|*KoG*| King of Gores - general

@q what happened to the servers? xd

server bugs? why is -999 my record (edited)

kog bag

/ⒹⓘⓜⒶ

server bugs? why is -999 my record (edited)

Someone was working on updating qshar's mod to the latest ddnet version since its outdated af since years, but they seem to fail xD

fokkonaut

Someone was working on updating qshar's mod to the latest ddnet version since its outdated af since years, but they seem to fail xD

Nope, its not the latest ddnet version

08:34

But I guess changing the Gametype from DDraceNetwork to Gores kills the ddnet features

08:34

funny xddd

It doesnt kill them if done correctly

08:35

But the base of qshars mod is 9.3.1, thats simply too old

Nah

and honestly, i dont see the problem with updating to the latest version...

Avolicious

Nah

yes it is xD

Nope it isnt

you seem to have no clue

Avolicious

But I guess changing the Gametype from DDraceNetwork to Gores kills the ddnet features

^

It worked for years & will work for years

Of course it worked for years, because the gametype hasnt changed

GG @fokkonaut, you just advanced to level 8 !

You yourself told me you tried to update it but didn't succeed, so why are you now just going back to the old version and rename it

It is the old version xd

Thats what i just said

On BETA we got the latest ddnet version + all kog features

there is no beta server^^

Because it only starts manually

08:38

Not 24/7

Amazing, so why dont you publish it?

Because we're still working on it?

The current situation is very very bad tho :D

Avolicious

Because we're still working on it?

Give me a day, I will do it

2

08:40

I cant watch this any longer :D

08:40

KoG is outdated since years and you are working on this for half a year or something now xd

2

where test srv

I cant watch this any longer :D

@fokkonaut pls remember that he doesn't get any money for the work, he's doing it in his free time so stfu

10:51

Stop complaining (edited)

cry more

U r crying

i do stuff in my free time too, im just saying that he has no idea what hes doing

lmao

10:56

just stop talking

no u

10:56

i ported ddnet in 20 hours to 0.7

10:56

whatever your next message will be, it will be trash :)

Who cares

knew it

@fokkonaut sad would be cool if u help them but they have closed source xdd

2

i know right

10:57

i already asked to help, only got a "no thanks, we have everything DONE already" xD

2

bruh moment

fokkonaut

i ported ddnet in 20 hours to 0.7

Awesome, thanks for that

gores players are so toxic

3

1

1

10:58

most of them

ego

some of them

most

10:58

toxic and ego, thats right

I don't get why he was mad at you @fokkonaut

if they are ego why are they so huge tean 0 teams so often

Meraki

I don't get why he was mad at you @fokkonaut

me neither

there*

Samuel

if they are ego why are they so huge tean 0 teams so often

its not about the size of the team, its about how they interact with each other

Avolicious

Awesome, thanks for that

You knew that already, I told you that when I offered you my help (edited)

Blocker > Gores ( toxic level )

fokkonaut

You knew that already, I told you that when I offered you my help (edited)

We're thankful for the offer, we're discussing internally

That doesn't change the fact that gores players are toxic and egoistic, and also doesnt make it better

Avolicious

Blocker > Gores ( toxic level )

i agree with that^^

Avolicious

We're thankful for the offer, we're discussing internally

3 months of discussion already?

fokkonaut

3 months of discussion already?

Why are you pushing?

11:01

Whats your intention

11:01

Thats what I personally dont like about you

I dont know why, and I am really sad about that, but KoG is just a very unorganized place, I wish DDNet would host all the Gores maps too.

Technically they could

Avolicious

Whats your intention

I have no intention and neither i am pushing, you didnt even say something like "we're discussing it" or something, you just said no, lol, dont move around the facts

fokkonaut

i already asked to help, only got a "no thanks, we have everything DONE already" xD

^

11:03

I just offered my help to make KoG a somewhat better place, and not one that is full of old code and misses new features (for me a key feature is to have the spec-character visible in kog like in ddnet)

fokkonaut

You knew that already, I told you that when I offered you my help (edited)

Maybe kog administration care more about bots and bug exploits than DDnet and then they prefer keep their code safe from everyone

That does not change anything

11:03

DDNet has an antibot library, which is private

Thanks for the offer once more fokkonaut

11:04

If we say no, then its no. Easy as that

11:04

If we're discussing, we're discussing

11:04

Dont get the problem at this point

Well I was on both community and I never had the feeling in ddnet that bot was a priority

I dont have a problem whether I help or not, but what I dislike a lot and what proves my thought about the chaotic KoG, is that you swap facts as you wish

1

ƒirewave

Well I was on both community and I never had the feeling in ddnet that bot was a priority

It always has been; cheated ranks always got removed and moderators always banned botters

11:07

Now with the antibot its even possible to detect bots after the fact, so after they already left again

11:08

Maybe you guys over here should check whats happening on DDNet here and there, not sure why you are such a separated community (might have to do with the egoism and the toxicity)

fokkonaut

It always has been; cheated ranks always got removed and moderators always banned botters

I’m maybe wrong, it’s only my view. Anyway, keep the code safe is the best way to avoid this

why would you discuss this on the public kog discord? you already got an answer that they are discussing about the offer, so why would you discuss for no reason? wouldnt it be better to have a friendly relationship, when you want to help (which is a nice thing)

ƒirewave

I’m maybe wrong, it’s only my view. Anyway, keep the code safe is the best way to avoid this

Keeping code private and hoping that nobody will find out exploits is a bad way to go xD

Thanks for your input fokko

11:09

Gores is a niche like blocker or fng

drama.

why would you discuss this on the public kog discord? you already got an answer that they are discussing about the offer, so why would you discuss for no reason? wouldnt it be better to have a friendly relationship, when you want to help (which is a nice thing)

I dont even know why all of you think that I still want to help, from what I wrote it would more look like I dont wanna help anymore xD

Its okay

(I asked once, that was when the answer I got was no from Avo)

fokkonaut

I dont even know why all of you think that I still want to help, from what I wrote it would more look like I dont wanna help anymore xD

Because you said so and I thought thats the reason for this discussion.

Idk, there is no reason for this discussion, it just popped up (edited)

Avolicious

We're thankful for the offer, we're discussing internally

^ But it seems they discuss about it so that could be interesting no?

If it is like Avo says, it could be, but I can't think of any reason they would discuss anything, because I got a clear no from Avo back then

Because you rushy. Discussion cant be done in 1 week. The administration team is busy cuz of real life ( going to work, studying and so on )

You dont get the point, right?

11:14

I am saying, that you explicitly told me that you dont need help with it, then you can't come a few months later and say "we were discussing it all the time"

1

11:14

lol

11:15

(also, its not rushing after a few months xD)

1

We're not discussing that you would get access to the source. Its more or less how we can provide a better source mangement

11:15

Maybe open source

11:15

We dont know yet

11:16

Several people asked me that they want to contribute

Does KoG have antibot specific parts in the code?

Yes it does

If yes, the best would be to handle that as a private library and only providing the calls to the antibot functions in the public source

Thanks for the input

Added to our bucket list

just look how ddnet has done it btw

is it possible to download a replay of a finish as a normal video?

if you recorded it before

ye I did

then yes

okay and how..?

either play it and record ur screen, or use ddnet client and convert it

1

Syntax

lmao

Mr. lmao stop talking

I use ddnet but I never converted a video before, how does that work?

Syntax

I use ddnet but I never converted a video before, how does that work?

You open that demo, then bottom right should be a button somewhere

11:21

Ah ye

11:21

I already rendered the replay

11:21

But can't find the file now

11:21

:D

then its saved as .mp4

In the demo folder?

11:21

probably here (edited)

Hmm, nothing changed there.. only demo files

check f1

11:22

after rendering

11:22

there might be some output?

I need to check that

11:22

ty

AppData\Roaming\Teeworlds\videos

1

fokkonaut

I am saying, that you explicitly told me that you dont need help with it, then you can't come a few months later and say "we were discussing it all the time"

they are discussing everything for years and nothing happens xD

Exactly, since QshaR pretty much left its even worse

QshaR is not gone, he's still here

Probably not as active as before, otherwise he would have done the updateing process for his mod :)

He is still active, but he's a busy man.