That is not really something that can be argued about. That is basic human behaviour. Younger people and less intelligent people, generally people who can't really think for themselves will follow someone else's orders/opinions.
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Quinn
@Krumplee you stinker I’m gonna toast all your bread and put it back in the packaging
nice one a mod threatening a fellow player from the community
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kog servers arent a kindergarten idk. your pro player role model should have been a teacher in kindergarten when you were 4 to tell you that being nice is nice and not being nice is not nice
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poopi for teacher
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actually servers are real Kindergartens ❤️
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ipoopi
kog servers arent a kindergarten idk. your pro player role model should have been a teacher in kindergarten when you were 4 to tell you that being nice is nice and not being nice is not nice
Yes, I agree with you. But here we are, people are still behaving like children, people are throwing insults around and people aren't following rules.
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So we need moderators to make sure the servers are enjoyable to play on. And if we have a lot of good players that are good role models, we can make the lives of the moderators easier.
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We might need less moderators, they have more free time and they can focus more on actually enjoying the game and making improvements #ripkog2.0
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Basicly, all I am saying is that there are people that are helpful to the community without being a moderator
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idk if theres a single person that was going to call a main player an n-word for failing a save but thought "krumplee wouldnt do that!" and refrained from that
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but... krumplee would do that... 😩
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Clueless
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Mixi
but... krumplee would do that... 😩
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magyar moment
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Well if that is your first thought after someone fails a save, you probably belong to that category of people who won't change no matter what and in this case we'd have to rely on moderators and their help. But there are people who have been toxic, who have been trolling around and making the servers less entertaining to play on. Not necessarily being bad enough to get banned but enough to make things less enjoyable. They can be steered into a right direction. Not as blatantly as "I like that player and he wouldn't say this or do that". But a combination of maturing and the fact that the people you look up to act accordingly
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I'm not saying that having 1 good role model turns you into a saint and saves the server. No one is stupid enough to believe that. But these people constantly providing a safe, enjoyable environment are helping others to steer into that direction
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Not everyone and it won't make them perfect. But it helps
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i think you are missing the most important part
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they are not doing that on purpose
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they are just naturally friendly
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thats all
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That is my point
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People CAN help by just being themselves
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idk, maybe that happens one day. then the role model player gets a +1 community contribution point and now officially contributes more than some rando player by 0,1%
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they are just naturally friendly
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 17:31:40Z
ye they aren't magyars
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wtf systemic racism in #general_chatroom towards hungarians
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i gotta ping crack 3 times
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 17:32:13Z
oh no...
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magyar vagyok
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geci kajak?
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geci kajak?
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 17:33:02Z
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too short for touching sky
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fasza adom
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ipoopi
idk, maybe that happens one day. then the role model player gets a +1 community contribution point and now officially contributes more than some rando player by 0,1%
Yeah to some extend you are correct. It might not help with much. Just one player being good won't do much. But the more people that are being good role-models, the more people will take after them, which means even more role-models in future etc.
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fasza adom
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 17:33:37Z
nem nem
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But if a lot of people improve the servers with 0.01%, eventually it still adds up to something (edited)
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why is this a topic tho
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Well, it's a long story...
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idk im just having a nice chat
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if you are the one who call people nwords after they fail on main map then... you probably joined damian army 👊 💪
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in kog everyone is a saint
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New day, new hope! Servers fixed yet?
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Mixi
if you are the one who call people nwords after they fail on main map then... you probably joined damian army 👊 💪
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average ruski and polski players
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poor broke feelsbadman
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too short for touching sky
average ruski and polski players
based players
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New day, new hope! Servers fixed yet?
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 17:35:30Z
obv no
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based players
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sigma
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someone asked admins to give information about fixing the servers like 3 days ago
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still waiting for it
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ping crack 3 times
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and admins saw this message
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Krumplee
why is this a topic tho
Basically, I disagreed with @Mixi stating that most KoG Clan players are useless and/or don't care/contribute to the community in any way, shape or form.
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And it somehow lead to this
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But I feel like we've been through it all, and I'm getting tired of typing
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he already said that he had never said that (edited)
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he never said that?
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that statement is true tho for the majority
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sadly
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ipoopi
he already said that he had never said that (edited)
or idk anymore
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if we agree that just playing on the servers isnt contributing then most of them dont do anything
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if we agree that playing is contributing then they dont do much more than average t0 players
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yeah exactly
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who won
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I love fng — Today at 18:11 1) they arent active 2) they dont care about community I love fng — Today at 18:13 they arent doing anything for the community
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yeah exactly
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Mixi
if we agree that just playing on the servers isnt contributing then most of them dont do anything
.
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same with activity
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I can give examples
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And I disagree with the fact that people who "just play" aren't contributing with the arguments I said above, about the role-model thingy
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That is IF they are being that
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they dont do much more than average players
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who arent in kog
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which is useless
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I do agree with the fact that SOME aren't doing anything except just playing
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I can say there are some people doing more than others in kog, for example shyzo
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And that is just the average player, not someone fitting for KoG clan imo
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can we all agree that the only good people are the ones who use #deleted-channel ?
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And that is just the average player, not someone fitting for KoG clan imo
what has kog to do with it?
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if you fit to kog you are most likely random or totally neutral person
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idk if kog clan is anything different from any other clan except that it gives some benefits like more voting power
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yeah this power is why half of people is still there
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"info from kog members"
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I think its hilarious u kids are talking shit about KoG members. u wouldnt say this shit to them irl, they're jacked. not only that but they wear the freshest clothes, eat at the chillest restaurants and hang out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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I think its hilarious u kids are talking shit about KoG members. u wouldnt say this shit to them irl, they're jacked. not only that but they wear the freshest clothes, eat at the chillest restaurants and hang out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
i actually laughed out loudly thanks
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KoG clan is supposed to represent relatively skilled/active players, that also follow guidelines and generally provide a nice gaming experience. Atleast that is the impression I have gotten from the KoG clan today. That being said, I don't think everyone who is in the KoG clan right now should be there.
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but it isnt
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keyword
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But isn't that why they need to have a certain amount of points (top200) and need to be accepted through a voting procedure. To filter out those who don't fit
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I think its hilarious u kids are talking shit about KoG members. u wouldnt say this shit to them irl, they're jacked. not only that but they wear the freshest clothes, eat at the chillest restaurants and hang out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
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and most of them are from Saratov
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they dont fit because they have life?a
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Ukrainiec
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people that dont fit into kog are voting whether some other random fits into kog
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But isn't that why they need to have a certain amount of points (top200) and need to be accepted through a voting procedure. To filter out those who don't fit
friends will vote for friends who are not members yet, if a completely random stranger wants to join he wont get accepted
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this is how it works in the reality
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and it doesnt matter if you are skilled or not
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the fact that some most known people in kog history were declined just shows that kog clan is joke
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its easy to get into top200
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Krumplee
friends will vote for friends who are not members yet, if a completely random stranger wants to join he wont get accepted
Well, I haven't said there aren't issues with the system. But if someone is in the top200 and is completely unfitting to be a part of the clan. I'd assume there never even is a vote.
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Well, I haven't said there aren't issues with the system. But if someone is in the top200 and is completely unfitting to be a part of the clan. I'd assume there never even is a vote.
everyone gets the chance usually
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Mixi
the fact that some most known people in kog history were declined just shows that kog clan is joke
All tw clans are jokes
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Mixi
the fact that some most known people in kog history were declined just shows that kog clan is joke
from skill issue or just for racism
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ipoopi
from skill issue or just for racism
none
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just becasue
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there wasnt any reason
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like who
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funman
All tw clans are jokes
#1QshaRfan is the best clan actually and thats not a joke
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me recently
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Clueless
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but I will never have chance to join kog again
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if there are people like ahl, kaelo, gummi
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mivv nealson roco
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who will always f4 me
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Krumplee
mivv nealson roco
sasukey livos and damian also 😩
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Aware
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yeah but q declined them by himself XD
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gigachad
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so you see, joining kog is only about being liked by others/licking their asses hard
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Well
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it has nothing to do with activity or skill
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Not quite but yes that does weigh in
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Mixi
it has nothing to do with activity or skill
you need to be active tho
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I only had like 1 friend in kog clan and still managed to join
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Nealson Roco and Damian have all botted tho
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funman
Nealson Roco and Damian have all botted tho
so what?
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they are still better than 99,9% of players
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Mixi
so what?
So I'd argue they don't fit the description anymore. Denying them wouldn't be "for no reason" (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
So I'd argue they don't fit the description anymore. Denying them wouldn't be "for no reason" (edited)
legendre botted too
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and he is in kog
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Krumplee
legendre botted too
Same goes for him then.
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and what about people I mentioned earlier?
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why were they declined
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tell me
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@Bʟυɛ ♡
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ping crack he will know
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are they racists?
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are they unskilled?
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are they inactive?
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or what
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nah
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I don't know, I was JUST told about the others. So that is all I can answer too
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people just dont like them
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not handsome enough
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you dont know right
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why do ppl not like yoc or delete
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But as I said, system is flawed. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to follow the guidelines that were intended
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ask kog members
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livos is the friendliest player such a shame to not let him in
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never really seen them being rude but also never seen delete talk at all
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ipoopi
why do ppl not like yoc or delete
delete botted, yoc i have absolutely no idea
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fr
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curry clan > kog
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amigo is honest
17:52
probably thats why
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Yes
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Xin
I think its hilarious u kids are talking shit about KoG members. u wouldnt say this shit to them irl, they're jacked. not only that but they wear the freshest clothes, eat at the chillest restaurants and hang out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 17:54:16Z
and most of them are from Saratov
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@Roadrunner did u get f4'd by most ppl or what
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 17:54:16Z
gigachad
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Qshar.com says im in kog still troll
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ipoopi
@Roadrunner did u get f4'd by most ppl or what
i was mod so i instantly declined him
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ipoopi
@Roadrunner did u get f4'd by most ppl or what
I had 3 f4s
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And like 20 or more f3
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kek
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yeah back then there were no f4 system
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if u had f4 that was a decline
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back then you had to give arguments
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when giving f4
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so u could get in and gatekeep everyone else
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I cant send message lol
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I talked bad about kog clan
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ipoopi
so u could get in and gatekeep everyone else
thats what is happening rn
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now you are just voting brainless
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And my messages got leaked to whole clan but not to me kek
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oh wait that was why sasukey and delete was declined i think
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why are we even arguing tho
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there are no servers
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Is the reason for all those recent server crashes known? And is anybody even working on it? Would be cool to give some updates to the community, since we are playing for almost two weeks with constant server crashes every hour
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This is how I see it, not that it actually matters to anyone else. But I'd like to think of myself as impartial and objective, so read through if you are interested. No one is perfect, everyone has their bad days and even the friendliest and calmest person can rage on someone once in a while. Shiet happens, unfortunately, that's life. But if you are toxic majority of time, or have been caught cheating or banned/muted for racism etc. The major "no-no's", so to speak. You shouldn't be allowed in to the KoG clan. (except, maybe (keyword maybe) if there has been a extended period of time where you have proven you matured or moved away from such behaviours, couple years later, idk). So the vote shouldn't even appear in these scenarios (in my opinion, just instant decline) But if you haven't broken any rules and been generally a good person, "spreading good vibes" and all that jazz. Then start the vote and KoG clan votes. HOPEFULLY in this stage, the KoG clan members will be mature enough to vote for people that are FITTING and not only their friends. This all does heavily rely on the fact that the KoG clan has a generally mature player base and the people inside it as of right now fit in the description as well.
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kog clan is corrupted place
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thats all
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:02:05Z
gigachad
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bob is talking truth
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Also I saw something mentioned about one single F4 vote and you are out as well as not even needing to give a reason
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:02:07Z
when wats to admin
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also they keep racists inside
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kog
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so what you said is not true
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I never said it was true. I just said that is how I want things and hope things will be
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:02:45Z
great my messages have sent after half of hour
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ipoopi
who
me
GIGACHAD 2
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are u in kog
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yes ofc
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But is it true that one single F4 vote = deny + that you don't need a reason?
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what did u think xd
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Bʟυɛ ♡
But is it true that one single F4 vote = deny + that you don't need a reason?
not single f4 but its true that you dont need any reason
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not liking someone is enough
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Krumplee
what did u think xd
idk you dont play anymore
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Bʟυɛ ♡
But is it true that one single F4 vote = deny + that you don't need a reason?
no that was back then but you had to reason if you voted f4, now you can have f4 and no reasoning
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ipoopi
idk you dont play anymore
???? no one plays man
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servers are unplayable
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play fng
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not good there anymore
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servers are unplayable
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:06:15Z
when carry ruskis through imp2
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What Is this chat
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Lmfao
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RealTaco
What Is this chat
fast ping crack 3 times
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Krumplee
Click to see attachment 🖼️
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:07:06Z
i asked when
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fast ping crack 3 times
Fast
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1) I think that they should HAVE to give a reason when voting. Whether or not it's F4, blank or F3, giving a reason supporting your vote is never a bad idea. It can only make things better, clearer and more informative 2) If you dislike someone, you have a reason for disliking them. This would be made clear if you had to type a reason behind your vote. If your reason is actually just bs this would show and if you refuse to type a reason your vote just shouldn't count. 3) If your reason is valid, but you wish to not make it public you could just message a staff member of choice and they can present it further to the team anonymously. (edited)
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I pinged a crack
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Not crack
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troll
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lol crackhead
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nice one
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Thanks sir
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Bʟυɛ ♡
1) I think that they should HAVE to give a reason when voting. Whether or not it's F4, blank or F3, giving a reason supporting your vote is never a bad idea. It can only make things better, clearer and more informative 2) If you dislike someone, you have a reason for disliking them. This would be made clear if you had to type a reason behind your vote. If your reason is actually just bs this would show and if you refuse to type a reason your vote just shouldn't count. 3) If your reason is valid, but you wish to not make it public you could just message a staff member of choice and they can present it further to the team anonymously. (edited)
staff members passing something further...
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I wanna apply for kog clan honkler
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most people that contribute to kog or overall moderation/testers etc is lacking initiative, thats the biggest issue in kog
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Well, do you wanna try to change that?
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Im changing that
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everyday
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on things that Im working
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Good, that's the only right way to go about it
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you will see effects soon hopefully
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Ukrainiec
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If change is going to be made, someone's gotta start 🙂
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but later people always cry about it
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about changes
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You can't please everyone. Someone will always get upset
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but the problem is that they can contribute to it
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but they dont want
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You can't force someone who's not interested to try and help. All you can do is your best and hope others will come along as well
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But don't give up, if people cry or you feel alone in trying to make a change.
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Im not giving up
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That's how things stay the same
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I dont care about others
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thats all
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good example with map testing, lacking of opinions
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what can we do
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nothing
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we cant wait months for someone to say something
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@crack
Currently our devs aren't available. That's why we're not able to fix that issue in the next couple of days
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but the problem is that people who dont give a sh*t about it cry later
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crack
Currently our devs aren't available. That's why we're not able to fix that issue in the next couple of days
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:17:50Z
i wonder who are devs atm
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so you dont know whats causing the crash
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too short for touching sky
i wonder who are devs atm
Avo and q
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:18:19Z
so q didn't leave? (edited)
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No I don't @ipoopi but it seems like it's not a players fault
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too short for touching sky
so q didn't leave? (edited)
q is still there but he has other priorities now
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I don't know much about the map-testing procedure and what is allowed, but if you ever need more opinions, I'm sure just asking some active members like myself wouldn't hurt. I don't think I'm that knowledgeable about rating maps and I don't have much experience but I'd gladly help, only if casually
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q is still there but he has other priorities now
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:19:39Z
ok thx
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90% of tw players are programmers, arent there any mods that could help with that?
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I think a lot of others think the same way, just that they don't get asked or feel like they deserve the "tester position"
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obviouly not for the current problem because youd need to learn the kog code etc but for future maintenance
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I don't know much about the map-testing procedure and what is allowed, but if you ever need more opinions, I'm sure just asking some active members like myself wouldn't hurt. I don't think I'm that knowledgeable about rating maps and I don't have much experience but I'd gladly help, only if casually
in this case Im against relying much on unexperienced people, was more talking about people that have some knowledge about it
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KoG-Member tierlist almost done 👍
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ipoopi
90% of tw players are programmers, arent there any mods that could help with that?
from what I know kog refused help earlier
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I understand that. But it surely is better than nothing, right?. And people that have played as much as me or more generally have a decent understanding of maps and their rating. If you ask 10 people and they all say Main 3, maybe there is some information to be grabbed from that
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KoG-Member tierlist almost done 👍
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:22:05Z
what is it
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wdym by that
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ipoopi
90% of tw players are programmers, arent there any mods that could help with that?
That needs to be decided by Avo. I'm not a programmer so I don't really know how easy it is for others to participate on the coding of KoG 2.0
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too short for touching sky
wdym by that
I'm doing a tierlist on the kog-member based on skill
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I'm doing a tierlist on the kog-member based on skill
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:22:46Z
oh
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interesting
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But I look forward to the new rating. I think you'll do a good job @Mixi
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imma get canceled afterwards
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imma get canceled afterwards
Idk, a simple ranking list can't be that offensive. Right?
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In the end we're still closed sourced but we thinking about changing that @ipoopi
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Idk, a simple ranking list can't be that offensive. Right?
some people might take it badly
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tho idc
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Yeah that is true, I mean people will get hurt since it's their names on that list and they are being compared to others, but you have got to take it with a bit of salt. It doesn't sound too serious to me nor should it be taken too serious either
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comparing people to others is normal thing
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some are good some are bad
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if they cry about it its their problem not urs
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but this is about gores skill
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players yes, but apparently rating girls in ur class is bad
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it doesnt change anything
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the real test
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But as long as you don't type "you are last because you are.." and then list everything negative about them mixed with some insults, I'd think you'd be fine
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i wouldnt put that much effort into it xd
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i just put them in a tier
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players yes, but apparently rating girls in ur class is bad
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:27:39Z
i can say that some girls are strange and i can say that some players are weird (edited)
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@Mixi Even though we have spammed the discord with hundreds of messages and didn't really come to a point. I do think we had some healthy discussions and shed light on important subjects as well as brought out some decent arguments. Hopefully the staff will read through at least some of it.
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bruh, i got banned for clicking too fast :d
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not hax
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:29:35Z
yeah l2p
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@Mixi Even though we have spammed the discord with hundreds of messages and didn't really come to a point. I do think we had some healthy discussions and shed light on important subjects as well as brought out some decent arguments. Hopefully the staff will read through at least some of it.
About the voting: We had an KoG internal discussion about the voting and many player participated on it. This new voting system was made by the community and not by the staff team. There was a voting and each KoG Member was able to vote for his/her favourite solution. This vote resulted in the new voting system
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I can post the rules here if anybody is interested
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Im interested
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:31:40Z
yes please
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Can't be a bad thing to be more transparent about the inner works
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looks like kog members created gatekeeping system themselves
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voting options are f3 , f4 & feelschristmasman (idk vote) (edited)
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So you can vote F4, have a reason for that F4 vote. Mods deeming that reason to be invalid or irrelevant and that vote still counts?
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@ahl then*
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Bʟυɛ ♡
So you can vote F4, have a reason for that F4 vote. Mods deeming that reason to be invalid or irrelevant and that vote still counts?
this is only half right
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if somebody votes f4 regardless whether the reason is personal or not the vote still counts as f4
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I just wanted to say that Im accepted to kog again, thanks qshar!!
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whatever his reasons doesn't matter
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@crack and what do you think about older voting system?
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:37:58Z
how older voting system worked?
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GG @too short for touching sky, you just advanced to level 24 !
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too short for touching sky
how older voting system worked?
you cant give f4 without valid reason
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It doesn't matter what I personally think about it, because the clan should be community-oriented. And the generality of the clan wanted a new voting system. I thought the old voting system was not bad either, but it had its weaknesses
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you cant give f4 without valid reason
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 18:38:33Z
ah
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who decided if a reason was vaild
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Mod/Admin team
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if you had some evidences of people being toxic/racist etc then its valid ofc
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Im curious how many kog members agreed to that
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It's just a suggestion, of course. But the communities that I have been a part of before. (As in a part of the administrative team). You had to state a reason for your vote, as long as you vote F3 or F4. You had to clarify why some one is either deemed qualified as well as why they aren't deemed qualified. If any of your reasoning was deemed invalid or Irrelevant your vote was moved from F3/F4 to blank, unless you could state another reason, ofc. But just blindly voting for friends is equally harmful as gatekeeping your "enemies". I think it could be very healthy to implement a system like this. Especially when there is a lot of "controversy" surrounding who can be a member and who can't. The community seems a bit divided and some feel like they aren't given a proper chance. I think this could help. Of course, this is just an opinion/suggestion, nothing more than that. (edited)
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GG @Bʟυɛ ♡, you just advanced to level 8 !
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Im curious how many kog members agreed to that
There was a voting channel but it got deleted months ago after the voting
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Idk how many people voted back then
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but I pinged KoG Members several time during those events
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so everyone who was active at this time had the chance to vote
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It's just a suggestion, of course. But the communities that I have been a part of before. (As in a part of the administrative team). You had to state a reason for your vote, as long as you vote F3 or F4. You had to clarify why some one is either deemed qualified as well as why they aren't deemed qualified. If any of your reasoning was deemed invalid or Irrelevant your vote was moved from F3/F4 to blank, unless you could state another reason, ofc. But just blindly voting for friends is equally harmful as gatekeeping your "enemies". I think it could be very healthy to implement a system like this. Especially when there is a lot of "controversy" surrounding who can be a member and who can't. The community seems a bit divided and some feel like they aren't given a proper chance. I think this could help. Of course, this is just an opinion/suggestion, nothing more than that. (edited)
this sytem was used in the past
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Even though the system I just provided is very simplified and there is a lot more surrounding the vote that needs to be done. I feel like it would decrease the effectiveness of people Gatekeeping or people just blindly letting friends through, compared to the current system. That being said, the new system is REALLY new so I don't think they'd change it again quite this soon. We might just have to wait a little, give it some time and see if there still seems to be problems in the nearby future (edited)
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Even though the system I just provided is very simplified and there is a lot more surrounding the vote that needs to be done. I feel like it would decrease the effectiveness of people Gatekeeping or people just blindly letting friends through, compared to the current system. That being said, the new system is REALLY new so I don't think they'd change it again quite this soon. We might just have to wait a little, give it some time and see if there still seems to be problems in the nearby future (edited)
but thats what people want to do, gatekeep enemies and accept their friends
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Yes and if the administrative team sees this behaviour continuing under a longer period of time. They should probably step in and force-fully change it to something that is equally as democratic but less forgiving to "blind votes" and "Invalid reasoning"
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they wont cuz its what community wants
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Well, as a governing body, sometimes you have to do things that the majority won't like. For the greater good. (edited)
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Tbh I think that the system is not working at the moment. We hade only 9 votes since then and only 3 of them got declined
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one of them was Mixis vote
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the other ones were Jukki and Livos
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3 friendly players
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Clueless
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crack
Currently our devs aren't available. That's why we're not able to fix that issue in the next couple of days
Can you tell an estimated time? feelsbadman
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3 friendly players
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I remember livos trying to join like 6 years ago or more 🤣
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Can you tell an estimated time? feelsbadman
I would if I could. If Avo finds some spare time he could probably fix it any time
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Okay, thanks feelscryman
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if youre friends with someone who wants to join then its easy to come up with a good reason to f3 them so blindly f3ing friends isnt really fixable unless youre also required to comment on their skill in the reasoning with some good proof that theyre skilled enough
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Hopefully soon
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Bʟυɛ ♡
It's just a suggestion, of course. But the communities that I have been a part of before. (As in a part of the administrative team). You had to state a reason for your vote, as long as you vote F3 or F4. You had to clarify why some one is either deemed qualified as well as why they aren't deemed qualified. If any of your reasoning was deemed invalid or Irrelevant your vote was moved from F3/F4 to blank, unless you could state another reason, ofc. But just blindly voting for friends is equally harmful as gatekeeping your "enemies". I think it could be very healthy to implement a system like this. Especially when there is a lot of "controversy" surrounding who can be a member and who can't. The community seems a bit divided and some feel like they aren't given a proper chance. I think this could help. Of course, this is just an opinion/suggestion, nothing more than that. (edited)
migget wanted f4 to count no matter what
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Okay, thanks feelscryman
I'll contact him tomorrow again and ask him
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if youre friends with someone who wants to join then its easy to come up with a good reason to f3 them so blindly f3ing friends isnt really fixable unless youre also required to comment on their skill in the reasoning with some good proof that theyre skilled enough
And administrative team checks the reasoning and sees if it rings true. They also have to compare all reasonings to each other. If everyone votes F4 and reasons are something like, them being toxic and then 1 guy who is a known friend votes F3 and says "Friendliest guy alive" then it would be quite obvious that there is something fishy going on. The version I stated is super simplified but it is the basics of the system. It's up to the staff to confirm each vote. (edited)
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second one is how it turned out
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why 🟠 option was even considered?
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its so usleess
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useless
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One thing I forgot to mention in my system, or didn't make clear enough, is that in my system it's more or less F3, blank or F4
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The "blank" option doesn't weigh in on the vote unless it's an obvious majority and no one really knows this person
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Okay, thanks feelscryman
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 19:02:59Z
time to carry ruskis through imp2
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if someone hits top200 its weird if people dont know him
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wait for Jerry&Tom to hit it feelsthinking
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if theyre outside of EU then it does make sense (edited)
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(I.e.) 5 - F3 votes, 20 - B votes, 3 - F4 votes. (B = blank). Here the majority is overwhelmingly blank. This means majority of people doesn't know this person, then it should be considered to decline. However, this ought to be VERY rare, since they have to be top200.
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then its up to sa/us/asia community
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the new system only applies for the Eu region
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so can I apply to kog as a SA community member?
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Basically the "blank" vote would only be an option if you either A) Don't know the person enough to make a valid reason or B) your reasoning was deemed invalid and moved to blank.
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yeah you could have seen a person on server but not really know enough about their skill or their personality
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Basically the "blank" vote would only be an option if you either A) Don't know the person enough to make a valid reason or B) your reasoning was deemed invalid and moved to blank.
that was my original proposition
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this is what happens when servers crap: massive debate
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that was my original proposition
That seems good. As long as the "blanks" are counted as actual blank votes and not something negative
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it was denied tho
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Bʟυɛ ♡
(I.e.) 5 - F3 votes, 20 - B votes, 3 - F4 votes. (B = blank). Here the majority is overwhelmingly blank. This means majority of people doesn't know this person, then it should be considered to decline. However, this ought to be VERY rare, since they have to be top200.
Unless of course, this 1 exception applies which I meantioned before*
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if someone hits top200 its weird if people dont know him
QzBoY is top 100 but i dont think i have ever played with him, even in team 0
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qzboy is very old player
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russian player
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yeah ik him but he always plays in team so i wouldnt be able to tell if hes good enough or not
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a lot of german players like that too, that mostly play in team
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but kog is not about being good or not
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Smash
KoG-Member tierlist almost done 👍
Still waiting for that list btw.
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QzBoY is top 100 but i dont think i have ever played with him, even in team 0
There are enough to rate him if hes good
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most of these would be his russian friends who would be biased
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But they are not in kog kek
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that too
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Old players know him
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Still waiting for that list btw.
I'm having too many unranked rn, need to figure out who these people are
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Mixi
qzboy is very old player
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 19:11:54Z
i remember their team
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he plays with harbinger and other rus players
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Qzboy and harbinger underrated players
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then maybe alina is a better example. not an old player and any feedback would be from german players that play with her in team
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I'm having too many unranked rn, need to figure out who these people are
It's a bit boring but you could add a separate "unknown section", just to finish the list
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 19:13:01Z
that was counting harbinger pahdera cb henki ZiKkie NISO QzBoy reimu and others
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Qzboy and harbinger underrated players
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 19:13:15Z
i don't think so
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henki is the only one i see nowadays
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v much enjoy running with NISO and Harbinger the odd time they are in t0
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then maybe alina is a better example. not an old player and any feedback would be from german players that play with her in team
You do raise an interesting point. I don't know much about Alina and her situation, so I won't use her as an example. But if someone were to ONLY play in team from day 1 until the day they apply for KoG (obviously having enough points etc.). And they've refrained from ever interacting with the community in any other way. That being on discord, team 0 chat etc. I am not sure if I think they should be able to get accepted to join the clan. Sure, they might be skilled enough and might be a great person. But if no one can confirm this except the team said person played with, in other words, their friends. It suddenly becomes hard... It's definitely a grey zone
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KOG is a community clan right, so surely they have to of interacted with the community to join the clan?
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 19:22:51Z
i can name you 3 players that are most comfortable to play
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But with the voting system that I described, there should be a overwhelming majority of "blank" votes. To an extent of it becoming the exception I mentioned earlier
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Currently our devs aren't available. That's why we're not able to fix that issue in the next couple of days
Tell us how this bug even started happening? Shouldn't avo (i presumably think he did something) fix it easily ??
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Brokecdx-
Tell us how this bug even started happening? Shouldn't avo (i presumably think he did something) fix it easily ??
I think he already said, that since he isn't a programmer he doesn't know. But they've (kinda, idk) excluded that it isn't a player caused bug
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Doesnt he get involved into the dev's work at all?
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Probably to some extent. I'm not quite sure tbh
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ahl
feelschristmasman is 🟠
If this system is the one Crack posted, then from a logical perspective you were right imo. 🟠 stands for "feeling that the player should not be in the clan". Therefore every 🔴 should also be counted as 🟠 .
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Yeah, orange and red is basicly the same
19:25
Except Red is a strong orange
19:26
I don't really understand why they grouped "Don't know this person enough" together with "Feels like the player should not be in the clan" (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Probably to some extent. I'm not quite sure tbh
From what i know he doesnt even have access to anything, because they keep it super private, which as you can see is bad for the community, their leadership struggles.. @crack how about getting new devs on board for just server side development?
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QzBoy is sigma
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Probably smart if all info ran through the Admin team. Which as far as I know is only Crack, Gummi and Haw. I'd be surprised if one of the 3 admins decided to leak things. And it could probably prove helpful if they could ask/answer questions, to some extent (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Probably smart if all info ran through the Admin team. Which as far as I know is only Crack, Gummi and Haw. I'd be surprised if one of the 3 admins decided to leak things. And it could probably prove helpful if they could ask/answer questions, to some extent (edited)
None of them are devs
19:30
So its pointless if they would leak or not
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Brokecdx-
Tell us how this bug even started happening? Shouldn't avo (i presumably think he did something) fix it easily ??
I am included. When I talk with Avo he explains me everything he does. But since he is on vacation at the moment I don't want to annoy him with server issues every day. I already informed him about the problems we have right now. Since he hasn't looked at the problem yet, I don't know what the cause is
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I know. They aren't devs. But they should probably have SOME insight into what is going on. Judging by what @Brokecdx- said they have nothing. But I don't know if that is true
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crack
I am included. When I talk with Avo he explains me everything he does. But since he is on vacation at the moment I don't want to annoy him with server issues every day. I already informed him about the problems we have right now. Since he hasn't looked at the problem yet, I don't know what the cause is
Yeah, that just answered me
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Yeah xd
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Brokecdx-
From what i know he doesnt even have access to anything, because they keep it super private, which as you can see is bad for the community, their leadership struggles.. @crack how about getting new devs on board for just server side development?
Sure that could be a solution but as I said earlier this is mostly up to Avo to decide and I respect his opinion
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Yeah thats a big issue, only 1 can decide
19:32
You should act as a team, everyone should have a word on that
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I mean, you can't ask too much from them (the admin team). If they aren't devs themselves they can only try to understand. They won't randomly look at it and be like "HEY, I FIGURED IT OUT". (edited)
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Cant ask too much, but the issue is clear, its not a ddos issue
19:34
And servers randomly crashing is a big NO for such mod, especially for people playing harder maps
19:34
And thats why its bad to only have 1 really committed dev that is apparently on vacation now
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But I'm glad that they are thinking about opening up. They did mention it might become open source and they are considering bringing in more people.
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Brokecdx-
You should act as a team, everyone should have a word on that
We do have a word on that but until now most of the stuff was fixable by Avo alone. Now he is not available for a longer period of time and now we have this bug which is just unfortunate
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Thats where he has to be here, cant just bail out if you are the main dev imo
19:35
or qshar
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Thats a must if you commit alone to this project
19:35
Cant just let the community down with this issue tbh..
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@Brokecdx- you are a really great person for this community I suggest you as admin
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Can someone tell me for how long this has been going on?
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Marry me @Brokecdx-
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the bugs?
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yeah
19:35
the crashes
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Brokecdx-
Thats a must if you commit alone to this project
its somehow true
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1,5 weeks i think not sure tho
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Brokecdx-
Can someone tell me for how long this has been going on?
for around 3 hours and 30 min
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Bugs exist for a long time
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and they didnt want anyone to help them
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Cute animals
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Brokecdx-
the crashes
for about a week I'd say
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Should have told qshar that avo is on vacation and he needs to take care in case something happens
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bugs got fixed a week ago but seems like new ones got created by fixing it
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since avo seems to be totally not available
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q is maybe every 4 months online
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It is really weird to me how they even happened, maybe reverse the previous updates to run the old version of the server?
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Or he doesnt write u danAmazing
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Since previously everything was fine?
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I think he replies me a bit more often
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I can see it from both sides here. For them (Dev and admin team) it's like their passion project. They don't want to just let anyone have a go at it and possibly ruin things. And if they know they can fix it (in time) it's "safer" to do it themselves. But you are correct @Brokecdx- . Just having 1 main developer available is an issue. Obviously one person can't be available 24/7. Breaks are needed and life happens too. If something bad happens in that certain period that they are gone, it can quickly turn into a very unfortunate situation. Similar to what we have going on now (edited)
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Take me as developer
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with things like kog 2.0, I dont think its possible to run kog with 1 developer only
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Mixi
with things like kog 2.0, I dont think its possible to run kog with 1 developer only
So they have enough time to search a new one
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Probably would be smart to at least try to have 2-3 developers so there's backup.
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Its hard to find
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Yes, that is the everlasting issue
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Krumplee
Its hard to find
Trusted devs
19:41
from other mods e.g. blockworlds / ddnet
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Trusted sex
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19:42
Yeah
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Find someone that actually knows what they are doing and who is also a person you can trust with that sensitive information (edited)
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KoG 2.0 has always been Avo's own idea and project. That's exactly why I think it's also his decision somewhere...
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but the leak anxiety is just too big i suppose but this project cant go on with 1 dev
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crack
KoG 2.0 has always been Avo's own idea and project. That's exactly why I think it's also his decision somewhere...
He cant just come here and decide that tho
19:42
you are the admin team
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I wasn't in the team back then
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you all have a word on that
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Qshar decided that
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crack
KoG 2.0 has always been Avo's own idea and project. That's exactly why I think it's also his decision somewhere...
Shouldnt this be decided also by community? Since its for them?
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Without Avo, KoG would probably still be exactly where it was 2 years ago.
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What is better now?
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Qshar kinda stopped developping
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Was good than
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Insert comments about how things was good back in the days^
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We know that avo did a lot but I dont think he can do all things he wants by himself
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Well, we know he can't do it all by himself. We need someone now and as of right now he can't be here.
19:45
Can't keep the servers floating 24/7 and also finish KoG 2.0 while also having an actual life outside of this
19:46
That's just asking too much from him.
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How about updating not every region and have backup server ready in case such bugs happen
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make open sauce
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you should also expect something if he decided to run this alone
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@Mixi at least He got the solo rank 1 on 069
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Brokecdx-
How about updating not every region and have backup server ready in case such bugs happen
that's what we do
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It is what it is now, cant change it but @crack you guys should consider serious changes
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the bug appeard one day after we fixed the other one
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crack
that's what we do
How come they still crash
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and on that day Avo left
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He vanished. 100 years passed
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But the previous update could have been just reverted as well no? Or how come the bug appeared out of nowhere suddenly
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go watch stranger things @Shyzo
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Shyzo
He vanished. 100 years passed
Did he try to do the impossible and ping Crack 50 times? (edited)
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Brokecdx-
How come they still crash
Unknown bug yet
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Brokecdx-
But the previous update could have been just reverted as well no? Or how come the bug appeared out of nowhere suddenly
then we probably would have the old bug again where people can crash the servers on purpose
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that was not as bad as it is rn
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So first it was a player thing and now its unkown
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i see
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We found avo in an iceberg. He is still a kid but an airbender. I believe He can Change the world
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Stop smoking
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Someone should make a show about this @Shyzo
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The Avotar
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actually made me laugh
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Alright @Avolicious Change Location from hawai to noth pole
19:50
We gotta make a movie
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sometimes it
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XDDDDDD
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Sometimes it
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Bro is getting censored for a thankful message
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he censored himself
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nothing new
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crack
he censored himself
Party pooper
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Now ping urself 3 times
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Lol rofl
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I need to timeout myself then
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Thanks for having a discussion with us @crack Sometimes there is only complaining going on in discord, but tonight we're actually having an adult discussion with suggestions, arguments and information. Glad to see team is also taking a part of it.
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Me too since i suggested gigachad
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@Bʟυɛ ♡ Sometimes it
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There we go. Nothing happened before, you all saw nothing
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Sometimes it
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Btw @Krumplee nice nelson mandela Profile picture
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Its actually nealson roco mivv tnp the 3rd
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Thanks for having a discussion with us @crack Sometimes there is only complaining going on in discord, but tonight we're actually having an adult discussion with suggestions, arguments and information. Glad to see team is also taking a part of it.
You're welcome. It's not possible to please everyone everytime but we're also trying our best. I'm sorry for the crashes at the moment. I would do something if I could but I actually can't in this situation
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We would all be pleased where we can ping you 3 times consecutively without consequences
19:54
But life isnt fair
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Let the crashes happen. I can finally do something Else with my Life instead of being addicted and playing 24/7
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how long mute for pinging crack 3 times?
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I'm back! I got a 10 minute mute 😮
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Mixi
how long mute for pinging crack 3 times?
depends on how often u did it before
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But i believe WE can do it together
19:55
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Next tournament reward is the winner gets you to ping 3 times, deal?
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see ya in 10 mins boys @Shyzo @Mixi
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2001 09 11
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GG @Krumplee, you just advanced to level 22 !
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Mee6 agrees 💀💀💀
19:57
Best mod
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Hm, I've been trying to send a message to Shyzo and Krumplee. But every time I try, I get muted for another 10 minutes (edited)
19:57
Unfortunate. I suppose my world changing joke will just have to stay with me
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What was it?
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I tried sending it again but I got auto-muted, again. So it will live on forever as a missed opportunity
19:59
The moment has passed and the joke wouldn't land as good. Let's just move on and shed a tear for what could've been
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Oh auto mod ?
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Yeah. Just after you both said "sometimes it" I got muted first time. Then I came back, said "I'm back" and next text got me muted again 😄
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It was crack
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Might've been crack who became jealous over my incredible humor and all the social credit it would've granted me.
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But he was kind enough to un-mute me both times and at least pretended like he didn't knew what was going on (edited)
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Bʟυɛ ♡
The moment has passed and the joke wouldn't land as good. Let's just move on and shed a tear for what could've been
this is your 50th time you've written the word "just" today 🥳
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ipoopi
this is your 50th time you've written the word "just" today 🥳
Wait until you find ouy how many "and" and "as well" I've used, as well as different contellations of "KoG" (edited)
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133 ands
20:04
only 9 "as well"s
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too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 20:04:33Z
im hoping you was counting it by yourself
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Yeah of course! He manually read through all my messages from the start of today and counted, by hand, exactly how many times I used these words
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25 kogs
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But 50 "just" is concerning...
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Bʟυɛ ♡
Yeah of course! He manually read through all my messages from the start of today and counted, by hand, exactly how many times I used these words
too short for touching sky 2022-09-11 20:06:58Z
ipoopi is industrious
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47 "people" looks more concerning
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Perhaps the contents of our discussions should have included a bit more variety, thereby decreasing the overuse of single words from my end. However, for this particular instance, I take full responsibility of my actions. (edited)
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you typed 5232 words today which is 28309 characters and around 20 minutes of average reading time
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blue 4 mod
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Why is there no whitelist via discord verification? (edited)
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FYI changing map to corrupted_easy is making server crash right now
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did it 3 times, reason unkown
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ty for the info
22:23
does it happen when you vote it or after the vote?
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when the vote pass and the server is about to change the map
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alright thanks👍
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