|*KoG*| King of Gores - general

@q why did roco change name twice in one year? Rules says u can change once in 3 years

new rule

We made exception in that specific case cause he just changed back and ppl probably know him more by his old name anyways

FV

02:49

false positive kek

banned by his own anti bot

qshar made kog antibot

02:50

i only made the fng one

bots just don't like to play on KoG. Thats why they leave the server after joining it.

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ban bots

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09:11

5000 sec ?

Lmao

Vote change map

Hi

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Yes 5000 secs

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You can turn off this

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It's fun vote

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Do not change map

So you guys can make a exception in such a case but not let a mapper keep his map like he wants because he gotta follow the rules

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@binbaldweg (bzw) you can keep it as you want but then your map doesn't get released

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really

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Yes

FlipLipp CEO of saying "Yes" in #general_chatroom

Yep

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I will start with little variations

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@benz, Welcome to |KoG| Teeworlds Community! Have a great time here feelsamazingman

yes

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GG @louis, you just advanced to level 18 !

louis

Lul

We made exception in that specific case cause he just changed back and ppl probably know him more by his old name anyways

@Hawerer AHEM AHEM just sayin

Terston thats two differents things

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Stop compare Maps and Names

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releasing a shit map which affects for ever

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or changing name which nobody caresa bout

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rules are rules lol

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and exception is exception

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the rules where the thing u guys were fighting about

Stop compare Maps and Names

@blim exceptions are exceptions

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releasing a shit map which affects for ever

@J$ON shit map? ur opinion or just being toxic. just wondering

Stop care about other names, it doesn't effect you anyway

so if u let terston keep his map like it was (edited)

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or changing name which nobody caresa bout @J$ON my whole point was that noone will care about that lol

it wouldnt affect other ?

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@Terston i didnt say your map is shit

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man idc

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stop xd

syltoox troll

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Nice comparison, that one dude was able to change his name after only waiting 6 months instead of 3 years, so i want to get my map released for that (edited)

@Omezurion, Welcome to |KoG| Teeworlds Community! Have a great time here feelsamazingman

Hello everyone I want to know how to leave Team FAKE in kog I want to leave

You need to register

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And then login

Yes I register

Then in tw /login <password>

Ok

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But I want to quit fake team because in ddnet I have fake for team and I want to Remove this clan

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If you are logged in its going away (edited)

OK th

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Thx

@Hawerer its about making an exception to break the rules. that exactly was the only thing you guys didnt want to happen

Still u cant compare different things xD

15:40

We wont get flodded by guys who already changed their names once, and want to change back to the original now

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And honsetly i didnt even know who redforce is but roco is well known

so u can break the rules if u are well known

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And besides that, 3 years is a time set kinda long as hell

u could think about that b4 making stupid rules

No u can break rules if ure the team that even made those rules i guess

15:42

Sorry we didnt make a whole constitution with law and order as some countries have for this f2p game thats called tw

Omesurion#3954 just left |KoG| Teeworlds Community! Traitor monkaS

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We had to make some kind of rules cause namechanging was a problem in the top points, and thats what we ended up with. Maybe not the best but its smthng (edited)

And besides that, 3 years is a time set kinda long as hell

@Hawerer dont you think alot of ur rules are kinda absurd? alot of people think this way, i asked.

Well then give feedback on what u think should be changed pls so we can take a look

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We wont get flodded by guys who already changed their names once, and want to change back to the original now

@Hawerer so how can u be that sure that mappers would cry about exceptions ?

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because that was the whole point of u guys not letting the map be

Nice comparison, that one dude was able to change his name after only waiting 6 months instead of 3 years, so i want to get my map released for that

@Hawerer also i wasnt saying that, and testeras are already happy with what i added. Im just saying that you are being 'hypocrites' in regarding to your 'no exceptions no matter what' rule. And even though diffferent topics are in hand, it could be compared as those both are minor exceptions.

You still compare Names and maps hm

Because i talked with enough mappers in private messages

we dont compare

15:52

we speak about rules

And qshar and other testers did too

talked about what?

@Hawerer so how can u be that sure that mappers would cry about exceptions ?

@binbaldweg (bzw)

15:52

I was talking about that

u were talking about what?

man you are just crying because you couldnt map your map like you wanted. the rule was there before you mapped it like that

The message i quoted

and the name thing is nothing what affects anyone

we are speaking about the exception to break rules

without forcing any opinions i think alot of mappers including qshar could agree that rules could be less strict in terms of releasing posting and editing a map.

and the map had nothing that would affect something for ever

Its that his map had tele which wasnt marked. it affects Designplayers

it doesnt

Tbh i dont even remember what the drama was with your map i forgot

and the name thing is nothing what affects anyone

@J$ON same with my situations tho.. thats what im saying. i dont mind it anymore honestly. its just hypocritical to do that

But i remember u were just discussing 20pages instead of just cooperating and making a little change

Also what would be a better rule in your opinion Terston/bzw? Where is the limit of mapper rules?

it would be a weird decision in your and other cases if there is no strict rule

15:56

about names its just not so strict, because it doesnt affect ANYONE

Well if anyone has a 300 page constitution of rules and law in teeworlds kog terms and conditions that is approved by 100% of the playerbase and no single one is against it, pls give

Also what would be a better rule in your opinion Terston/bzw? Where is the limit of mapper rules?

@J$ON The limit is what testers decide as they know best. Just be less strict about it, testers are strict to the every last word of the holy text of ur 'rules' which you apparently like to 'bend' a little.

Yes and they decided it like that

15:57

What is even your problem?

Can someone pls remind me what the map drama was about? I forgot

i just noted smthing you started this discussion xd

Ravie told you how to fix it and it doesnt even bother you as mapper

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and you are still crying bout it?

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because someone got an exception out of a rule, now you want it as well

https://www.change.org/justice-for-Terston4Bzw

Can someone pls remind me what the map drama was about? I forgot

@Hawerer

Sign the Petition

Please help bring JUSTICE to Gores map Terston4Bzw!!! <3 Make exception for Terston, Yall!

@Hawerer his map had unmarked tele

u can read all about it XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

U made a petition

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he want it to be unmarked

15:58

Oh it was about marking teleport lmao

if you would have read the rules, there wouldnt be this problem bro

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You have to read the mapper rules, tho you mapped it like that

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clearly your fault

roco shouldve too then

15:59

but he got a exception to break the rules

because someone got an exception out of a rule, now you want it as well

@J$ON i dont want anything regarding my map. i want you to be clear and not tell me 1 thing and than do another with other players (edited)

It affects no one that he changed it back to original

the thing terston changed wouldnt affect anyone

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no you clearly want the staff to change rules because Roco got an exception

yeah thats all im arguing fo

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Staff does right decisions, its not only one guy who decided it

and that was the one thing everybody didnt want in that map

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and exception

Well if u wanna argue on a rules side - you agreed to all rules in #deleted-channel top post by posting your mapfile in there If u wanna argue on an honest side - stop being needlessly stubborn pls and cooperate with ppl to find a solution everyone is ok with (thats a good tip for life im general)

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Just create a vote for it?

for what a vote?

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What is the question

what is this discussion here, how can someone get so triggered from someone else getting his old name back

read

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it

doesnt make any sense to me

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then u shouldnt ask

Ye just read back the mapthread too while youre at it, its only 300 messages feelswowman

this thread is enough

16:02

because we arent talking about the same than there

Gotta love discussions like this if youre doing anything on the internet lol (edited)

noone cares that he changed his name noone cares about the marking drama in terston4bzw what we care about is for you to stop saying 1 thing and do another - to not be hypocritical about staff, to be more clear with your rules, as apparently its fine to bend the rules for 1 topic but not for another even tho both are VERY VERY minimal exceptions

why not just be happy for Roco to get his name back

Look if it turns out to be a problem that roco changed back after a bit shorter penalty time - we will take a look and take changes accordingly. But until then we just let it go through as exception

u wouldn get it

16:03

joker face

noone cares that he changes his name im VERY happy for him honestly roco is bae

We will still be stronger on rules with some maps - because we had a lot of problems already (most of which not everyone sees the discussions cause their in pm's)

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Thats it. Deal with it pls and dont cry fifteen hours that u had to mark a teleporter

so dont u think.. its.. worth changing? xd if u had problems.

16:04

i just said noone cares about that already ffs

Its the best way to have strict rules in mapping, to not cause any bad mapped map/part

Well u do appearently cause ure discussing about it rn

its not the topic.

If it wasnt for u and bzw there wouldnt be a discussion rn (edited)

Staff should avoid changing things afterwards, thats why there are clear rules

noone cares that he changed his name

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noone cares about the marking drama in terston4bzw

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what we care about is for you to stop saying 1 thing and do another - to not be hypocritical about staff, to be more clear with your rules, as apparently its fine to bend the rules for 1 topic but not for another even tho both are VERY VERY minimal exceptions

@Terston .

16:05

also discussions are fun

It is hypocrite that roco changed his name back?

Ok please realize were all dudes with their own lives, who spend some hours on a game in their freetime (edited)

bro different rules/things

no its hypocritical for them accept it xd

Were not paid to establish law and order as full time job

Staff should avoid changing things afterwards, thats why there are clear rules

@J$ON what if we apply bad rules? please let us change rules afterwards :3

Rules can be changed

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but what should be changed now?

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ok guys u know what

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then add a rule: Staff can do exceptions how they like to

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16:07

if its triggering people now

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???

its not longer hypocrite then

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they can do that already

Exceptions can be made

Huge brain syltoox

But on staffs decision (edited)

Exceptions can be made

@J$ON not according to what i was told

It would fix the problem

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Yeah in ur case no exception was allowed terston

but that rule wouldnt be fair

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In rocos case it was

16:08

Not all cases are the same u know

Why wouldnt it be fair

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Staff has knowledge of game ofcourse

we wouldnt need that rule because its already doable

Rule is fair if they have rule of exceptions allowed according to testers, HOWEVER,

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that rule u just created,

Man, decisions cant be made in every case you people want it

Anyone got popcorn??

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The staff has to decide about it

Feeling kinda hungry for popcorn rn

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Thx

SO let the staff decide what should be done in what case

SO let the staff decide what should be done in what case

@J$ON cant argue with that

For what is the staff then

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You are still mad

Because else you wouldnt still argue bout that. you still want an exception inyour case, and testers said no. if they say afterwards yes, it can be done?

but its something u just brang to the table, it wasnt around when roco wanted to change his name or when the drama w/terston4bzw happaned So you cannot prove a point with rules you just created. However i agree that if you state it this way, and add it as a rule, there is nothing to argue about.

we already accepted that we had to change it . but the people who werea arguing against us in the terston4bzw thread were stating that rules should always be followed and that there wouldnt bhe any exceptions since people would ask afterwards. but now letting a player break the rules is dumb

i dont care anyway man

16:11

you guys started this

not rly

i care

i just noted smthing

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and u all wrote 100 msges

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i wasnt going to comment further xd

just delete rules

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let everyone do what they want

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lmao

chaos

If u werent going to comment further why are u replying to everything lol

cus u started it and its fun

GG @Terston, you just advanced to level 8 !

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Thats literal nonsense in a sentence

he wasnt planning to

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but he did

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thzat can happen

exactly

anywhere

i thought it was funny xd

Ye we didnt plan to make exceptions from namechange rule

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But we did

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That can happen

Checkmate

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Im out

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Lmao

xD

Fumm is admin its all his fault

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u checkmated urself making an exception (edited)

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SUXep

ZOOZti

the trolls arrived

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shut up @binbaldweg (bzw)

The trolls are here since the start already

#general_chatroom is back to talking nonsense and dumb shit

@Hawerer is a troll himself lbh

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Huge fakenews

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I am nottest troll according to trollvote

u rigged it

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Huge troll

Noby i huge troll

where #votes

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Its rip

@ᶰ°Konͧsti thats what a troll would say

But we saved screen of the vote

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kog mod/admin team removed #votes cuz they are the biggest troll themselves

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16:16

checkmate

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kog exposed

I like you xusep you are like my spirit animal

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Wtf

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KONSI

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OMFG

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U REMEMBER ME

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CAKELORD

I wasnt cakelord xD

dude i used to spamm u cakes 2 years ago

no

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u spammed cakes but to someone else

no.

yes

incorrect. You just bad memmory smol pp person

u

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Torsten ist The biggest troll

but 1 real question

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when KoG tiktok account

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@fel

i need qshar onlyfans

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fam that would be too hot to be real

16:22

you should create him a drawing like u did 4 me

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and stop faking me

@binbaldweg (bzw) damm you are so ignorant and throwing lame reasons. It reminds me of the demonstrations in holland about black lives matters. They totally miss the original goal and are only throwing wood on the fire called racism

Yea

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Man this was something to read

okok i accept

Yo

could u point them out and ehm

16:48

give a contra argument

Didn't even read everything

who cares if u mark a teleporter or not

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So Ok bzw you are saying the main problem is that for changing the map the main argument was that rules had to be followed but actually I think that’s not true. To mark something that is a representation of an effect that will happen to you if you get to the „gametile“ is basically the basic of mapping. U give a design a meaning. There should not be a meaning that u cannot see. Maybe the argument to follow the rules was used but not meant. Because in cases of mapping I think there would be exceptions too but just not In the case of marking a Tele tile. It’s like playing counterstrike and u run into something which is a wall but u can’t see it because they didn’t overlay the „game tile „ / Tele tile with a mark

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However changing a nick name is made an exception in this very case that made sense for us (staff) to do

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Yop

just remove the tele if ur supposed to mark everything

16:56

its not like ppl will actually fail there unless someone blocks them

louis wait

They were just too lazy to explain and also to argument with you about mapping is kinda tough and that’s why they just said follow the rules

yes i can understand and i dont really want to get into the map thing since that aint what we talked about

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i accept

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but it was a topic in the terston4bzw thread

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and there were arguments flying everywhere

arguments were hammer flying

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Yea man

5 days in forest with 10l of vodka

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i will after ask donate to help my health

sell the vodka and buy water

Hmm

18:01

Good idea

better for health

You can buy juice too

invest in kog (edited)

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The problem is that he'd probably just take Roco back again, start his points all over again, and there will RedForce remaining which will keep a place in the top ranks which we don't want