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Between 2021-07-24 00:00:00Z and 2021-07-25 00:00:00Z

duyen.

@crack

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when pdf

upp

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peperage

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OMG AVOILIOUS UR THE BEST

10:12

Can u make Somewhere to donate ?

You want to support us? You can do so by donating to https://www.paypal.me/kogtw, would be awesome and helps us to cover server costs & expand by getting new servers

YE OFC I WANT TO

10:17

I will when kog 2.0 will rls :)

Q2 2022

10:18

Q2/Q3 2022

Q ?

10:18

Ah

10:18

Quarter

10:19

Omg

10:19

I ll donate a little now

10:19

And a lot when rls

Quarters The calendar year can be divided into four quarters, often abbreviated as Q1, Q2, Q3, and Q4.

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In Gregorian calendar:

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First quarter, Q1: 1 January – 31 March (90 days or 91 days in leap years) Second quarter, Q2: 1 April – 30 June (91 days) Third quarter, Q3: 1 July – 30 September (92 days) Fourth quarter, Q4: 1 October – 31 December (92 days) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_year

Xd

I have Big idea

guys, what are the best maps to practice dummy drags/saves?

How many points do you have ?

10:45

If u play main and start hard i think somethink like vigourously or zonsa4lucky could be cool

10:45

Else if you are not enough good you Can train on aipgores

k

10:48

I have 450 points

10:48

thanks, ill check those out

10:49

i play mostly main, I can play hard but im not the best, more than 2 star hard is tough for me

Play on Alone (edited)

@Liammm check out dummy maps in MOD section

Migget

@Liammm check out dummy maps in MOD section

yea, thats what i was planning to do. Thanks : )

Will finishes/times be deleted?

Tee-Shirt

Will finishes/times be deleted?

What do you mean?

11:15

In KoG 2.0?

Are my finishes gonna be deleted?

No, all finishes will be transferred to your new account after creation.

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11:23

Only cheated finishes will be deleted within this process

feelssurprisedman

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Liammm

guys, what are the best maps to practice dummy drags/saves?

best way is

11:29

playing in test servers

11:29

and with super and unsuper binds trying same saves

I just finished the pdf. Amazing work

Liammm

guys, what are the best maps to practice dummy drags/saves?

ddnet anim, savannadrag 1-4, rod slide

11:35

for dummy drag you need to improve your aim, the technique part is the easiest that will improve by time

11:36

you also can play ictf or fng

@Avolicious hello, i have read the entire PDF with great interest and really appreciate the great effort that went into it. I am already really hyped about the things we will experience in the future (especially the clan system, competitive ranks and elections), but i do have some questions regarding specific topics. In the topic "clan wars" on page 10 it is said that clans can compete against each other and can set a price pool themselves however i think this has a great risk of being abused. Clans could make the other clan win and boost them with coins so that clan buy a coin bonus or something else and in return that clan will do the same to the other clan so they could boost each other in many regards. Are there already counter measures in place/planning or will those clan wars be moderated? Clan wars are a nice idea but i have the concern that they might lead to boosting for shop earnings. Another thing would be the server feedback feature on page 19 where people can write feedback about the quality of servers. I know that it is already said that this feature shouldnt get abused but i dont think there is any way at all that people wont abuse it as many people will blindly rage when they experience a ddos or are having lags which are not the servers fault. In my opinion it would be a better idea to exclude this feature from the major public since most people wouldnt know when to correctly use this feedback feature and people who know how good feedback works could write a more serious feedback to the admin teams on discord or via the website. Those are all my concerns until now. I wish you guys great luck with the project and i will make sure to participate in it as best as i can. Kind regards.

pog

Deleted User

ddnet anim, savannadrag 1-4, rod slide

Thanks!

Knuski

@Avolicious hello, i have read the entire PDF with great interest and really appreciate the great effort that went into it. I am already really hyped about the things we will experience in the future (especially the clan system, competitive ranks and elections), but i do have some questions regarding specific topics. In the topic "clan wars" on page 10 it is said that clans can compete against each other and can set a price pool themselves however i think this has a great risk of being abused. Clans could make the other clan win and boost them with coins so that clan buy a coin bonus or something else and in return that clan will do the same to the other clan so they could boost each other in many regards. Are there already counter measures in place/planning or will those clan wars be moderated? Clan wars are a nice idea but i have the concern that they might lead to boosting for shop earnings. Another thing would be the server feedback feature on page 19 where people can write feedback about the quality of servers. I know that it is already said that this feature shouldnt get abused but i dont think there is any way at all that people wont abuse it as many people will blindly rage when they experience a ddos or are having lags which are not the servers fault. In my opinion it would be a better idea to exclude this feature from the major public since most people wouldnt know when to correctly use this feedback feature and people who know how good feedback works could write a more serious feedback to the admin teams on discord or via the website. Those are all my concerns until now. I wish you guys great luck with the project and i will make sure to participate in it as best as i can. Kind regards.

Everything that happens within the new system is being monitored, moderators can keep track of clan wars, so players can. If you see any abuse, you can report it & both clans will be locked from the use of those systems. About the feedback system. If ddos happens, it will be shown in the feedback report itself. We already do have some counter-(d)dos measurements during ddos, but they have to be tested first. Everything is time-consuming

Overall, thanks for the feedback

11:43

Just for clarification: Every thing you'll do on our servers is being logged in kog 2.0. So moderators/administrators do have a full insight in your player/clan activity. ( thanks to the account system )

Thanks for the quick response

the prestige idea is genius

12:13

can we make legs so we can teabag on failed tees pls

ban

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upp

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oele

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12:14

waat

12:20

Can player create tournaments maps ?

Cheated himalaya runs deleted KoG2?

kek

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Deleted User

Can player create tournaments maps ?

everyone can yes

Niceeeeee

Deploid

Cheated himalaya runs deleted KoG2?

no, we admire the effort and the creativity of these players. troll

troll

kek

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troll

12:33

i want to report myself for cheating himalaya

12:34

it was before the fix was applied xd

12:34

i think i was one of the first to do it lol

thats a perma

12:34

sorry dude

justatest

12:35

but i think its still cheatable with good movement

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dont chot

12:35

stop being nobo

feelsbadman

12:35

but it was tempting

12:35

i first tried the long 1 tile tho!

you chot

12:36

it doesnt count

pepeH

12:36

i know xd

how to chot it

12:36

can u show me later?

it was partially fixed

12:36

the pullers werent long enough to reach xD

12:37

i think it can still be cheated with luck

12:37

i can show u later yes

12:37

will see if its still cheatable

feelswarmman

my rank still there qtroll

qtroll

when KOG 3.0 ? blobchain

blobchain

@Deleted User will all the himalaya ranks really be checked for cheaters?

12:42

and if those cheaters get detected will they only lose rank or is there a worse punishment?

just lose rank imo

Knuski

and if those cheaters get detected will they only lose rank or is there a worse punishment?

oh u cheated himalaya? enjoy 1 year hardware ban

its just a way to show that the map is cheatable, but highly appreciated if you show the cheat before you chot

12:45

well thats my opinion tho

i want to be an honest member of kog 2.0 xusep

xusep

12:47

do u have full demos of the runs? justatest

justatest

justatest

well if you're able to "cheat" a map without external help I think its fine, but should still be removed from records monkagun

monkagun

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i had a chot partner and i know others who choted justatest

justatest

triplemonkas

im a stoopid monkey player so im amazed by these creative chots

the team finish on himalaya was also already deleted right

12:51

team finishing the map is way harder tho

12:52

but only way both will make it

team finishes are still there last I checked this week

imo doing a dummy map not intended way but with deep freeze skip isnt fine but whatever, its just a 10 points map

alright who do i contact to delete the cheated ranks and fix the skips xd

crack

tag monkeydream

troll

qtroll

monkaT

crack is online

13:00

hide

13:01

monkaT

im suprised the team ranks didnt get deleted if its true what deploid pointed out

13:01

feelsscary

it was knuski i swear

13:01

monkaT

zoozer

Knuski

alright who do i contact to delete the cheated ranks and fix the skips xd

tag qshar

ban

13:05

3 times

troll

orange logo, "make kog great again" justatest

justatest

happytrump

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16:05

any thought of allowing individual players to set their own coin rate instead of the clan leader?

No, if you do have the permission to set clan rates, everyone in the clan could set it

16:06

but individual clan rates are kinda useless

Just finished reading it

16:07

Sounds exciting @Avolicious !

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16:07

idk if it's a great idea to let ppl buy into tournament designer

Its only 1 season

16:08

You can request your tournament, but administration / event moderation has to approve the tournament

16:09

But as the tournament designer is experimental, i dont want everyone access it yet

16:09

only people who can afford wasting their coins

Eagle_Vision

Sounds exciting @Avolicious !

Awesome

i would think its better to get good mappers or tester rather than just pros who will have a lot of coins

I guess I would have to describe it a bit better Tournament designers is the way to design tournaments Set rules Set price pools Set tournament maps Set teamsizes ... and so on It has nothing todo with mapping. You have to pick a already released or finished map for your tournament

16:11

But this system allows us to host tournaments without administration

16:12

Elected moderators can moderate tournaments without any effort of hosting and stuff

16:12

Servers will start in all regions, you dont have to be on all servers all the time, because the system keeps track of all tournament servers

16:13

Automated anti-cheat+ applies

16:13

And so on

16:13

Its just the tool to get tournaments up & have a list when tournaments take place

16:13

Because I dont wanna manage such stuff in future

Everything should be community controlled ( atleast thats the goal )

ah i see

BUT Tournaments have to be approved by any team member ( because otherwise we would have tournaments all day long, i know this community

)

trollet

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Random fact: @Avolicious used

about 285 times since October of 2019

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Noe

Random fact: @Avolicious used

about 285 times since October of 2019

Best smiley

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Avolicious

Only cheated finishes will be deleted within this process

What do you mean when you say "cheated finishes" Because if a deep-skip in Himalaya count as cheated rank then lot of maps were cheated in t0

waat

best event

@ƒirewave there are teamfinishes on himalaya, those are the one i would call "cheated" more than the others

18:04

but not sure what the admin team think feelsstrangeman

feelsstrangeman

ƒirewave

What do you mean when you say "cheated finishes" Because if a deep-skip in Himalaya count as cheated rank then lot of maps were cheated in t0

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kek

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feelscryman

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kek

who can give me mivv gamepack pls ?

anzi

who can give me mivv gamepack pls ?

Mivv?

ye

Yes, ask Mivv xd

idk where is it xD

18:50

i think he dispawn of this world (edited)

search on data discord

Thank you for all the great work and effort @Avolicious I am hyped to see the results

upp

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Tee-Shirt

Thank you for all the great work and effort @Avolicious I am hyped to see the results

Thanks

This is an achievement from all of our team members. We tried to gather all feedback from the past couple of months & combine them in a useful manner

Noe

Random fact: @Avolicious used

about 285 times since October of 2019

+2 more, maybe we add such counter on the website

upp

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Avolicious

+2 more, maybe we add such counter on the website

Great idea

Deploid

@ƒirewave there are teamfinishes on himalaya, those are the one i would call "cheated" more than the others

Yup but we should think about what count as it, is it the way ? or what does it do ? Because there are multiple maps which you can't beat the r1 in a normal way but it doesn't count similar as Himalaya

himalaya is in a special place xd there are no other maps except dummy maps where deepfly skips are of any importance. skipping the deep in himalaya gives u a free finish basically because u cant even fail on it

Hey, i forgot my kog passeword ? can i have a backup ? ^^'

20:59

idk how to get it

Forgot password? https://qshar.com/reset_password.php

thank's !

I dont think clan xp should come from taking a % of player xp because it disincentives being in a clan and it will make the highest ranked clans the ones who sacrificed all their player xp instead of the best/most active clan

You dont have to be in such a clan if they try to get all your XP

21:07

Good clan leaders will handle their taxes well, because as a clan leader you want good members

21:08

but without any sort of contribution, you cant go for clan wars & stuff

highest taxes in my clan, feel invited

And if player gets only rewards then the system will be killed after 2 months

what?

TL;DR; You have to remove coins/xp from players to keep the system running

Coins are fine but I dont think the xp should be like that because people who may actually be in the same clan might choose not to register in order to keep all their xp which is something I don't think players should need to consider.

not to register?

21:11

What do you mean by that?

like they are already in a clan outside of kog

Ehm okay

but they dont want to register it on kog to keep their xp

GG @Tater, you just advanced to level 6 !

??????

21:12

You can still use clan tags as before

21:12

but if a clan claims a clantag on kog you cant use it without being in the clan

What is the issue with making clan xp not take from the player xp? That way it represents how active your clan members are and not your tax rate

Well, this is how this system works xd

21:15

Clan XP will be removed from players xp

yes but why, I would rather have clans without that

Please lets not invent two different XP systems

21:16

Clans without leveling up?

Clans where the xp is not taken from the player it just gets duplicated for the clan. Like if a player is not in a clan they get 15xp and their clan gets 0xp because they are not in one. But if a player joins a clan then they still get 15xp but their clan also gets 15xp or a portion like 5xp

I guess you missunderstood

21:19

Clan XP is calculated with a given % of your player xp on a per map basis

21:20

If you finish 10 maps with 20xp & the clan tax rate is set to 50%, you'll have 10*20 = 200 / 50% -> 100XP = 100 player xp / 100 clan xp

21:21

Like if a player is not in a clan they get 15xp and their clan gets 0xp

Exactly, if you dont have a clan, your "clan" gets 0XP

21:21

But if a player joins a clan then they still get 15xp but their clan also gets 15xp or a portion like 5xp

No, because the 15XP are recalculated to the amount after the clan taxes

I know I'm saying I dont think it should work that way, it should just give the full xp to the clan and the player

21:21

Why does there need to be taxes

Its a long-term system

21:22

Not made for 3 months

21:22

We dont want you to reach lvl 50 after 3 days

21:22

and nor clan levels

21:22

And doing a linear level system is also bullshit

21:23

This is tricky

There are a lot of game designs out there, you can checkout. Many of them introduce such system because it keeps players attention

upp

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21:23

If you're a team player, you dont have any problem by giving 80% of your collected xp to your clan

21:23

But if you're a solo player you dont want to give away any XP

21:23

Which is totally fine, but you miss the clan experience then

21:24

Gores is mainly a team mode, or atleast should be considered as

upp

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Why not let players decide how much they want to give to their clan so if some people in the clan want to give a lot and others a little then they can still be in the same clan (edited)

Because this would kill the clan system

21:25

Why dont have competitors?

21:25

Clan advertisements

I dont understand what you mean

Why shall a player decide how much he wanna donate to his clan?

21:26

Clans should be competitive

21:26

You can go for a fun clan, but you wont be on a competitive level then

upp

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clans can set a minimum rate but if the player wants to give more why not let them?

This is the basic idea behind this clan system

21:26

He can

21:26

Maybe you should re-read

21:27

Furthermore, besides the regular rates set by the clan leader or an authorized person, you have the possibility to make one-time payments to the clan bank. But be careful, you cannot pay out coins.

21:27

Bank system

21:27

It is for coins only, but XP seems to me very useless

21:28

Because then the system gets tricky, if you level up to lvl 40 & spend 1000 XP -> you'll get a lower level again

21:29

So lets imagine, with level 40 you gain access to an achievement: "You hit level 40! Master-Gores-Player" Now you got the achievement & spend all your xp to a clan -> lvl 0 again but Level 40 achievement?

Maybe im blind but I didnt saw if you talked about the 1v1 maps and how it works ?

Deleted User

Maybe im blind but I didnt saw if you talked about the 1v1 maps and how it works ?

It is not official part of kog 2.0

Oh

feelsbadman

Its an additional mode, checkout Servers

But will it be added with 2.0 or after ?

I'm saying if your clan sets the xp tax to 10% what if the player was able to increase their own tax to 50% so they can contribute more when they finish maps?

Deleted User

But will it be added with 2.0 or after ?

Dont know if its available at launch, because we do have a lot other systems, but we're working on it

You dont transfer xp, just xp from map finishes

Tater

I'm saying if your clan sets the xp tax to 10% what if the player was able to increase their own tax to 50% so they can contribute more when they finish maps?

Why would a player do that? There would be no communication within the clan then

Avolicious

Dont know if its available at launch, because we do have a lot other systems, but we're working on it

okay nice thanks

Clan leader can ask his players if he can raise the clan taxes -> results in more communication

21:31

Communication is more fun

21:32

If every player can set his own xp rate, the whole system is pointless

21:32

No communication, because everyone would play like without being in a clan

upp

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Why would they join the clan if they dont want to communicate, they can talk about things other than the xp rate

They still can talk about other topics

21:33

It was just an example

21:33

But this keeps things alive

21:33

More interaction between clan members

21:34

The same between us now, discussion

21:34

This keep things rollin'

System that makes players interact with each other are good

https://www.davideaversa.it/blog/gamedesign-math-rpg-level-based-progression/

GameDesign Math: RPG Level-based Progression

Level-based progression is an extremely popular way of providing the player with the feeling of “getting stronger.” The system is born with Role-Playing Games (RPG), but it is nowadays embedded in practically every game; some more, some less. Even if it is entirely possible to provide progression feeling without levels and experience points, lev...

21:41

Might be interesting

21:42

I like the sentence

Time and experience are linked together and modeling the experience curve can give you a lot of insight on how to avoid “grindy” parts in you game and keep the player in the flow.

This is exactly what we're trying to avoid

21:42

Grinding

21:42

@Mixi

Grinding? Never did that

kek

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does finishing the same map twice give coins and xp

First finish gives more XP/Coins, but yes re-finishing them will give you a percentage, which lowers each time you finish

22:46

This avoids grinding

what

23:12

xp/coins ?

23:12

what is that thing again

#news

@Avolicious mach Q&A Channel auf wegen deiner PDF da

23:25

sonst werden es täglich 30 mal mehr pings wegen fragen kekw

kekw

23:26

Lass deine mods mal bisschen was machen die faulenzer (mit spaß nehmen) (edited)

what did I just read

how do i set my dummy to hammer me when i fire?

kairo

how do i set my dummy to hammer me when i fire?

https://youtu.be/mybb4oIxfZU

DDRACE Rainbow Skin and Key Binds

23:43

Use this its really good

thank you <3

GG @kairo, you just advanced to level 1 !

nice new logo

23:56

when kog 3.0? (edited)

upp

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hmm maybe special achievement for finishing same map 1000 times

oele

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23:56

Avo pls

23:56

nerdge

<< grinding machine >>

Mixi

hmm maybe special achievement for finishing same map 1000 times

Gummi would get that

23:58

One time achievement

23:58

for special pepos

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