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bora bill

norming

i hate it when english is not polite enough lol

02:32

english doesn't have politeness decorations

02:32

catbite

02:32

other than please i guess

sun

03:52

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TsFreddie

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I have not sun

04:53

Give sun back

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tex_cry

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Teero

Give sun back

I've sent it your way.

06:46

You should be able to receive it very soon

Wow, today's puzzle might be complicated to complete in C

Maybe that's a good sign for me

I suppose it's best to have a list of coordinates for each antenna frequency

06:55

But constructing that in C isn't exactly easy

I won't be able to attempt it until like 4 hours from now

Although i have done similar things in previous puzzles

I wish I could code

pilonpl

But constructing that in C isn't exactly easy

A couple easy solutions: 1. Go over the input once to find the number of frequencies and the number of each type of antenna, allocate the appropriate amount of memory, then go over the input a second time to actually process it 2. Allocate more than enough memory from the start because you have plenty to spare

I can just do malloc(file_size * sizeof(int))

07:17

But maybe i should try allocating the specific amount of memory i need since i haven't used that strategy yet

You don't know the size of each bin to begin with, though I suppose you could store each bin in the same buffer (edited)

I mean i just need a single array of coordinates of antennas and frequencies can be separated by -1

07:20

Or i can store the length of each segment

07:20

Maybe i should try that

pilonpl

Or i can store the length of each segment

MUCH better idea than delimiters

Yeah maybe

07:22

But i technically don't have to know the length

07:22

I can just iterate until -1

07:22

With a while loop

07:22

It just looks a bit worse than a for loop

07:24

Btw using while (true) and breaking at appropriate place seems like a better way of using while (edited)

pilonpl

It just looks a bit worse than a for loop

It's also slower

Well, it's hard to tell what's slower when using -O3

07:29

But yeah i can just get the length during the initial pass

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07:44

probably not the best way to do UV

07:48

tee's feet does have a tiny bulge don't they?

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second pic feels more natural

i thought so too

This UV makes more sense lol

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greenthing

it is UV mapped now

08:51

hand next

looks so cool xd

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TsFreddie

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is godot compat to blender?

idk what you mean by compat

compatible

anything is compat to blender if you export

11:14

justatest

but godot does have blend file importer

even the shaders or what

no

11:14

game engine never import shaders

11:15

but if it is PBR then it is pretty transferable

11:15

mostly

11:15

in most engines

i want to import into blender xd

11:15

i'd have thought blender is a superset

11:15

rendering wise

11:15

but anyway

it's not remotely close tho

was already not convinced by my question anyway xD

imagine making something for cycle renderer and expect it to work in game engine

TsFreddie

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i just love how comic it looks, so i wanted to try some things xd

TsFreddie

imagine making something for cycle renderer and expect it to work in game engine

i wanted it the other way around tho

you can easily remake this in blender

11:17

i'm sure

TsFreddie

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What is this? Ddnet 3d?

it's like one equation

TsFreddie

it's like one equation

true xd

11:17

and u even send it

that's the outline tho

11:17

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11:17

here's the cel shade

pilonpl

What is this? Ddnet 3d?

no

11:18

more like biggernouis 2

Wow interesting

but not biggernouis at all

11:19

it's just...

11:19

i'm trying things

11:19

that's all

11:19

amogus

so i started blender, and lost interest again

11:32

epic

11:37

i can only use blender since they added f3

11:37

hotkey stuff is not my thing

11:37

especially when i jump from program to program like daily

Nou.is was such a good game, it really captured the point of evolution

TsFreddie

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for second thought it was raw minced meat brother

Jupstar ✪

so i started blender, and lost interest again

Did you make donut?

Learath2

Did you make donut?

i tried to write a custom shader, but it was not intuitive enough to keep me going xd

Jupstar ✪

i tried to write a custom shader, but it was not intuitive enough to keep me going xd

Make a donut

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KEKW

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$configdir

sculk

$configdir

DDNet config directory:

On Windows: Old: %appdata%\Teeworlds New: %appdata%\DDNet On Linux: Old: ~/.teeworlds New: ~/.local/share/ddnet On macOS: Old: ~/Library/Application Support/Teeworlds New: ~/Library/Application Support/DDNet

holy fuck i hate godot's 3d math

13:35

why tf can't i just work with position rotation and scale like a normal person

13:35

why does it have to be a position and a fucking transform matrix

13:35

why do i have to extract the rotation and scale, create a new rotation matrix and reapply the fucking scale to get the final matrix just to do a rotation clamp

13:36

this is so dumb

TsFreddie

why do i have to extract the rotation and scale, create a new rotation matrix and reapply the fucking scale to get the final matrix just to do a rotation clamp

This sounds like you are somehow holding it wrong. Are you sure you aren't missing something to help with it?

probably

Okay so official documentation says that Node3D.rotation exists There's also Node3D.rotation_order of type EulerOrder which determines the order of the axes your object gets rotated on

13:56

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_%40globalscope.html#enum-globalscope-eulerorder

Global scope constants and functions. Description: A list of global scope enumerated constants and built-in functions. This is all that resides in the globals, constants regarding error codes, keyc...

13:56

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_node3d.html#class-node3d-property-rotation

Inherits: Node< Object Inherited By: AudioListener3D, AudioStreamPlayer3D, BoneAttachment3D, Camera3D, CollisionObject3D, CollisionPolygon3D, CollisionShape3D, GridMap, ImporterMeshInstance3D, Join...

pepeW

I guess i wanted quaternion

14:21

i don't want to run into gimble lock just bcs i don't know how to properly choose the axis order

14:22

oh there is quaternion

14:22

but it's not under transform hmm

14:22

but there is global_rotation but not global_quaternion fuck

14:23

justatest

no wonder i couldn't find it

Derek

for second thought it was raw minced meat brother

raw minced meat is a dish aswell

14:23

atleast where im from

that's called a tartare

i know about tatare

but it was just rice

ye that why i said i thought

it's served with egg, so if it was raw minced meat he did nothing wrong!

as i previously stated (twice)

Overlord

it's served with egg, so if it was raw minced meat he did nothing wrong!

raw yolk not scrumbled egg

Derek

raw yolk not scrumbled egg

EGG IS EGG

i never had tartare

also chinese cow does have a parasite problem so probably not really a good idea

TsFreddie

i never had tartare

dont try, U might get upset stomach or even poisoning

14:25

ach those too!

idk, maybe european beef are built different

just import some

14:26

lul

Derek

raw yolk not scrumbled egg

scrunkly egg

(edited)

just like how american's chicken have more salmonella in it

TsFreddie

just like how american's chicken have more salmonella in it

it gives them, that fishy taste?

Overlord

it gives them, that fishy taste?

I think feeding them fish is what does that

it give them higher death rate by eating chicken

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pisza

piszą m8

there is special made chicken with test that can be eaten raw but i wouldn't like the texture for sure

TsFreddie

pisza

if U were a spy, U would be found out... never

14:27

because current youth doesnt care, for the langauge ( sadly previous youth didnt either )

what language

any

you should pisza better sentences so i understand

xDDD

have U seen, what they did to english language?!

it's actually napisać

what no way

14:28

it say Piszą right there (edited)

you should napisać better sentences so i understand

14:29

I will just start typing in chinese, och wait

14:29

Freddie doesnt know chinese either >_>

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TsFreddie

just like how american's chicken have more salmonella in it

They prefer it that way (edited)

did him dirty

Learath2

They prefer it that way (edited)

extra protein from salmonella bacteries

14:29

LOL

Derek

there is special made chicken with test that can be eaten raw but i wouldn't like the texture for sure

I haven't heard of this being a thing anywhere outside Japan

Learath2

I haven't heard of this being a thing anywhere outside Japan

so U detected a Weeb

did they just trying to make chicken sushi

now extermination shall proceed (edited)

or sashimi

Learath2

I haven't heard of this being a thing anywhere outside Japan

well if there are people who wants to try it, theres gonna be people that will make it

TsFreddie

or sashimi

Chicken sashimi is a thing. But I hear it's not very popular. The texture of raw chicken is just too slimy

cant You kill salmonella with alcohol?

14:31

just drop it in 99% IPA

Mmm delicious rubbing alcohol

it tastes best with thermal paste

It also denatures proteins, so you'll get an even weirder texture and taste

as long as it doesnt mutate my protein bonds, it's all good and fun

Overlord

cant You kill salmonella with alcohol?

i've been to northeast of china and they forced me to eat raw river fish and drink hard alcohol so i don't die

14:32

i didn't like it

There is no way you can drink enough alcohol to kill whatever was in that fish

yup, folk tales

So if it had parasites you have squigglies in you now

especially considering that alcohol mixes with stomach acid, so its not as strong as it is in glass

i indeed didn't die luckily

14:33

i just wished it wasn't river fish

tho, the only time ever I got poisoning from tatare, was when I didnt drink it with vodka...

14:33

I would say there might be something to it?

i have no idea why people think raw river fish is edible

thing is everyone else tasted my tatare, only I got poisoning form it

TsFreddie

i just wished it wasn't river fish

Why? I did have some really great river fish before. Tho cooked

i mean chinese fish dishes are mainly river fish

14:34

but never raw

14:34

you don't just eat raw river fish

14:34

pepeW

but U did

14:34

so You do eat raw river fish

Yeah I probably wouldn't eat river fish raw. Oh well it's an experience

have i told you they made crunchy carp already.

14:34

that's pretty cool tho

14:35

iirc i did

14:35

Inside you rn

greenthing

that's a P...

It's a tapeworm. I have no idea what you are talking about

yeah but it's defensless tapeworm

i'm more worried about H. pylori than worms tbh

14:36

i got diagnosed with it but my mom insist it is fine (edited)

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14:36

this is only for Derek

and even if i got treated i'll probably get it back really quickly

Learath2

It's a tapeworm. I have no idea what you are talking about

i don't think tapeworm looked like that?

TsFreddie

i don't think tapeworm looked like that?

there is more than 1 type of tapeworm

14:37

one has shells one doesnt

fair enough

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14:38

in polish one is called "defnesless (on the left)"

14:38

and the other is called "armed"

14:38

hence the picture up there has a gun

TsFreddie

i'm more worried about H. pylori than worms tbh

i had H. pylori in 2019, couldn't eat anymore. The treatment worked fine but 3 antibiotics for 15 days made me lost 6kg

14:39

however, once treated, there's no reason for you to get it back

you mean you haven't eaten anything since 2019?!

just make sure your mom washes her hand before cooking

14:39

im the dragon warrior, the energy of the universe is enough to feed me

Chairn

however, once treated, there's no reason for you to get it back

unless you live a country where 55% percent of people has it

15 days of antibiotics, sounds like a good way to catch something else right after

nouis

3 different antibiotics, and some powerful ones

TsFreddie

i got diagnosed with it but my mom insist it is fine (edited)

Is your mom a doctor? If you have stomach issues, get tested again. If positive, get it treated

going to the toilet was just a rain of digestive liquid

Chairn

going to the toilet was just a rain of digestive liquid

everyday? and if yes for how long

our doctor prescribes 4 since some time ago they found out 3 isn't effective enough

You are not supposed to live with helicobacteri inside you

Learath2

Is your mom a doctor? If you have stomach issues, get tested again. If positive, get it treated

i don't actuallly

14:41

well not ones that literally disfunctionize me

14:41

i just got diagnosed during a exam

TsFreddie

i just got diagnosed during a exam

dont take exams then!

catbite

14:41

i wouldn't normally worry about it since most people around me have it

Learath2

Is your mom a doctor? If you have stomach issues, get tested again. If positive, get it treated

not needed, in most case, it is without any effect on your health

with no symptoms

Overlord

everyday? and if yes for how long

15 days roughly

but my family do have a pretty high cancer rate

Chairn

not needed, in most case, it is without any effect on your health

Which is why I asked if he had stomach issues

no stomach cancer yet tho

14:42

nouis

ulcers ?

Chairn

15 days roughly

:/

i coudln't even eat rice at that point

14:43

so i had to buy at the pharmacy protein drink

it was during the antibiotico-therapy?

yeah

Iirc ulcers are the most common symptom people have

my symptoms were being nauseous when eating

pepeW

btw I was chatting with my mom about why every teacher keeps prasing me to be the smart kid. and my mom dropped the info that non of my grandparents are from the same part of china and all of the local kids are dumb

14:44

my mom is a teacher btw

14:44

nouis

Actually I probably also have h pylori in me. Doctor wanted to test me for it but I was leaving the country so I never did

TsFreddie

pepeW

btw I was chatting with my mom about why every teacher keeps prasing me to be the smart kid. and my mom dropped the info that non of my grandparents are from the same part of china and all of the local kids are dumb

does Your mom praise U aswell?

And with the amount of sushi I consume maybe a worm or two

Learath2

And with the amount of sushi I consume maybe a worm or two

dont worry, a lot of dog owners have worms too

Cat owners have toxoplasma in them. Very cool

Learath2

Actually I probably also have h pylori in me. Doctor wanted to test me for it but I was leaving the country so I never did

when i was in the us, i'm getting new glasses. the optometrists ordered two doctor appointments for me immediately saying my retina is elevated whatever that means

14:47

then my college switched the insurance provider or something and i didn't follow up cuz they were asking about my new insurance info but i don't know it

14:47

greenthing

so, i still don't know what that was about

Elevated? Hm, something like keratoconus?

no idea

14:47

i wasn't very good at english back then

14:48

given that i'm still alive and well sighted, it's probably nothing

I have a friend with it, glasses can't fix it, not much you can do about it but surgery when/if it gets too bad

wears glasses ... well sighted

she asked me if i have headache often

14:48

but i do get migraine so i said yes

Overlord

wears glasses ... well sighted

i consider adjustable sight well sighted

14:49

cuz there are ones you just can't fix with glasses

Ever tried lenses? I've been thinking of giving them a go

as another glasses wearer, Im wary of lenses, and will never give them a go, neither can I understand people with good eyesight wearing the colored lenses for fashion

tf are lenses..

the thing U put directly on Your eye Fred

contacts?

Overlord

as another glasses wearer, Im wary of lenses, and will never give them a go, neither can I understand people with good eyesight wearing the colored lenses for fashion

Why wary? They have been around forever now. Colored lenses complete the cosplay. I approve

nouis

(also an eye already has a lense)

i got contact lenses before

14:52

for VR headset lol

TsFreddie

contacts?

Ah, yeah contact lenses. In turkish we usually just call them "lenses"

didn't like it

Learath2

Why wary? They have been around forever now. Colored lenses complete the cosplay. I approve

when I was still at school, few friends had them, dry eyes, putting it back on in unsanitary places, tired eye, "re-lube after 4h"

putting on is ok

14:52

pinching it directly off your eye ball is very unsettling

I actually wanna try contacts for VR indeed. It's extremely annoying to get glasses into a headset

just get prescription lens covers..

turns out everyone has VR except me on this channel, I wonder what U guys do even in those reality glassess....

unless you share your headsets with others very often

Overlord

when I was still at school, few friends had them, dry eyes, putting it back on in unsanitary places, tired eye, "re-lube after 4h"

I'm not a savage 14yo irresponsible child. I know how to keep things sanitary

there's no reason you can't just mod your headset

Overlord

turns out everyone has VR except me on this channel, I wonder what U guys do even in those reality glassess....

I play lots of beatsaber

Learath2

I'm not a savage 14yo irresponsible child. I know how to keep things sanitary

depends where U are, doesnt it?

Learath2

I play lots of beatsaber

i hate that it is too heavy on the wrist

14:55

but most other rhythm VR games kinda died

14:55

sadge

either way, if my eyesight stays the way it is, im gonna keep living like this, when it worsens considerably, that seeing anything without glasses wont be possible, I will do surgery

Overlord

depends where U are, doesnt it?

Modern lenses are pretty good at not drying your eye out from what I hear. But I still see acceptably without glasses, so if it does become a problem I can just revert to straining my eye

btw there is no global_quaternion in godot

Learath2

Modern lenses are pretty good at not drying your eye out from what I hear. But I still see acceptably without glasses, so if it does become a problem I can just revert to straining my eye

I go most of the week without glasses, for few years now, glasses are freaking heavy thing, and I love breathing through nose totally unobstructed

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Overlord

either way, if my eyesight stays the way it is, im gonna keep living like this, when it worsens considerably, that seeing anything without glasses wont be possible, I will do surgery

Are you far sighted or near sighted? Laser works much better for nearsighted people

and this gives me the wrong result

14:57

i have no idea why

Overlord

I go most of the week without glasses, for few years now, glasses are freaking heavy thing, and I love breathing through nose totally unobstructed

I have insanely light weight frames, I usually even forget I have them on. I accidentally went into shower with them more than once

Learath2

Are you far sighted or near sighted? Laser works much better for nearsighted people

I always get this wrong, so I will just say my glasses make stuff appear closer / they make things bigger

InsaneCat

i guess i'll just use euler rotations

14:58

i've worked in quaternion for a year at work in unity, changing that feels very weird

I have it written on doctor c ard somewhere

14:59

+0.75 and +2.50

14:59

also I have slight astimgatism

Overlord

I always get this wrong, so I will just say my glasses make stuff appear closer / they make things bigger

To be fair. I also don't know very well these two words. In turkish we usually use the medical names for the issue directly. Myopia and hyperopia

TsFreddie

i've worked in quaternion for a year at work in unity, changing that feels very weird

go back to unity?

no

15:00

although i would really love to actually

15:00

but i gotta endure so i can feel like i don't owe anyone anything

15:01

even though technically when unity charges you, you should already be rich

Learath2

To be fair. I also don't know very well these two words. In turkish we usually use the medical names for the issue directly. Myopia and hyperopia

here everyone asks if U have pluses or minuses and they understand ( I dont, there are thigns I cant remember no matter how hard I try, and those are far/short sigthed and amper / voltage (in polish they sound basically same to me ))

TsFreddie

but i gotta endure so i can feel like i don't owe anyone anything

shouldnt U strive to make Ur own engine then?

Overlord

here everyone asks if U have pluses or minuses and they understand ( I dont, there are thigns I cant remember no matter how hard I try, and those are far/short sigthed and amper / voltage (in polish they sound basically same to me ))

I have pluses too

15:03

.75 and 1.25 iirc or sth like that

im surprised U bother to wear glasses in VR then

I honestly do not understand how vr interacts with the eye at all. I just find that I see better with my glasses in VR too

dont wear glasses for 1 week then try VR

15:06

after prolonged period when I dont wear glasses and put them, on for first 1h I dont feel like i see better

If I stop wearing them for a week I'll probably start being able to see better. Buuuut, I get insane headaches

idk but, my eyesight on better eye got "Better" my 0.25

15:07

and it was either thanks to glasses, or thanks to constantly having eye readjust - hence work

Actually I'm curious if I still get those. Let me give this a try. No glasses for a week

but sadly the worse eye didnt get any better at all

15:08

if I put eyepatch and write with You, then I can barerly make out letters

It's unlikely your eye actually got "better". The lens as far as I understand is incapable of getting better

15:10

However, the muscles that control the lens can change behaviour

15:10

Wearing glasses does make your eye lazier

keep in mind, that humans grow for prolonged period of time, so maybe that had something to do with it, my last glasses change was in 2019, and my last eye examination was in 2022 (and there were 0 changes :( ) (edited)

15:10

I envy people who see full HD all the time

15:11

but hey, once I take off glasses, games that look good only on CRT, loog good on LED screens aswell

My mother got the ultimate surgery, a lens replacement. They remove your own lens and replace it with a modern trifocal lens. She now has permanent hd vision after having to wear very thick glasses for her entire life

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ok i've got the math right finally

Learath2

My mother got the ultimate surgery, a lens replacement. They remove your own lens and replace it with a modern trifocal lens. She now has permanent hd vision after having to wear very thick glasses for her entire life

atleast its no longer medieval style of, take off lens, put in acid, put back on

and it didn't gave me the effect i imagined

There is a downside though, it seems our very best anti glare coatings still don't beat nature. You can get some glare when looking at light sources

epic

15:12

11pm

15:12

give up time

Learath2

There is a downside though, it seems our very best anti glare coatings still don't beat nature. You can get some glare when looking at light sources

btw will it last her entire life, or she will have to redo it?

Learath2

My mother got the ultimate surgery, a lens replacement. They remove your own lens and replace it with a modern trifocal lens. She now has permanent hd vision after having to wear very thick glasses for her entire life

thats very impressive technology

I ~~love~~ 3d math

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pilonpl

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seems about right I haven't even started today's task

pilonpl

thats very impressive technology

but i imagine the risks are high with a surgery like that?

Overlord

btw will it last her entire life, or she will have to redo it?

Entire life if nothing goes wrong. There are some complications possible, some people had the lens drop from its mounting, so they have to go in and re mount it. And some peoples immune system doesnt like it so it gets dirty and they have to go in and replace it

justatest

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Learath2

Entire life if nothing goes wrong. There are some complications possible, some people had the lens drop from its mounting, so they have to go in and re mount it. And some peoples immune system doesnt like it so it gets dirty and they have to go in and replace it

I will wait another 15 years then

15:14

no need to hurry

15:14

tho for what we have aka +

15:14

there's llaser surgery afaik?

15:14

as in shoot laser into the eye?

pilonpl

but i imagine the risks are high with a surgery like that?

About 95% rate of success from what the doctor told her. But the doctor himself had 100% success rate. It's anectodal but trust inducing nonetheless

Overlord

there's llaser surgery afaik?

Laser works differently. They reshape your cornea so it bends the light differently for your suboptimal lens

the actual important part is how likely you are to go totally blind (edited)

pilonpl

the actual important part is how likely you are to go totally blind (edited)

Idk how much of that 5% is totally blind. But after they take out your own lens there is no going back

Learath2

Laser works differently. They reshape your cornea so it bends the light differently for your suboptimal lens

yeah what i meant is that some eyesight issues dont even ahve this option

15:17

either way, I would rather go deaf and mute, than blind

15:17

imagine all the not hentai I couldnt see anymore

My eyes have grown so lazy damn. I actually have to actively focus on things

idk whats bigger disability in my opinon, blindness or being unable to move

Learath2

My eyes have grown so lazy damn. I actually have to actively focus on things

noob

15:18

but if I only use the worse eye, I have to re-read everything to make sure i actually read what i think i do

15:19

btw @Learath2 a personal question, is Ur "better" eye, on the same side ur "main hand" is?

is there even such thing as "better eye"

pilonpl

is there even such thing as "better eye"

yes?

15:19

my better eye does all the work, when im not wearing glasses, worse is only for depth management

15:20

like I actually see with the better eye...

15:20

also just compare +0.75 vs +2.50

Overlord

btw @Learath2 a personal question, is Ur "better" eye, on the same side ur "main hand" is?

Yes. Idk if there is a relationship tho

15:21

I also see a slightly different color out of my right eye

Learath2

Yes. Idk if there is a relationship tho

I dont know enough people, but most I asked, have "better eye" on "main hand"

Colors are much more saturated on my right eye

that happens sometimes i guess

I dont think I have any colour difference

but its not permanent

@Learath2 btw we are not against servers charging for microtransactions right?

computers are best way to check it, becausxe if You look at IRL objects, lightning mattters and it's few cms difference between the eyes

TsFreddie

@Learath2 btw we are not against servers charging for microtransactions right?

we are against everything and everyone, always!

just asking, not particular reasons brownbear

brownbear

i wonder if depth perception is better in people who play video games. more specifically 3D video games

15:24

seems like it could do something?

pilonpl

i wonder if depth perception is better in people who play video games. more specifically 3D video games

the screen they look at is flat tho

15:25

but idk im 2d games fan

15:25

and my distance perception sucks balls, I cant tell 1m apart from 2m

Overlord

the screen they look at is flat tho

exactly, so less information to perceive depth

mmm as far as i know, books and computer screens (for prolonged periods of time) are terrible for eyesight

15:27

I can bet my balls learath as a kid did both read books and look at pc a lot, with not enough time spent outside

TsFreddie

@Learath2 btw we are not against servers charging for microtransactions right?

Personally, I don't mind. Idk if we took an official stance on it, but people do it

Overlord

mmm as far as i know, books and computer screens (for prolonged periods of time) are terrible for eyesight

probably because you dont spend enough time outside if you do those things. i am not sure tho

Learath2

Personally, I don't mind. Idk if we took an official stance on it, but people do it

thought so

Overlord

I can bet my balls learath as a kid did both read books and look at pc a lot, with not enough time spent outside

@Learath2 can confirm or deny?

i heard sunlight is important for the eye to grow properly

pilonpl

probably because you dont spend enough time outside if you do those things. i am not sure tho

it's probably more about lack of movement of hte eye, because You dont move, and the screen doesnt move either (just pictures on it )

15:28

because I read books using the power of the sun to illuminate surrondings

pilonpl

i heard sunlight is important for the eye to grow properly

yep heard this too

Overlord

mmm as far as i know, books and computer screens (for prolonged periods of time) are terrible for eyesight

From what I understand this is also folk knowledge. From what I gather refractive errors in your lens seem to be more genetic than environmental

Learath2

From what I understand this is also folk knowledge. From what I gather refractive errors in your lens seem to be more genetic than environmental

how fast does Your eye readjust? when I still worked, I worked by the window, and if I looked at pc for 4h, and wanted to see something outside, it took some time to actually see it

Learath2

From what I understand this is also folk knowledge. From what I gather refractive errors in your lens seem to be more genetic than environmental

It's not totally incorrect, but the reason isn't the screen, it's looking at something so close to your face for extended periods

yeah i think the impact of specifically looking at screens is really low. there can be however correlation between time spend using the computer and eyesight problems.

You'd get similar vision issues if you spent all your time with your nose stuck in a book

idk about U pals, but I spent most of my childhood outside, but also lots of night glued to screen, be it CRT, PSP 3004 or sony ericsson with super small screen

Learath2

Personally, I don't mind. Idk if we took an official stance on it, but people do it

ok, making gambling server asap

justatest

1

so there was plenty sunlight

Overlord

how fast does Your eye readjust? when I still worked, I worked by the window, and if I looked at pc for 4h, and wanted to see something outside, it took some time to actually see it

Hm, no time

Overlord

how fast does Your eye readjust? when I still worked, I worked by the window, and if I looked at pc for 4h, and wanted to see something outside, it took some time to actually see it

depends on how tired I am, or if I'm dehydrated, but after looking at a computer for a long time there's no extra delay

TsFreddie

ok, making gambling server asap

I dont have any money left :(

it really seems like eyesight is the least problematic thing when using computers for long periods of time and yet parents only focus on that lol

risu

It's not totally incorrect, but the reason isn't the screen, it's looking at something so close to your face for extended periods

I've read a study that suggests this relationship is actually the inverse. We observe kids looking at things very close BECAUSE their eyes are bad. Not the other way around

screens worsening your eyesight is just a myth, it was thought so but it turned out to be cringe fake info fr

Learath2

I've read a study that suggests this relationship is actually the inverse. We observe kids looking at things very close BECAUSE their eyes are bad. Not the other way around

But I'm no ophthalmologist. I'm far from qualified to understand it

pilonpl

it really seems like eyesight is the least problematic thing when using computers for long periods of time and yet parents only focus on that lol

books are worse, because they can be read in badly lit surroundings... (ever read a book under the sheets with flash light) meanwhile PC screen always blast fotons nicely

Derek

screens worsening your eyesight is just a myth, it was thought so but it turned out to be cringe fake info fr

nooo but the electron gun is going to fry my brain

What I do know is that your eye actually does become lazier in maintaining focus if you wear glasses

basically correlation doesn't indicate causation

Overlord

books are worse, because they can be read in badly lit surroundings... (ever read a book under the sheets with flash light) meanwhile PC screen always blast fotons nicely

I think books are generally nicer in dim enviroments, a screen that's much brighter than the environment is pain to look at

risu

nooo but the electron gun is going to fry my brain

and also get controlled by fbi agent on the other side starege

starege

But it's not a permanent loss. The permanent loss happens as you age. Both the muscles get slack and the lens hardens

risu

I think books are generally nicer in dim enviroments, a screen that's much brighter than the environment is pain to look at

I never use a computer in a dark room

risu

I never use a computer in a dark room

I dont do that anymore, since i went too tehcnican highschool when my parents ifnally gave up on controlling my time scheldue

15:34

I dont even watch TV without lights around

risu

I never use a computer in a dark room

I have my screen dimmed all the way down because it was annoying at night

flux / night light

skeithnerd

1

Learath2

I have my screen dimmed all the way down because it was annoying at night

that works too but you get better contrast with higher brightness

Everything in dark mode and a dimmed screen is good enough for me nowadays

Skeith

flux / night light

why use software, when monitors already have it

risu

that works too but you get better contrast with higher brightness

Yeah, dark scenes in stuff create issues

Why not

because it's... already in?!

Messing with monitor settings is annoying

15:35

Night light is baked into windows

while flux can be macroed to probably one button, monitor settings is 2 buttons

Skeith

Night light is baked into windows

meh, doesnt account for actual geographical location

15:36

as in it's already dark at 16:00

Yall nerds aren't using windows, so touche ig

im using windows >_>

15:36

and its set to night night 24/7

oic

there was a time I had manual keybinds for changing my colour temperature

tho, not every monitor has settings that are adjustable ( i made 3 for myself and just swap between those

I just always have a dark room, covered all my windows, never have to adjust it

risu

there was a time I had manual keybinds for changing my colour temperature

there was time, I had friends, and other tales I tell myself

Skeith

I just always have a dark room, covered all my windows, never have to adjust it

in tinfoil?

I stopped changing color temp. It just looks weird

Can't look at a normally lit monitor anymore though

15:37

cardboard

I used tinfoil, it helps a lot with temperature during summer

15:38

tho during winter i take it all down

You know what does take time to adjust to? Being outside in summer. The first week or so of summer the sunlight is just overwhelming to my eyes

I live in a camper currently, windows are covered in plastic to prevent cold air from seeping through

Learath2

I stopped changing color temp. It just looks weird

especially having a non-garbage screen now I kinda prefer just leaving things default so I get good colour rendering

Learath2

I stopped changing color temp. It just looks weird

I remember doing graphics for somone ONCE (i hate doing any graphics) and then forgot I nearly had no blue light set on monitor, looked weird to the other person

Skeith

I live in a camper currently, windows are covered in plastic to prevent cold air from seeping through

are You a nomad?

Nah, just in the process of building a cabin working on the insides atm (edited)

Learath2

You know what does take time to adjust to? Being outside in summer. The first week or so of summer the sunlight is just overwhelming to my eyes

go at night

Skeith

Nah, just in the process of building a cabin working on the insides atm (edited)

Wait really?

Skeith

Nah, just in the process of building a cabin working on the insides atm (edited)

wooden log cabin?

Not a proper cabin

Off the grid living

More like a tiny home shed-type cabin, I've been living in the middle of the woods for like 16 years now

Learath2

Off the grid living

more like living Off the grid... off the neighbour grid

Overlord

are You a nomad?

are you a monad?

Skeith

More like a tiny home shed-type cabin, I've been living in the middle of the woods for like 16 years now

is this radio internet?

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Please don't start writing about industrial society and its future @Skeith (edited)

greenthing

1

deen wtf

risu

are you a monad?

nah m8 im Danom

Overlord

is this radio internet?

I use starlink currently, it's good

you have to deny it. do you want nintendo's lawyer coming for us (edited)

Skeith

I use starlink currently, it's good

isnt that hella expensive?

Yep, but it's worth it

15:41

$120 a month

$that's damn expensive for me

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fng

15:41

i missed it

Skeith

$120 a month

That is insane. I thought my internet bill was outrageous here at 45€ a month (edited)

@Skeith but how do You get food / money?

15:42

No way they pay this well at DDNet

I do only get 50mbps tho, so a ripoff still

I have 1 gigabit symmetric included in my rent brownbear

brownbear

I was using wireless broadband for like 15 years, the speeds weren't great, around 0.7Mbps down then "upgraded" to 2Mbps

when i live on my own i pay 200cny for my gigabits

TsFreddie

when i live on my own i pay 200cny for my gigabits

wtf thats nothing

15:44

for a gigabit ( not for internet)

china gov hard limited the price

TsFreddie

when i live on my own i pay 200cny for my gigabits

That's so reasonable! China seems great :D

risu

That's so reasonable! China seems great :D

let's move!

risu

I have 1 gigabit symmetric included in my rent brownbear

brownbear

The city I live in is 96% covered in symmetric gigabit fibre. I live in the 4%

ISPs aren't allowed to raise price for home users

Starlink gives me 50-190Mbps now, happy with it

(afaik foreigners living in china have to go to police station every half a year to say that they indeed live where they said they live half a year ago)

Learath2

The city I live in is 96% covered in symmetric gigabit fibre. I live in the 4%

lol

Learath2

The city I live in is 96% covered in symmetric gigabit fibre. I live in the 4%

top 4% eat the learath

TsFreddie

ISPs aren't allowed to raise price for home users

A government that works for the people :3

risu

That's so reasonable! China seems great :D

probably why chinese servers are ridiculously expensive cuz they aren't allowed to charge home users. (edited)

TsFreddie

probably why chinese servers are ridiculously expensive cuz they aren't allowed to charge home users. (edited)

justatest

Premier Xi give me a nice paying govt job so I can help the dream

Overlord

top 4% eat the learath

No, bottom 4%, Learath is going to eat us

risu

No, bottom 4%, Learath is going to eat us

everyone in my city has 200Mb/s lowest (and most 300Mb/s) im in the only "hood" that has 20/10

15:47

even radio internet is around this for me ( on unlimited plan)

15:47

so when it comes to internet speed, only people in the woods can eat me

I get 50/10 pepeW

pepeW

15:47

VDSL2

Learath2

I get 50/10 pepeW

pepeW

look at fella flexing

I'm too far from the DSLAM to get 100/20

are salts produced by private companies for you guys?

TsFreddie

are salts produced by private companies for you guys?

Aye

TsFreddie

are salts produced by private companies for you guys?

U mean the password salt... or the table salt?

pepeW

so it is a chinese thing that gov produces salts

Bro China is doing like almost everything right. I wish my govt would produce salt

i does go back to like 1000 years ago tho, salts are authoritarian.

Learath2

Bro China is doing like almost everything right. I wish my govt would produce salt

when You say my govt, do You mean turkey?

and alchohols

15:49

but i think chinese alchohols are private now? let me google actually

bro 1000 year ago SALT in poland was more expensive than gold

15:49

or was it 600 years ago

Overlord

when You say my govt, do You mean turkey?

Turkey. Or any western govt really

Learath2

Turkey. Or any western govt really

munich airport is not Ur goverment!

TsFreddie

but i think chinese alchohols are private now? let me google actually

Turkey had a monopoly on alcohol for a loooong loooong time too

15:50

Sweden had a monopoly too but they changed it up, now alcohol is imported BUT only govt owned special stores can sell alcohol

Learath2

Sweden had a monopoly too but they changed it up, now alcohol is imported BUT only govt owned special stores can sell alcohol

also its hard to buy alcohol there after certain hours? or osmetihgn like that

In Turkey we called the stores that were allowed to sell alcohol produced by the turkish govt, "monopoly". Funnily enough the govt monopoly on alcohol is long gone but people still call the stores "monopoly". (Tekel in turkish)

Overlord

also its hard to buy alcohol there after certain hours? or osmetihgn like that

Yeah, only open on certain hours and certain days

Learath2

In Turkey we called the stores that were allowed to sell alcohol produced by the turkish govt, "monopoly". Funnily enough the govt monopoly on alcohol is long gone but people still call the stores "monopoly". (Tekel in turkish)

in pl alcohol only shops are also named "monopolowy"

Overlord

in pl alcohol only shops are also named "monopolowy"

Perhaps y'all also had a monopoly on alcohol once? It was a veeery common profit avenue for governments of the day

ye can't find anything other than salt (edited)

afaik, there was monopoly on everything except vinegar back in commie days

i don't think people knows that too, i forgot who told me salt was gov produced

TsFreddie

ye can't find anything other than salt (edited)

Tbf a lot of chinese "private" companies have huge govt stakes in them

tbf all goods are price controlled technically in china

15:55

justatest

TsFreddie

tbf all goods are price controlled technically in china

good!

Kweichow Moutai Co. Ltd. is 60.82% owned by the state

Learath2

Tbf a lot of chinese "private" companies have huge govt stakes in them

tencent technically isn't one of them but i'm not sure if they do that under the surface tho

So the state does technically produce and sell alcohol too

i guess so

15:57

but moutai isn't really the only alcohol so at least it wasn't monopoly?

15:57

idk

TsFreddie

tencent technically isn't one of them but i'm not sure if they do that under the surface tho

The "private" appearing ones are probably controlled by some other means. You can't allow private entities to have control of that much money and not take over the power

the state is probably also the only one allowed to do gambling?

TsFreddie

but moutai isn't really the only alcohol so at least it wasn't monopoly?

Probably not a monopoly yeah

i mean isn't all private companies state controlled if they have to listen to gov

Overlord

the state is probably also the only one allowed to do gambling?

Oh, now that you mention gambling. I hear in Germany they have state owned casinos

15:58

This is also very smart if you arent going to outright ban gambling. Atleast the profits go to something good

Learath2

Oh, now that you mention gambling. I hear in Germany they have state owned casinos

we only have numbers games, that are "allowed" (by state owned "company"), so germans are 1 step ahead of us i guess (tho I heard there's cassino in my city, tho im not sure how they operate)

macao is the only place that is in china that allows gambling

15:59

well you can say macao is not part of china but we count it

macao is province?

justatest

Overlord

macao is province?

not a province either

TsFreddie

i mean isn't all private companies state controlled if they have to listen to gov

Look at the US with all the "special interests groups" and "super PAC"s and "think-tank"s. This is what happens if you let private entities have this much power

TsFreddie

not a province either

is it like... tibet?

Overlord

we only have numbers games, that are "allowed" (by state owned "company"), so germans are 1 step ahead of us i guess (tho I heard there's cassino in my city, tho im not sure how they operate)

Ah we also have a state owned lottery in Turkey. But I guess state owned lotteries are common around the world

Learath2

Look at the US with all the "special interests groups" and "super PAC"s and "think-tank"s. This is what happens if you let private entities have this much power

ey maybe i like govermetn inside my govermetn?!

all the region we get back from colonies are assigned a special status to allow them to operate with their own gov to not do a 180 on their citizens

Overlord

is it like... tibet?

yes

16:01

i'm not familiar about tibet tho

Afaik Tibet is a little more integrated. Some parts of it is directly governed by china, some have autonomous status

but hongkong and macao are kept exactly as-is when they are back from england and portugal

all the stuff happening in hongkong few years ago

16:03

would suggest otherwise

well not like exactly

16:04

justatest

heyho

16:04

whats on topic in off topic

@zhn "monopolowy"

It's a bit of sneaky beaky stuff. Officially as far as I understand China had nooothing to do with the stuff in hong kong and hong kong govt wanted to integrate more with China themselves

16:05

If you bite

china brainwashing vs western brainwashing

i just mean they still have their own banks courts gov and the choice of driving on the wrong side of the road

Overlord

@zhn "monopolowy"

casinos?

that kind of stuff

zhn

casinos?

nah, state owned stuff

yeah, casinos

zhn

yeah, casinos

do U have "monopolowy" in Ur dictionary tho?

16:05

as in alcohol shop

Learath2

It's a bit of sneaky beaky stuff. Officially as far as I understand China had nooothing to do with the stuff in hong kong and hong kong govt wanted to integrate more with China themselves

hong kong govt is probably selected to be pro china since all these years

nop

TsFreddie

hong kong govt is probably selected to be pro china since all these years

Shhh

TsFreddie

hong kong govt is probably selected to be pro china since all these years

WHAAAT

16:06

I gotta tell it to the world!

TsFreddie

hong kong govt is probably selected to be pro china since all these years

NOT THAT IT WASN'T ALREADY CHIHA IF ANY SPIES ARE WATCHING

south osetia moment (edited)

Hong Kong is as China as Chinese Taipei is China which is as China as Beijing is China

CHINESE MAN CLAIMS, HONGKONG IS NOT PART OF CHINA, BUT SHOULD BE BRITISH

Learath2

Hong Kong is as China as Chinese Taipei is China which is as China as Beijing is China

that's a stretch but i wont complain

TsFreddie

that's a stretch but i wont complain

It's only the truth

Learath2

Hong Kong is as China as Chinese Taipei is China which is as China as Beijing is China

xd

btw, dont worry Freddie, U're already on the watchlist, for being unable to read chinese, properly (edited)

KEKW

1

about the two china thing. people always talk about how the taiwan china is the real one, the china china just made them run there

TsFreddie

about the two china thing. people always talk about how the taiwan china is the real one, the china china just made them run there

huh?

TsFreddie

about the two china thing. people always talk about how the taiwan china is the real one, the china china just made them run there

Choose your words carefully now

but honestly, if they didn't do a shitty job when fighting against the japanese that we nearly wouldn't exist.

taiwan china is pre china china you mean?

ok guys this might be offtopic, but network activity in windows task manager is totally useless, but nonetheless I have this online game, and when im not moving all is good ( i have 122ms ping) and all players move etc, but when I move ping goes to 4k and i get disconnects, I can type in game tho, got any ideas why is that?

zhn

taiwan china is pre china china you mean?

there are too many chinas

16:10

poggers2

TsFreddie

there are too many chinas

like pre mao china

isnt taiwan china, the dynasty true mandate of heaven china according to south chinese, while the real china china, is made of pretenders who overtrhew emperor?

zhn

like pre mao china

mao china and their china exists the same time for a while

I feel like Freddie's gonna lose 3/4 of his china bridges soon

but china like to split and change all the time i guess

zhn

taiwan china is pre china china you mean?

The government in Chinese Taipei is the Republic of China govt. The government in Beijing is the People's Republic of China

Learath2

The government in Chinese Taipei is the Republic of China govt. The government in Beijing is the People's Republic of China

they should kiss each other like brezhnev did idk

16:12

what a mess

16:12

how this became a real state of countries xd

No kiss. The rebels must be thrown into the ocean

16:13

Glory to the PRC

the rebels, make better semiconductors

16:13

so they're intellectually superior

ccp goes brrr

look at this specimen from mainland china @TsFreddie how to go below 1nm with silicone?!?!1

Overlord

the rebels, make better semiconductors

in taiwan they kill 1 chinese person in favor to make 1 processor justatest

justatest

zhn

they should kiss each other like brezhnev did idk

well to make it worse, the taiwan china coexists for a very short time with qing dinesty (edited)

its like chinese-powered cpu

zhn

in taiwan they kill 1 chinese person in favor to make 1 processor justatest

justatest

a small price to pay for shitty i3, that rusts

16:14

chinese-powered-unit

16:14

cpu

Overlord

look at this specimen from mainland china @TsFreddie how to go below 1nm with silicone?!?!1

SMIC is getting there, even without western EUV technology

which is also china but still emperorial

Overlord

a small price to pay for shitty i3, that rusts

you just ashamed a million of dead people

zhn

you just ashamed a million of dead people

sometimes people die for nothing

TsFreddie

well to make it worse, the taiwan china coexists for a very short time with qing dinesty (edited)

Wait really? I didn't know this

but you guys made me realise i should really catch up on chinese history

TsFreddie

but you guys made me realise i should really catch up on chinese history

start with 3 kingdoms

16:15

and build from there

16:15

or actually no, go with qing dynasty

Overlord

sometimes people die for nothing

feelsbadman

I should go buy some groceries. I'll buy some privately manufactured salt and alcohol

building of great wall, and bathing in quicksilver?

16:16

idk english term

Learath2

I should go buy some groceries. I'll buy some privately manufactured salt and alcohol

NO WAY

16:16

a friend of our familyl made his own alcohol and sold

Learath2

Wait really? I didn't know this

in the sense that the new govt started when they started the revolt. but it took a bit

I want to read about the Opium Wars sometime

but alas he's in jail now

16:16

U cant compete on this market

in the grand scheme of thing they just started it after they stomped on the imperial system (the gov not the unit system)

Learath2

I want to read about the Opium Wars sometime

i just went to a museum with my mom that listed all that stuff

16:18

i wasn't getting most of the things tho, i failed my middle school history pretty badly

16:18

even tho my mom is my history teacher (edited)

16:18

justatest

TsFreddie

in the grand scheme of thing they just started it after they stomped on the imperial system (the gov not the unit system)

do You know how much distance is 500 li?

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16:19

here's a pic of opium addictions

TsFreddie

i wasn't getting most of the things tho, i failed my middle school history pretty badly

I would diss Your mom, if not for the fact that I know she's cool, while U dont even know chinese!

kek

16:20

i know chinese

more like cheese

im just bad at literature (edited)

16:21

my chinese grades in school are pretty high tho.

RoC government lost because of the flag. You are not allowed to have a successful govt under a flag with more than 4 colors

Learath2

RoC government lost because of the flag. You are not allowed to have a successful govt under a flag with more than 4 colors

so Turkey's a successful goverment?

my literature is literally like how chatgpt worked. i know how to sound epic and knowledged but i don't really know what im talking about, but the graders can read it and think it is very deep and beautiful

16:22

justatest

TsFreddie

my literature is literally like how chatgpt worked. i know how to sound epic and knowledged but i don't really know what im talking about, but the graders can read it and think it is very deep and beautiful

1000 mountains, a man bear, for the future beholds his heaven

Overlord

so Turkey's a successful goverment?

It did win the war during it's establishment. If we had a 5 color flag then Turkey would be a british, french, greek colony

Image attachment

16:23

^ man - bear

i mean we also win the war so why can't we be china

Learath2

It did win the war during it's establishment. If we had a 5 color flag then Turkey would be a british, french, greek colony

bro, the flags... dont really matter much, unless U're in primary school drawing it to pass a grade, then they matter a lot

NOT THAT WE ARE NOT CHINA

and thank god mine's 50% white, so white bristol could be left empty

16:24

A2 paper

speaking of war

16:25

RoC drafted my grandpa when they were doing random drafts to fight against CCP.

Overlord

bro, the flags... dont really matter much, unless U're in primary school drawing it to pass a grade, then they matter a lot

Look at the flags with more than 4 colors and tell me if you spot any successful ones. It must be because of the flag. Correlation is definitely causation

then my grandpa was captured and drafted by CCP again to fight back

16:27

then he was assigned for a degree in tsinghua for his service

TsFreddie

then my grandpa was captured and drafted by CCP again to fight back

Actually literally was on both sides of the war

then the cultural revolution ruined my grandpa's status cuz his degree

Learath2

Actually literally was on both sides of the war

Uphill both ways

TsFreddie

then the cultural revolution ruined my grandpa's status cuz his degree

ABSOLUTE CINEMA

TsFreddie

then the cultural revolution ruined my grandpa's status cuz his degree

sounds like his life was uphill, all the way

and we were trying to help him claim his veteran status but they burned everything of his in the revolution

16:28

pretty sad

better not have status, than suddenly being assigned for reeducation

my grandpa says he doesn't actually fight anything tho, random drafts are literally just regular people without training, they were basically all scared cowardly

16:30

justatest

16:31

also i can never understood a word my grandpa said.

TsFreddie

my grandpa says he doesn't actually fight anything tho, random drafts are literally just regular people without training, they were basically all scared cowardly

if You read any war history related book from soldier's perspective, only psychos want to fight

16:31

some even deliberately say, they shot randomly, not trying to actually aim at the opponent

he speaks cantonese and had speech issue from strokes before

16:32

justatest

Overlord

some even deliberately say, they shot randomly, not trying to actually aim at the opponent

sadge

16:35

but i guess it is true. my grandpas are cantonese and northeaster, my grandmas are from shandong and hebei

16:35

wait does that mean my mom thinks local kids are more inbred than i am.

KEKW

2

16:36

pepeW

TsFreddie

wait does that mean my mom thinks local kids are more inbred than i am.

gave me good laugh

she literally said local kids can be dumb

what ages does she teach?

middle schoolers

16:44

maybe 12 to 15?

16:44

or 10 to 14

16:44

probably not that different eitherway

16:45

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Whoah, chinese flavoured crisps

risu

Whoah, chinese flavoured crisps

how many poor chinese people are sacrificed for 1 pack worth of flavour? justatest

justatest

brownbear

1

at least one: me

pepesadhug

1

16:58

cuz lay's crisps always drys my mouth and it make me die inside a little bit every time i have it.

can confirm as authorized fan of salt and vinegar spice

i bought this cuz it is a limited edition so i might as well just at least try it

16:59

we dont have salt and vinegar anything

16:59

i had it in the US once and threw up

xD

but when i was in the UK, i began to like it

TsFreddie

we dont have salt and vinegar anything

govrnement protecting people from it

now i just cant have it anymore cuz it doesn't exist here

can send you some if you crave them

17:00

xD

i can import them for 5x the price per bag

17:00

not worth it

17:00

justatest

for me its 1,30 euro for a big bag

17:01

justatest

risu

Whoah, chinese flavoured crisps

reminds me of CPU

17:01

chinese flavoured chips, chinese powered units

Image attachment

17:02

37.9cny

fucking expensive!

17:02

insane

imported goods are expensive in china

17:03

we might have higher import taxes but im not sure

17:05

yep higher than most european countries and japan and the us

17:05

although hongkong and macao literally doesn't have import taxes wtf

17:05

justatest

17:06

hongkong people are eating good

TsFreddie

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4x the normal price is wild

our normal chips are like 10cny

17:07

about the same as yours

TsFreddie

hongkong people are eating good

marine cities ausually eat good

TsFreddie

our normal chips are like 10cny

ah then its ok, still crazy that imported ones cost that much there is it caused by laws or smth

taxes

feelsbadman

1

i knew learning how to evade them won't go to waste

17:10

justatest

17:10

(joking obviously)

THEY ARE WATCHING

THEY ARE COMING

I'M COMING

HE'S COMING

Has anyone ever run linux inside vanilla minecraft?

19:13

It's really hard to google that somehow

wdym ? running linux with redstone ?

...

pilonpl

Has anyone ever run linux inside vanilla minecraft?

turns out Linux is pretty big I don't think you can run it in block game

With commands

19:25

I don't know how to google that

19:25

But if it's possible in scratch it's possible in Minecraft i think

even if it is it will take a long time to make

Well idk not really?

19:26

Maybe someone would like to try

19:26

I am not sure if i would be able to do that alone lol

19:27

And like scratch might still be faster than minecraft (edited)

19:29

I could try making a virtual machine in C or something tho

19:29

How hard could it be?

19:30

I've made chip-8 interpreter before

19:30

That's at least some experience

Reading about type inference makes me feel stupider than a fucking brick pepeW

pepeW

Whaaat?

pilonpl

Has anyone ever run linux inside vanilla minecraft?

people have made tiny calculators/games with redstone, linux might just take up the entire world and take years to run command blocks/datapacks are much more capable and faster in comparison, but coding in them is also a huge pain and people have made "tv mods" that let you place a monitor block and itll just show whatever a computer can do

I am specifically interested in running Linux using commands

20:05

Idk if anyone has done that

this is the closest thing to a vanilla tv

I Finally Built a WORKING TV in Minecraft!

pilonpl

Idk if anyone has done that

someone made "discord" with commands, but commands arent that popular

20:06

all ive seen on yt are redstone builds and mods

Yeah i guess

20:06

So if i were to run linux in minecraft i would be first to do so?

20:07

I feel like that's entirely possible

20:07

If scratch is possible why not minecraft?

ig yeah

20:08

youd be the first

All is needed is risc-v emulation i think

20:11

That's how linux in scratch works i think

hi from 10km above ground

20:15

landing in 1h after 13h

https://youtu.be/J-pqkfwiVgQ

Why this Square is ACTUALLY a Circle!

20:26

This is honestly such an awesome video

20:26

I never thought about circles this way

pilonpl

https://youtu.be/J-pqkfwiVgQ

I knew it will come to the grid of waffle machine

20:39

But I thought it will surprise me like the question about triangle with 3 90° angles

Is this just a video about distance metrics?

Yeah

21:33

I guess

21:33

But that circle thing changes everything

21:33

Btw i can't sleep

21:33

Because i keep thinking about animations

21:33

More specifically how stuff like manim can work

21:34

Because it's not really that obvious how you would actually implement something like that

I didn't do AoC today, will probably try catching up tomorrow, but now I think I'll just sleep

I spent way too much time debugging today

21:35

It was kinda a nightmare for no good reason

I'm not sure if I should approach it like a game or like a serious project

21:36

On the one hand I should take it seriously because challenges are meant to be challenging and I'm sure to learn something no matter how esoteric that knowledge is

21:36

On the other hand it's really tiring me out

It's like homework but it's actually fun and interesting and you want to do it without anyone forcing you to do it. As a consequence of that it feels like you're not doing any learning because learning is expected to be boring for some reason. (edited)

21:39

Like literally if something is fun i don't consider it actual work

I don't quite agree with what you said about learning, I'd say there's generally little correlation between how fun something is and how educational it is

21:40

don't know where you got the expectation that it's supposed to be boring

Idk, school?

Maybe my issue is that I never considered school my primary place of learning

21:42

learning is just a thing that happens when you do things

Well yeah makes sense. Everything is so boring at school

21:43

It's incredible how even interesting topics somehow are presented in the most boring way possible

I'm not one to praise my school experience or anything but I don't get this thing people say about school ruining topics for them

I wouldn't say school ruins anything for me it's just might not help much

if a topic is interesting it's interesting and if it's not it's not

pilonpl

I wouldn't say school ruins anything for me it's just might not help much

now this I can agree with

Finding connection between seemingly unrelated things is a really important thing but schools in poland just ignore that entirely

I think schools in general kinda fail at that before higher education

And all lessons are literally the same 99% of the time

21:47

Just sitting and writing stuff

21:47

Like wtf

21:48

Kids are excited when they go outside during a lesson

pilonpl

Just sitting and writing stuff

It's only natural! People encode information as sequences of symbols

People just learn to predict next tokens

I'm talking about external information storage of course

21:49

internally the structure is much more nebulous

21:49

but most of our academic I/O is sequences of symbols

It's amazing how much stuff it's possible to remember

21:50

And yet it's really easy to forget stuff too

21:51

100 digits of pi is a really fun thing to memorize btw

21:51

It sounds impressive as hell

21:51

But it's actually really easy (edited)

Would it be harder or easier to memorize a sequence of 100 random words?

risu

Would it be harder or easier to memorize a sequence of 100 random words?

depends what your brain sucks easier

risu

Would it be harder or easier to memorize a sequence of 100 random words?

Definitely easier

corresponding sequence of numbers or not related words which you need to make "history and corellation" from them

I assigned a word to each 2 digit number

21:55

And then pi is just a sequence of those numbers

21:55

Which corresponds to a sequence of words

21:55

Or more generically ideas

21:56

Which are very easy to remember

21:56

So yeah 100 digits is 50 words and that anyone can manage

21:57

And you can easily extend that to 1000 digits i guess (edited)

21:57

Although i haven't tried

21:58

It would be insane

21:59

And like to be fair i probably can't get all 100 digits correctly first time (edited)

22:00

But it's easy to relearn it in a few tries

Ok it took me 5 tries to get it without any mistakes

22:14

It's honestly incredible how intuitive the numbers feel

22:14

At least for the most part

22:15

6 and 9 are problematic tbh

22:15

Because those are way to similar

22:15

And i can say that 9 looks like a snail kinda if you rotate it right 90°

22:16

But 6 also looks like that if you rotate it left

22:16

Probably a bad decision to assign numbers based on looks in this particular case

risu

Would it be harder or easier to memorize a sequence of 100 random words?

Depends, if U use memory cards method (in brain) then not hard at all

22:42

U can teach urself better memory

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