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what is this server: 134.122.64.174:8303 ?

134.122.64.174:8303 is not a DDraceNetwork or Community server.

did i get my ip grabbed?

Hecta

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I had a funny idea where, for automap making, you can assign each tile in the menu a little icon which helps elaborate further what the certain tile does

Other icons include:

Several icons for big structures
Several icons for doodads / inside structures
An icon for like, resetting
A clean-up icon
Some puzzle piece icons
Flag icon, sort of vauge but can be used for masks

05:03

@louis @Souly What do you think about this idea? It's in the "hypothetical" phase right now, but it would be cool as hell to see these icons to convey automappers better!

sthis looks so COOOOOOL

^^

louis

what is this server: 134.122.64.174:8303 ?

I have same question

07:23

I have tried to join 2 servers which have over 64 players

07:23

But they all dropped my client with "(versions is unsupported)"

07:24

I want to know which version client they accept.

07:27

And do they violate the 5th rule of master rules? (edited)

Hecta

I had a funny idea where, for automap making, you can assign each tile in the menu a little icon which helps elaborate further what the certain tile does

thats dope

Hecta

I had a funny idea where, for automap making, you can assign each tile in the menu a little icon which helps elaborate further what the certain tile does

what the hell

def-

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

aabe0e9 Update frontpage video - def-

destoros landing front page ddnet by just playing his map is a vibe but i must say the song is a banger!

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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

8511044 Update GER3 costs - def-

Bamcane

And do they violate the 5th rule of master rules? (edited)

master rules? whats that?

<ChillerDragon> https://www.teeworlds.com/?page=docs&wiki=rules/server_rules

ChillerDragon: What I meant is https://ddnet.org/rules/master/

10:50

5.The Server should be joinable via the latest version of the official DDNet client, not requiring a custom client.

Wow didn’t know hvh is an illegal server. Rule 7 is crazy

chillerdragon

Wow didn’t know hvh is an illegal server. Rule 7 is crazy

Is that so? I'd say they are not exclusively for it

10:57

Maybe they mean these non-real time servers

oh these TASNet servers?

So why those servers told my latest version DDNet client is unsupported?

11:50

Could you all join it?

11:58

134.122.64.174:8303

134.122.64.174:8303 is not a DDraceNetwork or Community server.

looks really really weird https://status.tw/server/134.122.64.174/8303

GORES - TOURNAMENT FINAL 100$ - Teeworlds Server

12:11

when you scroll down to player heatmap you can see that its pretty much the same amount of players all the time

I think so.

i wouldnt advise joining it

12:11

couldnt find any info about any big gores tournament running right now either

I guess that it may be a fake server, which only truly opened in some times

12:13

But why its hoster did that?

server having 66 players all the time from 20:00 to 13:00 doesnt look right to me

Could anyone join it?

i dont know and better not to try

Hmm... should it be banned in master?

@heinrich5991 any ideas?

this is not the first case, yesterday there was a similar server with a different name

https://bbycroft.net/llm actually cool web to learn how a gpt model works

LLM Visualization

A 3D animated visualization of an LLM with a walkthrough.

Matodor

this is not the first case, yesterday there was a similar server with a different name

I remembered there was a same player in that similar server.

it's obviously for farming ips for ddos, do not click it

oh no, I have clicked it.

AssassinTee

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9670 Feature Request: New bugfree speedtiles

As multiple times discussed in the discord, the current speedtile implementation is outdated, spaghetti code and very buggy causing multiple bugs. These bugs are deliberately abused by multiple maps like Brain Damage, Cryolis or Jelly. While we can fix one of these bugs, this has major implication as it can potentially lead to time gains in > 400 other maps. This PR implements a new tile for speedtiles which work simply on mathematical principles and vector math. The new tile b...

just finished the new speedtiles, I had a lot of trouble understanding what is happening opposed to the original ones, because the original ones are just broken turns out it's just a really hard problem if you have many things affecting speed like acceleration, friction, and even gravity

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@kebs do you have any questions, since you are already testing?

no, seems fine

14:47

more intuitive to cap the overall players speed

14:47

compared to old tile (edited)

14:48

with max speed 1 is basically like one way tile (edited)

yes, added this to the description as one of the Ceaveats

14:48

old implementation clipped max_speed 1-4 to 5

cyberfighter 2

what the hell

im dedicating all my ddnet power into automapping now

can't wait to add the cruise control speed clipping feature tile :3

Sorry! pr declined! dont feel like maintaining it!

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cool time to fork your open source game! /s (edited)

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14:55

max_speed 1 is really interesting, even the overlay shows acceleration, but it doesn't because of other game settings

14:56

my guess is death by quantization

you can now make slides with the new speedtiles xD btw this is intentional, because they only affect the speed they're pointing to, not the speed perpendicular to them, slide is powered by gravity

15:48

if this would allow for max_speed 0, you could make slopes like this

we got slopes in teeworlds before gta 6

15:51

I mean, I could make slopes, but I already hear the "backwards compat" screams in the background

15:54

thinking about it, it would also basically be a very similar code and they would slow you down

Tater

it's obviously for farming ips for ddos, do not click it

why can you spoof ips

16:04

that should not be possible

Assa

you can now make slides with the new speedtiles xD btw this is intentional, because they only affect the speed they're pointing to, not the speed perpendicular to them, slide is powered by gravity

YOOO thats so cooool

Assa

you can now make slides with the new speedtiles xD btw this is intentional, because they only affect the speed they're pointing to, not the speed perpendicular to them, slide is powered by gravity

HELL YEA

fokkonaut

Click to see attachment 🖼️

lmfao these are awesome

that's really cool even if it doesn't seem intuitive for speedups

agreed, it feels unintuitive, but it makes sense thinking about it

16:27

feels like they are "reflecting" too much force in a way

it kinda looks like if stoppers could be placed diagonally

@Assa which line in the current tile code leads to division by 0 that leads to the same behavior as sg bug ?

take a look at https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9658 in game/server/character.cpp

17:01

there is just a missing - sign

Assa

agreed, it feels unintuitive, but it makes sense thinking about it

well physically force vectors just add

17:23

so it feels unintuitive and it is unintuitive, but you can do cool things with it

this one doesn't if you're breaking the speedlimit

i think theres a bit of potential for fun maps using this quirk

I guess it even depends on your usecase, I look forward to adding more speedtile variants (edited)

louis

so it feels unintuitive and it is unintuitive, but you can do cool things with it

this works with the old ones too

only nobody noticed it because max speed is clipped to 5 and it pushes you a bit more (edited)

17:32

I found yet another bug in the old speedtiles ... can't believe it

Assa

take a look at https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9658 in game/server/character.cpp

but that just set the angle, not the speed ?

17:32

and atan(inf) is pi/2, so the division by 0 is hidden (edited)

are you sure about that? calculating anything with NaN ( = Not a Number) can be extremely gamebreaking

17:36

@louis this is the OLD speedtile (not mine), as you can see you run into the same, and also yet another bug

yeah i see it now

I can continue to shit on the old spaghetti code all day

Assa

are you sure about that? calculating anything with NaN ( = Not a Number) can be extremely gamebreaking

division by 0 with float gives +/- inf, atan(+/- inf) is +/-pi/2 (edited)

Chairn

division by 0 with float gives +/- inf, atan(+/- inf) is +/-pi/2 (edited)

if(NaN) { return 0; };

just tested printf("%f\n", atan(1./0.0f)); // prints 1.570796

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i wish i knew how to properly benchmark code in ddnet i wanna try making the import for automappers faster

18:25

i feel like the code in the Pos 0 0 bit could be turned into a vector of char bits instead of being a while(true) loop

18:26

like, taking the line and making a vector out of them based off of how many words there are in the line (edited)

ChillerDragon: someone on multeasymap is advertising cheats under ur name xD

Koll Potato

ChillerDragon: someone on multeasymap is advertising cheats under ur name xD

what if its chillerdragon himself doing it

Hecta

i wish i knew how to properly benchmark code in ddnet i wanna try making the import for automappers faster

Build in release mode and measure the runtime of function calls using time_get_nanoseconds to get a basic idea. Run the code many times in a loop and take the average to get a better idea. Or use a profiler, e.g. integrated in Visual Studio. Optimizing automapper loading is probably not really worth it though, it only happens once when you load images so unless it's very slow it shouldn't really matter. Optimizing the automapper evaluation would be more useful as this happens more often. (edited)

MilkeeyCat

https://go.dev/blog/go1.24

woooo

Robyt3

Build in release mode and measure the runtime of function calls using time_get_nanoseconds to get a basic idea. Run the code many times in a loop and take the average to get a better idea. Or use a profiler, e.g. integrated in Visual Studio. Optimizing automapper loading is probably not really worth it though, it only happens once when you load images so unless it's very slow it shouldn't really matter. Optimizing the automapper evaluation would be more useful as this happens more often. (edited)

I guess that's fair, I just honestly feel like there's a lot that can be done with this feature.

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9671 Improve editor envelope preview and envelope curve rendering

Improve accuracy of editor envelope preview by increasing number of steps based on envelope time range instead of only evaluating 15 steps, which resulted in artifacts with bezier curves. Avoid more artifacts by stepping through the entire time range at once instead of considering each segment between points individually. Avoid incorrect/missing final line segment in envelope preview and envelope editor curve rendering by adjusting the current time to never reach or exceed the end time, as...