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Ewan

one day you will get unlucky and the bleeding edge repo updates will brick your system

I can handle being unlucky once a decade, especially as I can fix it without doing anything special because it's such a delightfully simple distro to manage

00:22

The days of rolling a D6 to see if your Xorg will break when you update ended forever ago

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9421 Revert Tele popup

Since an additional setting was deemed evil in #9249, this completely reverts the popup while keeping the bugfix to always show the correct number next to the brush !image

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage t...

CeoGran

Made a funny ddnet ai, It can join any server you want automaticly, Thoughts? :D

After I am home I will add to the ai that it will be able to learn ddnet so at the end it would be possible to complete some maps (edited)

04:32

If its not against ddnet rules :)

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

345d204 A Barely Intermediate, M Axison - ddnet-maps

louis

fedora very convenient and i like vanilla gnome

I've been hearing decent things about fedora for a long time now. But as it's the first distro to unleash the cancer that is systemd out into the world I will not be giving it a chance

morning

08:04

got my fsf card

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what does gnu linux inside mean

@louis this is also a usb

08:08

the left side thing

08:08

its dope

does it boot?

idk what it has inside

08:09

let me see

08:09

iu hope its gnu hurd

08:10

[  360.068936] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[  360.284415] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=090c, idProduct=1000, bcdDevice=11.00
[  360.284420] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[  360.284422] usb 1-3: Product: Flash Disk
[  360.284424] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: USB
[  360.284426] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: SCY0000000026583
[  360.296454] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[  360.296589] scsi host12: usb-storage 1-3:1.0
[  361.826133] scsi 12:0:0:0: Direct-Access     USB      Flash Disk       1100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
[  361.826323] sd 12:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[  361.829320] sd 12:0:0:0: [sda] 31129600 512-byte logical blocks: (15.9 GB/14.8 GiB)
[  361.829967] sd 12:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[  361.829970] sd 12:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 43 00 00 00
[  361.830421] sd 12:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[  361.847160]  sda: sda1
[  361.847228] sd 12:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk

08:10

its a flash disk

08:11

Disk /dev/sda: 14.84 GiB, 15938355200 bytes, 31129600 sectors
Disk model: Flash Disk
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x5d6d715e

Device     Boot Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *     2048 31129599 31127552 14.8G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)

08:11

16gb probs xD

08:12

Image attachment

08:12

its trisquel linux

08:12

https://trisquel.info/

Trisquel GNU/Linux - Run free!

Trisquel GNU/Linux is a fully free operating system for home users, small enterprises and educational centers.

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

6e5ce8e Revert Tele popup - KebsCS 2c1f076 Merge pull request #9421 from KebsCS/pr-revert-tele-popup - def-

08:16

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9421 Revert Tele popup

@deen so sometimes the mouse is fully lost and i can not get it back in by moving it onto the screen then moving it onto the screen and toggeling the console helps you said it should happen every render? I assume closing the console does one more thing that really helps

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

That's really cool ASCII art, I think the weird angle is super neat

yes, closing the console refocuses the mouse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_vexing_parse

Most vexing parse

The most vexing parse is a counterintuitive form of syntactic ambiguity resolution in the C++ programming language. In certain situations, the C++ grammar cannot distinguish between the creation of an object parameter and specification of a function's type. In those situations, the compiler is required to interpret the line as a function type s...

How to properly deal with utf8 inside ddnet code? I want to encode players' nicknames into ddnet-web like string, where special characters are being replaced with -number-, but I'm getting errors because my chars are obviously wrong

09:56

Okay I think I got it

sorry, it's my own format, I think I should have used something standard instead

@deen what do you suggest i do here? try to patch ddnet to force refocus? or downgrade gnome?

10:10

i wonder why i am the only one with this issue

10:10

no other gnome arch users with multiple screens?

ChillerDragon: what is your issue

10:23

i think i have a related issue

10:24

using mouse inside ddnet menu basically moves the cursor on my desktop and it'll freeze when it hits screen borders

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9422 Add button to open Touch controls wiki page to controls editor

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[X] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[X] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the cha...

10:42

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9423 repurpose unused eye slot on skin pngs as afk / crying eye

!image Circled is a + eye that is never used afaik. My proposal is to instead use this for the afk / crying eyes so newer skins can have custom graphics for these eyes instead of using the smushed default eyes. Cons: Need to replace every skin in the db to replace these eyes with scaled normal eyes using some script Have to manage people's custom skins getting broken

llvm is adding a type sanitizer

10:45

https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/commit/a487b792e2da

[TySan] Add initial Type Sanitizer (LLVM) (#76259) · llvm/llvm-proj...

This patch introduces the LLVM components of a type sanitizer: a sanitizer for type-based aliasing violations. It is based on Hal Finkel's https://reviews.llvm.org/D32198. C/C++ have...

10:45

C/C++ have type-based aliasing rules, and LLVM's optimizer can exploit these given TBAA metadata added by Clang. Roughly, a pointer of given type cannot be used to access an object of a different type (with, of course, certain exceptions). Unfortunately, there's a lot of code in the wild that violates these rules (e.g. for type punning), and such code often must be built with -fno-strict-aliasing. Performance is often sacrificed as a result. Part of the problem is the difficulty of finding TBAA violations. Hopefully, this sanitizer will help.

10:46

i think ddnet does type punning

10:46

which is why we cant do lto iirc

@louis i dont get freezes but my mouse escapes the ddnet window onto the second screen

yeah, i think i got that behavior if i connected multiple monitors, but i can re-test it later

10:49

i'm using gnome on fedora with nightly ddnet but i don't think this occured before (the issue with single monitor)

10:49

i wonder if you'd also get the issue using one monitor

i think my issue is impossible with one monitor and fullscreen because then the mouse cant escape anywhere

11:04

it might mess up your aim tho if the mouse can move freely instead of only the max mouse distance radius

11:05

@louis i dont think its a new ddnet bug but a new gnome bug

11:07

is halloween'ipo on this discord? or does someone know how to contact him?

yeah, my issue was that the ddnet menu cursor would freeze when the desktop cursor hit the edge of the desktop.

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9249 Add Simplify Tele popup setting

ChillerDragon

@deen what do you suggest i do here? try to patch ddnet to force refocus? or downgrade gnome?

I sometimes had this issue on macOS, maybe DDNet client should acquire mouse focus when we get the SDL event for window focus

Tbh relative mouse mode is simply a mess. Every backend behaves different on it. I do not understand why the OS itself doesn't simply ungrab the mouse if the window is inactive. Who needs relative mouse mode on an unfocused window realistically

12:38

In fact I once tried to upstream it to sdl: https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/pull/4683 But seems they don't care that using relative mouse mode just sucks xD

this just recently started happening for my ddnet

yeah probs a gnome issue

12:39

just use kde, all other window managers on linux are simply bad xD

gnome better

and wayland also still feels unfinished

12:40

i use it daily now, but always some annoying bugs xD

how recent can the gnome issue be though? i can't remember this happening any more than a month ago

louis

how recent can the gnome issue be though? i can't remember this happening any more than a month ago

do you use arch?

12:40

btw

fedora

and was there some update last month?

12:41

wait do you use steam version or website?

steam

ah ok

12:42

yeah tbh i think our steam version for linux is broken rn anyway

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9242

Lag spike when moving mouse · Issue #9242 · ddnet/ddnet

After launching the game, about 30 minutes or so, the game lags when moving the mouse. Version: Steam v18.7, Vulkan. Distro: CachyOS.

12:42

this only happens for me on the steam build

12:42

so most likely the shipped sdl is broken

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

56d912e Add button to open Touch controls wiki page to controls editor - Robyt3 f5bebc6 Merge pull request #9422 from Robyt3/Client-Touch-Controls-Wiki-Link - def-

12:43

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9422 Add button to open Touch controls wiki page to controls editor

@louis do you use wayland?

12:43

with gnome

yes

maybe they changed some protocol again lmao

12:43

@louis can u try to see if website verison works

12:43

then we'd at least know if it's sdl related

Should I start building my own DDNet?

i dunno

12:44

i mean yes

12:44

program your own ddnet

12:44

i need competition

I like the Steam playtime tracking but installing into steamapps/common seems somewhat annoying

i solved the issue by only playing ddnet <30 min

12:45

I guess I could just change the launch command

yeah https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/9242#issuecomment-2483391370

Lag spike when moving mouse · Issue #9242 · ddnet/ddnet

After launching the game, about 30 minutes or so, the game lags when moving the mouse. Version: Steam v18.7, Vulkan. Distro: CachyOS.

12:46

that guy even said a solution

I played over 200h in a month because I'm mentally ill

12:46

For like my first two months

the first years of teeworlds are addiction

12:46

we all been through that

Jupstar ✪

@louis can u try to see if website verison works

but im lazy

12:46

ill try

12:48

hmm the website download has whole other issues

12:48

i can only play 1440x960 although i'm on double that with 200% scaling

12:49

can't seem to reproduce the cursor bug though

ok apparently sveltekit can bite you in the ass if you don't understand exactly how runes works

15:46

catbite

15:47

spent two hours rewriting most of my pages. a lot of search results are still for sveltekit 4. it's a bit confusing

GitHub

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thats why smushed default eyes are good, you always know what emotion it is

Ryozuki

got my fsf card

fuck fsf lol

GitHub

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half the db skins have default eyes if we make one default crying eye we can make a tool that replaces all the default ones

17:03

and if i get bored enough i could help replace the rest

17:08

so: Angry: signs

signs

fury

angry

Squint:

zzzz

tear

mmm

Shock:

wtf

what

hey

boo

Happy:

music

heartw

happy

Hurt:

sorry

ouch

oop

17:09

dunno what we can change to a sad face

17:09

or if we were to add more emotes

@Jupstar ✪ Any way I can do CUi::DoButtonLogic with my own mousepos? I added component that uses remapped screen resolution and ui's mousepos is like 1/4's of my component's screen. I don't want to duplicate code for such minor stuff (edited)

17:26

Also what is HotItem and ActiveItem, I couldn't understand purely from usages in code

Voxel

so: Angry: signs

signs

fury

angry

Squint:

zzzz

tear

mmm

Shock:

wtf

what

hey

boo

Happy:

music

heartw

happy

Hurt:

sorry

ouch

oop

I kinda wish I could use the shocked emotes without changing my eyes... Maybe make emotes and eyes separate?

17:48

and

are very different in tone

theres a command for that

17:48

/eyeemote i think

Ah, I guess I should rtfm

Ryozuki

got my fsf card

He joined them and shared the software He became free, hackers, he became free

smash or pass?

smash

smash

19:14

noobs also need a custom menu to join teams

19:15

cus even when u explain them how to do it

19:15

they are not capable of understanding

Koll Potato

noobs also need a custom menu to join teams

actually goated

brownbear

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omg

19:42

magnificent

Anime.pdf

actually goated

add mute and ban buttons with in place duration and reason fields

19:58

justatest

protocol expers here, what does sequence mean in the vital chunk header?

Anime.pdf

actually goated

this needs to be merged holy

20:07

man you're making me want to rice up ddnet on my own

kek

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Anime.pdf

smash or pass?

smash but the colored icons feel off fsr

oof not being able to scroll while the demo menu is hidden is crazy annoying

i wish there was a tile like speeders but it sets your speed to a specific amount

20:52

and maybe something to tp you to a direct coord

Voxel

smash but the colored icons feel off fsr

white looked a little too plain to me, but yeah, im not very good with colors and stuff

Every chunk header can contain a vital flag (MSGFLAG_VITAL). Note that one teeworlds packet can contain multiple chunks. If said vital flag is set to true the receiving party has to increment a counter. This counter is called the sequence or acknowledge number. Client and server will send the amount of vital chunks they received as sequence number in the packet header

Replying to @Koll Potato protocol expers here, what does sequence mean in the vital chunk header?

21:01

https://chillerdragon.github.io/teeworlds-protocol/06/fundamentals.html#sequence_numbers

21:02

In the packet header its amount received and in the chunk header its amount sent

thank you, i got it working by trial and error, but wasnt sure what i was doing

21:12

pretty much the connection part up to the EnterGame packet is done :P

Nice

Anime.pdf

@Jupstar ✪ Any way I can do CUi::DoButtonLogic with my own mousepos? I added component that uses remapped screen resolution and ui's mousepos is like 1/4's of my component's screen. I don't want to duplicate code for such minor stuff (edited)

i honestly dunno, maybe robyte can help. havent touched ddnet ui code in like 2 years

21:35

i mean there is always a way ig xd

Sans

this needs to be merged holy

F4 I don't want my mouse unlocked while looking at the scoreboard

Jupstar ✪

i mean there is always a way ig xd

i kinda just made implementation myself, referencing emoticon menu, and for some reason sometimes clicks don't count lol, but i didn't debug this yet

Teero

F4 I don't want my mouse unlocked while looking at the scoreboard

It's pretty inline with other games I play ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Teero

F4 I don't want my mouse unlocked while looking at the scoreboard

don't worry, i don't think i will pr this, also it's locking/unlocking with key

Ah ok

omg the server is working

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To be fair, it would be nice to have a hotkey to toggle the mouse on tab, that way you don't loose the freedom of looking around with tab open, and if you want those nice and juicy quick actions you can toggle ur mouse, and do whatever

21:45

kinda like in shooter games (cs2, val)

oh god thanks heinrich i love u for libtw2

Anime.pdf

don't worry, i don't think i will pr this, also it's locking/unlocking with key

nooo, pls do, it's too good

Sans

kinda like in shooter games (cs2, val)

tf2 was insipration xd

nice

Anime.pdf

@Jupstar ✪ Any way I can do CUi::DoButtonLogic with my own mousepos? I added component that uses remapped screen resolution and ui's mousepos is like 1/4's of my component's screen. I don't want to duplicate code for such minor stuff (edited)

You can't use most UI functions outside of components that update the UI (menus and editor). I think the first step towards a clean solution would be to also use separate CUi instances for emoticon/spectator/scoreboard and update those like the menus/editor UI.

Just having this in a custom client would be sick

Anime.pdf

Also what is HotItem and ActiveItem, I couldn't understand purely from usages in code

The hot item it the top-most UI element that was hovered in the previous frame. The active item is the UI element that is being activated in the current frame. Only the hot item can become the active item.

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21:58

why it do that

Robyt3

The hot item it the top-most UI element that was hovered in the previous frame. The active item is the UI element that is being activated in the current frame. Only the hot item can become the active item.

the 'top-most' factor aka z-index is calculated just by render order or I can manually specify what should be on top?

Anime.pdf

the 'top-most' factor aka z-index is calculated just by render order or I can manually specify what should be on top?

yes, the last UI element being rendered at that position

oki, thanks. can't think of usage tbh, but will know it exists (edited)

It's for example to handle popup menus where UI elements in the popup are rendered above those in the regular UI

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22:02

Of you only looked at the position then you could activate UI elements below the active popup menu

cyberfighter 2

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can this be patched or something

22:03

happens when i just go afk

22:03

and do nothing

22:04

monitor was off but idk if it affects anything

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