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Between 2025-02-21 00:00 and 2025-02-22 00:00
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someone wants to play ?
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Does anyone have a replay of a good run on Grenadium?
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Mannn it update not to the actual state but what it was a few hours ago (edited)
02:02
Sadge my badge of honor
02:03
Oh well might aswell start doing those
02:10
Wtf this looks great, why no one doing that on actual maps >:(
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Da Lookie
Wtf this looks great, why no one doing that on actual maps >:(
NixusπŸ”₯ 2025-02-21 02:11
much work
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How do I play this mode? When I enter the thing I just get killed instantly
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Da Lookie
How do I play this mode? When I enter the thing I just get killed instantly
NixusπŸ”₯ 2025-02-21 02:13
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Da Lookie
Wtf this looks great, why no one doing that on actual maps >:(
when i learn how to make gameplay
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Beczunia
change the name of the file
????
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ah yes, my favorite video format .jpg troll
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Stupid moderation team
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NickKruto
Stupid moderation team
β™‚S1mpleβ™‚ 2025-02-21 06:37
When learn new words
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abricotier de noix de coco 2025-02-21 06:38
Smart moderation team ❀️
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β™‚S1mpleβ™‚
When learn new words
abricotier de noix de coco 2025-02-21 06:41
Mission βœ… the never is saved πŸ˜€
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where is moders?
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2025-02-21 08:04
@Souly hi, is it possible to add eyes to handsome skin?
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abricotier de noix de coco
Sérieux ?
aziz_la_truite 2025-02-21 09:50
nn bg c'est du troll
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aziz_la_truite
nn bg c'est du troll
abricotier de noix de coco 2025-02-21 09:51
Xd ok
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louis
you're not even fucking funny @d3fault you think you're so fucking clever well fuck you little bitch that's why nobody likes you and you don't have a gf and also you suck at the game you literally have 9000 points off of 200 oldschool maps and like 3 brutals cause you can't even play you blame it all on lag you just suck at the game you can't even finish a map without 10 tees carrying you on the team and there's no way you could ever finish a faily map (edited)
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Im 'corneum
but ur just retarded
Im' corneum
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@Wartoz i like this but its missing feet (tees without feet are bad) (edited)
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@miemiemiea very cute but the leftmost foot is missing?
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new iphone model dropped
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Solly
why
theyre obsessed with radiators
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i dont get it
12:14
its just a bad skin
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@Darkness the feet are too big or otherwise have inconsistent outline width
12:15
#when vector skins
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theyre not skilled enough to do vector
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vector is easy enough
12:16
they can use svg editors then have a automated program to convert them into something simpler for ddnet
12:17
it would allow people to make radiators the size of the map
12:17
x-x
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Solly
@miemiemiea very cute but the leftmost foot is missing?
tried in game and i couldnt get the left foot to show up
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it looks like its missing in the image
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i dont think it should be accepted if theres a mistake like that
12:19
even if its really cute
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Stop hatred on handicapped tees nouis
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handicapped tees are put in wheelchairs
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#when wheelchair_ prefix
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make wheelchair_ tees
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i really awnt to make a 3rd party skin database
12:22
where there will be constructive prefixes
12:22
(it will make santa_yourskin if it doesnt exist)
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yeah but sometimes the santa hat can float and just dont fit on the tee
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you can make it so its not dumb
12:24
like it will find where it should place it
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there will be some tees where there is no translate which will make it fit
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AI hat creator
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but for most tees it will work
12:24
ai hat creator will be too intensive on my server
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make an editor where you can edit your tee stuff
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oxyzo
make an editor where you can edit your tee stuff
any bitmap image editor
12:24
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O u r serious
12:25
i want it primarily to exclude stupid skins
12:25
like ones where feet are missing
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or are not tee shaped
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or missing eyes
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U should push and replace the official one
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i could but then sane defaults isnt something i can add
12:26
or actually it could be
12:26
i was thinking of using query strings to specify filters
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And make wheelchairsanta_turtle_cool prefix a thing
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having multiple prefixes is a bit weird
12:26
i guess it would work
12:27
but it would have to check for wheelchair_skin then santa_skin etc etc
12:27
before trying to construct
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Solly
or are not tee shaped
every community skin ever
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Cammodude
every community skin ever
alot of community skins are tee shaped
12:27
and most are ish enough
12:27
bloody radiator
12:28
):<
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so like this ?
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i mean some of those are just ugly
12:28
all but baby yoda
12:28
and that has too big outline
12:29
if i make it 3rd party i can also have fixes to skins
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is this tee shaped ?
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without offending anyone
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Cammodude
is this tee shaped ?
no
12:29
its a square
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Cammodude
so like this ?
hetong is too small, pizza is too big, theyre all a bit ugly
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so this isnt tee shaped ?
12:29
it looks like a square
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thats true
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but
12:30
1. its cute
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2. its a hat so its oke
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Cammodude
so this isnt tee shaped ?
you know my weakness, cute things lmao
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every chinese skin ever
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i guess they just make cute skins
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is this tee shaped ?
12:31
too tall
12:31
feet are also too small
12:31
thats a skin i would try to fix
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is this tee shaped
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what about this
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oxyzo
is this tee shaped
no feet, no eyes, and no
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Cammodude
what about this
im not sure
12:32
because yeah.. but its made of pixels
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Solly
no
by extension these are also not tee shaped then
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yeah theyre too tall
12:32
and feet too smal
12:32
could be fixed
12:33
food time bb
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so this is also too tall
12:34
and this
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Cammodude
so this is also too tall
Could be fixed
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and im not sure people will be fine with you "fixing" their skins
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Cammodude
and im not sure people will be fine with you "fixing" their skins
Which is why I want to do it third party
12:42
I want to make it fully customizable so you can turn on and off categories of fillers and fixes and also per skin
12:44
Also it's kinda their fault for making bad skins (not bad designs)
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Solly
Also it's kinda their fault for making bad skins (not bad designs)
what if its personal preference and they never intended on making something for vanilla
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Its not their fault if they got accepted justatest
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Cammodude
what if its personal preference and they never intended on making something for vanilla
That's why I want sane defaults and the ability to customise everything
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im asking you why are they bad
12:50
Cuz they look ugly, weird, inconsistent, missing or small eyes make it harder to play, bad colours make it harder to play, too tall or misshapen make it weirder to balance
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Or used as none, one, or many of the list
12:51
Most are fine
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weirder to balance ?
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When Ur trying to balance on top of someone
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Or anything precise really
12:53
Or bad contrast make it harder to see on some maps, or see eyes or feet
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i see no difference
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^ am blind
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Cammodude
i see no difference
If you see no practical difference, I have my preferences because I'm a person with opinions
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And I think most people prefer some level of consistency
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That's something I'd have to poll
12:55
If my 3rd party skindb sees lots of usage I can see how many of each setting is used
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Solly
If my 3rd party skindb sees lots of usage I can see how many of each setting is used
helo
12:56
I'm far far away
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Solly
I'm far far away
waht
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Cammodude
is this tee shaped ?
looks so weird
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because the outline is messed up
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it is too tall, no?
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look around the tail
13:11
and compare it to this
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Cammodude
and compare it to this
that looks tall
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the official db version looks weird cause of the tail
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Solly
If you see no practical difference, I have my preferences because I'm a person with opinions
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kebs
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i like most of the community skins
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no way
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it is still too tall
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but i thought it was by much more
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i guess its also because its got a dump truck
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and small feet
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are the bird skins also too tall ?
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not at all
13:13
just small feet
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the mouth / beak? look like its a frowney face with teeth
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like "D:<"
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oh thats...
13:16
not right
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Naufrage 4 naufrafe 4 ! naufrage 4 !!!
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totally
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I hope I'm gonna find mate to play with
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supposed to be like this then ?
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You should rename "Weirdude" @Cammodude
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tux looks like it was taken from an early 2000s shareware bonzi buddy thing
13:18
^ not a bad thing
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im asking you what the beak should look like
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since you said its not right
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i meant the eyes being on the birds forehead
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bruh
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the beak looking like a D:< and now i cant unsee it is fine
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would be weirder if it was on the birds stomach
13:20
maybe
13:20
its the price u pay for non circular tee skins
13:21
maybe a bit lower
13:21
the eye is going right into the outline
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also the bird has no hands?
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Souly
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Solly
also the bird has no hands?
biologically accurate no ?
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Cammodude
biologically accurate no ?
well the wings are the equivilant
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wings are already on the body
13:23
but they could be the hands and removed from the body, probably doesnt look very good though
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Solly
its the price u pay for non circular tee skins
and it doesnt help that the eyes separate from eachother
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im not as pedantic about hands since they have no gameplay aspect (edited)
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Cammodude
and it doesnt help that the eyes separate from eachother
wdym seperate?, they go out the bird tho x-x (edited)
13:24
i see the highlights as eye brows to make D:<
13:24
most noticeable with the beak
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oh wait that line is an artififact from there being 2 eyes?
13:24
i didnt know thats how it worked
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yes
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creative
13:25
darned antialaising
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this is how they look in the file
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Solly
i want it primarily to exclude stupid skins
Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:26
yes yes yes yes yes plz, I support you 100%
13:27
we have so many useless and ugly skins
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(glowskins)
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Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:27
also, if your skin can't be colored and still look good, then that is a big negative
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yeah but what if you want multiple colors
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Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:28
kind of true, I wish we had the coloring from teeworlds and not ddnet
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its a bit annoying that you cant hue shift a skin, its only a weird multiplicative thing
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Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:29
where you could color each part of the body
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i want 0.7 skins in 0.6
13:29
then community 0.7 skins
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Lumpy ◐ω◑
@Souly hi, is it possible to add eyes to handsome skin?
its Ravies skin you would have to ask him
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Nameless_Me
also, if your skin can't be colored and still look good, then that is a big negative
i will have to go through every skin and add labels to it, ill have a label for colors badly
13:31
but i mean most skins color in a useful way. im not sure where to draw the line
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Solly
i will have to go through every skin and add labels to it, ill have a label for colors badly
Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:31
yea, there is lots of skins, I actually want to help with this if I can, do you know any way?
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i want to do the labelling myself for consistency, i might eventually have a voting system so i dont have to sift thru new skins all the time
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Solly
its a bit annoying that you cant hue shift a skin, its only a weird multiplicative thing
original skin vs closest match with ddnet coloring
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but skins dont get added that often
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Cammodude
original skin vs closest match with ddnet coloring
yeah its a bit sad we cant fully control coloring
13:32
(i mean it wouldnt be a direct match still, but it would be better)
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Solly
i want to do the labelling myself for consistency, i might eventually have a voting system so i dont have to sift thru new skins all the time
Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:32
makes sense, let me know if there is anything I can do, once you've sorted out the skins, how do you plan on adding them?
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and like good luck doing this with normal skin coloring
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Nameless_Me
makes sense, let me know if there is anything I can do, once you've sorted out the skins, how do you plan on adding them?
first im only going to label them, then let people exclude / include by the labels you can change the skin repo url in ddnet
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Cammodude
and like good luck doing this with normal skin coloring
yeah but it would be nice if you could hue rotate that
13:34
would be better than, now the red channel = 0
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Cammodude
and like good luck doing this with normal skin coloring
Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:34
ez with 0.6
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is 0.6 coloring different? (edited)
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Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:35
in the og teewords, you could color each part of the body, eyes, patterns, feat, hands, top, bottom, it was really cool, you even made your own skins in the tee editor
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og being 0.6?
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Solly
og being 0.6?
Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 13:35
wellll, mabye, idk xD
13:36
but it works on the teeworlds I have
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download the game on steam and try it out
13:36
this is 0.7 skins
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ddnet client implements them (in settings, rendering others, sending your own) for 0.7 servers, i want ddnet servers to also support them (edited)
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^ but i have no idea how because i am novice
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ddnet servers already support them tho ?
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its just that the client has no idea what to do with it so it just renders default
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Cammodude
ddnet servers already support them tho ?
for 0.7 clients
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they dont get sent to ddnet clients
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ddnet clients can also use 0.7 skin editing on 0.7 servers
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so i dont know why its not supported
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and ddnet clients pretending to be 0.7 clients can do it
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bird
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its a small gap to fill, but i dont know where the gap is
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gap ?
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its probably a few extra lines in code
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i just dont know where or how
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Just connect using 0.7 protocol
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Pioooooo
Just connect using 0.7 protocol
thats janky
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Solly
and ddnet clients pretending to be 0.7 clients can do it
tw-0.7+udp:// and your ip
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not YOUR ip but the server you want to connect to
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^ im not that silly
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Solly
thats janky
using 0.7 redownloads the map and i cant see 0.6 skins
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translating to 0.7 then back to ddnet is really jank and probably does alot more than this ^
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Currently ddnet client can translate to 0.7 and can send, recieve and render 0.7 skins ddnet servers can translate from 0.7 and can send recieve and render 0.7 skins but only for 0.7 clients I real...
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personally i think we should just go with a new skin system instead of that
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i feel like most of the skin combinations on 0.7 just simply dont work
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it gets even worse when you use some custom body types
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also i think theres no real need for having separate section for hands and decorations
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decorations could maybe work if there was a possibility of placing stuff in front of the tee in order to make hats or something but for now idk
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im fine with having a new skin system but thats gonna take forever
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i just dont want to be left out of 0.7 skins
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theyre already implemented in server and client
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so adding them shouldnt be too hard if you know where stuff is
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Souly
personally i think we should just go with a new skin system instead of that
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Solly
im fine with having a new skin system but thats gonna take forever
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this wtf
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they just go on every map they have replay for and get rank 1 with same time as 10 other players πŸ˜‚
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@jao's hairy kebab i was holding back so hard not to type that xD https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/1342531219337908284
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jao's hairy kebab 2025-02-21 16:21
XD
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! Π’ΠΈΠ»ΠΊΠ° 2025-02-21 16:36
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why (edited)
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17:32
i dont understand why people dont want this
17:32
its barely an extra feature
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guys if team is unlocked can 1 person finish the map only?
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Solly
its barely an extra feature
more stuff to maintain in the future
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and if he dies after will we all die?
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HaragΓ‘n 2025-02-21 18:04
frozen
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louis
more stuff to maintain in the future
but... all the features have been added
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Souly
personally i think we should just go with a new skin system instead of that
also this
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its just adding a custom message for sending a 0.7 skin, recieving a 0.7 skin then ui changes to add it
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i think people generally dont like 0.7 so
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but the skins are much better (minus community skins) than 0.6
18:14
and a new skin system doesnt intrude on 0.7 skins working on ddnet servers (they would be added by a new message as well probably) (edited)
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personal discomfort seeing 0.7 i guess. why not just rework our own skin system instead of squishing "even more" 0.7 code into DDNet ( yes i know, much more work ) - but thats why i didnt like that we added 0.7 in the first place (edited)
18:15
we should've went for 0.8 immediatly sadge
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meloƞ
personal discomfort seeing 0.7 i guess. why not just rework our own skin system instead of squishing "even more" 0.7 code into DDNet ( yes i know, much more work ) - but thats why i didnt like that we added 0.7 in the first place (edited)
you could add every 0.7 skin as a community skin (rip storage), theyre off the same style as 0.6 vanilla skins because we already have 0.7 skins on the client and server, its a small change to not segregate the two im open to a new skin system, its just that in the immediate future thats not ever gonna happen, and a new skin system does not conflict with 0.7 skins (im opinionless on community 0.7 skins, but thats not being discussed now) (edited)
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in a perfect world i'd like to have 0.6 skins with available accessories instead of duplicate skins (e.g default, santa_default, kitty_default) without the entire UI overhaul that 0.7 has.
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sure thing, but thats a future problem
18:18
i just want 0.7 skins in ddnet servers (edited)
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Solly
sure thing, but thats a future problem
no? thats the problem from right now
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Teero
no? thats the problem from right now
future as in not being discussed right now and probably a solution will not be agreed upon for a while
18:19
being able to inherit parts from 0.6 skins is probably wanted for a new skin system (to reduce duplicate work) (edited)
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i feel as if people are hating on it because they hate 0.7
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^ which is fair i do too (bandwagoning), but 0.7 skins are just skins
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then make good 0.6 skins instead of merging with bad 0.6 skins with bad 0.7 skins
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i would cook up a skin system but aint nobody implementing it
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Teero
then make good 0.6 skins instead of merging with bad 0.6 skins with bad 0.7 skins
0.7 skins and 0.6 skins are seperate (edited)
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louis
i would cook up a skin system but aint nobody implementing it
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0.7 is a different game
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but theyre for this purpose compatible 0.7 skins are implemented on both server and client, it's not adding a new feature really, its just making it accessabl;e (edited)
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Solly
i dont understand why people dont want this
Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 18:24
its ok, so people just have bad opinions D:
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"lets make geometry dash and terraria compatible" wdym??
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thats a horrible comparison
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yes it is exaggerated
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0.7 and ddnet have a very close ancestor
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Teero
"lets make geometry dash and terraria compatible" wdym??
Nameless_Me 2025-02-21 18:25
they have a geometry map as a planed release in ddnet
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and ddnet and 0.7 are pretty much fully compatible
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but idc about that
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i just want the already implemented 0.7 skins to be available
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what if 2 years later a nicer implementation exists to replace both
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i mean my ideal skin system could just implement most of the 0.7 system i guess
18:29
my opinion is that i don't like having 0.7 stuff in the client though
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louis
what if 2 years later a nicer implementation exists to replace both
theres no replacing
18:30
0.6 and 0.7 skins will always be a thing
18:30
a new skin system will be seperate or a superset of both
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thanks for the vernacular specification!
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if there's a new future skin system it'll replace 0.6 and 0.7 skins in that there likely won't be 3 separate skin systems in the client after it gets implemented
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superset = possible to recreate all 0.6, ddnet and 0.7 skins
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louis
if there's a new future skin system it'll replace 0.6 and 0.7 skins in that there likely won't be 3 separate skin systems in the client after it gets implemented
thats completley fine, i just want support now
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i know what a superset is
18:32
lmao
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louis
thanks for the vernacular specification!
then whats this?
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sarcasm
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i assumed you would know what superset is...
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so its the best word to use
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assuming that a new skin system would want to allow both 0.6 and 0.7 skins
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just cause a new skin system is able to recreate both 0.6 and 0.7 doesnt rly mean its a superset of both systems but w/e
18:34
that doesnt really matter anyways
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louis
just cause a new skin system is able to recreate both 0.6 and 0.7 doesnt rly mean its a superset of both systems but w/e
if its perfectly recreate then yes
18:34
if its good enough then, pretty much yes
18:35
its visual anyway so it doesnt matter
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βœͺ Папик 2025-02-21 18:35
which hitbox is bigger? 2 tiles of freeze or 1 tile of heart freeze
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a new skin system may restrict the jank things we have now, that is putting the mouth in the eyes
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βœͺ Папик
which hitbox is bigger? 2 tiles of freeze or 1 tile of heart freeze
fuck around and find out?
18:36
(unless someone knows, my best guess is heart freeze)
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Solly
fuck around and find out?
βœͺ Папик 2025-02-21 18:36
i need other opinions, i may be wrong and i wanna hear others
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i think its the same width (edited)
18:36
well a 2x2 is bigger i think (edited)
18:36
i forgot if heart has hitboxes on the corners
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βœͺ Папик
i need other opinions, i may be wrong and i wanna hear others
you can verify it by placing ur tee at certain coords
18:37
and seeing if it freezes
18:37
i thought heart was round
18:37
could check the code
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o it might be
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louis
i think its the same width (edited)
βœͺ Папик 2025-02-21 18:38
when i was creating solo map i couldnt to sertain part where its laser through 1 heart tile
18:38
but i could do it with 2 tiles of freeze
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ms_CollisionExtraSize = 6; gs_PickupPhysSize = 14; GetProximityRadius() = gs_PickupPhysSize; // CPickup int Num = GameWorld()->FindEntities(m_Pos, GetProximityRadius() + ms_CollisionExtraSize, apEnts, MAX_CLIENTS, CGameWorld::ENTTYPE_CHARACTER); @βœͺ Папик 20 but its a circle
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π˜€π—΅π—Άπ—³π˜π—²π˜€π—Έπ—Άπ˜†πŸŽ€ 2025-02-21 18:45
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dickhead...
18:45
please use #βœ‰-create-a-ticket :D (edited)
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ms_CollisionExtraSize = 6; gs_PickupPhysSize = 14; GetProximityRadius() = gs_PickupPhysSize; // CPickup int Num = GameWorld()->FindEntities(m_Pos, GetProximityRadius() + ms_CollisionExtraSize, apEnts, MAX_CLIENTS, CGameWorld::ENTTYPE_CHARACTER); @βœͺ Папик 20 but its a circle
βœͺ Папик 2025-02-21 18:46
so answer is heart tile bigger?
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yes? (edited)
18:46
because you can step half way into 2x2 freeze
18:46
so 2x2 freeze tiles is 10x10 unit freeze
18:47
whilst heart tile is 10x10x3.14 unit freeze
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oh wait yeah heart is huge
18:52
i never realized
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nobody maps with it xd
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when they do its like
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damn
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those r big
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xd
18:53
most cases 2x2 freeze is equivilant and easier to read
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π˜€π—΅π—Άπ—³π˜π—²π˜€π—Έπ—Άπ˜†πŸŽ€ 2025-02-21 18:54
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HAHAHHAHAHAH
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So fanny hahah
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xD
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i really hope this isnt you
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π˜€π—΅π—Άπ—³π˜π—²π˜€π—Έπ—Άπ˜†πŸŽ€ 2025-02-21 18:55
i am
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hahah
18:55
There was little online on the server, we did it purely for the screenshot
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russian, from tiktok, breaks rules all checks out
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so no actual blocking took place
18:56
or...
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Solly
so no actual blocking took place
π˜€π—΅π—Άπ—³π˜π—²π˜€π—Έπ—Άπ˜†πŸŽ€ 2025-02-21 18:56
Yes, we block max 3-4 people
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go to [bad place] :) (edited)
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π˜€π—΅π—Άπ—³π˜π—²π˜€π—Έπ—Άπ˜†πŸŽ€ 2025-02-21 18:56
Dont worry, we leave
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Solly
go to [bad place] :) (edited)
π˜€π—΅π—Άπ—³π˜π—²π˜€π—Έπ—Άπ˜†πŸŽ€ 2025-02-21 18:56
justatest
18:57
hahah
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π˜€π—΅π—Άπ—³π˜π—²π˜€π—Έπ—Άπ˜†πŸŽ€
Dont worry, we leave
to late - currently manhunting y'all you're the reason we cant have nice things
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meloƞ
to late - currently manhunting y'all you're the reason we cant have nice things
"mods, execute him and bring me his head on a plate"
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1 blocker vs 3 hunters
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will i block a single novice or will i be permanently banned from multeasy, this is ddnet manhunt
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Cammodude
"mods, execute him and bring me his head on a plate"
They is mod
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@Teero make a tas of 4p but they all have copy moves
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cant waste time
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make tas of more ddnet maps
21:37
instead of gores (edited)
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@Cammodude Wsup my friend
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Good bot
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Alperen
Good bot
:3
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