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Between 2025-02-04 00:00 and 2025-02-05 00:00
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@Fandeforce
02:23
dms rq
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@Sans FISHPOSTER
04:55
fish mentioned, so i fish
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Ryozuki
yea u could date the egirls on different sv
pepeW
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! Ak1ty.sck 2025-02-04 06:37
Bad bot
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! Ak1ty.sck
Bad bot
:(
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! Ak1ty.sck 2025-02-04 06:38
Good bot
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! Ak1ty.sck
Good bot
:3
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ᶰ°Konͧsti
global chat could ne a really nice thing
*>Maciek<* 2025-02-04 08:08
If it wouldnt behave like coc chat sure
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.STD !шастик? 2025-02-04 08:16
научите 1 тайл проходить
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¡ 𝔍𝔲𝔫𝔦Ø𝔯愛 ! 2025-02-04 09:43
@japon Can you look at your mp please?
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meloƞ
I agree. "fish" lefishe
@Sans sorry to inform you but spamming reactions is a rule violation. @Bota eat him
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choo choo?
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guys does block make me better at ddrace
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always
guys does block make me better at ddrace
Yes. Reaction, flicks, physics
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@meloƞ I will eat you before bota gets to mee
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meloƞ
Yes. Reaction, flicks, physics
okay good to know my countless hours spent on copy lovebox isnt a waste of time
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except if you play on clb
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shit
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always
okay good to know my countless hours spent on copy lovebox isnt a waste of time
Clb isnt block tho greenthing
10:36
Same as multeasy
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shit
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linear as well
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i gotta block on official ddrace?
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always
i gotta block on official ddrace?
try it lc_ban
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Beat up people on blmap, v3, v3royal, Starblock or chillis blockmap
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meloƞ
Beat up people on blmap, v3, v3royal, Starblock or chillis blockmap
too empty
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These maps make you better
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always
too empty
Blockworlds has 30-40 players daily wdym, enough people to beat up (get beaten up by)
10:37
im too bad for the blmap players
10:37
id rather block 12 year old russians
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Wait for ddnet-rs to grow big and I'll create a dedicated block community
10:38
With blackjack and.. twinbops
10:38
justatest
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meloƞ
With blackjack and.. twinbops
i wanna double down
10:38
justatest
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always
Click to see attachment 🖼️
MF it's 11:30 on a Tuesday
10:39
People ( me included ) are working atm
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where my unemployed blockers??
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always
where my unemployed blockers??
In bed ofc,
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i though blockers were unemployed have no life and are losers
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meloƞ
People ( me included ) are working atm
I didnt know you had a job aside from being tasty sipp
owo 1
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always
i though blockers were unemployed have no life and are losers
@Brokecdx- can you confirm?
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Sans
I didnt know you had a job aside from being tasty sipp
baked
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@meloƞ fr tho, what do you work as
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prostitute i heared
10:40
its not a easy job
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but its honest money
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Sans
@meloƞ fr tho, what do you work as
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 10:40
First word in bio lol
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Precision mechanic in mechanical engineering
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your not a teacher?
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meloƞ
Precision mechanic in mechanical engineering
o
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 10:40
Is it a cover hmm
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♂S1mple♂
First word in bio lol
That was actually just me getting my AGA (apprentice teacher certificate) (edited)
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teach me stuff, ill pay you in twinbops
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Basically allowing me to have apprentice work for me
10:41
I worked/helped out in apprentice school for a year
10:41
Only practical thi
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popular take: twinbop is hot
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 10:42
Unpopular take: grosboule
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Fnokurka>>> everything else
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fnokurka?
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♂S1mple♂
Is it a cover hmm
cover for money laundering
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Sans
fnokurka?
10:46
Clueless
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oh thats hottt
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whadafaq
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when
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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
U
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/skin
10:46
command
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i just got done with school
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wait
10:46
i can make that (edited)
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Anthony, when reach 20K points?
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i have more points than u
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always
cover for money laundering
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 10:46
Melor is onto something
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Anthony
i have more points than u
cammo
twinbop 1
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and i dont grind anymore, locked in for school
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Anthony
and i dont grind anymore, locked in for school
You go little one, fetch that education my
10:47
lock in on ddnet during easter
10:47
1k points
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Sounds hot
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always
/skin
but i dont wanna do allat
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meloƞ
Basically allowing me to have apprentice work for me
bro got apprentices so he can chat on discord gg
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melon just hires a guy to do the work he doesnt wanna do and that guy hires a guy to do what he doesnt wanna do and that repeats
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meloƞ
@Sans sorry to inform you but spamming reactions is a rule violation. @Bota eat him
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always
choo choo?
Choo choo 🚂
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always
/skin
Imma steal that idea thank u
10:52
heh
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Sans
Imma steal that idea thank u
yea make that
10:52
just gotta get the skin from the db and render it how the skindb bot renders it (edited)
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give me 5 minutes
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okay
10:55
i better see a pr
10:55
in 5 minutes
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always
i better see a pr
nah
10:55
i already have my own little ddnet bot
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too late
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in this server
10:55
well
10:56
you can use it wherever
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so
10:56
is it a user app?
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whats it made in?
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typescript/node
10:56
it's mostly a proof of concept and also a test of my ddnet lib
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i see
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@always done
11:27
took me a bit more than 5 minutes because my cheap vm threw a fit
11:27
😩
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nice
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@Unknown
11:28
if you wanna test it out
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unknown user
11:39
discord doing the funny i guess
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meloƞ
@Brokecdx- can you confirm?
peeponervous
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@Ромашка the bind doesnt hammer in the direction that its suppost
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need some1 to help with 1 part
✅ 2
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always
i see
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alfedov
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hi
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 16:54
No, noone does. All the "players" you see on the servers are GPT-driven bots. Try to chat with any of them, you will quickly realize
Replying to @Finpy Anyone play copy love box
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баклан2010 2025-02-04 16:58
guys answer me pls in #questions
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Lillei
No, noone does. All the "players" you see on the servers are GPT-driven bots. Try to chat with any of them, you will quickly realize
nah they don't have the budget for GPT these are like basic chatbots from the 90s
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@APFFF based review
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 17:42
Don't really need any budget for it
Replying to @risu nah they don't have the budget for GPT […]
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Lillei
No, noone does. All the "players" you see on the servers are GPT-driven bots. Try to chat with any of them, you will quickly realize
pretty sure they are deepseek (edited)
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 18:22
What do you think Deepseek-R1 is?
Replying to @always pretty sure they are deepseeo
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true
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hi mirfay
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@always the first clip was edged and afterwards it wasnt classic aled
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oxyzo
hi mirfay
:3
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Mirfay
@always the first clip was edged and afterwards it wasnt classic aled
he edged after
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+ the last aled (edited)
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always
he edged after
u dont get it
18:33
i did it in 1 move
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he had like 3 moves
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people have done it in 1 move before
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2 for 1 and 1 for 1
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always
people have done it in 1 move before
proof?
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there is no proof because people dont clip it its not special
18:34
its just an aled
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 18:34
i did first ever edge
18:34
source: trust me
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sorry to tell you
18:34
you didnt invent anything
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any aled is a aled
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nothing else
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no special name
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yeah mirfay it was done milliard time before
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always
nothing else
ill prove u wrong
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okay
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gimme like a month
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people experimented with aled just right when it was discovered first
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or smt
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are you gonna prove me wrong
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always
are you gonna prove me wrong
find more aleds
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they arent new aleds
18:36
they are just aleds
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aleds with diffrent style points
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bro im not that stupid
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thats not what im trying to do
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what you trying to do
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Mirfay
find more aleds
do an aled using rocket
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yet you thought exactly that
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and only rocket
18:37
no hook or hammer
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with no wall
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to line up on (edited)
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do it on grandma
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Cammodude
and only rocket
hard but possible
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do it
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mirfay i have never seen you around in the brutal servers, do you play on ger?
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"you can only make maps on my skill level" -cammondude
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always
mirfay i have never seen you around in the brutal servers, do you play on ger?
yeah i seen u
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ive never seen you
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why does everyone put an n into my name
18:39
what
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i play stronghold alot
justatest 1
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which one
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stronghold is the linear of brutals
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final and 3
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Cammodude
stronghold is the linear of brutals
true
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Cammodude
stronghold is the linear of brutals
u got it
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and grandma is the multeasymap
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im addikt
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i mean
18:40
its not a bad map
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i keep confusing mirfay with mirghost and mirwaiz on clb
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not mirwaiz
18:40
that guy a trolllllllll
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mirghost copied my name after he left my clan and stayed mad
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idk if hes still mad or not
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idk hes begging me to not kill him
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kill him
18:41
irl shul be fine
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hes some hungarian but acts like russians wtf bro
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ps he uses cactus and last timr on fng he !mute me lmao
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time*
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always
not mirwaiz
wos dat
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troll
18:44
troll
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The amount of people who can do pseudofly with their dummy but only have like 2k points makes me lowkey sad feelsbadman
20:07
nowadays, every t0 run has at least 3 people with dummy (who dont know what they are doing) (edited)
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while i have 7k points and can barely pseudo
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point being: most people "new" to the game only play dummy
20:10
which i cant really blame them for. Because anyone below 1-2k is just straight up blocking and egoing everywhere
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only popular servers are novice and brutal
20:10
they block on brutal and are too good for novice
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exactly
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and t0 maps are easiest to play with a dummy
20:11
easier and "more exciting" than mod
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nobody to play moderates with. one half is too good, the other half is never gonna get beyond novice because all they do is block instead of playing together (which this game is all about)
20:12
TikTok kinda ruined the balance as well as the type of people playing
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worst part is when their dummy gets in the way
20:12
which it does most of the time since its just t0 carrying them and they themselves cant save
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but they always play t0. Egoing their way through with dummy and expect everybody to help.
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Playing with newbies, egoing is truly the only way to make progress (cuz all they do is block). But then they continue that behavior with more advanced players, instantly making themselves disliked. So now they have nobody to play with except dummy and the cycle continues
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Mirfay
@Ромашка the bind doesnt hammer in the direction that its suppost
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:15
This bind is dummy fire, not the dummy hammer. Thats why i can throw with this bind. I flying with normal dummy hammer bind and throwing with the bind i sent you
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i personally like it when the ego players try like 50x to do a part and then they give up and let you do it, you do it on ur 1st or 2nd try and they treat you like a god and except you to 1st try all other parts
20:16
its just so funny
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APFFF
point being: most people "new" to the game only play dummy
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:18
it is just funnier for me to play with dummy
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Dummy playing and playing with partner is very different games
20:19
and i like dummy more
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thats the thing
20:19
only personal opinion, but cooperation is the whole essence of this game
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Ромашка
and i like dummy more
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:19
+ i can easily play with ping 100 and even 300, just because i am using dummy
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APFFF
only personal opinion, but cooperation is the whole essence of this game
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:20
Playing with partner is what this game was made for
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But how in minecraft there is minigames (becoming more popular than main vanila mode) in ddnet there is dummy playstyle that is also very popular
20:21
probably more popular than playing with partner
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:21
Oh man I wish other modes were nearly as popular as DD/gores
Replying to @Ромашка But how in minecraft there is minigames (becoming more popular than main…
20:22
Teeworlds is dead and you killed it
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:22
sorry i won't do it again
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Ромашка
Playing with partner is what this game was made for
Teeworlds is Minecraft. DDNet is one of the minigames. But DDnet was made to be cooperative speedrun multiplayer (edited)
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Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:23
Dummy have 2 main pros: No ping Play when and how much you want
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yes. Specially the 2nd one was the whole reason why dummies got added. But nowadays people prefer dummy over other people. But for most its straight up not understanding the games essence. thats what kinda hurts ddnet atm imo
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APFFF
Teeworlds is Minecraft. DDNet is one of the minigames. But DDnet was made to be cooperative speedrun multiplayer (edited)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:24
My analogy takes specifically DDnet for Minecraft, not TeeWorlds
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Then whats the DDNet Minigame? Playing with Dummy? Thats like saying playing Singleplayer in Minecraft is a Minigame to Multiplayer Minecraft
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APFFF
yes. Specially the 2nd one was the whole reason why dummies got added. But nowadays people prefer dummy over other people. But for most its straight up not understanding the games essence. thats what kinda hurts ddnet atm imo
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:26
for most its straight up not understanding the games essence
I am actually don't think so. Someone likes rpgs, someone shooters. You prefer playing with friend more than with dummy, me (and a lot of other players) prefer playing with dummy and not with friend (if we have group of 4 people it is 8 tees)
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:26
Your analogy makes no sense, try playing GCompris instead of Teeworlds
Replying to @Ромашка My analogy takes specifically DDnet for Minecraft, not TeeWorlds
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APFFF
Then whats the DDNet Minigame? Playing with Dummy? Thats like saying playing Singleplayer in Minecraft is a Minigame to Multiplayer Minecraft
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:27
Minigame = different playstyle in my analogy
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Like
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Minecraft was not made for minigames
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:27
Was Teeworlds?
Replying to @Ромашка Minecraft was not made for minigames
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Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:27
And ddnet was not made for playing with dummy
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:28
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Replying to @Ромашка And ddnet was not made for playing with dummy
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Lillei
Your analogy makes no sense, try playing GCompris instead of Teeworlds
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:28
What is gcompris?
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Lillei
Was Teeworlds?
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:28
wdym?
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:29
A game suite for toddlers
Replying to @Ромашка What is gcompris?
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Basically what im trying to say is: DDNet has its own playstyle. Thats what makes DDNet and its Community fun. Most other games have a different playstyle/mindset (versus rather than cooperative). Now that DDNet got slightly popular, many people join the community, but still have their "versus" mindset. And Dummy allows them to "stick" to that mindset. Not being able to play with dummy would "force" new players to either adapt the DDNet playlist/mindset or go play another game
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Lillei
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Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:31
So that is sense of analogy: Minecraft was not created for minigames, but it was they who gained great popularity than the main vanilla game DDnet was not created for playing with dummy, but this did not prevent dummy playstyle from gaining popularity comparable to the main idea of ​​DDnet
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:32
idm dummy players as long as they don't ego or do stupid stuff
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Again, mostly talking about newer players (edited)
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APFFF
Basically what im trying to say is: DDNet has its own playstyle. Thats what makes DDNet and its Community fun. Most other games have a different playstyle/mindset (versus rather than cooperative). Now that DDNet got slightly popular, many people join the community, but still have their "versus" mindset. And Dummy allows them to "stick" to that mindset. Not being able to play with dummy would "force" new players to either adapt the DDNet playlist/mindset or go play another game
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:32
DDNet has its own playstyle.
Everyone plays the game as he wants. Of course, it can be argued that the games are most likely more interesting if they play exactly as it was conceived. But this does not cancel the possibility that in the game you can find other methods of getting pleasure
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Yeah but it hurts everyone else's experience
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IMO: If you wanna play dummy so bad, go play in team, not t0 (edited)
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APFFF
Again, mostly talking about newer players (edited)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:34
Then we need to hear these newbies and not fantasize how they really think. Maybe they are really would prefer playing with another human rather than with dummy
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APFFF
IMO: If you wanna play dummy so bad, go play in team, not t0 (edited)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:34
I am want to play with other players
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Just with my dummy
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So we help each other
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Ромашка
Then we need to hear these newbies and not fantasize how they really think. Maybe they are really would prefer playing with another human rather than with dummy
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:34
let's ask toddler if he likes chemistry or quantum physics
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chose one: dummy (ego as much as you want) OR play with others
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:34
how they know the difference
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APFFF
Yeah but it hurts everyone else's experience
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:34
how does it hurts?
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APFFF
chose one: dummy (ego as much as you want) OR play with others
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:35
Why can't i pick both?
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APFFF
Basically what im trying to say is: DDNet has its own playstyle. Thats what makes DDNet and its Community fun. Most other games have a different playstyle/mindset (versus rather than cooperative). Now that DDNet got slightly popular, many people join the community, but still have their "versus" mindset. And Dummy allows them to "stick" to that mindset. Not being able to play with dummy would "force" new players to either adapt the DDNet playlist/mindset or go play another game
re-read this
20:36
dummy player mindset -> ego mindset t0 with ego mindset -> no fun
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♂S1mple♂
let's ask toddler if he likes chemistry or quantum physics
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:36
Yes, let's. We will hear his idea of ​​chemistry and quantum physics, we will be able to adjust this idea and hear the conclusion about this.
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APFFF
dummy player mindset -> ego mindset t0 with ego mindset -> no fun
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:36
dummy player mindset -> ego mindset
Logical error
(edited)
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Ромашка
Dummy have 2 main pros: No ping Play when and how much you want
beat rivendell with dummy only
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Ромашка
dummy player mindset -> ego mindset
Logical error
(edited)
which is?
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APFFF
which is?
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:37
that one
dummy player mindset -> ego mindset
(edited)
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Ромашка
Yes, let's. We will hear his idea of ​​chemistry and quantum physics, we will be able to adjust this idea and hear the conclusion about this.
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:37
i have absolutely 0 idea what that supposed to mean
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okay then why play with dummy IN T0 @Ромашка (edited)
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Cammodude
beat rivendell with dummy only
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:37
what will it proof?
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dummy sux
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except ping. Because most people have decent ping
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APFFF
okay then why play with dummy IN T0 @Ромашка (edited)
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:39
either ego or get a save when failed (most likely won't help in return)
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♂S1mple♂
either ego or get a save when failed (most likely won't help in return)
exactly
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♂S1mple♂
i have absolutely 0 idea what that supposed to mean
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:39
Even children have an idea of ​​chemistry and some rumors about quantum physics (even if these rumors are false). We will listen to their performance, thereby understand how they think. Next, we can adjust these ideas so that they can make a new decision closer to their interests.
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:39
that covers at least 80% dummy t0 players
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Now that seems pretty ass to everyone else, doesnt it? (edited)
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:40
When going with someone, kill their dummy
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:40
Brutals often have spikes so not a problem
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APFFF
okay then why play with dummy IN T0 @Ромашка (edited)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:40
assistance
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Go play dummy as much as you want. But pick between cooperation or doing shit on your own
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Lillei
When going with someone, kill their dummy
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:40
dummy dies > kill
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Ромашка
assistance
nice rewording for "ego"
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:41
i'd say fancy
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Lillei
When going with someone, kill their dummy
i personally kill my dummy myself instead of letting them do it but ok
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♂S1mple♂
either ego or get a save when failed (most likely won't help in return)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:41
But we can also say about any not dummy players: If they are not skill enough for the map, they will fail and everyone else should return and help them
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:41
Dummy for me but not thee
Replying to @Cammodude i personally kill my dummy myself instead of letting them do it but ok
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APFFF
nice rewording for "ego"
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:41
(sorry what does ego mean?)
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"Ima take my dummy so I can do all the stuff myself because I dont care for anyone else on my team, but when I die with my dummy i EXPECT you to help me, because we are a team"
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to me dummy in t0 will always be a "you have a chance to try some bullshit strat and nothing bad will happen if you fail"
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you cant 1) sh*t on your team and then 2) expect help from the team (edited)
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But we can also say about any not dummy players: If they are not skill enough for the map, they will fail and everyone else should return and help them
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:42
there's no in between, t0 non dummy player has to rely on a group whilst dummy player has opportunity to ego his way and most likely use it (edited)
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:42
For almost everyone dummy on t0 is aled fuel
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♂S1mple♂
that covers at least 80% dummy t0 players
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:43
if not-dummy player isn't skill enough - he dies and everyone help him if dummy player isn't skill enough - he dies and everyone help him If not-dummy player is skill enough - he helps his group with beating map If dummy player is skill enough - he helps his group with beating map i don't really see any difference
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dummy on t0 is a sacrifice for spikes
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APFFF
"Ima take my dummy so I can do all the stuff myself because I dont care for anyone else on my team, but when I die with my dummy i EXPECT you to help me, because we are a team"
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:43
That is not assistance, that is egoistic
20:43
assistance is antonym to egoistic
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Ромашка
assistance is antonym to egoistic
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:44
it's not
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♂S1mple♂
it's not
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:44
It is
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if not-dummy player isn't skill enough - he dies and everyone help him if dummy player isn't skill enough - he dies and everyone help him If not-dummy player is skill enough - he helps his group with beating map If dummy player is skill enough - he helps his group with beating map i don't really see any difference
if dummy player and dummy are dead, your incredible "2 unfreezes on a single hammerhit" will turn into a "you better pray it was successful"
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:44
you can assist egoistically
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e.g triple fly everyone
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okay, which dummy player ONLY takes along their dummy for "assistance" but does the map with everyone else except when "assistance" is needed. The only time you take your dummy for "assistance" is when you want to flex on lesser experienced players or ego play the map (edited)
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it's not
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:45
Assistance - helping a group, a potential price of yourself. Ego(?) - help to yourself, at the cost of the group.
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should make it that anyone that tries to 3fly with a dummy and fails will instantly get banned
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:46
-# should ban dummies
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:46
No, their dummy would just get deeped
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Cammodude
if dummy player and dummy are dead, your incredible "2 unfreezes on a single hammerhit" will turn into a "you better pray it was successful"
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:46
? But what is the difference when player1 died and player1's friend is died?
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help to yourself, at the cost of the group <- definition for t0 dummy players
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? But what is the difference when player1 died and player1's friend is died?
okay try moving right on your main while moving left on your dummy
20:46
you cant control two at the same time
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Assistance - helping a group, a potential price of yourself. Ego(?) - help to yourself, at the cost of the group.
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:46
read message i wrote just above, you don't have to answer every little bit of messages of everyone to prove your point
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you can assist egoistically
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:47
But if i have no choice? Like i know i will save more likely with triple fly than other way, so why should i not doing it?
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read message i wrote just above, you don't have to answer every little bit of messages of everyone to prove your point
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:47
you don't have to answer every little bit of messages of everyone to prove your point
how do i know what messages i should answer for?
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But if i have no choice? Like i know i will save more likely with triple fly than other way, so why should i not doing it?
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:47
at this point just give finishes to random people
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tbh
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tentrom finish for me please
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you don't have to answer every little bit of messages of everyone to prove your point
how do i know what messages i should answer for?
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:48
read?
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okay, which dummy player ONLY takes along their dummy for "assistance" but does the map with everyone else except when "assistance" is needed. The only time you take your dummy for "assistance" is when you want to flex on lesser experienced players or ego play the map (edited)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:48
Two friends can do the same, Dummy has nothing to do with it
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youre treating it like players are equal to dummies
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Cammodude
should make it that anyone that tries to 3fly with a dummy and fails will instantly get banned
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:49
People can try to brag and playing with a friend, the same triple for example
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APFFF
help to yourself, at the cost of the group <- definition for t0 dummy players
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:50
It is not definition!
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:50
Have to be honest, most players are less useful than a deeped dummy nowadays
Replying to @Cammodude youre treating it like players are equal to dummies
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no thats only the novice
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:50
Yeah, most players (edited)
Replying to @Cammodude no thats only the novice
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make a friend on an insane or high brutal server
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youll dominate with them
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:51
Brutals are filled with novices though
Replying to @Cammodude make a friend on an insane or high brutal server
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Lillei
Have to be honest, most players are less useful than a deeped dummy nowadays
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:51
is your ddnet name same as here?
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Lillei
Brutals are filled with novices though
only ones with no noobfilter
20:51
or a really easy noobfilter
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:52
Not really I only played with this name a few times to let a friend find me in server list by search
Replying to @♂S1mple♂ is your ddnet name same as here?
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if you put on a map with a noobfilter like flux has then no novice will get trough
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:52
Whatever the popular brutals are, Grandma, 2 back in the day or whatever it was called
Replying to @Cammodude only ones with no noobfilter
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yeah
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Not really I only played with this name a few times to let a friend find me in server list by search
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:53
i was about to accuse you considering your finishes but nvm
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easy noobfilters
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brutals with hard noobfilters are better
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strong(hold) has a hard noobfilter (edited)
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Cammodude
you cant control two at the same time
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:53
Yes, and this can really mean that in some points Dummy Player will be statistically worse than non-dummy Player. But what's wrong with that? After all, you can have a lack of skill and playing with a friend. The armless disabled person is also allowed to play DDNET, despite the fact that he is statistically worse than other players. But if he learns to pass novice cards with his feet - why don't he go on novice cards with everyone, although again, he has some limits in the capabilities of the game and, on the whole, plays statistically worse than others?
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at this point just give finishes to random people
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:54
wdym?
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:54
Ik, the problem is that these are the popular brutals
Replying to @Cammodude easy noobfilters
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why did you bring disabled people into this
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read?
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:55
i mean, I read the message, I understood the thought (probably), which they wanted to convey to me, did not agree with this thought and therefore answered the message that brought me this thought
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wdym?
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:55
if you here just to drag people from point A (start) to B (finish) why you wouldn't just skip the process /s (edited)
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 20:56
Ah yes, the play cycle is join, finish, leave. Why not skip the intermediate…
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Cammodude
youre treating it like players are equal to dummies
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:57
It depends on what we are talking about. Dummy is a bad interlocutor or chess-opponent, but as a tee, his hitbox is no different from the normal player hitbox. The power of the hammer is the same. Hook is the same length.
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dummy is deadweight the moment you stop controlling it
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humans can still adapt and take action after they finish a part
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a dummy is just a clone of yourself. Its basically saying: i would like to play much rather with myself than with you guys (edited)
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ever wondered why you never see dummies on kog
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why did you bring disabled people into this
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:59
analogy. You pointed to the dummy player's restrictions, I compared them with the restrictions of a disabled person who is not forbidden to contact other people
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ever wondered why you never see dummies on kog
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 20:59
i saw some tases of dummy on kog trollet
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if you here just to drag people from point A (start) to B (finish) why you wouldn't just skip the process /s (edited)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 20:59
no no. By triple fly i meant unfreezing with triple
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analogy. You pointed to the dummy player's restrictions, I compared them with the restrictions of a disabled person who is not forbidden to contact other people
i am yet to meet a single disabled person that can compete with other players
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 21:00
Dummy lives matter
Replying to @Ромашка It depends on what we are talking about. Dummy is a bad interlocutor or …
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Dummy rights are tee rights
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 21:00
exactly my thought while reading that
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Cammodude
dummy is deadweight the moment you stop controlling it
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:02
Yes, they have such a minus. On the other hand, they also have a number of advantages, some of which can even cover these disadvantages. And once again I will quote my analogy with a disabled person, who, despite the restrictions, is allowed to play with others, if he can do it, despite his restrictions
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Lillei BOT 2025-02-04 21:02
I am mentally disabled and compete just fine
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he was talking about physical disabilities
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of course mental disabilities are fine
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i yolo into spikes all the time and have 7k pts
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APFFF
a dummy is just a clone of yourself. Its basically saying: i would like to play much rather with myself than with you guys (edited)
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:03
Well, what if I play with my friend? "I will rather play with my friend than with you" Even in ordinary groups, almost unchanged couples are usually divided
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Yes, they have such a minus. On the other hand, they also have a number of advantages, some of which can even cover these disadvantages. And once again I will quote my analogy with a disabled person, who, despite the restrictions, is allowed to play with others, if he can do it, despite his restrictions
most dummy players suck at the game and just slow t0 down
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they cant do it
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Well, what if I play with my friend? "I will rather play with my friend than with you" Even in ordinary groups, almost unchanged couples are usually divided
imagine you go play a map with your friend. You really both taking your dummies??
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Cammodude
ever wondered why you never see dummies on kog
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:04
cause dummy playstyle. Not very well suitable for kog maps (I play kog with Dummy, but it is difficult to call kog)
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APFFF
imagine you go play a map with your friend. You really both taking your dummies??
yes if its faily and multiple hours long
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Cammodude
i am yet to meet a single disabled person that can compete with other players
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:06
Yes, after all, armless disabled people 1 to 1000, use a computer of 1 to 1000, play games 1 per 1000 of them. As a result, you will meet an armless disabled person playing a game with a chance of 1 on 1e9. But I did not quite understand what you are leading to
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disabled people know they have a disadvantage when playing so they mostly stick to casual games
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dummy players have a disadvantage yet theyre still in t0 playing hard brutals
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theyre not skilled enough to be there
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Cammodude
most dummy players suck at the game and just slow t0 down
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:10
But nothing prevents ordinary players from playing poorly, as a good game from Dummy Player is possible! Even if the Dummy players are statistically will be worse than ordinary players, this does not prevent them from passing maps, if they can. If they are not good enough for passing the map - they are die and try again (or/or) go to a more suitable maps for them (for example, a simpler maps)
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they do not go to a more suitable map
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and bad players die on their own
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APFFF
imagine you go play a map with your friend. You really both taking your dummies??
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:11
thats how i playing with my friends/clan (Of course, I have comrades who are happy to play with their friends)
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discord broken
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But nothing prevents ordinary players from playing poorly, as a good game from Dummy Player is possible! Even if the Dummy players are statistically will be worse than ordinary players, this does not prevent them from passing maps, if they can. If they are not good enough for passing the map - they are die and try again (or/or) go to a more suitable maps for them (for example, a simpler maps)
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 21:24
tbf this whole topic was already thoroughly discussed in https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1263208055554838629, mostly just going to the same conclusion that some dummy-less servers woudn't hurt
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Cammodude
disabled people know they have a disadvantage when playing so they mostly stick to casual games
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:34
sorry for leaving from chat, discord glitched and i was not able to read or send messages. we can continue tomorrow if you want
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tbf this whole topic was already thoroughly discussed in https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1263208055554838629, mostly just going to the same conclusion that some dummy-less servers woudn't hurt
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:41
in that topic they are just talked about bad egoistic players, as you guys did in our talk. you all doing logical error at this point:
Dummy player = non-skilled egoistic 69iq
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Can we all agree that egos are bad no matter if they ego with dummy or alone?
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Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:42
This is called self-hypnosis, if translated rightly
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meloƞ
Can we all agree that egos are bad no matter if they ego with dummy or alone?
♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 21:42
can we agree that watermelon is tastier
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meloƞ
Can we all agree that egos are bad no matter if they ego with dummy or alone?
Ромашка 2025-02-04 21:42
yes
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somoene come carry me on grandma
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♂S1mple♂ 2025-02-04 21:43
it's just that there's far more egoistic dummy players than just egoistic players
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anoyone plat copy love box
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Finpy
anoyone plat copy love box
alot of people play that
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any ddnet mathematics and physicians here?
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how to get to the left edge
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d+jump or just d while frozen and being hammered (edited)
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they tried like every possible combination nothing is 100%
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skill issue
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Chairn
d+jump or just d while frozen and being hammered (edited)
wdym hammered
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im the only one here
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map ?
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doesnt seem like linear to me
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grandma
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well, you should obviously not be alone there, it's a 2p part
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just luck it out now
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Chairn
well, you should obviously not be alone there, it's a 2p part
yea thats why my dummy is laying there in the freeze
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it worked
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𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖔𝖒𝖔 2025-02-04 23:41
Hi, does anyone have a practice map (kog)?
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any pro players trying to play 2 days in the back speedrun? or just passing the map
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@Gumba ima post it tomorrow so more people see this masterpiece 😎
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