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Between 2019-12-25 00:00:00Z and 2019-12-26 00:00:00Z

nah, jao does better job at it

@ᶰ°Konͧsti what did heinrich do lol

what did jao do

ban him

02:05

kek

kek

ban

konsti

feelsbadman

5991

All noobs

09:29

People complaining without giving reasonable solutions ban

ban

u r

10:14

heinrich does dumb shit against tons of good arguments

like what

changing gameplay mechanics and game physics and observe the players 24/7 + save chat and IPs

@mr_nvm, Welcome to |KoG| Teeworlds Community! Have a great time here :feelsamazingman:

@ᶰ°Konͧsti Afaik, first two due to fixing specific bugs (mainly after it was reported by players) which this game is full of, especially since the mod actually started by finding one (hooking thru corners). Last two sound like a good thing to moderate retards out of game's society. But well, I'm a ghost who knows nothing though (edited)

Fixing bugs by making even more bugs (edited)

That sounds like half of changelogs in literally every single game

@Soreu heinrichs changes to the mechanics caused maps being unfinishable for months and even complete deletions of Maps. Other changes made the game much more easier and opened a lot of big cheats

how can someone think of making stoppers and spikes unskippable after 100000 years

11:32

when hundreds of people skilled them dozens of times

11:32

skipped*

11:32

good they undone it

Clear all rank points

11:33

Merry Christmas !

And maps even base on that physics

11:34

I hate this guy

11:34

@Jesus Christ they actually had it fixed???

if i remember correctly stoppers were unskippable for some time

@ᶰ°Konͧsti IPs and chat are not permanetnly saved, ddnet regularly clears the logs

11:38

note that yo uhave to go out of your way to do that, it's not guaranteed that all server hosters do this. people who keep their server logs keep IPs and chat forever

whats the point of saving chatlogs

chat logs aren't saved on ddnet. but you could accidentally save them very easily

the autoexec_server.log thing?

accidentally thonk

thonk

it erases itself when u restart the server tho

11:40

i wouldnt even count that as saving chatlogs

if you erase it regularly? no, then it's fine

@heinrich5991 u dont have to erase it at all

11:42

the server just overwrites

11:42

the logfile

11:43

all u have to do is restart occasionally and not go out of ur way to make copies of that logfile

Who cares about saving chat logs tho kek

kek

right

11:43

sounds like waste of space

And if they did, what would be the problem lol. Like you would tell your bankaccount information in teeworlds.

ACCIDENTLY save it

yes. "the server erases the chat logs." obviously counts as "if you erase it regularly"

even if u did, anyone with a client could save the same chatlogs as the server could

11:44

idk how ur servers do logging

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every server ive hosted makes an autoexec.log file or something like it

11:45

and deletes it on restart

heinrich is lying as always

11:45

he saves everything

i dont think hes lying just phrased it weirdly

every file which is related to teeworlds

who cares if he does tho

The fact he say he wouldnt

i mean id hope if he was saving shit hed be open about it

11:46

ye

11:46

true

11:46

but why should he save chats

11:46

its uselss

idk, to report me to the police when ive said racist stuff again

11:46

troll

@ᶰ°Konͧsti I explicitly excluded chat (and a couple of other stuff) from teehistorian

Why dont delete teehistorian

because it's a useful tool

not

11:47

it takes the fun out of the game

it seems we have different goals in that game

But worse than that is ur things doing to the game mechanics

11:49

how about bringing Lunar Base back

11:49

oh wait u destroyed it

@heinrich5991 why talk to a big troll in kog chat about ddnet feelsgiveup

feelsgiveup

@heinrich5991 why dont u put teehistorian to good use making a system that automatically flags possible cheaters

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@bony okay that is seriously something intresting

@n000b like everything i say wouldnt be true and there are not bunch of players Saying the same shit

i cant imagine any other purpose for teehistorian OTHER than to catch cheaters

11:50

so why not try to make an automated system to point humans in the right direction

11:50

towards the demos to review more closely

I feel like someone in there is too stupid to understand that every game changes under further development, though in most cases there's no way to cry to devs about it, and TW changes all the time in all the ways possible

im not even talking about what konsti does nor referring to it as cheating

11:51

im talking about things that make obvious signatures by the way they send inputs

11:51

hookbots, aimbots, triggerbots

11:51

u know

@bony nobody is dedicated enough to get this working

if someone like me could make a somewhat decent system to do this in realtime for fng id be surprised if noone on ddnet could do the same for teehist data tho

Yeah, but who wants to spend so much time on this?

people who care about the servers they host and are personaly bothered by others trying to cheat on them

11:53

like qshar

11:53

or me

11:53

or idk

I mean you yourself put more hours in tw then whole ddnet dev team

thats their problem lol

@Soreu u dumb? There is no need to develope because the players dont want changes

So that is why we dont have this system yet

why

u can bring new features but dont change the old ones

none of the ddnet team seem particularly interested in making it happen

11:54

imo

make noby dev

11:54

no botters in DDNet left

11:54

danAmazing

danAmazing

He would be if he wants and he knows rhat

or qshar, his systems would still be a big improvement over nothing

11:55

detecting the movement bots

11:55

on ddnet

11:55

and lol wut

True af

why would noby apply for being dev when they dont want automated bot detection

@n000b i think not exactly

11:55

they are not very interested in the idea itself, they might accept it if i do literally every part of it including opensourcing it for every botter to read

11:55

but thats not really the point

lmao

11:56

open source antibot

11:56

kek

11:56

OP bots Incoming

not that my systems couldnt be bypassed but itd be pretty dumb to spoonfeed the exact methods to everyone on how to do it

they dont wanna ban botters cuz that would leave servers empty

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danAmazing

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troll

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realnews

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kek

I guess you would indeed need to do 80%

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ive already done the 80%

11:57

hell working with bombay for anticheat has been a more successful experience than working with ddnet for anticheat so far

11:57

and bombay is a fking block server

They dont want to ban botters cuz everyone would know that jao is useless then

11:58

like not everyone knows already

mh. you'd be willing to share your 80% if I don't open-source it and integrate it into ddnet somehow @bony

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Lmao blockservers were the perfect place to bot feelsbadman

feelsbadman

how would it be integrated without opensource

block sucks

put in some hooks in the right places and load the anticheat dynamically

HMM

yeah id be interested in doing this if its closed source cus theres probably alot of good data to be gained from this, starting with just hookbot data at first i think

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11:59

block sucks

well, you can have teehistorian data if you want to analyse it

i dont have a convenient way of playing that data back, i tried but it was a pain in the ass and there were objects i couldnt parse so i kinda rq lol

u have to give noby access to data cuz he is a robot and can analyze this by watching

and i dont know rust

12:00

can i get a c implementation pls

12:00

or a tool for converting teehist stuff to something thats played back on the server in a format thats closer to what my systems already analyze

sure

taht would be cool

12:00

does it save cursor position data

yes

ooo

danAmazing

nobytroll

(only the data the client sends, obviously ^^)

would be very cool if there was like a 'teehist replay' option on a server that would generate the tees as they were recorded and have the server analyze what they do as if theyre real tees

@heinrich5991 u can send noby binary code, he can read that kek

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well yeah but this is all u get from realtime clients anyway

12:01

u

u actually

Lmao somehow konsti helped teeworlds by starting this discussion kek

kek

That's the best thing he did this year

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the discussion is as old as noby playing tw

12:02

Soreu sucks

whos soreu

Indeed, but you started it in perfect moment

hes a nobo

why

he think design is important

@ᶰ°Konͧsti Nah, the crown is yours

its not

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realnews

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I played one year with old entities cuz The Soreu ones were ugly

12:03

feelsbadman

12:03

But so many new tiles

lol if i can convert all the hundreds of GBs of teehist data to raw antibot data that would be so cool

12:04

feelssurprisedman

feelsgoodman

12:04

rip robots

replaybots are someone elses problem™️

12:04

but aimbots and shit yea

That was also your problem, the "new" look of entities was discussed with a lot of players before they were introduced

12:04

and you are totally free to use your own graphics as you did

what was the old look of entities

Why the fuck Swapped finish and start tiles

12:05

lmao

Even I didn't like some of these and had very own version of these

green is totally finish tile, not start

To make it have logical sense finally

12:05

matching all the other entities

GG @Soreu, you just advanced to level 2 !

wat

12:05

lol

noby too young

well im biased ive never seen it any other way

12:06

red has always been finish

12:06

kosnti u

no u

For years it wasn't, literally only start-end tile group which had it reversed, with red being start and green end

feelsamazingman

12:06

And the old kill tiles

12:07

amazing

why

idk

how were they different

im like superconservative

12:07

everything Whats new is bad

feelsgiveup

hello

Funny thing is that I haven't had green or red tiles on my personal entities, since as I said I didn't like look of some of the ones I made as the look was chosen by majority - I had them fckin purple with crossed line for those being an end

konstroll

12:09

lol purple

and I posted that version aswell

The main reason why i didnt like them was more that they werent transparent anymore

like transparent, or like easily-understandable?

Transparent

cuz opacity was based on original ones

12:10

xd

12:11

I didn't take a single thing (ok, maybe except dumb looking lock for unlock team) from nothing, it was all based on original tiles, just refreshed to keep the same style and match each other (edited)

ddnet 10 best client

12:12

konsti noobsti

Yes 10042

12:12

troll

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ban

konstroll

@ᶰ°Konͧsti 10042

12:12

its

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bot

12:12

lmao

feelsbadman

12:12

U

no he

my client wasnt bot

12:13

Only zo

12:13

feelsbadman

no proof

12:13

kek

i can send source

12:13

its legit DDNet source

then i can ban u

12:13

for zozing

12:13

danAmazing

just accidently placed /,

12:13

//

12:14

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accidentally placed an ip on the banlist

12:14

by mistake

feelsbadman

12:14

i got much ips

12:14

troll

Missclick

feelsbadtrump

feelsbadman

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i have a rangeban command and a lack of care for collateral damage

12:15

so no u

ban

a

lmao

12:15

what about the french pros

12:15

feelsbadman

12:15

They would be banned

ill give them the vpn bypass password before i do it

12:15

kek

I'll take the password

i can change it in f2

feelsbadman

but then id have to go find every vpn user ive ever told the pw and tell them the update and its a pain in the ass so pls dnt

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what is this (edited)

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they are called bombs

@Knuski BRUH!

bruh

1. take screenshot 2. crop with paint 3. take screenshot of paint

FeelsLULMan

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13:08

feelspepoman

Ye

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kek

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TrumpDisgust

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@Destin gimme moder

no

Hater

14:49

I’m confirmed now

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Good

yes cause im a good mod

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