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Between 2024-12-15 00:00 and 2024-12-16 00:00
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-15 05:30
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ddnet-maps
[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit
94f4aab A Bouncy Kingdom - ddnet-maps
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D4W!D𖣂 2024-12-15 09:56
why i cant join map with EUR? i can only join map with numbers on ping
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D4W!D𖣂
why i cant join map with EUR? i can only join map with numbers on ping
zhn 2024-12-15 10:02
did you hear what happened in 2022
10:03
can you join fin or ger servers though?
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<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ i would love to see it merged finally! But I will probably not do it my self in the near future (before 2026)
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-15 10:10
ohh too bad xd
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 10:48
https://everyuuid.com/
Every UUID
A searchable list of every UUID v4 - scroll till you find a new favorite.
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 10:55
@TsFreddie: that has to be the smoothest website I ever opened on my phone woah!
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jxsl13 2024-12-15 11:03
"The see me scrollin' they hatin'"
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they
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zhn
can you join fin or ger servers though?
D4W!D𖣂 2024-12-15 11:06
only ger and sometimes ukr
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D4W!D𖣂
only ger and sometimes ukr
zhn 2024-12-15 11:27
wait where are you from
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D4W!D𖣂
why i cant join map with EUR? i can only join map with numbers on ping
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-15 11:42
I think we already discussed your issue. You said you have no anti-virus and no firewall & already restarted your router, so just call your internet provider and ask them. There isn't a lot we can do for you. Maybe the internet provider blocks UDP traffic for many nodes
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Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 11:56
why i getting killed after using /tc on my local server?
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TsFreddie
https://everyuuid.com/
Assa 2024-12-15 12:10
00000000-0000-4000-8000-000000000000
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:27
beefbeef-beef-4eaf-beef-beefbeefbeef
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 12:28
Least vegan uuid
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@TsFreddie: that has to be the smoothest website I ever opened on my phone woah!
Pathos 2024-12-15 12:40
No really, how can it be this smooth?
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ChillerDragon: Also, sending e-mail, thanks :)
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:41
<ChillerDragon> @Pathos go in game
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:42
chiller when is tw in 2024 coming out?
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do you have enough clips?
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:45
<ChillerDragon> @Teero i usually release these videos new years but given that i have not started cutting yet i am not sure if i will make it ._. i have made very little clips this year i will recycle some old ones justatest
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No really, how can it be this smooth?
TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:45
https://eieio.games/blog/writing-down-every-uuid/
Writing down (and searching through) every UUID · eieio.games
I couldn't remember every UUID so I wrote them all down
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:45
<ChillerDragon> @Teero but if you have some pls send them to chillerdragon@gmail.com and the name you want to be credited under i rly want to have a community section this year
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https://eieio.games/blog/writing-down-every-uuid/
TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:46
content warning: Claude used
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<ChillerDragon> @Teero i usually release these videos new years but given that i have not started cutting yet i am not sure if i will make it ._. i have made very little clips this year i will recycle some old ones justatest
Teero 2024-12-15 12:46
ah man i wish i could've taken some but the bar is high xD
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:47
<ChillerDragon> nono no high bar @Teero trust me every clip thats not from me is super valuable it adds a new perspective on how ppl play
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<ChillerDragon> just take a short clip of your daily driver setup
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<ChillerDragon> i got like 2 or 3 submissions which are only pictures no videos and they are just ppls setups at home and all of them have their own style and are interesting to look at @teero77 i am sure yours as well!
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<ChillerDragon> here one little spoiler https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1734266940.png
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:50
XD
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I do have a funny vid put I can't post that publicly lmao
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:50
<ChillerDragon> sad
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<ChillerDragon> make a public postable one
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<ChillerDragon> or censor it
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:52
I can't XD
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Actually wait
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I might still have an opportunity
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Yesss
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:53
<ChillerDragon> poggers2
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:54
btw how do vc with ppl chiller?
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does matrix have the ability?
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:54
<ChillerDragon> yea but its usually cursed
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<ChillerDragon> jupstar found some nice site once but i mostly use wire for calls its solid
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:55
i mostly use wire for chatting with chillerdragon
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<ChillerDragon> jupstar found some nice site once but i mostly use wire for calls its solid
Teero 2024-12-15 12:55
whats your house house telephone number
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:55
<ChillerDragon> i dont have one
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:56
ah wire is a software
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im stupid
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:56
<ChillerDragon> oh lol yea
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:56
landline moment
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:56
<ChillerDragon> wire actually works wireless
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:56
crazy
12:57
simplex is also nice
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:57
<ChillerDragon> never heard of it
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:57
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplex_noise
Simplex noise
Simplex noise is the result of an n-dimensional noise function comparable to Perlin noise ("classic" noise) but with fewer directional artifacts, in higher dimensions, and a lower computational overhead. Ken Perlin designed the algorithm in 2001 to address the limitations of his classic noise function, especially in higher dimensions. The advan...
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sounds noisy
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:57
https://simplex.chat/
SimpleX Chat: private and secure messenger without any user IDs (no...
SimpleX Chat - a private and encrypted messenger without any user IDs (not even random ones)! Make a private connection via link / QR code to send messages and make calls.
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interesting concept
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:58
greenthing we use simplex everywhere in our VR title
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Teero 2024-12-15 12:58
no way there is a tui version xD
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lmao
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 12:58
<ChillerDragon> it does look good im so ready to ditch wire its way to corporate for my taste
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 12:59
i bet 1 cny that simplex doesn't work in china
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i bet 1 cny that simplex doesn't work in china
Teero 2024-12-15 13:00
bet
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it will i hope
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chiller here is my invite xd
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do /c <link>
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 13:03
i can't even create invite
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yep, not a thing
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Teero 2024-12-15 13:04
sadge
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what does it say tho
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 13:05
can't connect to <that url>
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basically
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Teero 2024-12-15 13:05
ig thats from your side
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sadge
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 13:06
def my side, no way i'm getting a connection as long as these servers are hosted. even for p2p if i can't connect to a stun or tracker it's no use.
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with no proxy btw
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i probably can use it with a proxy, but i can pretty much use anything that way anyway.
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:18
<ChillerDragon> @Teero i have trouble scanning it
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<ChillerDragon> @Teero i have trouble scanning it
Teero 2024-12-15 13:18
scanning what?
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:18
<ChillerDragon> the qr code
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Teero 2024-12-15 13:18
what qr code? xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:19
<ChillerDragon> your invitation showed one :D
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Teero 2024-12-15 13:20
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here scan this xd
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in the app
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:20
<ChillerDragon> omg images
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Teero 2024-12-15 13:20
https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-7&smp=smp%3A%2F%2Fhejn2gVIqNU6xjtGM3OwQeuk8ZEbDXVJXAlnSBJBWUA%3D%40smp16.simplex.im%2FpOTTvxUGlVmZoqw4pPhJDiUVuHVJxoUg%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-3%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEATt1Bh3sxTgnCHPa8mzetMKWROABpQOLpAYDw2fIZoUs%253D%26srv%3Dp3ktngodzi6qrf7w64mmde3syuzrv57y55hxabqcq3l5p6oi7yzze6qd.onion or this xd
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:20
<ChillerDragon> do i rly have to boot matrix now
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Teero 2024-12-15 13:20
the link it is
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are u doing this on mobile or desktop?
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TsFreddie 2024-12-15 13:26
the length people go to just to chat with chiller
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<ChillerDragon> here one little spoiler https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1734266940.png
Learath2 2024-12-15 13:27
Idk why but that's exactly the laptop I imagined you'd have
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beefbeef-beef-4eaf-beef-beefbeefbeef
Assa 2024-12-15 13:29
fabfabfa-fabf-4bfa-bfab-fabfabfabfab
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what a beauty
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oxyzo 2024-12-15 13:31
eeeeeeee-eeee-4eee-aeee-eeeeeeeeeeee
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:36
<ChillerDragon> @Learath2 thats Cipy's laptop i got a razer blade
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<ChillerDragon> @Learath2 thats Cipy's laptop i got a razer blade
Learath2 2024-12-15 13:37
Damn, so I have misjudged you
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:38
<ChillerDragon> @Learath2 here my laptop reveal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKV18A1DluU
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Teeworlds in 2020
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oxyzo 2024-12-15 13:40
didnt know that people in 2020 had tees as their head
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i missed out on something
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didnt know that people in 2020 had tees as their head
Learath2 2024-12-15 13:44
Side-effect of covid
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-15 13:55
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9390 Makes winter_night menu theme background can display properly on a wider resolution
Makes winternight menu theme background can display properly on a wider resolution e.g. 32:15 resolution on desktop before this fix: ↓ _Pay attention down here !1 32:15 resolution on desktop after this fix: !2 fix ddnet/ddnet#9300

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots i...
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-15 13:59
<ChillerDragon> oof i found the first catch @Teero missing group calls https://github.com/simplex-chat/simplex-chat/issues/2398
Add ability to make discord/telegram like group voice chats/calls ·...
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<ChillerDragon> the project is still young so there is hope but i can already see this being delayed forever and getting super complicated because of the high privacy goals
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-15 14:11
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[ddnet/ddnet-data-svg] Pull request opened: #63 Add grass tiles based on official ones
Based on the Official SVGs released on discord, these are more accurate than the actual remakes grass_main: just removed and moved some tiles. grass_doodads_0.7: removed and modified some tiles. grass_doodads: removed, moved, modified, and remade some tiles (a small stone and the columns). *both grass doodads are still 960px of size, ill try to fix that
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Teero 2024-12-15 14:27
yea
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-15 14:37
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
9c07d4b display properly on a wider resolution - ASKLL-STAR 02b3a89 Merge pull request #9390 from ASKLL-STAR/Fix-Menu-Theme-Background - Robyt3
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9390 Makes winter_night menu theme background can display properly on a wider resolution
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #9300 Winter menu theme background not large enough on wider screens
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Russell 2024-12-15 14:49
Guys help for me with old TeeWorlds Client
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https://downloads.teeworlds.com/teewars/teewars-0.3.1.tar.gz
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its broken
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zhn 2024-12-15 15:06
wdym broken
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zhn
wdym broken
Russell 2024-12-15 15:09
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:17
hey does anyone know how to program in c
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:19
a bit, why? :o
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:23
my internet will shot down tomorrow and i wanna learn c
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so i need some course to download
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free one
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@meloƞ also can i edit teeworlds code with c
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barlas
@meloƞ also can i edit teeworlds code with c
meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:25
It's written in c++, not c
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:25
isnt it same but with two plus
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:28
C++ can do everything c can, but c can't do everything c++ clan, it's basically a newer updated and extended version of c
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The actual difference is much more than that, but I don't feel like typing it down atm
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-15 15:29
@meloƞ is JavaScript the same as Java but with word script?
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:29
Hey the question is legit, don't talk him down like that! I didn't know Javascript and typescript differ
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I thought people just did a typo when saying TS instead of JS
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meloƞ
Hey the question is legit, don't talk him down like that! I didn't know Javascript and typescript differ
Avolicious 2024-12-15 15:30
TypeScript has to be transpiled to javascript
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meloƞ
C++ can do everything c can, but c can't do everything c++ clan, it's basically a newer updated and extended version of c
barlas 2024-12-15 15:35
so if i learn c++ can i write everything in c too ?
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barlas
so if i learn c++ can i write everything in c too ?
Avolicious 2024-12-15 15:35
No 😄
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:35
Well, no boom
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:35
so ur liar
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:35
thisemoji
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-15 15:35
Report hi
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m
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:36
The actual syntax and the way to do something differs
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 15:36
Just learn which ever C or C++ once you start touching the ddnet source code you will see what you are still missing
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:36
i want to play with teworlds source code and mess with some basic operating system projects
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zhn 2024-12-15 15:36
you need to learn both c and cpp then
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Avolicious 2024-12-15 15:36
Learn Rust
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Chairn 2024-12-15 15:36
"basic operating system projects" = bot ?
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Avolicious
Learn Rust
zhn 2024-12-15 15:36
poggers2
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Chairn
"basic operating system projects" = bot ?
zhn 2024-12-15 15:36
bosp*
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:37
which one i need to start
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 15:37
You can download this free course on teeworlds development https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhJkqAQmOh5LyYOfnMy4PJB6CSZltQyTc&si=bHbqkKgfREQgi208
Teeworlds programming
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zhn 2024-12-15 15:37
any
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Avolicious
Learn Rust
MilkeeyCat 2024-12-15 15:37
Rust mentioned greenthing
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Chairn
"basic operating system projects" = bot ?
barlas 2024-12-15 15:37
shhh
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MilkeeyCat
Rust mentioned greenthing
Avolicious 2024-12-15 15:37
In rust, we trust
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chillerdragon
You can download this free course on teeworlds development https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhJkqAQmOh5LyYOfnMy4PJB6CSZltQyTc&si=bHbqkKgfREQgi208
barlas 2024-12-15 15:37
damn chillerdragon always suprises me
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-15 15:37
In C, we see
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justatest
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MilkeeyCat
In C, we see
Avolicious 2024-12-15 15:38
C detected, opinion rejected 😄
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:38
in rust we dust
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well i still need a offline course to learn c
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or c++ if its easier to learn
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 15:40
Just download the YouTube videos using yt-dlp
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Plus any of the intro to C or C++ tutorials out there like for example this one https://youtu.be/-TkoO8Z07hI
Bro Code
C++ Full Course for free ⚡️
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barlas 2024-12-15 15:45
isnt there a written course (i dont mean the books that older than my grandpa)
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 15:45
the books are still mostly accurate tho
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zhn 2024-12-15 15:55
@heinrich5991 do you remember if tw0.3.3 was running good on windows xp?
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on any windows
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server fails on map load with "wrong signature"
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seems that DATA magic word got reversed
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Kaffeine BOT 2024-12-15 15:59
I think I remember teewars 0.3.2 running on XP. It could not be win7 because it didin't exist, and it could not be vista because people (at least in that community) refused to use it.
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(back in 2008)
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zhn 2024-12-15 16:00
i wonder why it fails to load, has something to do with 32bit exe support of win10
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like it says wrong signature and prints 44 41 54 41, that's exactly DATA xd
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it can start with compatibility settings applied but misses data folder anyway
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ok seems runs fine on win7, win10 fucked up backcompat
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Russell
Click to see attachment 🖼️
zhn 2024-12-15 16:06
probably you need to boot up win7 even in order to launch it
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barlas
isnt there a written course (i dont mean the books that older than my grandpa)
Teero 2024-12-15 16:43
in germany there is "Grundkurs C" which teaches the basics
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barlas 2024-12-15 16:43
i am not german
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chillerdragon
You can download this free course on teeworlds development https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhJkqAQmOh5LyYOfnMy4PJB6CSZltQyTc&si=bHbqkKgfREQgi208
barlas 2024-12-15 16:49
which distro do u use
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nankudo ᵃᵗᵗᵃᶜᵏ 2024-12-15 16:58
hi, how to get freeze or no tee?
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i’m trying write a hud, he show freezes your teams or no
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 17:06
Debian on my laptop and arch on my desktop
Replying to @barlas which distro do u use
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Koll Potato 2024-12-15 17:07
why not arch or debian on both
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 17:07
Search for m_FreezeTime
Replying to @nankudo ᵃᵗᵗᵃᶜᵏ hi, how to get freeze or no tee?
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nankudo ᵃᵗᵗᵃᶜᵏ
i’m trying write a hud, he show freezes your teams or no
Teero 2024-12-15 17:08
i bet
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 17:08
Idk I like both I had Debian already and never had the urge to get rid of it once I switched to arch on the desktop
Replying to @Koll Potato why not arch or debian on both
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Arch is nice as a daily driver for work and gaming. But Debian is nice to reproduce things. It’s Ubuntu like so that’s what everyone uses and also CIs and it’s what I use on my servers.
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Koll Potato 2024-12-15 17:11
understandable
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i initially started using debian but then switched to arch
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both are great
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Teero 2024-12-15 17:17
using an old debian is also good for building binaries for the public
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-15 17:19
Well my Debian is usually new
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-15 17:22
i can run my rust builds on my vps, that is not true for cpp builds
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language issue
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Evelyn 2024-12-15 17:35
How do I make sure that when I change the card, my tunes are not discarded on my server?
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zhn 2024-12-15 17:39
reapply them
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Evelyn
How do I make sure that when I change the card, my tunes are not discarded on my server?
murpi 2024-12-15 17:42
$rtfm sv_tune_reset
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Evelyn
How do I make sure that when I change the card, my tunes are not discarded on my server?
DDNet BOT 2024-12-15 17:42
sv_tune_reset
Description: Whether tuning is reset after each map change or notDefault: 1Min: 0Max: 1
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https://ddnet.org/settingscommands/
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Evelyn
How do I make sure that when I change the card, my tunes are not discarded on my server?
murpi 2024-12-15 17:42
$rtfm sv_reset_file
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Evelyn
How do I make sure that when I change the card, my tunes are not discarded on my server?
DDNet BOT 2024-12-15 17:42
sv_reset_file
Description: File to execute on map change or reload to set the default server settingsDefault: "reset.cfg"
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https://ddnet.org/settingscommands/
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Koll Potato 2024-12-15 17:42
good bot
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Koll Potato
good bot
DDNet BOT 2024-12-15 17:42
:3
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murpi
$rtfm sv_tune_reset
zhn 2024-12-15 17:43
oh :0
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cyberfighter 2 2024-12-15 17:44
bad bot
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cyberfighter 2
bad bot
DDNet BOT 2024-12-15 17:44
:(
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murpi 2024-12-15 18:36
Did we keep the option to keep IDs above the players nameplates? Because how the hell am I supposed to figure out whos who here? https://i.imgur.com/SPMJfoo.png
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Toxic_Elanukas 2024-12-15 18:36
XD
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murpi
Did we keep the option to keep IDs above the players nameplates? Because how the hell am I supposed to figure out whos who here? https://i.imgur.com/SPMJfoo.png
louis 2024-12-15 18:38
@Solly
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sadge
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 18:39
what do i do if i getting killed after using /tc on my local server?
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murpi
Did we keep the option to keep IDs above the players nameplates? Because how the hell am I supposed to figure out whos who here? https://i.imgur.com/SPMJfoo.png
meloƞ 2024-12-15 18:39
just ban all
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Skibidisigma
what do i do if i getting killed after using /tc on my local server?
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 18:39
@meloƞ
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hlep
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 18:39
,/tc just teleports you to your cursor, wdym "getting killed"
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meloƞ
,/tc just teleports you to your cursor, wdym "getting killed"
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 18:40
when i using it i get killed
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no tp
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murpi
Did we keep the option to keep IDs above the players nameplates? Because how the hell am I supposed to figure out whos who here? https://i.imgur.com/SPMJfoo.png
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 18:40
cl_nameplates_ids 1
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cl_nameplates_ids 1
murpi 2024-12-15 18:42
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We need a bonk emote
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Voxel 2024-12-15 18:43
banhammer frozen
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-15 18:45
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9391 Player IDs become unreadable when multiple players stand close to each other due to overlap
!DDNet_513aCtLR87 CC @SollyBunny
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Avolicious 2024-12-15 18:55
When will this be merged? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8900
Add verify_url field to master for automatic verification by furo...
Not sure if it should be a config option, so that GER10 for example doesn&#39;t have to maintain it&#39;s own fork. Closes #6808 Supersedes #8698 Checklist Tested the change ingame Provi...
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When will this be merged? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/8900
Robyt3 2024-12-15 19:05
Not in its current state, the verify URL should be derived from the connect string
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-15 19:14
Can someone explain me this hammer in the new bounce map?
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Jupstar ✪
Can someone explain me this hammer in the new bounce map?
meloƞ 2024-12-15 19:15
freeze-timer is set to 1, so you basically unfreeze for a single tick (not really, im not entirely sure how it works)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-15 19:15
but does that even work when fully inside freeze already? lol
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oh it does indeed
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lol
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but only weapons work, not jump
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-15 19:40
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9392 Support running local server on Android
Compile the server as a separate library for Android same as the client. Use a foreground service to run the native main function of the server using Java Native Interface. Directly using JNI avoids the use of SDL as a wrapper for the server. The server service must run in a different process because it needs to be terminated to correctly restart the server. Otherwise it crashes because global variables are not initialized again when it is restarted. This also prevents simply running the...
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meloƞ
freeze-timer is set to 1, so you basically unfreeze for a single tick (not really, im not entirely sure how it works)
oxyzo 2024-12-15 20:13
Works in the multieasyvolvemap too
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murpi
Did we keep the option to keep IDs above the players nameplates? Because how the hell am I supposed to figure out whos who here? https://i.imgur.com/SPMJfoo.png
Solly 2024-12-15 20:16
I wanted ids to be on the same layer same as chat. As for making it visible... I don't think removing IDs makes that case any more visible. You can change the font size below 0 now
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murpi 2024-12-15 20:18
No one said anything about removing the IDs, the IDs should ideally be kept above the nameplate, like previously
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https://i.imgur.com/S39y6hA.png
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Didn't help
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murpi
No one said anything about removing the IDs, the IDs should ideally be kept above the nameplate, like previously
Solly 2024-12-15 20:27
thats more readable and again moving the ids up (what i previously called removing) doesnt make it much more readable (edited)
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also cute skin
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Solly
thats more readable and again moving the ids up (what i previously called removing) doesnt make it much more readable (edited)
murpi 2024-12-15 20:28
Is the hook symbol clearly visible to you in the screenshot?
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I'm sorry but saying moving the IDs where the hook symbol is currently located doesn't make it more readable is... just plain wrong. 😅
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cyberfighter 2 2024-12-15 20:39
@Solly did you change that or something
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you made the id the same place as name
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murpi
No one said anything about removing the IDs, the IDs should ideally be kept above the nameplate, like previously
Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:03
Do the IDs show all the time, or only when in debug mode? (ctrl shift D)
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meloƞ
freeze-timer is set to 1, so you basically unfreeze for a single tick (not really, im not entirely sure how it works)
Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:09
I always thought that desync issues between the client and server allows you to send a request for jumping onto the server, while the client is already in the freeze. Since there isn't proper debugging built-in to check each server tick's actions in order, I cannot determine, whether the order for applying freeze functions come in before or after the Tee movement functions
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In any case, freeze should have a priority above tee movement to eliminate the one server tick freeze jump.
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 21:11
We shouldn't discuss breaking existing behaviour on released maps impo. It's not breaking the game, using tunes creates edge cases all the time, and the map is actually fun that way because you get funny save encounters greenthing
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I always thought that desync issues between the client and server allows you to send a request for jumping onto the server, while the client is already in the freeze. Since there isn't proper debugging built-in to check each server tick's actions in order, I cannot determine, whether the order for applying freeze functions come in before or after the Tee movement functions
Tater 2024-12-15 21:25
https://heinrich5991.github.io/blog/blog/one-tick-unfreeze
The Anatomy of a One Tick Unfreeze
I saw the deepfly bind the other day:
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murpi
I'm sorry but saying moving the IDs where the hook symbol is currently located doesn't make it more readable is... just plain wrong. 😅
Solly 2024-12-15 21:25
If you care about the IDs (I assumed you didn't) then yeah OBS. But I assumed otherwise
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https://heinrich5991.github.io/blog/blog/one-tick-unfreeze
Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:26
oh, neat
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Tater 2024-12-15 21:26
you can fire mid-tick between being unfrozen and refrozen in the same tick https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1922
Allow to hammer directly on unfreeze by heinrich5991 · Pull Request...
Previously, this was only doable with frame-perfect input if you were going to get frozen again the next tick. Now, you only have to hold your hammer to immediately hammer once you get unfrozen. Th...
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freeze jump is unrelated
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-15 21:26
broken physics
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Tater 2024-12-15 21:27
that happens because freeze is delayed by 1 tick from your current position, if you move down fast enough you can be outside the freeze 1 tick and then grounded the next tick
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-15 21:27
i defs wanna see ddnet2.0 by superteero
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Solly
If you care about the IDs (I assumed you didn't) then yeah OBS. But I assumed otherwise
meloƞ 2024-12-15 21:27
We moderators are required to see the ID of players at all times in case of any problems
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:27
so, it is indeed the freezing function goes as last priority
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Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:27
what?
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Solly
If you care about the IDs (I assumed you didn't) then yeah OBS. But I assumed otherwise
murpi 2024-12-15 21:27
The IDs are the only way to identify a player currently on screen when it comes to in-game moderation
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meloƞ
We moderators are required to see the ID of players at all times in case of any problems
Solly 2024-12-15 21:28
Sure. As I said in GitHub I'm fine with that being added
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Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:28
This command doesn't work or what?
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Skibidisigma
This command doesn't work or what?
meloƞ 2024-12-15 21:29
He had it turned on, the visibility was blocked by a different reason nouis
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That's why he bonked, he knew what the issue was
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murpi
The IDs are the only way to identify a player currently on screen when it comes to in-game moderation
Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:30
imo, IDs in Teeworlds is like positions in an 64 (or any max player amount) position Array, where new players joining the server will occupy any available ID positions, while one player leaving the server will move all other IDs from that player's ID by 1
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meloƞ
He had it turned on, the visibility was blocked by a different reason nouis
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:30
I use version 18.7 and everything finegreenthing
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Cellegen
imo, IDs in Teeworlds is like positions in an 64 (or any max player amount) position Array, where new players joining the server will occupy any available ID positions, while one player leaving the server will move all other IDs from that player's ID by 1
meloƞ 2024-12-15 21:31
That would be horrible, imagine you type kick 5 stop being so damn annoying And you kick a random person because someone completly unrelated left
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meloƞ
That would be horrible, imagine you type kick 5 stop being so damn annoying And you kick a random person because someone completly unrelated left
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:31
fr
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 21:31
Would require a full overhaul of the existing system that has been used for over a decade
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Tater 2024-12-15 21:31
there's no reason to do it like that lol
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the current way is fine
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:31
It will be needed to overhaul with accounts
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meloƞ 2024-12-15 21:32
nah, not really
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I mean it requires change, yes. Not an overhaul tho
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:32
because then, each account can have their unique ID, which either can be human readable, or extremely unique
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Tater 2024-12-15 21:32
the server will know the account from the ID regardless
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Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:33
guys, almost every time I'm joining a server i getting id 0, is this rare?
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Skibidisigma
guys, almost every time I'm joining a server i getting id 0, is this rare?
Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:33
if you are the first one joining
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Cellegen
if you are the first one joining
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:33
no
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not first
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Tater 2024-12-15 21:33
it just means there was no one in that spot
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:33
then probably, whoever had the ID of 0 left, and then you occupied it, idk
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then probably, whoever had the ID of 0 left, and then you occupied it, idk
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:33
ik
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Tater 2024-12-15 21:33
it gives you the lowest available so id 0 is the most common
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Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:34
when ddnet 3.0?
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it gives you the lowest available so id 0 is the most common
Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:35
Do does it mean, that from an ID Array, it doesn't move all IDs by a certain amount on player leaving, but rather removes that ID in the Array, allowed to be occupied?
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imo, IDs in Teeworlds is like positions in an 64 (or any max player amount) position Array, where new players joining the server will occupy any available ID positions, while one player leaving the server will move all other IDs from that player's ID by 1
murpi 2024-12-15 21:35
Ok
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Cellegen
Do does it mean, that from an ID Array, it doesn't move all IDs by a certain amount on player leaving, but rather removes that ID in the Array, allowed to be occupied?
Tater 2024-12-15 21:35
it picks the lowest empty ID
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:35
but won't move any existing IDs in case someone leaves
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Avolicious 2024-12-15 21:36
yes, because its an array
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:36
right?
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Skibidisigma
when ddnet 3.0?
Voxel 2024-12-15 21:36
bruh 2.0 isnt even out
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Avolicious 2024-12-15 21:36
It checks which array slot is empty
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= no player assigned to it
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Voxel
bruh 2.0 isnt even out
Skibidisigma 2024-12-15 21:36
when 4.0?
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i have a meme
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Avolicious
= no player assigned to it
Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:37
It makes sense, somehow I guessed the other option, where you move that position to the end of the Array and then empty it, making other IDs subtracted
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It makes sense, somehow I guessed the other option, where you move that position to the end of the Array and then empty it, making other IDs subtracted
Avolicious 2024-12-15 21:38
Moving costs
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:38
around 3 instructions more, than the original, yeah
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Avolicious 2024-12-15 21:38
Thats expensive
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:40
can't IDs (as in the Array) be translated into a byte array for bit shifting by to get the ID amount? (edited)
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louis 2024-12-15 21:40
pepeW what the hell am i reading
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Tater 2024-12-15 21:40
there's nothing wrong with how it works already
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Avolicious 2024-12-15 21:40
What are you trying to achieve?
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:41
learning xd
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Voxel 2024-12-15 21:41
why so many questions
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cwllgen u ruined it
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o nvm i thouvht totar was askinga qurstion too
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:41
I just ask, you don't have to answer it 😄
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Voxel 2024-12-15 21:41
my job is stripping my braincells away
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Voxel
bruh 2.0 isnt even out
Souly 2024-12-15 21:44
we are at 18.8 (edited)
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Cellegen 2024-12-15 21:46
pepeW waiting till 19.9
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we are at 18.8 (edited)
Voxel 2024-12-15 21:50
dude remember the whole ddnet 2.0 hype
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-15 22:38
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
cef2c26 Support running local server on Android - Robyt3 104baae Merge pull request #9392 from Robyt3/Android-Server - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9392 Support running local server on Android
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<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ wake?
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[ddnet/ddnet-data-svg] Pull request closed: #63 Add grass tiles based on official ones
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[ddnet-data-svg:main] 5 new commits
99b82f6 add grass tiles based on official ones - M0REKZ 68854b8 try to fix export path and resize doodads - M0REKZ 64d9a02 Update grass_doodads_0.7.svg - M0REKZ 3a7e5f9 combine paths - M0REKZ 2b8e287 Merge pull request #63 from M0REKZ/main - ChillerDragon
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Teero 2024-12-15 23:43
Hi chiller
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<ChillerDragon> ur still here?
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Teero 2024-12-15 23:44
I'm in bed
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<ChillerDragon> me too!
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<ChillerDragon> time to wake up and find some coffee
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Teero 2024-12-15 23:44
xdd
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Where tf do you live xd
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what time is it?
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<ChillerDragon> 7:44 bali
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