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Between 2025-01-04 00:00 and 2025-01-05 00:00

[ddnet/ddnet-rs-misc] Pull request opened: #2 flake.nix init

this adds a simple flake.nix to use with nix develop or direnv. nix run is borked - this issue seems to be nix's way of sandboxing, since we're patching rust-ffmpeg-sys it will fail. related discussion: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/rust-packaging-issue-unable-to-fetch-git-dependencies-correctly/46547 i dont really wanna create a PR just to update the .gitignore, so i'll keep it in mind if i actually do make a PR with more than 4 loc for that.

Who ping

chillerdragon: did we support for names longer than 16bytes. 0.7 has that right?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9475 Editor: confirm deletion of images/sounds that are used in map layers

Accidentally deleting an image/sound that is used in many layers is a destructive action and is not undo-able, you have to go back and replace all the layer images/sounds !image

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added ...

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06:09

imagine c++ having this level of error reporting

06:10

meanwhile c (edited)

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gigachad

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For loop does have empty body

ye

06:12

but its not enough context aware

06:13

it should suggest to remove it entirely cuz there is a {} after

it gets formatted to

int i, sum = 0;
for(i = 0; i < 5; i++)
    ;
{
    i += sum;
}

for me, I didn't even have to press the format hotkey but that also does it

06:15

it's actively impossible to write that code lol

what?

06:16

not everyone uses a format on save xD

ok only sane people

i dont

06:16

it can be distracting, i just format manually

06:16

am i insane? justatest

justatest

I have format on line end, whenver I type ; it formats the line

https://getfullyear.com/

06:18

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the sponsor message lmao

xd

06:19

are u awake at 7?

06:19

or u didnt sleep

06:19

im a degen and wake up at 7 on saturday

06:19

deen_star

I'm in america

oh

06:20

06:20

but u are american or german?

06:21

i default to german for devs, TIL xd

american?

06:21

you're not the only one

do u know gdin?

zwelf asked me to go to teeworld developer meetup in germany

06:21

yesterday (edited)

oh nice

lol

it must be expensive for u tho

06:22

its expensive for me from bcn already xD

Ryozuki

do u know gdin?

only a little bit

but ill go

not irl

wow whos going

for now most german devs and me xD

06:26

hope learath comes i need to see the C man

gerdev

nice

eidderFsT

gerdev

come

Ryozuki

hope learath comes i need to see the C man

This is me

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9476 Extend name & clan to support 16/12 unicode characters

This is my attempt to extend the name & clan to support 16/12 unicode characters, aligning with teeworlds 0.7. This "fixes" CJK names being limited to 5 characters, which isn't a lot, especially for Japanese. Clan's being limited to 4 characters are even worse.

Implementation

A crude string replacement is done to change every name / clan's char array length. The code compiles, but see TODOs below on parts that need to be double checked.

Client to server

Didn't change much...

Learath2

This is me

you're an ai generated old man?

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

28f0d2d Editor: confirm deletion of images/sounds that are used in map layers, fix crash when nonexistent image is added thru history/redo - l-ouis 42228b0 Merge pull request #9475 from l-ouis/editor - def-

09:36

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9475 Editor: confirm deletion of images/sounds that are used in map layers, fix crash when nonexistent image is added thru history/redo

@Robyt3 should methods like CEditor::AddSound also be not static then?

https://youtu.be/oAsrLxaAkY0

Beating the $20B Joystick Drift Problem, and giving it away for free

Hecta

you're an ai generated old man?

Aye

louis

@Robyt3 should methods like CEditor::AddSound also be not static then?

nvm

Learath2

https://youtu.be/oAsrLxaAkY0

hall effects were that recent? i feel like i remember them being around for some time

Learath2

https://youtu.be/oAsrLxaAkY0

Haven't these been around since forever?

louis

hall effects were that recent? i feel like i remember them being around for some time

At least in keyboards they're absolutely ancient

They were around, console makers just haven’t been using them so they can sell more controllers when the pots start failing inevitably

10:55

Dreamcast had hall effect joysticks

They also have the benefit of potentially being smoother yay

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

a6b5945 Add 20 € donation by ReD - def-

@ReD Thanks!

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9477 Update Ukrainian l10n (18.9)

Farewell.

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using...

11:39

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9478 Update Swedish translations for 18.9

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-ad...

poggers2

3

furo is back

back to sleep

Tater

zwelf asked me to go to teeworld developer meetup in germany

I sponsor you 50€ of your costs if you come xdd

eidderFsT

chillerdragon: did we support for names longer than 16bytes. 0.7 has that right?

Ah nice you port that after all

it wasn't really a port i think

11:53

i'm just trying, not sure if it'll work out tho, i feel like so many thing can go wrong

11:54

ghost already doesn't work, and i'm still not sure how to deal with that

eidderFsT

@Learath2 curious how the http reg is going

it builds it links, lets see if it crashes

epic

I think it works question mark

did you register a server

I can't really test it because can't open a port

NAT moment

Well bigger issue is that idk the credentials to this modem

I don't even have a public IP from ISP

I made a pr with it, I'll pull it to some ddnet server, build and test it there

ok

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9425 Editor tele button also acts like Refocus button

hi from andorra

@eidderFsT it works as far as I can see

12:45

I haven't tested all 256 slots though as idk how, you can mess around with it if you'd like, I gtg

epic

12:46

ok

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

4628d38 teleport hook line (only when there is 1 possible exit) - art0007i 8bb8a17 Merge pull request #9459 from art0007i/hookline-teleport - Robyt3

12:54

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9459 teleport hookline (only when there is 1 possible exit)

poggers2

2

12:54

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8735 Hooklines should go through hook teleports

Super cringe video for those who are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtyvpZKKuVA A text version of this video is in the video description

(DDNet-rs) DDNet rewrite in Rust

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[ddnet/ddnet-rs] Pull request opened: #11 Use CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS to not fail on second setup

@Zwelf didnt see that in twgame at first lol

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14:31

ah its empty

yeah, I tried writing once, vut threw the code away. My first approach didn't work well.

what exactly didnt work well

14:34

is it possible to see the code?

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Super cringe video for those who are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtyvpZKKuVA A text version of this video is in the video description

nice voice ddnet rs crashes when i switch desktops back and forth

same

louis

nice voice ddnet rs crashes when i switch desktops back and forth

yeah it's a wayland bug use WAYLAND_DISPLAY= ./ddnet-rs (edited)

14:37

as workaround

also, i'm sort of confused with the direction you want to take ddnet-rs

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Super cringe video for those who are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtyvpZKKuVA A text version of this video is in the video description

bruh it took me too much time to figure some of those stuff out

14:41

and now i see a video that goes over the features

14:41

14:41

ive spent like 20 minutes trying to figure out how thoses profile work lmao (edited)

i created an issue: https://github.com/rust-windowing/winit/issues/4073

zwp_pointer_constraints_v1#19: error 1: the surface is already cons...

Description Hello together, on wayland I experience a bug where when I change the cursor grab mode it crashes the client. This can be reproduced by going ingame (e.g. on a LAN server) and then tab ...

14:43

let's see how they respond

louis

also, i'm sort of confused with the direction you want to take ddnet-rs

watcha mean exactly?

is it supposed to exist alongside current ddnet or etc etc think_bot

think_bot

The map & database, aswell as the ddnet physics are backward compatible. So it can coexist to the current ddnet without having any of its limitations

14:47

I don't aim to replace ddnet, but if in the long run more players like this version I also wouldn't prevent it from happening ^^

do u plan to keep the map system or maybe implement a classic map type along a better maybe more dynamic map type?

louis

do u plan to keep the map system or maybe implement a classic map type along a better maybe more dynamic map type?

generally speaking i designed the mod support so that you can use completely custom maps, with a completely different map format. (this however requires a render mod too) But I am open to also extend the current one to fix issues with the current format and maybe make it flexible in some regards (edited)

14:49

The good thing is that if you have the map in legacy format, you can always convert it to the new format

14:50

so breaking changes can be done a bit easier

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Super cringe video for those who are interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtyvpZKKuVA A text version of this video is in the video description

"this will for example allow for moving tiles on cock"

14:53

xDD

14:56

"a sad prediction is done in physics"

Teero

"this will for example allow for moving tiles on cock"

tja

14:57

i blame qshar

Teero

"a sad prediction is done in physics"

15:00

i thought you meant asset? xD

Teero

i thought you meant asset? xD

dunno what timestamp is it even xd

no idea

15:03

i finished

[ddnet/ddnet-rs] Pull request closed: #11 Use CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS to not fail on second setup

15:21

[ddnet-rs:main] 2 new commits

d711c49 Use CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS to not fail on second setup - Jupeyy ea1d5ab Merge pull request #11 from Jupeyy/pr_create_if_not_exists - Jupeyy

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[ddnet/ddnet-rs] Pull request opened: #12 Fix query responses being silently dropped

Log errors

This command was not found.

[ddnet/ddnet-rs] Pull request closed: #12 Fix query responses being silently dropped

15:53

[ddnet-rs:main] 2 new commits

cdf42d6 Fix query responses being silently dropped - Jupeyy 4a65901 Merge pull request #12 from Jupeyy/pr_fix_dropped_queries - Jupeyy

@eidderFsT 0.7 name length support is broken at least in demos

17:41

but yes in theory 0.7 supports 16 utf8 characters

17:41

``MAX_NAME_LENGTH=16,

17:41

MAX_NAME_ARRAY_SIZE=MAX_NAME_LENGTH*UTF8_BYTE_LENGTH+1,

17:42

ddnet did not extend 0.6 as far as i know and is capped at 16 bytes

chillerdragon: check my ddnet pr #9476

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9476

@Ryozuki i agree manual formatting is much better

17:47

too lazy to check that huge pr sorry

justatest

but i remember being annoyed by something name related. I think it really was the teeworlds 0.7 demos missing long name support.

ChillerDragon

but i remember being annoyed by something name related. I think it really was the teeworlds 0.7 demos missing long name support.

ye, so i avoided netmsg like a plague

solution: redesign the whole protocol from scratch

b-b-but the backwards compatability!!

screw backwards compatibility

18:05

if it mattered ddnet would have supported teewars clients

@chillerdragon i found your next project

xD

@eidderFsT can demos now show cursors in 18.9

18:14

i wanted to check but i forgot and im not home now

Yes

does android client have the updater installed with it?

Hecta

does android client have the updater installed with it?

no, that's not supported

:(

@meloƞ

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@meloƞ

baked

can't wait

[ddnet/ddnet-rs] Pull request opened: #13 Implement some missing items in the mod macros

Also make the vanilla code moddable a little more

[ddnet/ddnet-rs] Pull request closed: #13 Implement some missing items in the mod macros

20:17

[ddnet-rs:main] 2 new commits

ce88b7c Implement some missing items in the mod macros - Jupeyy 1624c81 Merge pull request #13 from Jupeyy/pr_some_better_modding - Jupeyy

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9479 Improve storage initialization and error handling, refactoring

Add checks to ensure that:

The first storage path, i.e. the path of the designated user directory, is added to the storage successfully.
The folder of the user directory is created successfully (or already exists).
The default folders inside the user directory are created successfully (or already exist).

On failure, the client/server will quit immediately on launch. The client will quit with an error message popup showing the log messages of the failed storage initialization. Cl...

ddnet spitball idea: crates and batteries

Crates have already been thought of
Draggable entities that have the same physics as a tee. hammer throwing, hooking and dragging all apply
- Batteries are like crates except when you shoot or hammer it it sends out an electrical charge, basically hammering you. Useful for things like hammerflying or cool solo maps

draggable stuff would be cool and probably possible to do, but backwards compatibility

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

3168a47 Update Swedish translations for 18.9 - furo321 ff373f0 Merge pull request #9478 from furo321/swedish-18.9 - def-

21:33

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9478 Update Swedish translations for 18.9

21:37

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

73ea690 Update Ukrainian l10n (18.9) - EGYT5453 16fb284 Merge pull request #9477 from EGYT5453/ua-18.9 - def-

21:37

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9477 Update Ukrainian l10n (18.9)

21:38

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9480 TOKEN ignored in the redirect packet

If a redirect packet is received in the dummy session (with the dummy session TOKEN), it will redirect both sessions without taking the TOKEN into consideration Summary of the packets: !image Redirect packet: !image Causing disconnection (redirect) of both sessions: ![image](https://github.com/user-attachments/a...

A simple fng mod using the patching approach:

21:46

https://youtu.be/BDYdIbmIN0s

DDNet-rs simply fng mod using the patching approach

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Is there already an issue on gh about the editor where if you select some tiles, and you have a brush, then if you select other layer, your brush will still show tiles from the previous layer but if you try to draw, the tiles will be different?

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https://youtu.be/BDYdIbmIN0s

@meloƞ chillerdragon:

Jupstar ✪

https://youtu.be/BDYdIbmIN0s

why didn't you stream it feelsbadman

feelsbadman

OMG I HAVE SOMETHING TO ANNOY MY WIFE WITH IN BED, LETS GOOO

MilkeeyCat

why didn't you stream it feelsbadman

feelsbadman

Soz

21:47

But see it takes 2h even tho I have some cuts in it

21:47

xd

kebs

draggable stuff would be cool and probably possible to do, but backwards compatibility

dude you know that random - symbol in game.png? just send that for any backwards compatability texture

HUH

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21:51

this one

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github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 5 new commits

26b669b Add CMemoryLogger - Robyt3 cd6c099 Remove unused path argument of IStorage::OpenFile usage - Robyt3 a30c3f7 Refactor IStorage::OpenFile function - Robyt3 62c9ed4 Improve storage initialization and error handling, refactoring - Robyt3 43524b9 Merge pull request #9479 from Robyt3/Storage-Error-Handling - def-

22:22

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9479 Improve storage initialization and error handling, refactoring

22:22

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3758 Data folder being used as user config directory with default storage.cfg

22:22

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9165 storage.cfg error handling could be improved

Im sure someone’s workflow depends on it

Replying to @MilkeeyCat Is there already an issue on gh about the editor where if you select som…

22:27

Nice I did not expect it so soon. Added to watch later.

Replying to @Jupstar ✪ BlaiZephyr | meloƞ chillerdragon:

kebs

draggable stuff would be cool and probably possible to do, but backwards compatibility

Server side dummies with special skin for old clients?

22:50

Pred would be weird for collisions but that's already the case for a number of things

22:50

(assuming we want crates to be, you know, square)

Hecta

dude you know that random - symbol in game.png? just send that for any backwards compatability texture

I mean if you really want nice graphics you can send patched map files with extra textures and then have a quad using that texture, animated server side Personally I would consider that overkill

22:55

(is this how KoG moving tiles work?)

risu

Server side dummies with special skin for old clients?

maybe

23:10

just debug dummies for older clients

Hecta

dude you know that random - symbol in game.png? just send that for any backwards compatability texture

i meant not just texture, but displaying it and mechanics

i guess so

23:14

i mean wouldnt there be a way to recieve extra velocity data and render a tee on the server

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

295d026 Add RUS5 - def-

Hecta

i mean wouldnt there be a way to recieve extra velocity data and render a tee on the server

probably, but 64 tee limit

Should crates be jumpable like tiles or like doors?

yea, would make for fun map ideas

Prop fly moment

some things to think about is: how would making and destroying crates work? is there a limit? how easy is it to break a map with too many crates?

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

8fb68de Add 44 € funding for RUS5 by BratOK - def-

@BratOK Thanks! (im deen guys trust me)

big sigma

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https://youtu.be/BDYdIbmIN0s

that is really cool, tho i wonder what is the point behind it? is it just a hobby project or does this aim to replace ddnet as a whole sometime?

i hope it does replace ddnet so much potential with a new framework

23:43

I’m always glad to support this game and community

Hecta

i hope it does replace ddnet so much potential with a new framework

yeah it would be really cool if there would be some protocol changes but i fear all the old cool mods that will be dead forever

23:44

and i believe the ddnet staff is quite conservative when it comes to such things, trying to keep backwards compatibility at all times

Swarfey

that is really cool, tho i wonder what is the point behind it? is it just a hobby project or does this aim to replace ddnet as a whole sometime?

I dunno if it could replace ddnet, but I do hope that it some day can connect to the official database. Making it an actual alternative. It's fair to say it's just a hobby project yet tho. Since it's still pretty unfinished

Swarfey

yeah it would be really cool if there would be some protocol changes but i fear all the old cool mods that will be dead forever

I'd counter argue that modding now allows creating higher quality mods and potentially motivating modders again ^^

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I'd counter argue that modding now allows creating higher quality mods and potentially motivating modders again ^^

i agree, i'd for sure be down to port my mod to ddnet-rs

23:47

(if it becomes a thing)

Fair

but i'll play with it sometime, new framework sounds rly interesting

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