DDraceNetwork - questions

[Client] Add spectator count to HUD [KebsCS] how to this work?

00:10

where i can see number of spectators?

purp

where i can see number of spectators?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/420565311863914496/1341819378957549598

what's the multeasymap turkey server for?

I am having issues with the moderate map Wrong Forest. Both tees start at the top left in the screenshot and need to land on top of each other in the pit. But the issue is that if I just run into the freeze I get a random slowdown 50% of the time, landing in the little bucket right below where the freeze starts, as it happened in the screenshot. Does anyone know why this happens and how I can get consistent speed? This is super frustrating, having to do a dice roll after 5 minutes for each try. I have done it like 4 times already and was always unlucky

Adamiomn

I am having issues with the moderate map Wrong Forest. Both tees start at the top left in the screenshot and need to land on top of each other in the pit. But the issue is that if I just run into the freeze I get a random slowdown 50% of the time, landing in the little bucket right below where the freeze starts, as it happened in the screenshot. Does anyone know why this happens and how I can get consistent speed? This is super frustrating, having to do a dice roll after 5 minutes for each try. I have done it like 4 times already and was always unlucky

we can't see it on the screenshot but I'm pretty sure you can go wall on the left

Yubel

we can't see it on the screenshot but I'm pretty sure you can go wall on the left

Here's more of the screenshot. I dont understand what you mean, sorry

Adamiomn

Here's more of the screenshot. I dont understand what you mean, sorry

The slowdown depends on your x coord, so if you didnt slowdown from some position then you wouldnt the second time as well Thats why the strat is to use a wall to line up a good coord

Ah, thanks!

11:06

Why does the slowdown depend on the x coord? That's feels kinda stupid

Yeah it does, something with the tick that you hit the freeze IIRC

Because it makes you enter the freeze differently, at some coords you enter it a bit early

Tho that's dangerous half-knowledge, I never tested it throughout

Ah I see. Thanks guys, this was driving me nuts

11:07

I tried it in practice mode with /lasttp and it was consistent, this makes sense now

Some setups won't work if you move them a few tiles to the left/right, super annoying to map monkalaugh

meloƞ

Tho that's dangerous half-knowledge, I never tested it throughout

We can just pretend its true until its proven incorrect greenthing

Gazebr

We can just pretend its true until its proven incorrect greenthing

11:09

Maybe @Teero knows something about that - he's the math enjoyer What is it with setups requiring a specific x position to work properly? - see screenshots and discussion above Good morning btw, hope you had a great day

Floating point calculations something something

A rounding error, paired with 90000 lines of spaghetti KonataDance

it worked, thanks a lot ❤️

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Adamiomn

it worked, thanks a lot ❤️

Woohooo!!!!

meloƞ

Maybe @Teero knows something about that - he's the math enjoyer What is it with setups requiring a specific x position to work properly? - see screenshots and discussion above Good morning btw, hope you had a great day

It's just tick alignment. If you start from the wrong position you will be frozen when you are still on the edge and slow down. If you are at the correct position then you will skip the tick where you are frozen on the edge

11:22

Optimally this shouldn't exist. ddnet physics are trash

Teero

Optimally this shouldn't exist. ddnet physics are trash

Ty teeroni macaroni

Thanks for the explanation Teero ❤️

Well it would probably break some stuff if it were fixed now

Gazebr

Well it would probably break some stuff if it were fixed now

yep

meloƞ

Ty teeroni macaroni

On PC I could explain this way better. But I can't rn

Yubel

Click to see attachment 🖼️

vietnam flashbacks... on this map i learned, that just running right is not consistent and was giga mad (edited)

Adamiomn

it worked, thanks a lot ❤️

Proceds to die in 5 mins

why don't i have "update" button?

because 18.8 is buggy

Cammodude

because 18.8 is buggy

so should i download update from ddnet.org/downloads? (edited)

yes

Vappy

Proceds to die in 5 mins

yeah, got stuck on the edge of tp on the next part. i love ddnet ^^

where can find ddnet beta changelog??

github probably

what happened to ger2?

always

what happened to ger2?

transformed

into?

air

obliterated

hello, my question is more of a developer question, but its not directly related to the development of ddnet so I didn't want to be destroyed. How does ddnet handle unknown cleints? for example, if you just took a basic ddnet cleint, but changed the name of it (where it matters) so that the server sees some random ahhh cleint, what does it do? Are all cleints allowed? How are bot cleints getting in if the server can see what cleint it is? Thanks

18:41

also let me know if I can move this question to developer (any mods reading) if I can

you send some data to the server when you join, which you can access as the owner or mods with access to the status command, such as the IP-address and client version. Custom clients are allowed, wouldnt make sense to ban them while the game is open source anyway. the problem with that is, that even a bot client can mindlessly control what it gives us, e.g fake other clients or send wrong client versions (edited)

meloƞ

you send some data to the server when you join, which you can access as the owner or mods with access to the status command, such as the IP-address and client version. Custom clients are allowed, wouldnt make sense to ban them while the game is open source anyway. the problem with that is, that even a bot client can mindlessly control what it gives us, e.g fake other clients or send wrong client versions (edited)

ahh, so sigmaexe cleint i'm making can enter? No need to change name or anything?

someone make ddnet with jumpscares

I just don't want to get instantly ip blacklisted for joining with a unknown client i'm making\

you have a very low chance