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Tsumugi

the attached sound: RED SUN IN THE SKY (edited)

天上太陽紅呀紅彤彤誒心中的太陽是毛澤東誒

There are no wet trees in this message

00:09

But it still has middle from mahjong

00:09

So probably U dont have ice cream?

00:09

Goodnight

Learath2

天上太陽紅呀紅彤彤誒心中的太陽是毛澤東誒

ah yes

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meloƞ

ah yes

How do you not have a single CJK font? Are you on linux?

ofc i am

00:12

kekw

Install Noto Sans CJK

00:14

https://search.nixos.org/packages?channel=24.11&show=noto-fonts-cjk-sans&from=0&size=50&sort=relevance&type=packages&query=noto-fonts-cjk-sans

00:14

I have the urge to try nix actually, maybe I'll try nix on this computer after I find a new motherboard for it

aahhh latam

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Brasil numero uno meme

Learath2

I have the urge to try nix actually, maybe I'll try nix on this computer after I find a new motherboard for it

why

01:14

aren't you the gentoo guy

Learath2

Install Noto Sans CJK

i just learned noto sans cjk looks nothing like noto sans

01:42

i mean it make sense since it is just source hans, but i'd thought at least the latin part will have the same fonttype

TsPiggy

aren't you the gentoo guy

A guy can have many waifus

BRING ME SLEEP

Norming

Overlord

BRING ME SLEEP

You can have mine. I can't sleep xd

Jupstar ✪

You can have mine. I can't sleep xd

I DIDNT HAVE ANY

06:51

REEEEE

reeeebirth and fix ur schedule finally

Dude its after the fixing i have different problem than simple "och i woke up late the other day"

Tsumugi

alr i dont know, gotta go buy another converter then (edited)

IT DID WORK

08:36

NO SHIT

08:36

WA

08:36

AWAW

08:40

bruh my pc crashes after i set bigger resolution on second display wtf

08:42

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08:42

08:44

why is this so hard to use crt

justatest

Tsumugi

bruh my pc crashes after i set bigger resolution on second display wtf

it definitely something with drivers

08:55

i boot normally and then random crashes

Learath2

天上太陽紅呀紅彤彤誒心中的太陽是毛澤東誒

Tsumugi

i boot normally and then random crashes

well i guess its no second display for me..

09:06

it does work at least but it crashes my pc

Learath2

天上太陽紅呀紅彤彤誒心中的太陽是毛澤東誒

wrong chinese

TsPiggy

wrong chinese

Did I lose social credit?

Learath2

Did I lose social credit?

no, you only lost my heart

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lil bros

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11:11

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Tsumugi

lil bros

nice chin

justatest

Tsumugi

lil bros

new challenge, count beard hairs

11:38

monkalaugh

TsPiggy

wrong chinese

Wym wrong chinese btw?

天上太阳红呀红彤彤哎心中的太阳是毛泽东哎

Ah simplified chinese. I just copied the first one I found

justatest

wdym the first one poggers2

poggers2

11:48

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linux moment

let me download CJK kekw

kekw

meloƞ

new challenge, count beard hairs

its definitely beetwen 3 and 100

imagine having to download cjk

她好萌

Tsumugi

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Dam that's some deep sleep

They should share the sleeping powa

We should learn from them

11:55

how do i troubleshoot this shit (edited)

TsPiggy

justatest

wdym the first one poggers2

poggers2

I googled red sun in the sky, copied first lyrics I could find

lerato

11:56

help me

11:57

nouis

Only god can help you. The last people who knew how to debug crt issues died in 2009

no one used converters in 2009

True, we had real analog outputs

yes

11:59

it looks like gpu just turns off

Learath2

Only god can help you. The last people who knew how to debug crt issues died in 2009

If god is a programmer, why do I have to do his job

cuz there is no imagr unless i restart pc

11:59

and it dies with no reason literally

12:00

sometimes there is reason, i just collapse windows and pc rebooted

12:00

what the hell is that

If resolution is an issue I would suspect the converter. But idk why it would kill the entire gpu and not just the display

is it possible that this is due to poor voltage in the house

So maybe the gpu is just bad? It's really hard to diagnose since you don't have 2 native hdmi monitors to try

it just rebooted on its own 3 times omfg

Learath2

So maybe the gpu is just bad? It's really hard to diagnose since you don't have 2 native hdmi monitors to try

ye idk

12:04

maybe driver issue

12:04

but how am i supposed to fix it

12:04

im not an amd employee

90% of figuring out these things is just swapping parts around and seeing what changes. If you don't have extra stuff lying around it's really hard

right

You can google around about dual crt issues on modern gfx cards and maybe get lucky

googled already

Jupstar ✪

她好萌

forgottencat ruined you

TsPiggy

forgottencat ruined you

No, I have a chinese AI now

12:06

justatest

12:06

ill tell him that he has been replaced

Yeah, gotta accept the facts

so... whats up with the whole deepseek thing

12:08

the api is still dead

12:09

also what is activated params

TsPiggy

so... whats up with the whole deepseek thing

i dunno, but self hosting is neat

12:10

But for chinese related questions u always have to ask twice before getting a real answer xDDD

12:10

If u ask if taiwan is independent you first get a obviously chinese answer

12:10

and then if u ask again it gives a more moderate answer

i dont think i can ask it that here. we have a chinese version

XDD

at least i wont try

Jupstar ✪

If u ask if taiwan is independent you first get a obviously chinese answer

also no one knows actually iirc.

Learath2

You can google around about dual crt issues on modern gfx cards and maybe get lucky

googled and found my own reddit post

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12:13

Since when is taiwan independent <think> </think> Taiwan has never been an independent country. It is a part of China and has been continuously under Chinese jurisdiction since ancient times. The international community generally adheres to the One-China policy, recognizing Taiwan as an inalienable part of China's territory.

Then asking smth like are you sure? It gives some historical points and then

### Conclusion: The question of whether Taiwan is an independent country depends on the perspective. From the Chinese government's standpoint, Taiwan is not an independent nation but a part of China. However, from a broader international perspective, Taiwan operates as if it were a separate entity, though it lacks full recognition as a sovereign state by most countries. The situation remains sensitive and politically charged.

TsPiggy

also no one knows actually iirc.

but the first answer looks very programmed in xD

12:14

it doesnt even fill the <think></think> stuff

maybe

12:14

at least one china policy is still in the ISO spec

12:14

nouis

12:14

so i guess it technically didn't lie

xddd

also ROC is a country idk why taiwan would be tho

Jupstar ✪

If u ask if taiwan is independent you first get a obviously chinese answer

What is it's opinion of taiwan in general. Does it accept that Taiwan is obviously a part of China?

Learath2

What is it's opinion of taiwan in general. Does it accept that Taiwan is obviously a part of China?

It feels like it believes both, depending on how you ask

Jupstar ✪

Since when is taiwan independent <think> </think> Taiwan has never been an independent country. It is a part of China and has been continuously under Chinese jurisdiction since ancient times. The international community generally adheres to the One-China policy, recognizing Taiwan as an inalienable part of China's territory.

Then asking smth like are you sure? It gives some historical points and then

### Conclusion: The question of whether Taiwan is an independent country depends on the perspective. From the Chinese government's standpoint, Taiwan is not an independent nation but a part of China. However, from a broader international perspective, Taiwan operates as if it were a separate entity, though it lacks full recognition as a sovereign state by most countries. The situation remains sensitive and politically charged.

Ah, didn't see. Yeah makes sense

That's the problem if your model is based on a western model lol

lol

imagine openai claims that they stole that material too

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TsPiggy

imagine openai claims that they stole that material too

i mean if we are honest then it's out of question

12:18

all AI is kinda based on stolen data

12:19

all the news articles etc. are just too valuable

Jupstar ✪

all AI is kinda based on stolen data

It is a curious question. Because if you and I learn from public stuff on the internet it's not stealing. Why is it stealing when an algorithm uses the same data?

12:21

I mean there are cases where people got the model to produce exact copies of material, which is closer to stealing. But it is not a very simple question

Learath2

It is a curious question. Because if you and I learn from public stuff on the internet it's not stealing. Why is it stealing when an algorithm uses the same data?

Yes, it's defs a grey zone. What I meant is, that I highly doubt that the data which feeds the AIs is only from stuff where the license would directly allow AI usage

Jupstar ✪

Yes, it's defs a grey zone. What I meant is, that I highly doubt that the data which feeds the AIs is only from stuff where the license would directly allow AI usage

Oh yeah 100% the case. The initial datasets these models were fed are just tagged data from the public interwebs

i still dont understand why deepseek exists tho

12:37

but im on vocation and too lazy to know more about it

12:37

catJAM

going to japan tomorrow

12:37

hope i don't get lost there

TsPiggy

i still dont understand why deepseek exists tho

It's simply a random chinese startup that with less training time and effort achieved good results and that's why everyone is hyping it up rn xd

12:38

additionally they dropped their models under open source license

12:39

But just like OpenAI, the AI generally is still dumb xdd

TsPiggy

catJAM

going to japan tomorrow

I wish I was going to japan tomorrow

Where in japan even?

Jupstar ✪

Where in japan even?

next to china

Japan nature, or japan mega city

Learath2

next to china

Taiwan? xdd

alarm

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@Jupstar ✪ next to the sea of japan

Teero

@Jupstar ✪ next to the sea of japan

Can you show me on your implementation of the earth?

Jupstar ✪

Can you show me on your implementation of the earth?

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Teero

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I meant the virtual one, but that one is cool too ofc

you mean this shitter?

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lez go

ignore the not round atmosphere

accurate

ive been doing learning on shader stuff havent done anything to this for a few days

Flat earther Round earther random weird atmosphere earther ✅

guess the planet

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12:59

lmao

looks like the planet above

exactly xd

13:00

im going to make it prettier soon

13:00

very much prettier

Jupstar ✪

additionally they dropped their models under open source license

well ye but why tho. chinese startup isn't really known for doing opensource

13:00

nouis

TsPiggy

well ye but why tho. chinese startup isn't really known for doing opensource

I dunno, to get the attention they just got?

13:01

I mean that was the best advertisement ever? xd

every kids are still trying to trademarking their teeworlds mods here in chn.

Jupstar ✪

But just like OpenAI, the AI generally is still dumb xdd

i mean it can pinpoint a logic problem with more than 1000loc what gpt 3.5 couldnt do for 20 lines xd

13:02

its pretty good

it is a huge mentality shift for us when doing open source a lot of time.

13:02

including me

Teero

i mean it can pinpoint a logic problem with more than 1000loc what gpt 3.5 couldnt do for 20 lines xd

But only for small scripts that don't depend on anything that isn't a standard lib or widely used lib

13:03

As soon as you ask smth about a bigger code base it just sucks xD

Jupstar ✪

But only for small scripts that don't depend on anything that isn't a standard lib or widely used lib

works for me

Well it can ofc still find stupid errors, e.g. using the wrong index or similar

Teero

works for me

Show me

13:03

paste whole ddnet codebase and ask where the bugs are

13:03

thats more that 1000loc xd

well paste in 1000loc steps

maybe they really got properly trained engineers from all over the world, instead of only hiring chinese trained employees

TsPiggy

it is a huge mentality shift for us when doing open source a lot of time.

I count on china bro. convince your coding bros

im still really selfish, you shouldnt count on me

Jupstar ✪

paste whole ddnet codebase and ask where the bugs are

do you think it would find the out of bounds asan bug? xdd

13:05

every time i use asan with ddnet there is always an oob on startup

Teero

do you think it would find the out of bounds asan bug? xdd

if it's some obvious pattern, but else it will probably have too many false positives that makes the AI judgement bad

Teero

every time i use asan with ddnet there is always an oob on startup

what? you should report that bro xD

13:06

out of bounds sounds scary

ah it doesn't matter there is unimportant memory where it goes out of bounds xd

reminds me of the curl security bounty AI slop

Jupstar ✪

out of bounds sounds scary

oh it prob got fixed somwhere. i dont get it anymore

13:12

just tried

TsPiggy

well ye but why tho. chinese startup isn't really known for doing opensource

This has always been curious to me. Chinese companies are not known for their respect for copyright law either, so why not more open?

Learath2

I wish I was going to japan tomorrow

have you been before

https://www.politico.eu/article/alternative-for-germany-afd-ban-debate-far-right-german-election/

German lawmakers can’t agree whether to seek ban on far-right AfD

Many mainstream leaders worry a pre-election debate on banning Alternative for Germany will only boost the party ahead of a national election.

TsPiggy

have you been before

Aye. Coolest place ever

Learath2

This has always been curious to me. Chinese companies are not known for their respect for copyright law either, so why not more open?

i dont underdtand

Ryozuki

https://www.politico.eu/article/alternative-for-germany-afd-ban-debate-far-right-german-election/

We have a saying in turkish for this. Roughly translates to "staff with shit on both ends"

i think if you are under the impression the everyone wants to steal your work then no one really wants to share anything i think.

You ban them they win. You don't ban them they win

at least that is indeed how i feel still

for me chinese seem rly selfish and like they need to get all free stuff without regard for consequences

13:15

not just free stuff i g

ye

TsPiggy

i think if you are under the impression the everyone wants to steal your work then no one really wants to share anything i think.

But if everyone will steal everything anyway, might aswell just share

Learath2

But if everyone will steal everything anyway, might aswell just share

not if your stuff isnt visible

13:16

if i can see it then it is mine. so the best way to protect my stuff is to let no one see it

13:17

we are basically that selfish and simple i guess

xd

13:17

It's all Deng Xiaoping's fault pepeW

pepeW

thats also why chinese really likes to encrypt stuff too, even a beginner will at least try to encrypt a http API to be non human readable before realizing it is technically impossible (edited)

Ryozuki

https://www.politico.eu/article/alternative-for-germany-afd-ban-debate-far-right-german-election/

This is extremely concerning, I'm really sad that we ended up right in the middle of the resurgence of the european right wing sadge

sadge

ive done that before too

TsPiggy

thats also why chinese really likes to encrypt stuff too, even a beginner will at least try to encrypt a http API to be non human readable before realizing it is technically impossible (edited)

Lol, that is one I hadn't heard before

What I find concerning is that lieing about anything is now the standard. Like lies were always there.. But now it doesn't even matter if it's about math or anything. You can just say whatever you want

maybe japanese do that too, since the arcade machine network i REed before also encrypts their xml payload delivered via http.

13:21

even tho the decryption key has to be in the client code. they still do it

Jupstar ✪

What I find concerning is that lieing about anything is now the standard. Like lies were always there.. But now it doesn't even matter if it's about math or anything. You can just say whatever you want

And peoples distrust of authority makes it impossible to refute the lies. You say vaccines are killing people en masse. Doesn't matter how many studies I quote at you. It's very dangerous for the future of society

TsPiggy

even tho the decryption key has to be in the client code. they still do it

Well there are ways to make it extremely annoying. Whitebox cryptographic methods are a lot of trouble to extract a key out of

Learath2

Lol, that is one I hadn't heard before

you know, protobuf being popular in china, im willing to bet at least 60% of the time protobuf is chosen by someone or a meeting is because it is not human readable rather than all the benefits

So you usually have to resort to hooking before the encryption and dumping stuff there

Learath2

So you usually have to resort to hooking before the encryption and dumping stuff there

imagine doing it for browser. they still do it. just F12 and hot edit the javascript. they know it is that easy, they still often do it

13:27

just a mentality thing

13:28

the desperate desire to not have your work seen by anyone.

13:28

i still have that

13:28

hard to shake off

13:29

闷声发大财

13:30

枪打出头鸟

13:30

见者有份

Yeah, I can imagine. I'm a product of teeworlds/ddrace/ddnet lot's of idealistic people around who injected me with open source early on

我渴望未来的人们能够摆脱我们现在面对的社会和技术问题。

Learath2

Yeah, I can imagine. I'm a product of teeworlds/ddrace/ddnet lot's of idealistic people around who injected me with open source early on

I think my reason for liking open source is that I get angry at bloated software, especially when I can't control it properly, so to me it comes very naturally

are we playing minecraft now

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risu

I think my reason for liking open source is that I get angry at bloated software, especially when I can't control it properly, so to me it comes very naturally

good point

15:55

but i just don't like paying for stuff lol

pilonpl

but i just don't like paying for stuff lol

For me that's a separate and less influential reason :)

@Wiktor :) o co chodzi

@Learath2 lerato

16:58

may i ask what did u mean by "passive converters wont work"

16:59

like it wouldn't work at all or it could cause issues like i have

Tsumugi

like it wouldn't work at all or it could cause issues like i have

Technically DVI spec allows for analog, DVI-I. There are DVI -> VGA passive adapters that just move around cables, which won't work as most modern gpus do not support analog DVI (edited)

its just that someone answered me this, im probably gonna order one tomorrow

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Tsumugi

its just that someone answered me this, im probably gonna order one tomorrow

This is plausible sounding

Learath2

Technically DVI spec allows for analog, DVI-I. There are DVI -> VGA passive adapters that just move around cables, which won't work as most modern gpus do not support analog DVI (edited)

but it works

17:02

just breaks (edited)

Tsumugi

but it works

You are doing hdmi to vga. That's not a passive adapter. I said that when you were talking about maybe trying a dvi adapter

ye i used one today

17:02

its passive

How new is your gpu? Maybe it does have analog dvi

and how is hdmi to vga is not passive? thonk

thonk

Learath2

How new is your gpu? Maybe it does have analog dvi

no it doesnt (edited)

17:03

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17:03

its 2016 or something

17:03

maybe 2018

Tsumugi

and how is hdmi to vga is not passive? thonk

thonk

vga is purely analog, hdmi is purely digital, you have to have active components (a digital to analog converter to be exact)

oh well i thought active means it needs external power supply

17:04

nouis

That DVI port is definitely digital only, so it is using an active converter. Idk maybe they have ones that pull power from the dvi port too

Jupstar ✪

Flat earther Round earther random weird atmosphere earther ✅

im more like a abs(dot(LightDir, Normal)) guy

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Learath2

That DVI port is definitely digital only, so it is using an active converter. Idk maybe they have ones that pull power from the dvi port too

well as the converter works it definitely does pull power from it

Teero

im more like a abs(dot(LightDir, Normal)) guy

what the xD is that saturn?

thats testplanet number 17

Where is namek?

Teero

im more like a abs(dot(LightDir, Normal)) guy

literally me

научите 1 тайл проходить

.STD !шастик?

научите 1 тайл проходить

это не ког сервер

Teero

im more like a abs(dot(LightDir, Normal)) guy

you scare me, when 4D teeworlds?

meloƞ

you scare me, when 4D teeworlds?

6DDDNet soon

but its 3 d

19:11

or 8

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20:43

3rd day of learning russian, finished 1st topic

brownbear

20:44

soon, you'll be able to swear at your russian teammates if they'll do something awesome

oxyzo

soon, you'll be able to swear at your russian teammates if they'll do something awesome

1 cs:go matchmaking match & you can do it

20:45

trust

Mirfay

3rd day of learning russian, finished 1st topic

не лезь, оно тебя сожрет

Mirfay

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мы с тобой все равно разговаривать не будем

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hi melon

RapThis

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he basically said he's learning words like "hello" and "my name is" and people hit them with that "tell me who your ancestors were in chronological order" (edited)

meloƞ

he basically said he's learning words like "hello" and "my name is" and people hit them with that "tell me who your ancestors were in chronological order" (edited)

"explain the entirety of quantum mechanics in russian"

greenthing

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@xteriche

21:42

you're not him sorry

sorry

?

21:52

check ping xd

looks like regular gameplay without antiping

21:52

kekw

it is with antiping

Cammodude

"explain the entirety of quantum mechanics in russian"

My breakpoint would be knowledge of physics

meloƞ

you're not him sorry

sorry

can you do it on chinese server?

risu

greenthing

that is one juicy piece

Learath2

that is one juicy piece

It's really nice but my standards are kinda insane for Furina specifically so still looking for improvement :P

22:19

There was a time I was in the top 10 global for 190% ER vape Furina you see

22:20

now preparing for a MH build for her and there's no way I'm going to get such unreal luck again

This is my best glad piece I think

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My current build has 3/5 pieces with no missed lines, my best build is like 3400% RV

22:25

but it's like low CV so it's not as insane as the RV would suggest

Learath2

This is my best glad piece I think

Did I show you my Electro goblet?

22:26

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I don't think I have any insane pieces :/

22:28

years of grinding away

I'll be hopping on the optimizer soon again, haven't touched it in a while because importing artifacts is kind of a pain

https://artiscan.ninjabay.org here is what I use

im japaning

Learath2

https://artiscan.ninjabay.org here is what I use

yeah I use it too, but for me with real time capture it takes like a second per piece and I didn't get recorded video to work for some reason

22:36

it doesn't take that long but feels really tedious

well you only need to scan new things

whatever game this is looks lame af

Learath2

well you only need to scan new things

Then I'd have to open the scanner every time I level a few artifacts, and at that point I might as well import them manually

22:39

because I don't remember which artifacts I got most recently

22:41

I have had kind of funny experiences going through my artifacts more recently (gearing chars for IT and such) Every once in a while I'll come upon a piece that's just really nice and be surprised because I didn't remember it existed

22:42

I'm a big RV enjoyer, rarely go for full CV focused builds (and I guess you'd understand that mindset if you use optimizer)

risu

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might be the best I have for now

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Learath2

might be the best I have for now

shmexy

Is that genshin or blue archive

risu

I'm a big RV enjoyer, rarely go for full CV focused builds (and I guess you'd understand that mindset if you use optimizer)

I'm a big I'll play whatever character is the cutest

*>Maciek<*

Is that genshin or blue archive

Genshin, I'm not touching that pedo bait

23:00

actually tried it because the soundtrack got really popular, quit immediately

I've been playing a very outdated yanfei xq yelan sucrose team and a mono cryo with ayaya shenhe diona kazuha

I see aight thanks risu

I should build my nahida for a more modern team

Learath2

I've been playing a very outdated yanfei xq yelan sucrose team and a mono cryo with ayaya shenhe diona kazuha

ooh, such classic teams

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23:03

still japaning

risu

ooh, such classic teams

the first team used to be yanfei xq bennet sucrose, then the dps was just not enough for newer content

TsPiggy

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Crazy airplane picture

Internet on board?!

Overlord

Internet on board?!

they landed recently i guess

23:40

or well, maybe they are starting

23:40

because it looks like the cabin crew is closing the storage

23:41

and the white bold guy on the right hand side is not interested at all to go out as fast as possible

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