DDraceNetwork - off-topic

Tsumugi 2025-02-17 04:16

https://youtu.be/0kNIn8X_bdA?si=IqKpb2jL5ijfvakz

Apple TV

Apple TV+ is Now on Android

07:29

what the actual hell

07:29

apple proves once again that their products are shit

07:29

how was android version not a thing until now?

07:30

i understand that some apps are not supported on every platform

07:30

but for a company that supposadly has premium experience products this is really shit

07:31

and it's annoying because their products are kinda good

07:32

but one "small" detail just ruins everything

@JUST A SNIPER ツ ok

07:46

stop being so professional I hate it

i spend a whole afternoon figuring out how to crack jetbrains the nix way

07:48

still haven't fully done it

Norming

norming

risu

stop being so professional I hate it

I ain't reading all that type message tbh

risu

stop being so professional I hate it

I wrote it for admins and developers. I'm sorry, but it wasn't meant to be an enjoyable reading for you. Instead of having a conversation back and forward, I wrote all my points in one text. Create drama in off-topic, but you are definitely looking for drama anywhere.

I don't skip messages usually but that one was so boring to read (edited)

I read it

Then you might as well share your opinion. I will assume that you just agree with all I said there, since the only thing you managed to reply was personal comments.

I already shared my opinion at the top of the thread days ago

07:54

the only thing I got out of your message was that you were filling the thread with pointless walls of text talking about matters that were already more concisely mentioned by others

Sub factors can't be a thing without accounts btw

♂S1mple♂

Sub factors can't be a thing without accounts btw

Yeah, I had a discussion a while ago on an admin ticket. I understand their stand, but that's why I noted that you should just accept the unlikelyhood of the IP collisions they are worried about.

JUST A SNIPER ツ

I wrote it for admins and developers. I'm sorry, but it wasn't meant to be an enjoyable reading for you. Instead of having a conversation back and forward, I wrote all my points in one text. Create drama in off-topic, but you are definitely looking for drama anywhere.

You don't sound like you're talking to admins and developers, you sound like you're talking to a corporate client if you're talking with developers you can skip the drivel that everyone already knows and has already considered

@meloƞ now chn are DMing me how to turn spec cursor on when we haven't released it. HUH

can't i just get some peace. it's either "OMG THE BETA SUCK HOW DO I TURN IT OFF" or "OMG WHY HAVEN'T I GOT IT". can't people just make up their collective minds

I don't think it should happen as often as you think, if you give it a short time window.

risu

You don't sound like you're talking to admins and developers, you sound like you're talking to a corporate client if you're talking with developers you can skip the drivel that everyone already knows and has already considered

Corporate clients don't care about numbers or nuances. Usually, documentation like that one is analyzed by another developer who works for the client, because they have a better understanding of what the client wants.

JUST A SNIPER ツ

Yeah, I had a discussion a while ago on an admin ticket. I understand their stand, but that's why I noted that you should just accept the unlikelyhood of the IP collisions they are worried about.

Not sure what ip has to do here

♂S1mple♂

Not sure what ip has to do here

You don't need accounts if you can use IP addresses and nicknames as identifiers.

07:58

Definitely has its problems. For sure.

Isn't it's rcon

07:58

Or I'm wrong

Rcon is admin authentication, no?

Mods have their own commands too

08:00

And testers on test servers

Yeah. The sub-factors are for normal players though. The problem is identifying the same player in different sessions. That's why I mentioned that you don't need accounts for that if you use other stuff as identifiers. (edited)

Seems abuseable

Definitely abuseable, yes. But catching 75% of the players who won't bother to reassign their IP address is already a benefit. That alone would make it more manageable for the moderators.

08:05

The sub-factors should be easy to transfer into an account system though. It's a temporary abuse, I guess.

@Learath2 @Ewan do u recommend a good turntable

09:10

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surasshu

blocklist for AI music on youtube

@meloƞ holy shit i've done it

10:03

it's so fucking hard

TsPiggy

@meloƞ holy shit i've done it

https://github.com/Sanfrag/nix-jetbra

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TsPiggy

@meloƞ holy shit i've done it

Damn

made my own flake module

10:54

aren't you proud

10:54

had to use a burner account tho

10:55

for reasons

10:56

it's actually just a nix module tho, doesn't really have anything flake related in the end.

@meloƞ wanna do a new project?

Huuuuh

kinda wanna make a ddnetguessur where it shows a part of a map and you guess the map name

Pretty sure we had that before

TsPiggy

kinda wanna make a ddnetguessur where it shows a part of a map and you guess the map name

i had this idea and tried doing something but my 0 programming knowledge didn't help

Maybe it was map made thi

11:39

Handmade*

meloƞ

Pretty sure we had that before

i think it was just screenshots

i'm trying to extend patiga's map previewer to take input from javascript space to control the camera

11:40

so it is more dynamic and we can support literally any map without anything handmade

1 big con is that you can find logo

11:40

so you either edit every map to censor it or make it static (edited)

i might just prevent moving altogether and randomly choose a spot instead of spawn

11:41

if it randomize on the spawn it's a freebee i guess (edited)

some maps have logos after spawn or/and on finish

11:41

yeah probably too much work

11:42

also i think majority of rounds would be in the middle of nowhere sadly

11:42

because most maps have a lot of empty spots

11:42

or rather filled in grass tiles

i mean sounds easy to fix just by counting game tiles.

I think it's sufficiently lazy to generate a lot of images and filter through them manually

many maps fill grass hookable too

even if it goes into the middle of nowhere

11:43

it is probably funny

TsPiggy

it is probably funny

getting randomized grass main might be such a peak

11:44

kinda like "mexican grass to me"

i do want to do gradual zoom out so i kinda want to make the map perviewer thing work

11:44

it's like the more zoomed out the lower the score instead of just being right or wrong

risu

I think it's sufficiently lazy to generate a lot of images and filter through them manually

isn't geogeussr kinda work like that? it's a bunch of google street view urls that get randomly picked

♂S1mple♂

isn't geogeussr kinda work like that? it's a bunch of google street view urls that get randomly picked

yeah geoguessr maps are made by humans, the locations that get added to each set are decided somewhat by hand

11:47

so I was thinking you could just manually define such things by hand

i kinda want it auto run by itself well into the future (unless we update datafile format or something i guess), cuz i'm sure as hell not maintaining this. maybe a "workshop" thing that allow you to design your own set, but that's about it.

Or you could somehow produce a mask for each map representing the valid locations

11:48

but that's a lot of work...

or just make the workshop the main thing and let player do it for you

11:48

risu

but that's a lot of work...

3k maps is indeed a lot

Throw AI at it!

uh oh

although i am very much like to know why patiga's mapperview wasm is 3 megabytes

11:49

i feel like it should be a lot more smaller (edited)

if you are onto it make categories like brutal, moderate etc. too

11:49

I guess a lazy enough solution would be to see if OCR comes up with anything, and if there appears to be no text in the image it is accepted

i think it would yeet wonderfully maps

will probably still miss a lot of the more creative logos

also maps that have any text infos

or rather parts

i planned on doing none of that

it's not like Geoguessr doesn't have super easy stages

pls do that would be extremely neat

you might be placed next to a sign that says "Welcome to Brazil!"

i'll just do a workshop where player can design and share their own map set with their hand picked locations

11:51

other than that it will just be algorithmic daily

11:52

maybe with some filter restriction like a moderate day, a novice day or something.

11:52

that's as far i'm willing to go with this idea

11:53

and i guess anyone can pr more stuff if they feel like it. we probably have way less map than street view locations so it'll probably dry out really soon.

tbf geoguessr mostly used 50k+ locations map until one point, considering we have 3k maps and like at least 5-10 locations per that already is a lot (edited)

Ryozuki

@Learath2 @Ewan do u recommend a good turntable

I never had a good one but I have been eyeing the LP60X aswell.

14:23

what do u guys think about ryzen 5 3600

14:24

as my second mobo died i think im not gonna use chinese or 10yo stuff anymore

14:24

well i killed it

14:24

but that doesnt matter

idk my ryzen 5 1600x is going strong over all those years

14:25

also this fella sends pictures of puupies and says

14:25

"Well i killed it, but that desont matter" (edited)

Overlord

idk my ryzen 5 1600x is going strong over all those years

my a10-7800 is still usable for basic tasks, but modern programming is turning it obsolete

ok this is actually pretty clean now

14:51

14:52

goat plugin

@TsPiggy I will now attempt to set up an impermanence setup

14:54

Because I have windows and Linux coexisting on my drives and constantly cleaning the nix/store gets annoying

i don't understand what impermanence setup is

Basically, you move root to a temporary partition

14:55

And it gets rm -rf'd on each reboot

so basically middle school computers

Ye pretty much

14:55

You only move things to permanent storage when you want them to stay permanent

i'm not doing that

14:55

my disk space is pretty comfortable so far

Yeah I need to get another 2TB SSD, I'm running out of storage constantly

i only have 1TB

14:56

for system

I have 2tb for both nix and windows, another 2tb HDD for documents and shit, and a 240gb super highspeed one for my boot partitions

14:57

So my system boots up blazingly fast

meloƞ

I have 2tb for both nix and windows, another 2tb HDD for documents and shit, and a 240gb super highspeed one for my boot partitions

how super is super?

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@Discord Mod

MilkeeyCat

@Discord Mod

MF you see 2 mods talking here

meloƞ

MF you see 2 mods talking here

can you ban users?

No trust :(

(link) moment ahhh

i prefer timeout these spams tbh

meloƞ

No trust :(

in showroon too

14:58

delete

cuz people might just be "hacked" and they can get back really soon

1

Yeah I timeout, they usually write you a "sorry" dm within a few hours

14:59

It's just kids being stupid

14:59

Clicking on links and scanning QR codes

the good old session token

No idea why it's still so easy

15:00

Scan QR code, click "ok" and boom your account is gone

1

just do what chinese do, one device only

15:00

although some of them are better at supporting multiple devices now, they uses completely different protocols for each device type so they can be sure it was actually a different type of device instead of just a naming thing

15:02

although phone is still the single trust factor for chinese apps

15:02

but they don't let you click login unless you call your friends

Some services saddybear

if the location doesn't match

meloƞ

Some services saddybear

looks painful

@meloƞ Why are you a melon and not a watermelon

feeeeeeeeeeeeex

@meloƞ Why are you a melon and not a watermelon

There are a lot of watermelons

15:03

But I'm the one true melon

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TsPiggy

but they don't let you click login unless you call your friends

wechat does this it is so funny. if you want to login using a new device, you will need to either submit a photo of you holding your ID card or call 3 friends off platform to send 3 verification message to you.

meloƞ

There are a lot of watermelons

where's Pastèque btw ?

15:04

haven't seen him ig for years

Chairn

where's Pastèque btw ?

Good question, been a while

15:07

That looks much better

15:07

My system is such a bully

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15:10

@Teero want me to screenshot that out of audit log

15:10

TsPiggy

wechat does this it is so funny. if you want to login using a new device, you will need to either submit a photo of you holding your ID card or call 3 friends off platform to send 3 verification message to you.

sounds like it'd be very effective so I don't see the problem :D

meloƞ

@Teero want me to screenshot that out of audit log

no mod abuse

now i'm curious

meloƞ

That looks much better

wait, I kinda got the idea that you'd have your system configured as like a set of dependencies, so can you get the dependency graph for the entire system?

15:13

or is this just another misconception I have about nix from when I heard things about it a few years ago?

no, the dependency is automatic

15:14

melon used a dependency graph tool to show dependency while building I presume because it looks cool

15:15

practically you just write packages = [ steam firefox ] and it'll handles everything and you will have those two installed on your system (or home directory) after you build your os.

Is your main configuration file handled like a normal package or is it special?

it's just a file

15:16

you write what your system looks like in a file

aren't other packages just files too?

(or a set of files)

15:16

text file

yeah

(although i guess i used the only two examples that shouldn't be installed that way.)

I'm asking if your main system configuration file is the same kind of file that describes package builds?

yes i guess?

so you could consider your entire system to be a nix package?

15:18

so you could get the dependency graph for that package?

well maybe, but it isn't written like a package

aww

the langauge nix is the same language but the output isn't the same

15:18

packages outputs package

15:19

system configuration outputs system

15:19

but you could get the dependency graph for the system for sure (how else is it building it)

Hard

risu

wait, I kinda got the idea that you'd have your system configured as like a set of dependencies, so can you get the dependency graph for the entire system?

Nix flake update goes gardt

TsPiggy

packages outputs package

This also tells me that a package can't output just anything, it has to be formatted a certain way?

TsPiggy

melon used a dependency graph tool to show dependency while building I presume because it looks cool

Not only that, I want to know what takes the longest, if it's not steam-run or systemd

risu

so you could consider your entire system to be a nix package?

I can copy my system, send it to Freddie, let him replace the hardware configuration and it would work

15:20

Apart from cachix setup because.. well - imagine caching on 800 ping

meloƞ

MF you see 2 mods talking here

MF? MF DOOM?

But my system is one big evaluation of a set of nix code

risu

This also tells me that a package can't output just anything, it has to be formatted a certain way?

doesn't all packaging system have rules

Why did they call the latest nix version fkn warbler

15:22

TsPiggy

doesn't all packaging system have rules

from you guys using it for development I got the idea that it's like a build system substitute?

15:22

so I assumed it'd have quite a bit of flexibility

15:22

or is it just dependency management and build is separate?

well the shell thing is different from the system thing which is different from the package thing.

risu

from you guys using it for development I got the idea that it's like a build system substitute?

Nix is a language, and has builder scripts. It's just a way for nix to ensure maximum purity within the nix store

all written in the same language tho

TsPiggy

well the shell thing is different from the system thing which is different from the package thing.

Wait, this is a piece of software made by reasonable people? I thought this was crazy purist land!

risu

Wait, this is a piece of software made by reasonable people? I thought this was crazy purist land!

I quite like it when everything is the same thing

if you call nix develop it expect the file to follow a certain type of output. if you call nix build to build a package it expect the package output. if you call nixos-rebuild switch it expect the system configuration to output a system configuration

15:25

but it is still just inputs outputs. you can write anything in the outputs if you want to make something that reads that type of output i guess

risu

I quite like it when everything is the same thing

but that's me wanting to produce art instead of practical software lol

my system

15:26

my jetbrains cracker module (edited)

15:26

same type of file, different spirit

I assume it's common for people to put system configuration changes in their nix system configuration?

i think they just use git

Best practice would be to have absolutely everything declarative

15:28

Even your drives, passwords, secrets, gpg and ssh setup

TsPiggy

i think they just use git

I mean for adding like a specific file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ or something

in a way you have to change your system config because you can't install anything else. packages aren't even in the bin folders so you can't just install them the regular way

you're not going to put your entire /etc/ in git

risu

I mean for adding like a specific file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ or something

you can make the root file read other nix files

15:29

or you can just write everything in one single file

risu

I mean for adding like a specific file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ or something

Nah that would be impure, you'd handle the entirety of xorg via nix in the /nix/store

15:29

And write to that

how you structure your source files is sorta on you

15:30

i think i misunderstood that

risu

you're not going to put your entire /etc/ in git

That's handled via the /nix/store - read about it, it's. Good!

nix people made some tools for you to change etcs

meloƞ

Nah that would be impure, you'd handle the entirety of xorg via nix in the /nix/store

so you'd modify your xorg package or something?

you can but some packages provide options

TsPiggy

you can but some packages provide options

that's cool

You also don't handle xorg directly but let your x server module take care of that fully

15:32

E.g when your WM requires xorg, it's grabbing that itself

I write programs.git.userName = "TsFreddie" then some magic nix module will just make the .gitconfig file in a place called nix store (usually somewhere in /nix/store and the build process will symlink .gitconfig to the correct location

15:33

i think

15:35

> ls -l ~/.config/git/config
lrwxrwxrwx 1 tsfreddie users 81  2月17日 23:08 /home/tsfreddie/.config/git/config -> /nix/store/y410r68ivpc7sig2ijl12swqgp71j518-home-manager-files/.config/git/config

I'm almost getting convinced to use this thing

honestly

15:35

i kinda hate it lol

Too much effort?

it sounds so good for me cuz i break my system too often

15:36

but it is kinda hard to do anything

15:36

I've been on the same Arch install since 2020

it does save the headache of me breaking my system and it won't boot and i will have no idea how to fix it

15:37

which happens to me every time cuz i'm quite trigger happy

and you can be sure I could not reproduce this config, there are so many things I've changed (for good reason!) that I don't remember anymore

nix already saved me from catastrophic failures at least 5 times now

TsPiggy

it does save the headache of me breaking my system and it won't boot and i will have no idea how to fix it

I've had numerous no boot conditions but never one that wasn't easy to fix

15:37

mainly just my boot options getting broken lol

if I get broken display i will have no idea how to fix it

I don't use any dedicated bootloader, just tell my UEFI to load the kernel directly

15:38

I love that that's a feature that the kernel just supports

maybe boot into a live os and mount my drive manually and try to fix something, but i would still have no patients for that

15:39

you can still break bootloader on nixos tho

15:39

i feel like discord is rate limiting me

15:39

my message keep getting stuck on send but i can still receive

efibootmgr -c -b 1 -d /dev/nvme1n1 -p 1 -l /vmlinuz-linux-zen -L "Arch Linux ZEN" -u "root=PARTUUID=e2d6b521-8620-1641-a71c-e4f5d0b86121 rw initrd=\intel-ucode.img initrd=\initramfs-linux-zen.img intel_iommu=on iommu=pt threadirqs lpj=8000000 preempt=full quiet"

I actually still wouldn't have any idea on how to fix nixos if i break my bootloader, but that doesn't happen often, and os rebuild will tell me if i am updating bootloader

half those boot options are probably unneeded and I don't rember why I added them

nixos doesn't use grub too so i haven't run into anything grub related

15:41

risu

efibootmgr -c -b 1 -d /dev/nvme1n1 -p 1 -l /vmlinuz-linux-zen -L "Arch Linux ZEN" -u "root=PARTUUID=e2d6b521-8620-1641-a71c-e4f5d0b86121 rw initrd=\intel-ucode.img initrd=\initramfs-linux-zen.img intel_iommu=on iommu=pt threadirqs lpj=8000000 preempt=full quiet"

I find it kinda cool that this command directly modifies UEFI settings

TsPiggy

I actually still wouldn't have any idea on how to fix nixos if i break my bootloader, but that doesn't happen often, and os rebuild will tell me if i am updating bootloader

actually. i can probably just nuke my system drive and just fucking reinstall nixos from scratch and just build my config and my system will be back.

15:42

i don't put important files on system drive anyway

I remember when something really borked (I think it might've actually been file corruption somehow) and I just chrooted in from my install USB that I always carry around and kept reinstalling core system packages until I found the one that fixed it lol

15:44

it was something something systemd

@meloƞ are you on wayland or x

15:46

i think either my wayland or my mouse driver sometimes stuck on left click. it randomly drag and drops sometimes. and krita brush wasn't working properly just now

15:46

TsPiggy

@meloƞ are you on wayland or x

Wayland

how do i tell if vscode or discord is running with xwayland or ozone?

15:48

maybe it is a xwayland thing. it happens too often with vscode and discord

15:48

the dragging thing

15:50

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=484018

15:50

fair

XD

15:56

2^4 * 3^2

Famous

I just looked at my osu! ranks and it's kinda humorous ranked by which mode I have the highest pp in: 1. standard 2. mania 3. taiko 4. catch the beat ranked by which mode I have the highest rank in: 1. catch the beat 2. taiko 3. mania 4. standard

1

smol pp

rise and shine mr freeman rise and shine not that i wish to imply you have been sleeping on the job no one is more deserving of a rest and all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until well lets just say your hour has come again the right man in the wrong place can make all the difference (edited)

understandable

Ryozuki

rise and shine mr freeman rise and shine not that i wish to imply you have been sleeping on the job no one is more deserving of a rest and all the effort in the world would have gone to waste until well lets just say your hour has come again the right man in the wrong place can make all the difference (edited)

https://youtu.be/O3349-GRjhQ

CoreyLaddo

[SFM] Cut Half-Life 2 Intro

TsPiggy

Click to see attachment 🖼️

THE DUALITY OF ~~MAN~~ MACHINE

18:38

Or is this cognitive dissonance?

https://youtu.be/VItBlmlWE4U

TechAltar

China's city of the future: utopia or dystopia?

19:20

I've never been to Shenzhen, this is quite different from everywhere I've been hmmm

time to travel?

@TsPiggy :(

meloƞ

@TsPiggy :(

Tf you trying

tried building tauri with nix

20:08

but its so ass i stopped

I read linux + nix + npm

1

20:08

= criminal

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@Learath2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM13L_4mWfA

Maths 505

Solving the hardest integral on math stack exchange (cleo's monster...

Ryozuki

@Learath2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM13L_4mWfA

Cleo is such a mystery

its solved

21:53

its a45y guy

21:54

https://x.com/deedydas/status/1891537926372356178?t=ckIoXSKQ7hd99-bdaVZWKg

Deedy (@deedydas) on X

The legendary anon, a 15yo girl called Cleo, posted direct answers to integration problems even professors couldn't solve on Math stack exchange starting in 2013. We finally know her real identity and you guessed it, it's a 48yo Uzbek software engineer in America!

I often wonder if she was just crafting these integrals backwards and posting the questions she solved herself from other accounts

Ryozuki

https://x.com/deedydas/status/1891537926372356178?t=ckIoXSKQ7hd99-bdaVZWKg

Aha, LOL

Ryozuki

https://x.com/deedydas/status/1891537926372356178?t=ckIoXSKQ7hd99-bdaVZWKg

uzbek

-StormAx

why doesnt official client have fast input