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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 01:16
norming
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 01:46
home is suddenly cold
01:46
i feel terrible rn
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TsFreddie
norming
Overlord 2024-12-07 02:14
Very early one
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TsFreddie
i feel terrible rn
Overlord 2024-12-07 02:14
Stay hot
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Nixus🔥 2024-12-07 04:03
$Kog
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DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 04:03
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Nixus🔥 2024-12-07 04:03
$kog
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$kog
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Palestinian 2024-12-07 04:50
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDPoVlVN7Z2/?igsh=MWEydTlrcjdrcm1nMQ==
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In a scene that proves the brutality and bloodiness of the Israeli occupation... A school sheltering a large number of displaced people was targeted... The first part of the video shows the bombing of several tents and the fall of several martyrs and injured. The other part of the video shows the bombing of tents again, killing everyone and burn...
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The most cowardly army in the world.. He fights those who do not carry weapons and flees those who do.
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:04
$fng
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DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:04
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:04
hm
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used /add auto-response
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:04
"fng" and response "test" added to the database.
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:05
fng
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fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:05
test
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:05
$fng
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DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:05
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$fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:05
test
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:05
oh
05:05
does it respond every time i say fng
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Sans
does it respond every time i say fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:05
test
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:05
yes...
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 05:05
spam
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:06
@TsFreddie i cant remove it, there's no command
05:06
XD
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used /add auto-response
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:06
"fng" and response "null" added to the database.
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:07
fng
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fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:07
null
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:07
i guess i can edit it
05:07
@murpi help ZTcry
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 05:07
well
05:07
ye, murpi time
05:09
if people suddenly started talking about fng in general that would be hilarious
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TsFreddie
if people suddenly started talking about fng in general that would be hilarious
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:09
null
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:09
uhhh
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used /add auto-response
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 05:09
"fng" and response "🍉" added to the database.
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Sans 2024-12-07 05:09
there
05:09
when in doubt: melon
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 07:41
fng
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fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 07:41
null
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むぎ 2024-12-07 07:41
fng
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むぎ
fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 07:41
null
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Mirfay 2024-12-07 07:49
fng
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Mirfay
fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 07:49
null
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Mirfay 2024-12-07 07:49
norming (edited)
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-07 07:50
fng
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Mirfay 2024-12-07 07:51
i love fng :9
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i love fng :9
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 07:51
null
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Mirfay 2024-12-07 07:51
bad bot
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bad bot
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 07:51
Sowwy :c
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Mirfay 2024-12-07 07:51
🙂
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 08:08
justatest if murpi not shows up before bot spam in we riot.
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meloƞ 2024-12-07 08:19
Fng
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meloƞ
Fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 08:19
null
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meloƞ 2024-12-07 08:19
Melon
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brownbear
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Sans 2024-12-07 08:24
what have i done OhNo
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 08:30
you've done funny and there would be funny consequences.
08:30
ultimately it's kinda murpi's fault for the having that one there tho.
08:31
as long as we don't say fng then everything is fine (edited)
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TsFreddie
as long as we don't say fng then everything is fine (edited)
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 08:31
null
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 08:31
oh shit
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Skeith 2024-12-07 08:43
I'm an FNG mod, I get to at least have one as well (edited)
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I'm an FNG mod, I get to at least have one as well (edited)
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 08:43
null
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Skeith 2024-12-07 08:44
greenthing
08:45
also WTF SANS!!!!!!!!! (I blame murpi) (edited)
08:45
troll
08:46
maybe 2
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fng
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fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 08:46
null
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Overlord 2024-12-07 09:11
Guys You can always write Ur message and then edit fng later (edited)
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used /add auto-response
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:29
"fng" and response "melon" added to the database.
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used /add auto-response
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:29
"fng" and response "melon 🍉" added to the database.
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Sans 2024-12-07 09:29
fng
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fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:29
melon
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Sans 2024-12-07 09:30
ok emotes dont work
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used /add auto-response
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:30
"fng" and response "🍉" added to the database.
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Sans 2024-12-07 09:30
fng
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DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:30
melon
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Sans 2024-12-07 09:30
well
09:30
@meloƞ it's ur time to shine now
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meloƞ 2024-12-07 09:30
oh no
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 09:35
what if I sayfngwithout space
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TsFreddie
what if I sayfngwithout space
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:35
melon
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 09:35
bruh
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 09:37
fng
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fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:37
melon
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 09:37
fnger
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fnger
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 09:37
melon
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 09:38
lol
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Overlord 2024-12-07 09:38
N....ice (edited)
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Zwelf 2024-12-07 09:42
random tees everywhere
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Overlord 2024-12-07 09:46
Das ist cool
09:47
Now make one with tank skin
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Zwelf 2024-12-07 09:53
Appently this is hiw tees are made
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meloƞ 2024-12-07 09:54
poggers2
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 09:58
Sweet
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Zwelf
Appently this is hiw tees are made
risu 2024-12-07 10:00
What are twinbops made of? Sugar and spice and everything nice!
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:01
more like brownbear but upside down
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tee in godot btw greenthing
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godot's animation tool suck ass tho. i might need to do everything in blender
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:05
HOT
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can't wait for VR
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:05
nouis
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i'm more thinking about kirby air ride but tw
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:06
just make sure to add a VR camera 😬
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:06
😬
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says the man just bought a vr headset
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:06
not even me, just my bro xd
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:06
you can hack vr into almost every game you know?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:07
yeah, hogwarts was the most impressive yet
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:08
but tbh for general game conversion, i'm more excited about valve's new standalone headsets tho, they are allegedly auto converting game onto a virtual 3D screen in VR.
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Jupstar ✪
not even me, just my bro xd
TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:08
greenthing but do you now believe VR is kinda like, you really need to try it to know why it is cool.
10:09
amogus lots of people don't believe that.
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TsFreddie
amogus lots of people don't believe that.
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:09
yep 100% and a modern vr headset is important too
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the ones from 10 years ago were shit xd
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:10
well i had the first vive, it was also cool back then.
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pepeW the controller sucks tho
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:10
i tried one once in a local store when the first hype came, but it wasn't that impressive back then xd
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:10
kekw
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:11
but these new ones with the new lenses have a relatively high FOV, which is probably very important for the immersion
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:11
i might wait a bit more for valve to do anything before i commit to facebook
10:11
i have a quest 2 which is servicable for now
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Overlord 2024-12-07 10:12
Can You use VR as a screen and still play mouse and keyboard?
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:12
nothing is stopping you from doing that
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Overlord
Can You use VR as a screen and still play mouse and keyboard?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:12
but honestly, u cant wear these headsets for very long
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:12
most of the time you can still using your PC if you want
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:12
imo at least
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Jupstar ✪
but honestly, u cant wear these headsets for very long
Overlord 2024-12-07 10:13
Weight? Or tired eyes?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:13
it's just the immersion that is superb
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Overlord
Weight? Or tired eyes?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:13
actually both + your brain also doesnt like it xd
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Jupstar ✪
but honestly, u cant wear these headsets for very long
TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:13
unless it's bigscreen beyond
10:13
kek
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Jupstar ✪
actually both + your brain also doesnt like it xd
Overlord 2024-12-07 10:13
I dont have one, so its just weight i guess
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:13
weight is defs an important factor
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Jupstar ✪
weight is defs an important factor
Overlord 2024-12-07 10:14
Do U wear glasses tho?
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:14
i think i would be down to have a half tethered standalone where it is just two lens and a screen on your head and you just carry the processors somewhere else
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maybe on a belt or something (edited)
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Overlord
Do U wear glasses tho?
TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:14
i wear glasses with my quest 2
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Overlord
Do U wear glasses tho?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 10:15
no xd
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:15
it did scratched my quest 2 lenses pretty badly tho
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TsFreddie
i wear glasses with my quest 2
Overlord 2024-12-07 10:15
H-h-how? Is there so much space? Also do glasses even work at that distance?
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no xd
Overlord 2024-12-07 10:15
No wonder U arent used to weight
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:15
but you can buy in headset prescriptions
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Overlord
H-h-how? Is there so much space? Also do glasses even work at that distance?
TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:15
it does work
10:15
and there is indeed space
10:15
i wore glasses at work for every modern headsets and they are all fine
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Overlord 2024-12-07 10:16
Dayum
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:16
pancake or fresnel
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Overlord 2024-12-07 10:16
Thats dope a lot of people dont want to / cant wear eye lenses
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TsFreddie
pancake or fresnel
Overlord 2024-12-07 10:16
Sad instant noodle
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:16
it is a lot comfortable without glasses tho
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also glasses kinda reduces your fov too
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TsFreddie
it is a lot comfortable without glasses tho
Overlord 2024-12-07 10:17
Life is a lot more comfortable without glasses
10:17
Im lucky enough to function without them despite wearing em 75% of my life
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:17
greenthing but again, just buy prescription lenses for your headset, they do make those
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Overlord 2024-12-07 10:17
First one gotta buy a headset
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 10:25
@risu does this mean anything to you
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TsFreddie
@risu does this mean anything to you
risu 2024-12-07 10:30
Not really Am I missing out?
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:31
What's the difference between jbl tune 110 and jbl tune 290?
10:31
Both look pretty much the same but the price difference is big
10:32
Although both options are cheap
10:32
How am i supposed to choose lol
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pilonpl
How am i supposed to choose lol
risu 2024-12-07 10:33
Don't choose JBL greenthing
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:33
Ok
10:33
What should i choose?
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risu 2024-12-07 10:33
something nice
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:33
I guess i should also look into wireless options
10:33
But those are kinda expensive
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risu 2024-12-07 10:33
no no no wired is the way
10:34
spend the price of nice wireless headphones on wired headphones instead :) :) :)
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I'm a good audio appreciator :P
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:35
I don't even know if i am looking for headphones or earphones which go inside the ear
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Because it's best have both
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TsFreddie
@risu does this mean anything to you
OMG win10$ Evolution 2024-12-07 10:41
enjoy your meal
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:46
I guess wireless earbuds are quite convenient
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But those cost like 400 pln minimum i think
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risu 2024-12-07 10:47
POLISH LAD SPOTTED
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wait no?
10:48
no I'm high, yes Polish
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pilonpl
I don't even know if i am looking for headphones or earphones which go inside the ear
risu 2024-12-07 10:49
you can get surprisingly good IEMs for surprisingly little money, look it up you can get some magical Chinese product that costs nothing yet sounds great
10:49
only problem being that you of course need to tolerate IEMs
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:50
What the hell are IEMs lol
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risu 2024-12-07 10:50
in-ear monitors
10:51
a specific kind of earbuds, they're called monitors because they were originally designed for stage performance
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(in case you don't know, monitors are speakers that face the performers so they can better hear what they're playing)
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:52
Ok
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That's interesting
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risu 2024-12-07 10:52
You should also look up IEDs, highly recommend
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 10:53
Improvised Explosive Devices??
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pilonpl
Improvised Explosive Devices??
risu 2024-12-07 10:53
Yes :)
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Not really Am I missing out?
TsFreddie 2024-12-07 11:16
curry
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curry
risu 2024-12-07 11:17
What is the red stuff? It looks like half cooked ground beef
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 11:18
just rice
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different grains
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risu 2024-12-07 11:27
we don't have magical red rice like that
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no I'm high, yes Polish
Overlord 2024-12-07 11:32
Hi high, its in the name
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Overlord
Hi high, its in the name
risu 2024-12-07 11:32
Huh. So it would seem.
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TsFreddie
@risu does this mean anything to you
oxyzo 2024-12-07 11:33
that just looks like almost raw grounded beef
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oxyzo
that just looks like almost raw grounded beef
risu 2024-12-07 11:34
@TsFreddie See, it's not just me who doesn't recognize your magical red rice!
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Overlord 2024-12-07 11:34
It also looks like grenate(fruit) seeds
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Overlord
It also looks like grenate(fruit) seeds
risu 2024-12-07 11:46
I believe you're talking about pomegranate
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risu
I believe you're talking about pomegranate
Overlord 2024-12-07 11:49
No, im talking about shell grenate
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This explodes and bleeds everything in radius
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meloƞ 2024-12-07 11:50
pomegranate are so damn tasty
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i often make pancakes with pomegranate on top
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*>Maciek<* 2024-12-07 11:52
Can you make me some?
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Overlord
Click to see attachment 🖼️
risu 2024-12-07 11:52
you literally posted pictures of pomegranates
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meloƞ
i often make pancakes with pomegranate on top
zhn 2024-12-07 11:53
pancakes with pomegranate?
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risu 2024-12-07 11:53
"grenate" is not an English word Wiktionary tells me that "grenate" is Old French for pomegranate
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meloƞ 2024-12-07 11:53
well you make jam out of it first
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risu
you literally posted pictures of pomegranates
Overlord 2024-12-07 11:58
To fool You
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meloƞ
i often make pancakes with pomegranate on top
Overlord 2024-12-07 11:58
So U munch on those seeds huh
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risu
"grenate" is not an English word Wiktionary tells me that "grenate" is Old French for pomegranate
Overlord 2024-12-07 11:58
Insult me however U want, but dont associate me with french speakers
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cyberfighter 2 2024-12-07 11:58
ugly ass fruit
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Overlord 2024-12-07 12:08
Never seen, the fruit of ass, but have seen eggs
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 12:14
i hate this fruit because of the seeds
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plus its juice won't wash off your clothes easily at all
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or hands even
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or hands even
Overlord 2024-12-07 12:15
Isnt it normal, to have blood of Ur prey on thy hands?
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And it hard being to wash, makes U remember how important it is to eat it all and not waste any!
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 12:16
try opening it without breaking at least 1 piece inside
12:16
mission impossible
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 12:16
i like pomegranate juice
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pomegranate not so much
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pepeW
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 12:17
juice is alright
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cyberfighter 2 2024-12-07 12:17
no pomegranates allowed
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Skibidisigma 2024-12-07 12:17
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Click to see original message
Gobrox 2024-12-07 12:18
banger
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banger
Skibidisigma 2024-12-07 12:18
Wut?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 12:19
Mixi hears more annoying music tbh
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Skibidisigma 2024-12-07 12:20
@Solly why u cry
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banhammer 1
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Jupstar ✪
Mixi hears more annoying music tbh
Skibidisigma 2024-12-07 12:21
xd
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Why ban
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@Solly
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feelsbadman
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 12:23
@meloƞ
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meloƞ 2024-12-07 12:26
/ban ♂S1mple♂ 0 --hide_message --permanant --remove_points
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SHIT
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♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 12:28
duckswing
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meloƞ
/ban ♂S1mple♂ 0 --hide_message --permanant --remove_points
Skibidisigma 2024-12-07 12:28
Wtf
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Derek 2024-12-07 12:52
Celebrating my tee birthday earlier this year, and drinking until it’s the day (10days to go)
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むぎ 2024-12-07 13:01
wtf~2
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:09
thoughts for day 7 performance?
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Teero 2024-12-07 13:17
@Solly I'm gonna make you cry
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Look
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I cried too
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Solly 2024-12-07 13:17
not mx kiwi!
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Sans 2024-12-07 13:29
fng
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fng
DDNet BOT 2024-12-07 13:29
melon
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Sans 2024-12-07 13:30
@murpi pls
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murpi 2024-12-07 13:31
Ney!
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Feature is still in alpha, early access costs $30
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oxyzo 2024-12-07 13:36
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pilonpl
thoughts for day 7 performance?
risu 2024-12-07 13:36
My part 2 also takes 6 seconds but I've been feeling lazy about fixing it... I was thinking I'd filter the intermediate results to get rid of the ones that have grown bigger than the target, but I got myself stuck in a tangle of functions again...
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:36
I don't think that would help that much anyways
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Since the main problem is that there can be 100k of combinations to enumerate through
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risu 2024-12-07 13:37
I would want to write a function of the type (c -> d -> e) -> (a -> b -> c) -> (a -> b -> d) -> a -> b -> e to solve that tangle but even that is a bit of an ask
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Learath2 2024-12-07 13:38
I didn't do any advent of code this year. Are the tasks interesting?
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risu 2024-12-07 13:39
Another speedup would be to not convert to string, concatenate, and convert back to int, but instead do the concatenation with simple math, however, that isn't exactly trivial either considering my constraints (basically I'm worried that finding the power of ten would be slower than just taking the hit of string concatenation because iteration can be really bad in this)
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:39
Well you should just look a them and judge by yourself but i think day 6 and 7 are interesting
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risu 2024-12-07 13:40
I cheated day 6 just now, wrote a Lua solution to part 2 so I could get the star
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maybe I'll come back to the Haskell solution later...
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Lua solution isn't fast btw, takes like 8.5 seconds to run
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:42
Wow how is that even possible
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Like sure C is fast but my algorithm was the most naive one and it ran in 100ms
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risu 2024-12-07 13:43
risu@canopy:advent2024$ hyperfine "luajit 6x.lua < input/6.txt" Benchmark 1: luajit 6x.lua < input/6.txt Time (mean ± σ): 8.755 s ± 0.121 s [User: 7.903 s, System: 0.823 s] Range (min … max): 8.514 s … 8.994 s 10 runs
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Another speedup would be to not convert to string, concatenate, and convert back to int, but instead do the concatenation with simple math, however, that isn't exactly trivial either considering my constraints (basically I'm worried that finding the power of ten would be slower than just taking the hit of string concatenation because iteration can be really bad in this)
Learath2 2024-12-07 13:44
mh, the string -> int will iterate internally too, so it should be equal or better
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though I guess string -> int is very optimized nowadays, their loop might be tighter
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risu 2024-12-07 13:46
I mean, string libraries do a bunch of fancy stuff to handle special symbols, and adding numbers is much faster than concatenating lists, so from that point of view the math approach should be much faster
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:47
I wonder if maybe using 64 bit integers is slower
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But i doubt makes that much of a difference
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though I guess string -> int is very optimized nowadays, their loop might be tighter
risu 2024-12-07 13:48
but I'm definitely not going to be writing an efficient tight loop, it'll be like a mess of five different higher order functions, so I find it quite likely that the string approach is faster
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Learath2 2024-12-07 13:49
Well idk the task but it's not too hard to write a loop to concat two numbers. Maybe just give it a try? I'm curious now 🙃
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Compilers are pretty good at optimizing simple loops like that
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Ah but you are doing lua. No compiler to help
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Learath2
Compilers are pretty good at optimizing simple loops like that
risu 2024-12-07 13:50
What I'm telling you is that I am literally incapable of writing a normal simple loop given my restrictions
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Learath2
Ah but you are doing lua. No compiler to help
risu 2024-12-07 13:50
The real problem is the Haskell solution
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Learath2 2024-12-07 13:50
Ah weird functional language moment
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risu 2024-12-07 13:50
the giga jank Haskell solution with self-imposed extra limitations
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:51
Even assembly would be easier
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pilonpl
Even assembly would be easier
risu 2024-12-07 13:51
unironically and wholeheartedly
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ask me yesterday and I WISH I was writing assembly
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Learath2 2024-12-07 13:52
OH maybe I should try x86 assembly this year
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:52
Roller coaster tycoon was written in assembly somehow
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I guess a lot of macros?
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And people say the game was optimized because it was written in assembly
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But that's just incorrect information that gets duplicated a lot i think
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Because it makes literally 0 sense
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I would want to write a function of the type (c -> d -> e) -> (a -> b -> c) -> (a -> b -> d) -> a -> b -> e to solve that tangle but even that is a bit of an ask
risu 2024-12-07 13:54
I live in abstraction hell this Christmas. Note how the function signature I mentioned here takes as arguments three different functions, and every single argument and return type is generic (edited)
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And people say the game was optimized because it was written in assembly
Learath2 2024-12-07 13:56
Yeah it's very unlikely you can hand-roll assembly that is perfect. That's why nowadays it's only good to do very specific small parts in assembly
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Though back in the day developers were lucky that cpus still worked more as one would expect
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pilonpl
Like sure C is fast but my algorithm was the most naive one and it ran in 100ms
risu 2024-12-07 13:57
Maybe I could rewrite mine in C++ just to see, at this point that'd be a breeze
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Learath2 2024-12-07 13:57
With todays 17 deep pipelines and out of order speculative execution, it's really hard to predict performance just by looking at the code
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:58
And why is it even necessary? Couldn't that somehow be baked into the program itself?
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pilonpl
And why is it even necessary? Couldn't that somehow be baked into the program itself?
risu 2024-12-07 13:59
Point is compatibility
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 13:59
It's weird how much stuff CPUs just do automatically (edited)
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risu 2024-12-07 13:59
They can keep making their CPUs as wacky as they want and don't have to care about backwards compatibility internally, just the instruction set is the same
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pilonpl
And why is it even necessary? Couldn't that somehow be baked into the program itself?
Learath2 2024-12-07 14:00
Well without pipelining atleast you are wasting more than half the cpu at all times. No amount of software trickery can let you use those parts
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risu 2024-12-07 14:00
Even if they exposed more of their advanced functionality and you wrote code to make use of that, your code would be kinda useless on CPUs a couple generations forwards
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Learath2 2024-12-07 14:00
Speculative execution you can't mimic either, it's the cpu just executing ahead
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I guess you could expose an even deeper instruction set that allowed you to reprogram the control unit itself telling it when to fetch what instruction 😄
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:02
It probably just doesn't make much sense to create a whole other way of writing programs
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Which is sad
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I wonder when we will get quantum computers
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I heard that they can magically reduce the time complexity of problems
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Palestinian 2024-12-07 14:04
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The moon
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risu 2024-12-07 14:08
ok I think I found the big issue with my lua code a table of tables is slow to index, I should flatten it to a 1D array
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murpi
Feature is still in alpha, early access costs $30
meloƞ 2024-12-07 14:18
that explains how you got all these POE2 keys!
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oxyzo
Click to see attachment 🖼️
♂S1mple♂ 2024-12-07 14:20
NKSucks
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risu
ok I think I found the big issue with my lua code a table of tables is slow to index, I should flatten it to a 1D array
risu 2024-12-07 14:28
ah hell I did that and it's approximately 0% faster
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Switching my direction value from a lua-style enum to an integer helped a little bit
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 14:33
catbite
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 14:40
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risu 2024-12-07 14:40
Supposedly 77% of my time is spent on line 77: if bound_checker(guard_x + dx, guard_y + dy, width, height) and map[(guard_y + dy - 1) * width + guard_x + dx] then (edited)
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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO OPTIMIZE THIS
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Inlining bound_checker won't help because the profiler tells me that I spend about 10% of the time in that function
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HOW IS A LIST ACCESS LIKE 60% OF MY EXECUTION TIME?!
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gotta love high level languages
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TsFreddie 2024-12-07 14:44
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Supposedly 77% of my time is spent on line 77: if bound_checker(guard_x + dx, guard_y + dy, width, height) and map[(guard_y + dy - 1) * width + guard_x + dx] then (edited)
risu 2024-12-07 14:47
@pilonpl help me optimize this troll
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:48
this is lua i suppose
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idk
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maybe your map is a hash map
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risu
HOW IS A LIST ACCESS LIKE 60% OF MY EXECUTION TIME?!
zhn 2024-12-07 14:49
because it's a list :D
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pilonpl
maybe your map is a hash map
risu 2024-12-07 14:49
Yes, every Lua table is a hash map
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:50
i think arrays are actual arrays
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zhn 2024-12-07 14:50
what runtime ur using btw?
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risu 2024-12-07 14:51
Except it supposedly makes sequentially indexed tables into something more like vectors automatically
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zhn
what runtime ur using btw?
risu 2024-12-07 14:51
LuaJIT
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:51
wow
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jit
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idk
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risu
Except it supposedly makes sequentially indexed tables into something more like vectors automatically
risu 2024-12-07 14:52
Maybe the key is getting it to perform this optimization, since best guess is that it's not happening right now
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zhn 2024-12-07 14:52
try out LJR, if its still maintained
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:53
or just C
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zhn 2024-12-07 14:53
yep
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:53
its shouldnt be too hard
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pilonpl
its shouldnt be too hard
risu 2024-12-07 14:54
No but doing AoC with serious tools is no fun
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:54
how is lua not serious?
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i really enjoy using lua
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risu 2024-12-07 14:54
Not as serious as C
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pilonpl
i really enjoy using lua
zhn 2024-12-07 14:55
oh seems you have your place in the hell :D
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risu 2024-12-07 14:55
But yeah I too wish it had more respect
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 14:55
lua is nice
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i even made minecraft model exporter in lua
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and i learned a lot
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like how obj files work
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zhn 2024-12-07 14:58
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/154672/what-can-i-do-to-increase-the-performance-of-a-lua-program
What can I do to increase the performance of a Lua program?
I asked a question about Lua perfromance, and on of the responses asked: Have you studied general tips for keeping Lua performance high? i.e. know table creation and rather reuse a table than cr...
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funny tips xd
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 15:04
tbh its best not to use lua for stuff that needs good performance
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but you can run C from lua
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and lua from C
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so it's still a great language for a lot of stuff (edited)
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i think lua scripts would be great to have in ddnet
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to create bots
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which are illegal anyways on official servers lol
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risu
risu@canopy:advent2024$ hyperfine "luajit 6x.lua < input/6.txt" Benchmark 1: luajit 6x.lua < input/6.txt Time (mean ± σ): 8.755 s ± 0.121 s [User: 7.903 s, System: 0.823 s] Range (min … max): 8.514 s … 8.994 s 10 runs
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-07 15:26
now rewrite in rust
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😏
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NikHard 2024-12-07 17:31
Done
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 18:10
That's what happens when you don't pay $20 a month for the rust compiler
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Btw @risu why did you say to not buy jbl?
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pilonpl
Btw @risu why did you say to not buy jbl?
risu 2024-12-07 18:17
I had the understanding that they aren't a very respected audio brand anymore but I would have to look into that
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pilonpl 2024-12-07 18:19
So how can i choose some decent wired earphones that i can just buy at media expert or rtv euro agd or whatever
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I.K.U 2024-12-07 18:26
@jao's hairy kebab when finish take
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pilonpl
So how can i choose some decent wired earphones that i can just buy at media expert or rtv euro agd or whatever
risu 2024-12-07 18:43
Ignore my ramblings 👍👍
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ghost 2024-12-07 21:23
помогите пж
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D._4._n 2024-12-07 21:28
С чем?
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pilonpl
i think lua scripts would be great to have in ddnet
zhn 2024-12-07 21:53
check ath
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oxyzo 2024-12-07 22:31
⌤ silly symbol
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