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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9538 mastersrv: Add missing file for config

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssan...

00:24

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9539 mastersrv: Check compilation in CI

00:25

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9540 mastersrv: Add integration tests

Those should check that a server can register with a local masterserver.

someone changed the behavior of the cl_showhud_player_position/angle menus to no longer show tee info when you're spectating someone who's in spectator mode :-(

03:05

how am i supposed to line up the shotgun bug now

03:05

smh

morning goto enjoyers and others

gm

07:47

i wish i was kidding

pGet->WriteToFile(m_pChat->Storage(), m_aSaveFilePath, IStorage::TYPE_SAVE); this says it works but i dotn see the file nowhere

08:48

i hate life

08:50

oh i need to set this before i run the job xd

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

fcbda8e mastersrv: Add missing file for config - heinrich5991 99ef458 Merge pull request #9538 from heinrich5991/pr_ddnet_mastersrv_config_missing_file - def-

08:54

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9538 mastersrv: Add missing file for config

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MilkeeyCat

morning goto enjoyers and others

So nice of you to say morning to me specifically. Wow

[ddnet-rs:main] 2 new commits

0fc1a0b Some editor fixes to allow hosting & joining maps again. - Jupeyy e5e24be Merge pull request #64 from Jupeyy/pr_editor_join - Jupeyy

where is console commands file is located?

14:17

in game source

all over the place

Jupstar ✪

all over the place

where i can add new commands

14:18

i mean

simply search for ->Register( in the global source

14:18

anything beyond you gotta find out yourself ig xd

14:18

i doubt there is a tutorial

i think i found

14:20

no i didn't

@Jupstar ✪ do u think ppl use tclient just to be cool or they actually like it

14:26

i feel thee is so psycological thing

Ryozuki

@Jupstar ✪ do u think ppl use tclient just to be cool or they actually like it

hekl

you feel special by not using the norm

hell

14:26

help

14:27

please

no

14:27

gigachad

bruh

you ping me when im talking to someone else

14:27

thats annoying

14:27

and so im not helping now

Ryozuki

@Jupstar ✪ do u think ppl use tclient just to be cool or they actually like it

i dunno, it has some cool features. but i could imagine lot of ppl use other clients simply because their friend do so xd

i was playing wiht a friend

14:28

he uses tclient and it crashed xD

14:28

i use latest main commit and no crashes

14:28

gigachad

robyte the fixing machine

hey i fixed a segfault too

14:29

deen_star

14:29

im making the blacklist word feature

with a local and downloaded word list

14:30

(optional client side censoring)

14:30

i wonder how many kids play

brownbear

and i did nothing today

14:30

good time

deen_star

14:30

i love this emote

14:30

deen_star

deen_star

deen_star

Ryozuki

i love this emote

i like all emojis that include a star

poggers2

wiki

Ryozuki

and so im not helping now

Cmoon, are you really not going to help skibidisigma?

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@Skibidisigma what are u trying to add

louis

@Skibidisigma what are u trying to add

commands in F1

what command

louis

what command

which i can run in local console

i mean what does the command do

louis

i mean what does the command do

it will do what i say in the code

kek

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Skibidisigma

it will do what i say in the code

stepfunnsus

amogus

meloƞ

stepfunnsus

what

Skibidisigma

which i can run in local console

It's very easy to learn how to write some, there are plenty of examples in the client code that you can mimic

bro

15:01

i waited 30 mins wsl to install

15:01

and i didn't press run install

skill issue

[ddnet-rs:main] 2 new commits

732a238 Allow to specify a path for the server provided assets. - Jupeyy f7ba116 Merge pull request #66 from Jupeyy/pr_server_provided_assets - Jupeyy

@Jupstar ✪ gawd dayum kek

kek

- where was the local file again?

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15:47

ah wait i think i cna just rebind it to mouse_middle

yeah i renamed it

[ddnet-rs:main] 3 new commits

93cd17d Clipping is absolute. - Jupeyy a077667 Add better network limits for editor. - Jupeyy 52a4948 Merge pull request #65 from Jupeyy/pr_editor_fixes - Jupeyy

meloƞ

@Jupstar ✪ gawd dayum kek

kek

- where was the local file again?

if you self compile better use the above commits too

will do

kek

i might need to pr some windows fixes

15:50

lets see

Do you compile with mingw?

ye

15:51

msvc is a bully

good, the CI also uses mingw

15:51

i couldn't get some stuff to work with msvc yet

is the save_path (e.g %appdata%/DDNet-Rs-Alpha/config) supposed to have /map/maps or is that just the wrong path to look in for ?

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meloƞ

is the save_path (e.g %appdata%/DDNet-Rs-Alpha/config) supposed to have /map/maps or is that just the wrong path to look in for ?

i think it simply gets created once u save a map xd

15:57

but we need a list

cat_woah

kek

for all things

15:57

why cant we create a thread in mapping xd

15:58

use ur premium powers

can't :c

15:58

issue tracker on github it is

what

meloƞ

issue tracker on github it is

guess so

I don't have options to build client/server

16:00

it said i have to install the rust

16:01

why should i download games

16:01

if i need ddnet

read dis if you're on windows: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet?tab=readme-ov-file#building-on-windows-with-the-visual-studio-ide and dis for linux: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet?tab=readme-ov-file#dependencies-on-linux--macos

16:03

also if you're on windows - make sure to clone with --recursive if you already cloned without, do git submodule update --init --recursive (edited)

Skibidisigma

why should i download games

16:04

didnt u know ddnet is based on the game rust

Jupstar ✪

didnt u know ddnet is based on the game rust

oh

Jupstar ✪

didnt u know ddnet is based on the game rust

This is not very skibidi of you

no but just read the resources melon gave

meloƞ

also if you're on windows - make sure to clone with --recursive if you already cloned without, do git submodule update --init --recursive (edited)

i cloned with visual studio

nothing else u can do

Reading is not very sigma either grandpa. Give the compile command rn boomer

i reworked the entire building on windows section of the readme it better be working cat_sad

cat_sad

Learath2

Reading is not very sigma either grandpa. Give the compile command rn boomer

nah man your rizz is so 2022, -20 aura

sadge

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isn't he using wsl?

bro

16:08

wtf

16:08

i need 200gb of storage

16:08

to download components from visual studio installer

it's actually only ~10gb

meloƞ

it's actually only ~10gb

nah

16:09

i pressed individual components section

pepeW

dont.

an selected all

DONT.

and

meloƞ

DONT.

what?

are u using wsl or visual studio

16:09

i don't think u need both

louis

are u using wsl or visual studio

vs

oh ok

16:10

well read the github readme for detailed instructions

16:10

i think u just need python c++ and cmake

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16:10

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louis

i think u just need python c++ and cmake

bro why do i need python for c++ app

16:11

it said i need python to compile ddnet

please refer to the language percentage composition of the source code on github, it clearly has python

louis

please refer to the language percentage composition of the source code on github, it clearly has python

remove python

i took so much time reworking that readme too NOOOO

NOOOO

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2.8% of python

Rewrite in Zig!

rewrite in lisp

risu

Rewrite in Zig!

That is what i expect from @Learath2 tbh

i think brainfuck is the best programming language

16:14

tbg

16:14

tbh

16:15

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16:15

do i need generate this

Skibidisigma

i think brainfuck is the best programming language

It's not so bad but the annoying part is that to compile it you still need to detect common algorithms like addition and multiplication (and less common algorithms like division) and translate those into the relevant machine instructions

16:16

so you might as well have multiplication and addition in the language itself and suddenly you've totally lost the spirit of bf

OHH

16:16

I CAN COMPILE DDNET NOW

16:16

i installed python

that is something to uninstall

what kind of goober doesn't have like at least a few versions of Python on their system?

risu

what kind of goober doesn't have like at least a few versions of Python on their system?

i had python before

16:17

but i deleted windows by mistake

16:17

and the half of system

16:18

that's why I haven't had time to download python for the new windows yet

16:20

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16:20

it said build failed before

16:20

what should i do

16:22

it said this before

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absolute Windows moment... using Visual Studio even, absolutely deranged

nvm it was error in my code

16:24

no

16:24

it not my error

Your first mistake was trying to use VS

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just follow the instructions on github, it should work fine

16:25

if the build failed then look at the console to see the errors

i gotta finish my msys2 guide

16:26

i was writing the whole thing in stackedit and one day my cache for that site was cleared and i lost it lmfao

Jupstar ✪

That is what i expect from @Learath2 tbh

I'm only a medium zig fan. Not sold yet

i always thought zig was cool but you intrinsically give up potential for many optimizations by transpiling to c as weird as it sounds

16:28

thoughts on vlang

risu

Your first mistake was trying to use VS

i love vs

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Ewan

i always thought zig was cool but you intrinsically give up potential for many optimizations by transpiling to c as weird as it sounds

That's nim, zig emits llvm ir directly

is this new? or was i just misinformed (edited)

Hm I can't think of a time when zig wasn't emiting llvm ir in some way

yeah i guess that’s me

16:38

justatest

risu

Your first mistake was trying to use VS

Vs isnt the problem

kebs

Vs isnt the problem

but it is a problem

U just press 1 button on cloned ddnet and it works straight away

not inherently but they do change shit a lot and it is a lot more button clicking and waiting on shit to install

for all humankind

If that causes trouble idk what these people gonna do with code

actually true as well

16:47

but if that’s the topic we may as well start with the fact that their name is skibidisigma

@Jupstar ✪ what do I have to write in the ddnet rendering code (players.cpp) to get the current tick (or interpolated tick) of the demo that is playing

16:53

I'm trying to debug my muzzle flash rendering, but its so difficult without that

I always wonder what the people that have trouble following the most basic instructions will do with the code. But I don't ask it because I'm not allowed to judge with a green name

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The visual studio noobfilter

Patiga

@Jupstar ✪ what do I have to write in the ddnet rendering code (players.cpp) to get the current tick (or interpolated tick) of the demo that is playing

Idk if this is available there directly. You might need to reach into the demo code

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Learath2

I always wonder what the people that have trouble following the most basic instructions will do with the code. But I don't ask it because I'm not allowed to judge with a green name

lmfao

16:56

yeah i kinda don’t want to help people in this chat anymore

16:56

it’s obviously mostly botters coming in here for questions

16:56

i wanna be a good samaritan or whatever but

Patiga

@Jupstar ✪ what do I have to write in the ddnet rendering code (players.cpp) to get the current tick (or interpolated tick) of the demo that is playing

I think it gets that from the client

ive had ppl follow up in dm being like can u help with my bot?

But believe it or not, I never touched that code either xD

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no dude

16:57

xdd

We should record an unregistered hypercam video building ddnet

3

Learath2

We should record an unregistered hypercam video building ddnet

hi gy [backspace] uys today i will sj [backspace] how you how to compile ddnet. step one is to go to go to nixos.org and

gentoo

17:04

download rust

17:04

then rewrite ddnet in rust

17:04

to compile it with just cargo

17:04

deen_star

joke doesnt hit the same anymore thanks ryozuki

kekw

17:15

i'm live testing out jupsti's dual mapping editor with catseye right now btw!

17:15

works like a charm and is really sick

rust powered

meloƞ

i'm live testing out jupsti's dual mapping editor with catseye right now btw!

wait wdym dual mapping editor

17:17

you can edit 2 maps at once?

Hecta

joke doesnt hit the same anymore thanks ryozuki

im glad u overcame it

Hecta

you can edit 2 maps at once?

2 people in client changing the map at the same time!

17:24

it's awesome!

meloƞ

it's awesome!

Is it actually useful though would be my question.

absolutely

17:44

it not only speeds up the process but is a lot of fun

I would be very curious to see if you'd use it long term ever

meloƞ

2 people in client changing the map at the same time!

omfg

me and cats are currently making an actual playable map with it :3

i get home in an hour

https://www.twitch.tv/blaizephyr FyI (no promotion)

blaizephyr - Twitch

some ddnet-rs action!

Learath2

I would be very curious to see if you'd use it long term ever

how many mappers even map on one map

collaborative map editor?

duude i so wanna try this with someone

18:03

waiting for my bus home rn

Ewan

collaborative map editor?

YES

awesome

18:06

i love that idea

18:06

i did a lot of stuff for a collaborative music editor

18:06

that kind of workflow really is unmatched

I would like to make a game feelsbadman

feelsbadman

18:10

But I don't know how to make games feelsbadman

feelsbadman

rip

https://github.com/cessen/ropey

GitHub - cessen/ropey: A utf8 text rope for manipulating and editin...

A utf8 text rope for manipulating and editing large texts. - cessen/ropey

nice

MilkeeyCat

I would like to make a game feelsbadman

feelsbadman

rewrite ddnet in rust

18:30

totally worth it

ddnet/ddnet-rs

yes

seems to be a semi official endeavor now

18:30

it exists

18:30

is what i mean

18:31

i couldn’t get it building on my machine last i tried but i only gave it about an hour lol

18:31

@meloƞ have you had any luck building it on nixos? have u tried?

18:31

ddnet-rs

it doesnt work

18:35

because we're bound to use a mingw patch right now which breaks linking when sandboxxed (edited)

18:36

this one: ffmpeg-sys-next = { git = "https://github.com/Jupeyy/rust-ffmpeg-sys.git", branch = "pr_mingw_workaround" } if you change this to just use https://github.com/zmwangx/rust-ffmpeg-sys it should work i guess (edited)

lol wtf

18:36

that makes a lot of sense

18:37

tho i did not specify videorecorder flag or w/e and it still wasnt working

can you not simply build without ffmpeg for now?

Ewan

tho i did not specify videorecorder flag or w/e and it still wasnt working

oh

18:44

what is the error

IIRC it's just a shared lib error

18:45

something with pkg-config being an arse on the nix/store really - lots of issues with it

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i couldn’t get it to find the libraries probably bcs a lot of c libs from nixpkgs don’t come with .pc files, ig

c problem

yea

meloƞ

https://www.twitch.tv/blaizephyr FyI (no promotion)

aw did you stop mapping

shh not so loud my wife thinks i'm doing laundry rn.

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i gotta fix my twitch account… it’s been broken for like 3 years at this point, since i got my new phone and lost my 2fa

18:49

“New”

18:49

3 generations old at this point

Patiga

@Jupstar ✪ what do I have to write in the ddnet rendering code (players.cpp) to get the current tick (or interpolated tick) of the demo that is playing

Found a solution for your problem?

o shit theres a weapons datapack server now?

wat?

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Hecta

Click to see attachment 🖼️

AH it's simply the assets server, it hosts all assets (+skins)

ah

Koll Potato

rewrite ddnet in rust

I wanna write something in C :p

MilkeeyCat

I wanna write something in C :p

write ddnet physics in rust, please

or contribute to twgame

19:27

same thing

@Koll Potato c'mon u like it

yea i forked it and i have no idea what to do xD

add switch layer

19:27

or deep freeze

19:27

or /spec

i currently recover from the coding depression

19:28

because i dont think i can make anything harder than a todo app

r u 50 years old?

divide by 3

then you can still learn

Jupstar ✪

write ddnet physics in rust, please

I'm bad at mafs lol

lol

you look at the source -> you understand it -> you port it to rust

19:30

understanding is the hardest part

Koll Potato

divide by 3

so you are 16.6666666666666

yes

19:30

actually its pretty accurate

nice

im gonna be 17 in like half a year

19:30

oh no

19:30

so old

Koll Potato

because i dont think i can make anything harder than a todo app

shit’s hard

19:31

but literally all u need is perseverance

Koll Potato

so old

grandpa

there is no secret to being smart

Ewan

but literally all u need is perseverance

yea thats what i try to do now

19:31

fighting the borrow checker every day

yeah

I tried to do some things from the to do I set up today, saw I had to familiarize myself with egui and just quit, now I'm watching anime

19:32

greenthing

immediate mode GUIs for non-game use-cases feelsbadman

feelsbadman

19:33

try cxx-qt, KDAB is putting a shitton of work into it

19:33

it’s getting good

maybe he was doing something with ddnet-rs

19:33

afaik it uses egui

Koll Potato

maybe he was doing something with ddnet-rs

Yes

kek

Ewan

immediate mode GUIs for non-game use-cases feelsbadman

feelsbadman

and u might think this is nothing but think about laptop batteries and shit

noice

it’s just overkill

19:34

or underkill

Koll Potato

noice

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-rs/issues/67#issue-2790295628

editor meta-issue tracker · Issue #67 · ddnet/ddnet-rs

trivial issues: changing width/height of the physics layer while in a multi-mapping session crashes the drawing client. add every corresponding tileset to physic layers (tele, speedup) minor issues...

meloƞ

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-rs/issues/67#issue-2790295628

how is this an issue

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19:39

empty maps are not supported?

Not yet

kek

Koll Potato

empty maps are not supported?

too much weight, cant support them nouis

nouis

\

oh because it loads an existing map right

Koll Potato

oh because it loads an existing map right

Yeah, ctf1 is hardcoded atm

19:41

Maybe it's enough to just add an empty map and ship that really

19:41

The .twmap format is only 3kb after all. @Jupstar ✪

wdym

.twmap is a custom format?

the format is a fixed size?

19:42

i thought ddnet maps didn’t really have boundaries like that except as imposed by the server’s out of bounds stuff

19:42

size was arbitrary

why still no index

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github lazy

whenever i open ddnet-rs rust analyzer just goes kaputt

19:43

and takes 5gb of ram

meloƞ

The .twmap format is only 3kb after all. @Jupstar ✪

well as said the twmap format is really just the map data

waiting for some pod to free most likely so it can index the repo

without any assets

New format, questions towards Jupsti for that

19:43

owo

Jupstar ✪

well as said the twmap format is really just the map data

nice

Koll Potato

how is this an issue

i already fixed that

19:44

so pls don't fix xd

are you working on implementing connections to ddnet servers?

19:45

or is it not in the plans rn

Koll Potato

are you working on implementing connections to ddnet servers?

that is not planned at all tbh

19:46

the database, the map format and the physics are compatible

19:46

nothing else is needed

i initially thought that was supposed to be a replacement for the ddnet client xD

imo that would be a waste of effort, even if it might sound counter intuitive

19:51

if i make a client in rust that works with the current system, then it's really just a 1:1 rewrite, and the benefit is not that huge. If i design a completely new client & server, I can add features not possible before and thus give it at least a potential future

much of the benefit comes from the client and server being one codebase

19:51

lots of duplicate shit if u were to make a ddnet-compatible client that also has its own schemes for stuff

that makes more sense now

19:53

thanks for the explanation

i also think ddnet rs should try its best to not give into backwards compatibility obligations

20:04

i think that’s where lots of the convolution started

20:04

break shit

im back to implementing snapshots from scratch in rust

20:06

i hate it ngl

20:07

easier to write another protocol

20:07

without them

20:07

hmm now i wonder how ddnet-rs protocol works

20:09

oh right twsnap exists

20:09

i forgor

20:11

nvm it doesnt support teeworlds

I also think ddnet-rs shouldn't just break shit because it's fun to break shit. Don't break shit that works

20:25

It's all fun and games until we end up with 8 forks that are not intercompatible

Learath2

It's all fun and games until we end up with 8 forks that are not intercompatible

monkaStop

Actually that might be fun too, back in my day we used to have to download 5 different patches of age of empires 2 to play with everyone

20:33

I had this weird patch switcher thing with cool dubstep music in the back

Learath2

It's all fun and games until we end up with 8 forks that are not intercompatible

if it’s linear and version-based API changes then it’s fine

20:45

you just insist that the user use the newest client. the cost of innovation

Costs are only worth paying if the return is worth it

well nobody is expecting stability from this codebase yet

20:47

this is more of a fun project than something aiming to replace proper DDNet atm, so i think we should change things (only as much as necessary obv)

I'm just saying don't go breaking stuff that doesn't need breaking because you are annoyed at us keeping the old codebase very stable

oh it’s not a spite thing

20:48

if it ain’t broken don’t fix it (edited)

20:48

on the other hand. If it’s broken. Fucking fix it (edited)

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9541 Improve ingame server info, refactoring

Show the current server's community icon with its name as a tooltip. Show score limit and time limit like in the scoreboard only when they are set instead of showing the default value 0. Also show the current and total number of rounds if set. Improve consistency of text margins. Remove empty lines in game info. Use all addresses of the current server info for checking, adding and removing server favorite instead of only considering the address we are connected to. Refactor layo...

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

4917514 Improve ingame server info, refactoring - Robyt3 6d89940 Merge pull request #9541 from Robyt3/Client-Menus-Ingame-Serverinfo-Refactoring - def-

22:23

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9541 Improve ingame server info, refactoring

@DDNet

greenthing

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