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Between 2025-01-30 00:00 and 2025-01-31 00:00
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bau 2025-01-30 03:55
how to spawn a bot
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 04:19
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Pioooooo
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9614 Replace zero constants with nullptr
Skipping src/engine/client/backend.

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  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https:/...
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 04:35
https://repebble.com/
We're bringing Pebble back!
Eight years later, you still can't beat a Pebble
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 05:30
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[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit
2a6bc1d M Redline Katana - ddnet-maps
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Koll Potato 2025-01-30 07:14
if it works - dont touch it
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kek
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Hecta 2025-01-30 07:44
I'm trying my luck on making an automapper handler in Scratch/TurboWarp. As an artist, my main goal is to have a sleek, easy to use and quick to learn way to visualize and edit automappers. It's going to be a long process, but I think becoming this passionate about automappers would really help people realize how much potential this has!
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07:45
Also doing this so that in the future it would help other programmers port a system like this into their own DDNet build!
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 08:13
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morning peeppetes
08:13
@risu is this you
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 08:36
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
4963188 Replace zero constants with nullptr - Pioooooo 62ae0f9 Merge pull request #9614 from Pioooooo/refactor-nullptr - edg-l
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9614 Replace zero constants with nullptr
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chillerdragon BOT 2025-01-30 08:38
Press escape while in game. At the top menu click „connect dummy“
Replying to @bau how to spawn a bot
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Koll Potato 2025-01-30 08:56
feelsbadman
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 10:34
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9584 Add kick all rcon command
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #7822 Reload command chains on map reload
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #7821 Console()->Chain(..) does not work in gamecontrollers
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meloƞ 2025-01-30 10:39
pepefuckyou god damn it i really wanted kick all
10:39
good morming btw
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 10:41
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9615 pThis or pSelf
The current code base uses two variable names for callback contexts. Can we pick one, add it to CONTRIBUTING.md and stick to it?
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meloƞ
pepefuckyou god damn it i really wanted kick all
Learath2 2025-01-30 10:43
Not like it'd ever be useful in an official server (unless you are a big abuse enjoyer)
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meloƞ 2025-01-30 10:45
i was mostly interested in m_IsAll rather than the feature itself, seemed like an easier way of handling this issue: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9278#issuecomment-2558089141
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Learath2 2025-01-30 10:55
Hm, I don't even know what all would do in that case. tele all me makes sense tele me all not so much tele all all huh? (edited)
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 11:10
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chillerdragon: is chillerbot for general use?
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 11:31
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9616 Log redirected players drop
See commit messages for details. !image !image

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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 12:51
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Apple-CPU-SLAP-FLOP-Attacks
Apple CPUs Affected By New SLAP & FLOP Side-Channel Attacks
Apple is the latest CPU vendor being affected by side-channel attacks
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Ryozuki
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Apple-CPU-SLAP-FLOP-Attacks
TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:08
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meltdown for everyone
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Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 13:09
I wonder if we ever get hardware fixes for all these 3000000 security problems we have now xd
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meloƞ 2025-01-30 13:19
Aware i should stop being such a keyboard warrior sometimes
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Assa 2025-01-30 13:22
side channel attacks are so nasty and hard to prevent
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meloƞ
Aware i should stop being such a keyboard warrior sometimes
TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:29
omw to spam the PR you did for me
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meloƞ 2025-01-30 13:29
good thing i just setup email filters kekw
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Ryozuki
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Apple-CPU-SLAP-FLOP-Attacks
Avolicious 2025-01-30 13:31
Tzzz, WebKit (Safari's browsing engine). No more to say
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:31
<ChillerDragon> @TsPiggy wdym by general use?
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Avolicious 2025-01-30 13:31
Safari is on the same level as Internet Explorer / Microsoft Edge is
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always 2025-01-30 13:31
hello
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Avolicious
Safari is on the same level as Internet Explorer / Microsoft Edge is
always 2025-01-30 13:32
safari is so private
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:32
chillerdragon: idk, does it have a interface? is it designed for people to use as a client?
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always 2025-01-30 13:32
one of the best browsers for privacy
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:32
someone made a fork as a custom.client
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:32
<ChillerDragon> interface as in gui?
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always
safari is so private
Avolicious 2025-01-30 13:32
Safari is crap
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:32
i thought it was a cmd bot
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Avolicious 2025-01-30 13:32
Its like Edge
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:32
<ChillerDragon> what fork?
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Avolicious
Safari is crap
always 2025-01-30 13:32
not for privacy
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:32
but they are saying it is a client
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with gameplay features
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Avolicious 2025-01-30 13:33
Firefox is pretty decent, but it annoys me that they introduce this crap like Mozilla VPN or whatsoever
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:33
chillerdragon: some random chinese
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:33
<ChillerDragon> is it public?
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:33
share a skin stealer in the chn group
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it uses chillerbot-ux.exe as the binary name
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i didnt download it and test
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but it seems like they shared it as a normal client with graphics
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:34
<ChillerDragon> @TsPiggy i use it as my daily driver and i do depend on those features for gaming but the main target audience is my self. So I do not mind having to edit text files for some features to work. But yes there are some casual non technical players in the user base of the 5 players who installed the client xd
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:35
oh so it is a client
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nvm then
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:35
<ChillerDragon> i am happy when people use it but there is only so much energy i spend on making it a mainstream client
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:35
i thought someone added graphic back
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bcs i thought you made that a automation bot
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:35
<ChillerDragon> but i have to admit that when cactus client dropped with the exact same features and became super popular i got a bit upset :c
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<ChillerDragon> there is chillerbot-ux and it can be compiled with a cmake flag to get term-ux which is a linux only curses client
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:36
i guess i never knew what chillerbot actually is. i always thought it was a cmd bot for automations
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:36
<ChillerDragon> chillerbot-ux is super close to ddnet so they can also just compile it like ddnet with -DHEADLESS_CLIENT=ON and drop the graphics
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<ChillerDragon> well "chillerbot" by it self is nothing
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:37
no i mean i thought if was like auto chat bot and auto rcon and stuff.
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cuz, you know. it is called a bot
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:37
<ChillerDragon> there is chillerbot-ux which is my ddnet fork whith a few additons which also includes term-ux
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:37
nouis nouis
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:37
<ChillerDragon> the name "bot" is because i am edgy
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:38
ye then it is np then
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:38
<ChillerDragon> there is a few chillerbot clients such as chillerbot-ng that do not have any graphics
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:38
then i guess all i need to tell you is that chinese guy forked your client closesourcedly
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:38
<ChillerDragon> sus
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:38
almost all chinese forks are close sourced
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:38
<ChillerDragon> any chillerbot that has a "z" in its name is an illegal cheat client
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:39
they dont like sharing
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:39
<ChillerDragon> such as chillerbot-zz and chillerbot-zx
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:39
i dont think that matters nor you should state them here
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:39
<ChillerDragon> oh yea rule 7
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<ChillerDragon> i just wanted to be transparent because you asked about "bot"
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:40
just making sure the ux one is somewhat safe so i dont need to do anything as a chn community manager
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:40
<ChillerDragon> the z series is not publicly distributed
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:40
i get that
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:40
<ChillerDragon> ux tries to be fully compliant
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:40
let stop talk about bots lol
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already got my answers, thx coldbird
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:41
<ChillerDragon> it has chat automation, skin stealer and spike tracers as its most sus features
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:41
oh then i think it is straight up your client
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:41
<ChillerDragon> https://chillerbot.github.io/img/features/spike_tracer.png
Embedded image
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:41
not even a fork then
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 13:41
<ChillerDragon> imagine playing silex maps without spike tracer
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TsPiggy
not even a fork then
Джейсон 2025-01-30 13:56
Can you help me
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TsPiggy 2025-01-30 13:56
you should #✉-create-a-ticket if you have anything that needs a moderator
13:57
if you already did, then you should wait.
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Assa 2025-01-30 13:57
I just read spice tracer and thought like you watched too much Dune sh
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zhn 2025-01-30 14:22
ChillerDragon: can you please pull up wireshark and send me valid succeed rcon auth and failed one?
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 14:30
epyc
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@Jupstar ✪ my sister cant buy it cuz its out of stock already
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Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 14:35
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Why does she even want the FE?
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 14:38
why not
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but its non existent
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a suposed leak
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a suposed leak
Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 14:40
let's face it, as long as amd cannot compete, it's good for nvidia to keep the stock low. they can release a new gen and increase the price exactly by the performance increase xdd
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the 4090 did not loose any value at all, so 5090 can be super expensive
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 14:41
boo
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i wanted my 4090 xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 14:41
well soon the non-FE come out
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 14:46
wen
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Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 14:47
I dunno, you the news guy 😬
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 14:51
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9617 Fix textrender error msg
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KebsCS
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9618 Projectiles disappear with antiping enabled
After a few seconds, all player projectiles become invisible First bad commit: 6229802b286fc90cf82067d59c7d204e013ffc7d (#8375) @JSaurusRex https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/639826a9-5702-4419-9d02-f05f9e2abac4
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9619 Missing % in datafile logger
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ChillerDragon
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9620 Use %ld for sizeof() in map layer too big error
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Ryozuki
@risu is this you
risu 2025-01-30 15:03
Sometimes
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 15:28
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
76ba3a3 Do not rename redirected players to (connecting) - ChillerDragon 2632b5c Print to chat and log when a redirected player drops - ChillerDragon baa1221 Merge pull request #9616 from ChillerDragon/pr_keep_redirected_name - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9616 Log redirected players drop
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
7a6874b Fix textrender error msg - ChillerDragon d40a141 Merge pull request #9617 from ChillerDragon/pr_textrndrer - Robyt3
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9617 Fix textrender error msg
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
a60b104 Missing % in datafile logger - ChillerDragon 6ee6185 Merge pull request #9619 from ChillerDragon/pr_datafilelog - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9619 Missing % in datafile logger
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 15:39
<ChillerDragon> so much work why dont u do it ur self @zhn
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 15:43
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9620 Use %ld for sizeof() in map layer too big error
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
17d2ca5 Use %ld for sizeof() in map layer too big error - ChillerDragon a8ae59a Merge pull request #9620 from ChillerDragon/pr_sizeofld - def-
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<ChillerDragon> so much work why dont u do it ur self @zhn
zhn 2025-01-30 16:09
i thought u had samples
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anyway i figured it out anyway
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thanks
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anyway anyway xd
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 16:12
i got generics in my work lang
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Ryozuki
i got generics in my work lang
meloƞ 2025-01-30 16:12
😳
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 16:12
pub fn hello_generics<T>(x: T) -> T { return x; } pub fn main() -> i32 { let value: i32 = hello_generics::<i32>(4); return value; }
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it needs u to specify it at call site cuz no inference yet tho
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but dope
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man at some point i got a bit stressed as if i couldnt do it
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 16:15
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9621 Fix Issue 9618 and improve responsiveness for projectiles to pre pr 8375 levels
This issue: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9618 Was caused by this pr: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8375 This specifically happens when your client predicts ahead very little, it wouldn't meet the requirements for copying over the world, thus everything would either be frozen when your prediction becomes small enough or you just wouldn't see anything besides your own player to begin with. I fixed that and then reread my original pr and realized that it caused you to see a...
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 16:15
but i got it done
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@JSaurusRex did u test it ingame?
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JSaurusRex 2025-01-30 16:17
yeah
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hopefully i caught everything this time
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 16:21
i dont use antiping so i didnt notice xd
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kebs 2025-01-30 16:23
@JSaurusRex btw you can type "fixes #number" or "closes #number" so itll auto close the issue when merged
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JSaurusRex 2025-01-30 16:24
in the description / first comment?
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or the title
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wait nvm i see it
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kebs 2025-01-30 16:25
pr description
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JSaurusRex 2025-01-30 16:25
aight will do ( '-')vb
brownbear 3
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Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 16:26
Sry to inform you I already did it after ryo pressed merge
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 16:55
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
73f1b62 Fix Issue 9618 and improve reponsiveness for projectiles to pre partial antiping being added - JSaurusRex 9215cb0 Merge pull request #9621 from JSaurusRex/ddnetAntipingPercentFix - edg-l
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9621 Fix Issue 9618 and improve responsiveness for projectiles to pre pr 8375 levels
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9618 Projectiles disappear with antiping enabled
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Ryozuki
morning peeppetes
Ewan 2025-01-30 18:35
gm
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Ryozuki
man at some point i got a bit stressed as if i couldnt do it
Ewan 2025-01-30 18:36
nice job
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how are u gonna handle type inference?
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i think this was talked about already but idk whose lang xD
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chillerdragon BOT 2025-01-30 19:04
I have a private repo with pcaps. They include sensitive passwords and my MAC address and so on. And not every case such as wrong password is covered. iirc should be the same as correct password just a different string in the rcon line message
Replying to @zhn i thought u had samples
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Ewan 2025-01-30 19:10
chiller hru
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chillerdragon BOT 2025-01-30 19:18
g&u?
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Ewan 2025-01-30 19:18
alright
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breathing and such
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chillerdragon BOT 2025-01-30 19:18
mood
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Jupstar ✪
I wonder if we ever get hardware fixes for all these 3000000 security problems we have now xd
Chairn 2025-01-30 19:30
yeah, it's called not running after performance. Speculative execution, branch prediction, caches, etc. are all opening vast possibilities for side channel attacks
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yeah, it's called not running after performance. Speculative execution, branch prediction, caches, etc. are all opening vast possibilities for side channel attacks
Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 19:36
i mean the fixes destroy all performance gains
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so smth that is fast and still safe
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Chairn 2025-01-30 19:37
not possible because fast means executing things that might be wrong (speculative execution, branch prediction, load predictor, etc.)
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even without those, pipeline stalls will also leak data
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and caches as well, so either you remove all those and have huge performance loss, or you have leaks
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Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 19:48
some day
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Ryozuki
pub fn hello_generics<T>(x: T) -> T { return x; } pub fn main() -> i32 { let value: i32 = hello_generics::<i32>(4); return value; }
MilkeeyCat 2025-01-30 20:13
does your lang have global variables?
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 20:14
the grammar is there but i forgot if they work
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Ewan 2025-01-30 20:36
xd
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 20:56
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[ddnet-rs:main] 2 new commits
aba0014 Set default stage from spectator joining a side to stage 0. - Jupeyy 3e5c97c Merge pull request #94 from Jupeyy/pr_fix_set_side_from_spectator - Jupeyy
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ws-client BOT 2025-01-30 21:04
<ChillerDragon> Replace sdl2 with extra/sdl2-compat? [Y/n]
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<ChillerDragon> time to upgrade sdl2 is officially deprecated by arch linux
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 21:08
@Jupstar ✪ whats our stopper for sdl3
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Robyt3 2025-01-30 21:14
Haven't been motivated/not enough time to potentially break everything related to input handling and windowing yet
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SDL3 has some useful features though, so we should eventually upgrade
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https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/releases/tag/release-3.2.0
Release 3.2.0 · libsdl-org/SDL
Announcing the SDL 3 official release! SDL 3.0 is finally here! We have many many people to thank on the road to get here, but I'd like to call out special thanks to: @slouken and @icculus, le...
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@Jupstar ✪ whats our stopper for sdl3
Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 21:20
go and implement 😬
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 21:20
ok tomorrow
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Robyt3
Haven't been motivated/not enough time to potentially break everything related to input handling and windowing yet
zhn 2025-01-30 21:27
wasn't there some feature-stopper that brake something for macos?
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broke*
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Robyt3 2025-01-30 21:30
Nobody tried upgrading to SDL3 AFAIK
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 21:42
ok ill do it
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deploy friday
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deploy sdl3
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i can only assure the quality of linux builds i take no responsabilituy for windows users
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deen_star
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 21:44
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9622 Upgrade to SDL3
I'll look into it. https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/releases/tag/release-3.2.0
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go and implement 😬
Chairn 2025-01-30 21:45
you were wrong 😛 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6320#issuecomment-1412497196
gen_lib.sh there is a problem · Issue #6320 · ddnet/ddnet
When cloning/compiling the SDL This script outputs these But that's what is actually compiled Not SDL2, but SDL3
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meloƞ 2025-01-30 21:45
monkalaugh
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and people blame ddnet's backwards compat
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 21:46
xd
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https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/CategoryProperties
SDL3/CategoryProperties
The Simple Directmedia Layer Wiki
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https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/CategoryCamera
SDL3/CategoryCamera
The Simple Directmedia Layer Wiki
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webcam ddnet
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https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/CategoryPen
SDL3/CategoryPen
The Simple Directmedia Layer Wiki
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ddnet with a pen
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monkalaugh
Chairn 2025-01-30 21:47
link ?
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Ryozuki
https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/CategoryPen
meloƞ 2025-01-30 21:47
i thought we're supporting absolute positioning already
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 21:47
https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL3/BestKeyboardPractices
SDL3/BestKeyboardPractices
The Simple Directmedia Layer Wiki
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Chairn
link ?
meloƞ 2025-01-30 21:47
https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/pull/11900
Add support for including SDL3 headers in older toolchains by madeb...
With these patches, I can successfully use the SDL3 headers with MSVC 6 (from 1998). Description Existing Issue(s)
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 21:48
i mean its c not cpp
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meloƞ
monkalaugh
Ewan 2025-01-30 21:49
i still have msvc 6 in box lol
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came with a poster
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meloƞ 2025-01-30 21:49
monkalaugh
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Ewan 2025-01-30 21:49
microsoft foundation classes reference
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if you know you know
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Chairn 2025-01-30 21:53
i don't get why they need backward compat for 25+ years old compilers 😄
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Ewan 2025-01-30 21:54
msvc 6 is the last supported compiler version for win98
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well
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9x
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not including mingw
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back compat for a project like SDL especially is almost a requirement
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Chairn
i don't get why they need backward compat for 25+ years old compilers 😄
meloƞ 2025-01-30 21:55
the check if a system has longlong is what scares me more i think you would need to use something pre c99 for that
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which, again - is 25+ years old kekw
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Ewan 2025-01-30 21:56
well the c standard is not the same as the compiler version
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i know people that love c99 and use it every day
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vc6 is for when you need to post on twitter that your thing still works on windows 9x, btw (edited)
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or
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bluesky
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Ewan
i know people that love c99 and use it every day
Ewan 2025-01-30 21:58
oh you're talking about ANSI C
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either way
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https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope/issues/1320 feelsbadman
[NVIDIA] 555 Driver Status · Issue #1320 · ValveSoftware/gamescope
Status: Fully broken Observed Behavior: Crashes instantly Expected behavior: launch Log messages: vulkan: selecting physical device 'NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060': queue family 2 (general queue ...
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i keep not buying an amd gpu
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i need to buy an amd gpu
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GitHub BOT 2025-01-30 22:09
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9623 Should i add show fps and ping as a button
I have played this game for a really long time and the thing i think this game needs is an show ping and fps button in settings. Now you can do it in f1 but many new players that maybe have a bad pc or internet want to see how much they have. Why not making it easier for them to enable it. F1 is very hard for new players to use and you usually need to ask around or just figure the game havent an option for that. Does someone agree? :)
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 22:23
great! the migration guide is only 1867 lines!
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maybe its a bit early, gentoo doesnt have sdl3 yet
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Ewan 2025-01-30 22:28
lol rip
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install nix, seriously. sounds stupid but it’s the best way to have consistent versioning for dev shit
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u don’t have to use it for ur system
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trying to use the DRM backend for gamescope
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 22:31
@TsPiggy looks like sdl3 allows rendering ime urself https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/blob/main/test/testime.c
SDL/test/testime.c at main · libsdl-org/SDL
Simple Directmedia Layer. Contribute to libsdl-org/SDL development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Ewan
install nix, seriously. sounds stupid but it’s the best way to have consistent versioning for dev shit
Ryozuki 2025-01-30 22:31
lol no gentoo best
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Ewan 2025-01-30 22:31
no, nix
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 22:31
tbh there is sdl3, its just on a user repo
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Ewan 2025-01-30 22:31
the package manager
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 22:31
i dont rly like it
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Ewan 2025-01-30 22:32
fine
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but they have the packages…
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whether you’re on gentoo or macos or nixos
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they’re on the leaderboard
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Ryozuki
@TsPiggy looks like sdl3 allows rendering ime urself https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/blob/main/test/testime.c
TsPiggy 2025-01-30 22:33
we already render ime ourselves with sdl2 in ddnet
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Ryozuki 2025-01-30 22:34
Mouse events use floating point values for mouse coordinates and relative motion values. You can get sub-pixel motion depending on the platform and display scaling.
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is this new?
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Ewan 2025-01-30 22:34
Yes
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I mean, i think (edited)
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chillerdragon BOT 2025-01-30 22:47
We should use the new fancy sdl3 callbacks instead of the sdl main. Apparently it’s more portable for stuff like iOS and so on.
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I would say we should wait for SDL3 until sdl3-dev is in Debian stable. Otherwise compiling can get annoying. But we can already start to implement it and see if there are any blockers.
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Jupstar ✪ 2025-01-30 23:00
The Clipboard API sounds interesting. If we can listen to print key on windows, we could add screenshot support😂
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Sad to say it tho
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2025 and windows didn't find a solution
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Nagi01 {LAN} 2025-01-30 23:11
@ChillerDragon bro please give me mod on your solofng save server, there are all time stupid russian kids with cheats
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Jupstar ✪
The Clipboard API sounds interesting. If we can listen to print key on windows, we could add screenshot support😂
Ewan 2025-01-30 23:14
You should not override print screen in principle
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It’s a key with clearly defined behavior, users don’t want screenshots duplicated in their ddnet folder every time they press print screen or any derivative (edited)
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Plus, ingame screenshot mechanism isn’t needed imo
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Steam and basically every OS already implement it
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Are you talking about the fullscreen thing?
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The Clipboard API sounds interesting. If we can listen to print key on windows, we could add screenshot support😂
Chairn 2025-01-30 23:17
uh ? always worked for me
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louis 2025-01-30 23:19
doesnt work on some fullsxreen modes for me
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chillerdragon BOT 2025-01-30 23:23
Most of them are not very dangerous even with cheats I could get them killed easily. But yes some kind of anti bot system is on my todo. What is your in game name?
Replying to @Nagi01 {LAN} ChillerDragon bro please give me mod on your solofng save server, there …
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zhn 2025-01-30 23:24
its Nagi01
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chillerdragon BOT 2025-01-30 23:24
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The hooker
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Yes nagi find me in game tomorrow and I will whisper you some rcon :)
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Ewan
Plus, ingame screenshot mechanism isn’t needed imo
zhn 2025-01-30 23:25
needed. (edited)
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Ewan
Steam and basically every OS already implement it
Tater 2025-01-30 23:26
steam screenshots are terrible quality
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OS screenshot does not work correctly in fullscreen
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chillerdragon
Most of them are not very dangerous even with cheats I could get them killed easily. But yes some kind of anti bot system is on my todo. What is your in game name?
Nagi01 {LAN} 2025-01-30 23:32
my in-game name is Nagi01 {LAN}
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chillerdragon
Yes nagi find me in game tomorrow and I will whisper you some rcon :)
Nagi01 {LAN} 2025-01-30 23:36
see you tommorow 😄
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Tater
OS screenshot does not work correctly in fullscreen
Ewan 2025-01-30 23:43
No, Windows screenshot does not work correctly in fullscreen
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Tater 2025-01-30 23:43
I believe windows is an OS
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Ewan 2025-01-30 23:44
OS screenshot does not work correctly in fullscreen
what is someone supposed to take away from this except for the broader OS screenshot mechanism is broken
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it's not, it's a windows exclusive issue
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and i dont want to argue about semantics
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Tater 2025-01-30 23:45
so your suggested solution is to not use windows if you would like good screenshots?
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Ewan 2025-01-30 23:46
it was more a way of saying windows sucks
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and they are at fault for this bug
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Tater 2025-01-30 23:46
yes it only supports 99% of the playerbase, we should just ignore it
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I agree
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Tater
so your suggested solution is to not use windows if you would like good screenshots?
risu 2025-01-30 23:46
to not use windows if you would like good screenshots
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Tater
I agree
Ewan 2025-01-30 23:47
what are you reading exactly
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Ewan
it was more a way of saying windows sucks
Ewan 2025-01-30 23:47
does this sound like i agree with what you're saying (edited)
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Ewan
Plus, ingame screenshot mechanism isn’t needed imo
Tater 2025-01-30 23:48
ingame screenshot solution is not needed because we can ignore windows users
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Ewan 2025-01-30 23:48
as long as devs continue to accommodate windows bugs, it gives windows devs an excuse to not fix it
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and there really are other ways of screenshotting
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im not even necessarily opposed to the ingame screenshot thing having remembered how broken it is on windows, but it still shouldn't need to exist in principle
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Tater 2025-01-30 23:49
yeah I agree the microsoft devs will fix it
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Ewan 2025-01-30 23:49
well
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Tater 2025-01-30 23:49
so it's not needed as I said
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Ewan 2025-01-30 23:49
i thought you were being sarcastic
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for an open source project whose funding & administration is detached from almost all of their player base
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Tater 2025-01-30 23:50
no obviously I hate windows players they don't deserve good screenshots
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Ewan 2025-01-30 23:51
what a joke
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