|*KoG*| King of Gores - general

@Hawerer where are you from? germany?

01:02

sry for ping

Austria

nice!

01:04

can you guess where im from

Tyrone

can you guess where im from

Austria aswell?

no ENGLAND ABBABUUB!!

Tyrone

no ENGLAND ABBABUUB!!

bro gets stabbed when going out

Deleted User

bro gets stabbed when going out

Ye man streets are scary here

happened while downloading userscript manager

Deleted User

happened while downloading userscript manager

Make sure to install a userscript manager before clicking Install here on github

adelta

Make sure to install a userscript manager before clicking Install here on github

thanks

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yo

Yo

@Moderator i already write a ticket (edited)

yo, does anyone have greensward HD version?

@Route66 Honeycomb is such a great map

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Nitalp

@Route66 Honeycomb is such a great map

A FAT F3 to that statement, amazing map.

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ipoopi

ive played for multiple hours on other servers and still cant join

l2p, that should work

u

Nitalp

@Route66 Honeycomb is such a great map

Hello everyone I have a little problem I can't save rank on the map kog. I can't even accumulate points. as soon as I leave the map my rank is deleted when I return

12:20

anyone have a solution ?

poor guy

hey guys, how to change chat size?

ofc

Ban

ok

@Moderator ^

w

GG @Arin, you just advanced to level 2 !

@ipoopi ^

@~Nertato~

Done

eyo wtf

Wtf xd

Lmao

This guy

Some crazy bastard

Kog related videos be like

no reason

when only let people with the confirmed role upload files (edited)

Yup done

Arin 2022-05-08 13:41:28Z

Arin 2022-05-08 13:46:13Z

so how do you get whitelisted again for the +A srv?

14:22

because even if you play more than x minutes on kog it doesn't allow to join

14:22

pretty annoying

You have to login

being logged in also doesnt fix the problem

Just join FRA server, wait for the message "Successfully logged in", wait 5 more minutes, there you go

ahl

Idk if it changes since I left my place, but as far as I know you need to join FRA servs, log in (no !FAKE in your clan tag) and wait for about 5/10min then try to join A+ servs Worked just fine for me

^

It might be that the new version is not shipped to all servers yet

then maybe i didnt play earlier on FRA. it works for me now though

nah joining +A is literally rng

Avolicious

It might be that the new version is not shipped to all servers yet

Hi avo

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hey guys should i do a map

Yes

17:08

Mapping is better then playing

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cuz you suck and cant enjoy even hard maps where they can be creative

All your maps where declined not my bad if you suck at mapping

i havent tried to release a single map yet

i remember saw maps you made in testing rooms

only 1, and its still wip but mostly on pause due to exams

Cry

??

17:16

also no matter how good of a mapper you are it doesnt affect the enjoyment from mapping that much whereas being worse at the game means you can only play main maps that dont allow for much creativity

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Haven't read

read what

ok ill start mapping

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can a map even be officialy declined

ipoopi

can a map even be officialy declined

yes, it happens all the time

and do ppl just give up or try to improve it

17:21

or do they go for a new map instead

depends

ipoopi

can a map even be officialy declined

its ok

17:21

idc

Depends of how bad the map was

Deleted User

its ok

that wasnt related to u in any way, was just wondering

Deleted User

its ok

Yeah bro your first map will probably not be rls but it's okay dont give up

Nitalp

Yeah bro your first map will probably not be rls but it's okay dont give up

yea i understand

Nice

still too try its kinda cool

17:22

since its gores not ddrace

if the problem was the foundation/core mechanics of the map, then usually restarting is better. If it was just poor implementation, than reworking is probably the way to go

makes sense

Im currently making a basic mapping tutorial if you need it will be soon on YT

Nitalp

Im currently making a basic mapping tutorial if you need it will be soon on YT

oh matte is ur map

Indeed

Nitalp

Im currently making a basic mapping tutorial if you need it will be soon on YT

use brume as an example kekw

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if u can tell which maps are enjoyable to play and which arent then it shouldnt be hard to spot the good and bad sides and apply that to ur map

Its not that easy ahaha

so if u have some gores experience it shouldnt be hard to make a good map

ipoopi

if u can tell which maps are enjoyable to play and which arent then it shouldnt be hard to spot the good and bad sides and apply that to ur map

there's way more that goes into mapping than just, "this is good" or "this is bad"

i dont think so

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17:25

if u test ur map and it doesnt feel as good as other good released maps then u indetify the problem and change ur map

Firsts maps of insane players are often awful, i've tested some

released or not

Not released these maps were made by french players

cuz the first non-tested version isnt a finished map

FJP

there's way more that goes into mapping than just, "this is good" or "this is bad"

like what

ipoopi

cuz the first non-tested version isnt a finished map

your goal should be that it is in its final version before testing

ipoopi

like what

Without getting into design, the idea of having a balanced map is generally the main problem I see with newer mappers, whether they are good at the game or not

FJP

there's way more that goes into mapping than just, "this is good" or "this is bad"

a map is either good or bad

17:28

or mid

just because parts feel good doesn't mean the map is cohesive

17:29

thematic material is what connects parts

ofc

17:29

if the map isnt cohesive then it falls into the "this is bad"

well if thats how you want to put it, then thats fine

17:30

but what Im saying is that if I just popped in to your mapping chat, and said "this map is bad" it wouldn't be the best criticism

You should listen to people that have experience

FJP

but what Im saying is that if I just popped in to your mapping chat, and said "this map is bad" it wouldn't be the best criticism

ofc

17:32

but if i thought that my map is bad, no matter for what reason, then i wouldnt try to release it

ipoopi

if u can tell which maps are enjoyable to play and which arent then it shouldnt be hard to spot the good and bad sides and apply that to ur map

so back to this, if you know that a map is bad then you just change stuff

So you think people are sending maps that they dont even like ?

its pretty hard to test a map in multiplayer without sending it first

Trashmap

so in my case i sent it and when testing it with others i found that its too hard and bad

Test it on lan map first

ye i tested in solo a lot

If you are good at the game enough you can spot alone wich part are okay or not

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17:35

Also takes practice

my main problems with the map was: not enough saving space and hard to b, both of which are more visible when testing multiplayer

Use your dummy if you can't spot alone

17:36

And also run the map backward

also it was way too hard but thats not really a flaw but rather it wasnt what i intended

17:37

its not the same with dummy because you cant take into account how much space the saved player has (edited)

If I can test alone on my hard maps the saving spots with my main level, you can too (edited)

17:38

Stop finding excuses

17:38

Or just dont map

Nitalp

And also run the map backward

fair enough. originally i thought its not a big deal if its saveable when going b

It is

yea ik now

If you have any questions write in mapping chatroom

i dont

So why are you talking

why not (edited)

Cauz what you said is useless

17:40

Arguing for nothing

we're talking about sending unfinished maps to get more testing and opinions

17:41

which isnt exactly the mapping itself

"4. Your maps are at a final version with all bugs fixed"

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17:41

If you want your map to be tested while its not finished, send it into mapping-chatroom

17:41

hm

17:42

then you can count my map as having been declined and is wip rn

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bro just send it in the mapping chatroom and il take a look

?

17:43

youre in the testing channel of the map

oh you mean that map

but i dont really need a look

17:44

ik what to do with the map

ipoopi

but i dont really need a look

anymore*

then do it and upload the new file

ye

17:44

once exams are over

17:44

probably

the testers can wait. c has been in testing for over a year

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at what point does a map get completely declined and the submission removed from #deleted-channel

17:46

and from the test servers

When tester think the map is not worth to work on it

just ping a tester and ask them to remove it if you really want it

kog is cringe

17:53

ddrace is

Nitalp

If you are good at the game enough you can spot alone wich part are okay or not

To be honest, it’s false. I don’t think there even one mapper who is able to spot each aspect of gameplay without looking a team playing it

18:49

There are too much factor which you can’t see solo and even more if you tried out your map more than 50 times

18:49

You can’t simulate the discover feeling of your own map, and this factor is quite important on team to know about how fast player will wait, how slow player will block ect.. (edited)

ƒirewave

To be honest, it’s false. I don’t think there even one mapper who is able to spot each aspect of gameplay without looking a team playing it

I've made my hard maps alone and nobody said my save spots are bad or too small, maybe i'm a genius ? (joke) I think it is probably different for insane maps, but it works for me for hard, main and easy maps.

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18:54

+ Everybody has different ways to map and to test, it works for me maybe not for you thats all

Nitalp

I've made my hard maps alone and nobody said my save spots are bad or too small, maybe i'm a genius ? (joke) I think it is probably different for insane maps, but it works for me for hard, main and easy maps.

I don’t say it’s impossible to imagine, but even tester can’t know 100% how the map will be played. More experience you have more real will be your imagination, but tw is too special for a perfect detection (edited)

18:56

If you do it well then that’s nice for you but it’s still not at 100% (imo)

ƒirewave

I don’t say it’s impossible to imagine, but even tester can’t know 100% how the map will be played. More experience you have more real will be your imagination, but tw is too special for a perfect detection (edited)

Not 100 but 95% is already a good percentage, what I mean is on all the map I've made, only on a easy map testing with players was useful for me, I've indeed added an arrow, that's all

18:57

Everybody has different way to map, I've understood that after having collaborated with different mappers

Nitalp

Everybody has different way to map, I've understood that after having collaborated with different mappers

I won’t contest that haha

So don't say what I say is false, just that you do not agree

False for me, it’s the same xD

For you indeed

Well you agreed on 95% trollet

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hi