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meloฦž
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I usually call my palico "bait"
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Moraning
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norming
05:50
really You cant eat, or pickup food while sitting?
05:50
I have been living my life wrong the enterietly of it
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 05:56
It might be crouching? I wouldn't be able to eat while crouching aswell
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no, he's sitting on a bench
06:00
the text in polish also mentions
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"you cant do that, if You're sitting"
06:01
anyway the game was better in my memory than it actually is xd
06:01
some dialoge is only spoken no subtitles - translation
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Overlord
"you cant do that, if You're sitting"
โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 06:07
Yeah i can tell cuz i know 2 slavic languages
06:07
It kinda feels silly that i can understand the whole thing (edited)
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I usually play games either in original or english, but I have already played 50-60% of the game in engliosh once few yearsa go
06:09
but yeah, could probably manage in czech, but afaik "zapomnij" in russian means remember, while in polish it means forget
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 06:10
Is it?
06:10
That's funny
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im not 100% sure but I would like confirmation
06:11
I can conirm that in pl "zapomnij" means forget it / forget
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 06:11
Yeah in russian it means remember
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then yeah stuff could lose a lot of contextg
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 06:12
Though, if you only know russian you won't be able to understand the whole sentence like one you sent
06:13
Zrobic isn't a word in russian for example
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12 or so years ago, an ukrainian pair of veterinarians was a t my home (apprently they know my parents) and they could understand me 99% but I could only get them 50% (tho i was a youngster back then)
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 06:15
That's interesting
06:15
It might be affected by Cyrillic/Latin language type?
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maybe, but there are these 2 guys who show scams in Prague in Czech Reublic
06:16
and apparently they also have channel where they speak czech
06:16
would be good comparison to first watch in czech, then in english
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 06:19
Ahoj
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are we going into sea shanties territory now?
06:19
justatest
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 06:19
Idk
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well then 30% of sea shanties in PL, are just eng covers translated into eng
06:20
but thankfully there are some who actually try, which not always works but sometimes does nicely
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Insanity
bad is that u didnt even ping me angryaticeboundtie
kek ganyuHeart
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was adding mutex to fix some race condition in ddnet
06:40
then i realize i'm probably not qualified
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kekw
06:41
and it's 2:40pm i still haven't cooked myself a lunch
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oof
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TsFreddie
and it's 2:40pm i still haven't cooked myself a lunch
Freddie cooke, this is a proof, that easily accessible bad food should be bannrd
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me hungie
06:58
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wok
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Is that minced meat?
07:03
Also he is starting to turn chinese D:
07:05
don't mind me, just eating a plate of rice
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Overlord
Is that minced meat?
mom preprepared the mince
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still living with mom?
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TsFreddie
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That rella must love rice
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just started living with mom
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Freddie origin story
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i mean i did quit my job without other income
07:08
no way i'm still renting
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Jobless masterrace!
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u lucky to have parents to live with
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justatest
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isnt there like unemployed salary thing
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not if i havent been emploeed for five years
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maybe thats just ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ
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altho here u only get the unemployed salary if they fire you
07:11
if you quit voluntary not iirc
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i also i believe you waive that if you quit yourself? maybe. idk
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altho a lot of companies may think you into quitting urself
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but dotn
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dont
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its pretty common here to drive people away instead of firing
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1. its very hard for a company to proof that they fired you justifiably
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I quit myself so im also not eligible for free money ( i think? Maybe am but not bothering) but its good to register in EU to have health insurance in case something happens (but im not registering)
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so u can sue them and u 99% of times win
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TsFreddie
its pretty common here to drive people away instead of firing
How do they go about it? (edited)
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TsFreddie
its pretty common here to drive people away instead of firing
but i think its a culture thing there
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i can probably sue my last last employer for oweing me 80000cny salary
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do it
07:12
its retarded to not do it
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nah
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Sounds like 20k dollars
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too lazy
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my god
07:13
cammostripes
07:13
ur a lost cause
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Sue them and gift cash to mom
07:13
Afterall she now minces meat for U
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also they had 15 employees not being paid, no one is doing it
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Idk about china but in US legal battle might be more expensive than payout
07:14
In europe if U fail its only 10% of what U are suing for
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By europe i mean poland
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here a lawyer mostly looks ur case a bit beforehand and decides whether to accept it or not
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also even if i did all they can do is bankrupt the company and auction all their assets for debts, i think salaries comes last
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We have a lot of cases "he won but he lost" where one wins less than they pay for trial
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TsFreddie
also even if i did all they can do is bankrupt the company and auction all their assets for debts, i think salaries comes last
wat, salaries should be first
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theyll just pay off part of loans, we still wont get anything
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TsFreddie
also even if i did all they can do is bankrupt the company and auction all their assets for debts, i think salaries comes last
One menace less? Now think 1 year from now they gonna fool another 15 people
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Afk 9 min fighting mold
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@TsFreddie is ur mom home traditional chinese
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or modern
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xd
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is it like those videos
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where the pretty chinese girl cooks
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with her 500 yard house
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His mom is cool af
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We have had her pics here!
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Ddnet Tshirt model
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we are barely middle class
07:17
justatest
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TsFreddie
we are barely middle class
Barerly, because are approaching top class
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but our new home is pretty ok i guess
07:17
we got 75m^2
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i got same close
07:17
i pay like 6,985.05 chinese yen
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910โ‚ฌ
07:18
justatest
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home is like 800k i think? i couldn't quite remember
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total?
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its not my home after all
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wtf
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ye with interests of loans
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ur home costs 5kโ‚ฌ?
07:19
thats so low
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huh?
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now i understand why chinese come to spain and do a job 24/7
07:19
to send money
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Reminder that math is hard
07:19
google used japanese yen
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omg
07:20
its 104kโ‚ฌ
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i don't think cny to euro is 160 to 1
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still cheap af
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Chinese flats are similarly priced to Pl ones
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Which i bet isnt cheap for chinese because it isnt cheap here for polinese
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Ryozuki
still cheap af
well our salary is way less i guess
07:21
61m
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Localisation matters tho
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we also lives in a new area
07:21
its in the middle of not a lot
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Look up house 60km from any city and U gonna get it cheap in spin aswell
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although i guess maybe european lands are not that crowed anyway
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i wanna go a bit outside barcelona
07:22
to get a better flat for cheap
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now that i got a car
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and i only go 2 times to office
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its not that bad, but all of there are newly built and havent been sold much yet
07:23
and there are more in the work probably (edited)
07:24
07:24
got more liquid
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TsFreddie
its not that bad, but all of there are newly built and havent been sold much yet
oof u in front of highway
07:24
lovely sound
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Ryozuki
oof u in front of highway
that s a regular road
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ah xd
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we got really wide roads
07:25
especially in the new areas
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all of the cars are parking btw
07:26
they don't want to pay for parking slot and the road isn't very active.
07:26
it is open tho, cars can drive by
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kek
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don't mind me just rendering a sphere
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Ryozuki
and i only go 2 times to office
Does gf work Tho? Think about her too
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TsFreddie
its not that bad, but all of there are newly built and havent been sold much yet
Cool parking
07:43
Just to damage those rims
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we parks there too lol
07:43
it's fine
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I gotta spend 24h out of my room
07:44
Because turns out im mold too ... (mold killer kills me aswell)
07:44
God this was the biggest scam ever to change wooden window frames for silicone
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Now it would require yet another change, to the silicone ones with small vents so they can work like... wooden frames
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wow this is large
07:52
07:52
blender very stable
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TsFreddie
blender very stable
Instead of donating cash do ate code
07:54
(I wont fix this spelling mistake)
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yum
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its not symmetrical
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you mean the feet?
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idk what i'm fixing
08:29
this is not ddnet
08:31
damn it, godot doesn't have z comparisoin offset
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inverted hull is not good if i can't shift z comparison lol
ww 1
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I literally thought its gonna be empty at this hour in shopping center
09:07
I didnt account for 8 or so school trips at the same time
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do melatonin gummies usually have this many ingredients
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โ™‚S1mpleโ™‚ 2024-12-06 09:36
It doesn't look that much
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Ingredients: Uranium
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meth
09:45
camuba wax
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TsFreddie
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Sugar substitute, sugar substitute, sugar substitute, anti-anxiety thing extracted from tea, gelling agent, water, flavorant, flavorant/ph adjuster, flavorant/anti-anxiety, flavorant, vitamin b6, flavorant, ph regulator, oil, flavorant, colorant, melatonin, fragrance/flavor/anti-anxiety, oil, sweetener, thing that makes gummies look shiny
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@Learath2 do u believe in medicinal herbs
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Learath2
Sugar substitute, sugar substitute, sugar substitute, anti-anxiety thing extracted from tea, gelling agent, water, flavorant, flavorant/ph adjuster, flavorant/anti-anxiety, flavorant, vitamin b6, flavorant, ph regulator, oil, flavorant, colorant, melatonin, fragrance/flavor/anti-anxiety, oil, sweetener, thing that makes gummies look shiny
expert
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did you know that gummy bears are made from 86% bears (compressed to small size) and 69% chewed gum
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That's an impressive amount of random sugar substitutes btw. Mine just has normal sugar ๐Ÿ˜„
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Ryozuki
@Learath2 do u believe in medicinal herbs
100%, that's how we got a lot of our medicines
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@CCF could i have your entities bg? owo
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bencie
@CCF could i have your entities bg? owo
sure ill send dm
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Ryozuki
@Learath2 do u believe in medicinal herbs
Do you bekieve in herbal poisons ::P
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Look what they do with Ur brothers and sisters
11:37
@meloฦž
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Palestinian 2024-12-06 11:39
This is clearly fake
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This looks like it got a abused af
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fuck, i forgot to play games
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Overlord
Look what they do with Ur brothers and sisters
why is the name in german
11:56
guys can someone sponsor me :uwu:
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i really really need this
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meloฦž
guys can someone sponsor me :uwu:
Schon am suchten
12:01
Oha
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Palestinian 2024-12-06 12:07
Yoghurt with dates very good combination
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meloฦž
guys can someone sponsor me :uwu:
Palestinian 2024-12-06 12:08
I can.. give me 500 USD and im doin this
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meloฦž
why is the name in german
justatest
12:23
Im starting to live in some alternative reality where cashier woman small talks me
12:24
On top of the fact that i lied ( about induction cooking ) because i forgot that ferryt / iron amounts in cooking ware matter too
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Not just their volume that touches
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The whatever is the eng word for induction plate
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๐Ÿ˜ฌ i need to logon zzz asap
12:33
totally forgot about it today
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TsFreddie
๐Ÿ˜ฌ i need to logon zzz asap
I hate that every game (online) nowdays has some daily chore even if its just login press 1 button
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FOMO tactics
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it's also to keep you hooked
12:39
You don't forget about a game you HAVE to play every day. I regularly forget about league of legends and just remember I used to play months later
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Yes, a friend has 970 day streak and he wanted to go on vacation, and asked me to do that for him
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i'm starting to run out of things to do tho
12:40
i skipped one character now i kinda got no one to feed pepeW
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Because he only has two people he can trust (around 5k โ‚ฌ) account
12:41
And the other was also on holidays (edited)
12:41
I found it kinda sick ( because after 7 days U get same rewards as after 10k days)
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TsFreddie
i skipped one character now i kinda got no one to feed pepeW
Who did you skip?
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the last girl with the lightning stuff
12:41
greenthing
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Ah, I skipped Lighter for Miyabi instead
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i quit my job so i stopped whaling it
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I do hope that I get lucky on the 50/50 because I really don't have the money to hard pity twice
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i pulled for lighter just to contribute the stats a bit so they don't stop releasing guys
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TsFreddie
i pulled for lighter just to contribute the stats a bit so they don't stop releasing guys
bigbrain
12:43
I need my gay furry game to stay gay and furry.
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How long do U think the game will be supported? And does it affect Ur spending?
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mihoyo is pretty decent at this, so I'd say it should be there for atleast 6 years
12:45
I try to limit my gacha budget to about 200 euros per year, doesn't really matter which game/company though. So no doesn't really affect spending much for me
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So 3 years in, how would U feel about throwing cash at it?
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i guess lighter also kinda gave me some reason to use ben again
12:45
pepeW i miss him so much
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Learath2
I try to limit my gacha budget to about 200 euros per year, doesn't really matter which game/company though. So no doesn't really affect spending much for me
not just gacha budget, actually that's my microtransaction budget, I decide whether I gamble it or buy cosmetics ๐Ÿ™ƒ
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Learath2
not just gacha budget, actually that's my microtransaction budget, I decide whether I gamble it or buy cosmetics ๐Ÿ™ƒ
Cool should have taught me it half a year ago when i gambled 1.5k euro
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Overlord
So 3 years in, how would U feel about throwing cash at it?
Depends a lot on my mood, sometimes I'm in the mood to get anime girl pngs, sometimes not
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catxplosion @Bota stop harassing me
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Note to self: dont get into anime games
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Sometimes I'll pull OP characters too, Zhongli was busted asf in Genshin
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Overlord
Note to self: dont get into anime games
If you don't have decent self control it can get insanely out of hand very quickly
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Learath2
If you don't have decent self control it can get insanely out of hand very quickly
I have... i either dont get in or go all in... but i hate gatchas
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So there is that
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I tried these ball machines in JP and felt cheated hard
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gachas are sliiightly better than straight up gambling, because you can't chase a loss in a gacha
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all gambling machines are tunable
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you lose 100% of the money you spend on a gacha, and you are not getting it back no matter how many times you roll
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Also all the "mystery boxes" are such a crap and apparently its happening irl now in ny city, every week at sunday people buy mystery packagaes for 10-25โ‚ฌ
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Learath2
you lose 100% of the money you spend on a gacha, and you are not getting it back no matter how many times you roll
Yeah true, there is always that " i can get it back"
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Also also we are probably the last generation of impressionable youngsters to be subjected to unregulated gambling like this
12:51
It seems every country on earth is moving to ban these things
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Gachas? Or gambling
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Do they? i feel its getting more loose^^
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Gambling has always been banned for kids in my country aaaand stopped noone
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Overlord
Gachas? Or gambling
both
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china is on their way to remove dailies
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Imo they should ban these "number games" for adults where it rolls every 30 or 120 sec new set of numbers
12:53
Those are sick they just dont stop
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ScReeNy
Do they? i feel its getting more loose^^
It was always loose, the issue was that no one noticed until these things became HUGE. Crypto casinos, gacha games, csgo betting with skins
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TsFreddie
china is on their way to remove dailies
I shall praise Xi
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they did announce it at a very bad time tho
12:53
it tanked our economy for a week
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yea the things i recently noticed was that new betting on politics at us election
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Learath2
It was always loose, the issue was that no one noticed until these things became HUGE. Crypto casinos, gacha games, csgo betting with skins
Dont worry, games move to shit coins, aka you transfer pseudo crypto and U gamble with those!
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i wish they would enforce less advertisments, some sport or esports events are just unattendable (edited)
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now we don't even know if they are still pushing it cuz they deleted all work in progress documents about the ban
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TsFreddie
it tanked our economy for a week
WTF?!
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Overlord
Dont worry, games move to shit coins, aka you transfer pseudo crypto and U gamble with those!
That's actually what's getting banned in a couple places soon. There is a lot of legislation in the pipeline to ban these crypto casinos that techincally don't count as gambling since they don't use real money
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Overlord
WTF?!
they announced it right before the market closing before a weekend.
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ScReeNy
i wish they would enforce less advertisments, some sport or esports events are just unattendable (edited)
It's actually disgusting how much they push sports betting now
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Learath2
That's actually what's getting banned in a couple places soon. There is a lot of legislation in the pipeline to ban these crypto casinos that techincally don't count as gambling since they don't use real money
Dont worry, people will switch to gambling items in game worth equuvalents
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Overlord
Dont worry, people will switch to gambling items in game worth equuvalents
That's also getting legislated in a couple places, e.g. afaik Turkey has a law coming up about this
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TsFreddie
they announced it right before the market closing before a weekend.
I still cant understand how -> no more daily logging -> stock crash
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pepeW and it was at the time where entertainment being the last segment that isn't declining yet
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I won about 200 euros worth of skins in csgo betting back in the day
12:57
Then I bet on fnatic beating virtus pro, one of the biggest underdog upsets of csgo history pepeW
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cuz we just had a major estate company going bankrupt
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lost all 200
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TsFreddie
cuz we just had a major estate company going bankrupt
Evergrande still?
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Learath2
Evergrande still?
i mean the announcement is right after that
12:58
not sure what's the update on evergrande tho (edited)
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haven't heard about it for a while
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I thought it was already pretty bankrupt ๐Ÿ˜„
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I remember they forced the CEO to sell like 95% of his assets
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i'm pretty sure they just went bankrupt and never came back
12:59
we still got lands unresolved here.
12:59
we also almost bought their unfinished apartment
13:00
cuz parents were looking for new apartment
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Does china still do the 99 year lease thing instead of actual ownership?
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i thought it was 70 years
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but yes
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TsFreddie
i thought it was 70 years
Oh 99 was singapore
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TsFreddie
catxplosion @Bota stop harassing me
feelsbadman
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Learath2
Oh 99 was singapore
ok googled it
13:03
the home you buy is yours forever, the land they were on is 70 years
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TsFreddie
the home you buy is yours forever, the land they were on is 70 years
forever as in as long as you are alive or as long as someone holds the title?
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Learath2
forever as in as long as you are alive or as long as someone holds the title?
probably the latter
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Learath2
forever as in as long as you are alive or as long as someone holds the title?
ok googled again, as long as the building is not blown up or endangering
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Honestly, land being only available for lease sounds great to me. Actually owning land is an insane idea
13:05
What do you mean you own the land, wat?
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it's nice that you can own a house though
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i think the idea is that home doesn't usually last that long
13:07
chinese wikipedia said most home buildings are designed to last 50 years
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not sure how that worked. but I do see old building often being demolished and home owners getting conpensated by gov. so maybe they just start demolishing homes once gov got the land back.
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@Learath2 do they translate the signs for you guys or they just stay chinese like that
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kinki9487 (only weekends online) 2024-12-06 13:24
after 24*7 hrs' timeout, im back justatest
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kinki9487 (only weekends online)
after 24*7 hrs' timeout, im back justatest
Back to being timeouted
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TsFreddie
@Learath2 do they translate the signs for you guys or they just stay chinese like that
I bet they translate, lets gamble
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i'm finally done
13:45
with dailies lol
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TsFreddie
@Learath2 do they translate the signs for you guys or they just stay chinese like that
Good question. I will check, where is this?
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Learath2
Good question. I will check, where is this?
the massage robot
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Btw I'm unable to quit my job because my boss keeps pushing the meeting where I'll tell him I quit
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I think you might know about this experience ๐Ÿ˜„
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why is everyone quitting
13:56
dumbduck
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I'm tired. 8 months of working is enough
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lol
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I'll move to under a bridge and continue my life there
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if they drag this out for more than 3 and half months, you'll beat me.
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Learath2
I'm tired. 8 months of working is enough
i honestly wonder if you'll just die if you work in chinese companies
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or maybe chinese companies treats foreign enployees differently
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greenthing
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Wow a man in a forest
13:59
Finally told me why everyone was nice to me today
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Apparently its the hat
14:00
No wonder that in places i was without the hat interactions were normal
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TsFreddie
i honestly wonder if you'll just die if you work in chinese companies
I would. I get bored very quickly. This job was interesting while I was learning golang, as soon as I have nothing more to exctract from a job it's useless for me
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sounds like a man that doesn't need money
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This type of employee isn't really tolerated anywhere tbf. I'm just far too privileged to conform to capitalism
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@TsFreddie words to live by
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( what is written there??)
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the one thing I hate about our HR during our interviews, is that she literally asked me if I have rich family because I doesn't seem desperate enough for people looking for jobs
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I know a handful of those characters
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so i assume they have a pretty basic view of people looking for jobs
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Overlord
@TsFreddie words to live by
literally don't know how to translate cuz i'm so bad at chinese
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TsFreddie
the one thing I hate about our HR during our interviews, is that she literally asked me if I have rich family because I doesn't seem desperate enough for people looking for jobs
Desperate is very good for your employer. If you will starve without employment they get to set the terms
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TsFreddie
literally don't know how to translate cuz i'm so bad at chinese
justatest
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Learath2
Desperate is very good for your employer. If you will starve without employment they get to set the terms
i mean i get that, but you really don't need to say it to my face
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do they just think they can get desperate people that are just so happened to be mega talented?
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not saying that i'm mega talented but i'm better at everyone they managed to hire after there for sure.
14:04
amogus bad tastes all around
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When either of U is free, can i get the gist of what is written there?
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it's true tho, i don't read nearly enough chinese literature to translate that
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Overlord
@TsFreddie words to live by
I see, 100, river, large, 9, posession, 1000
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i mean i get that it just says something about being a bigger man and don't chase desires
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anything more than that, i can't
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Death by 100 large rivers, possesion reposed, 1000 years of pain
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Thanks
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do they just think they can get desperate people that are just so happened to be mega talented?
I don't think companies nowadays appreciate talent all that much. They'd rather have 6 desperate people working for less money
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even then!
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do you know how to get desperate people on board?
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being nice and pretend that you care about them!
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This is true. Maybe you should become an HR person
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at least pretend you know
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they must hated me so much, cuz i keep telling everyone how to do their jobs
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i keep apologizing to my lead for bringing up ideas
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Overlord
Death by 100 large rivers, possesion reposed, 1000 years of pain
Unlikely given chinese doesn't work like that afaik. The some of those characters I know are bound to be the "vocal" part of a pair
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i have a suspicion that the letters are added specifically for this
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Learath2
Unlikely given chinese doesn't work like that afaik. The some of those characters I know are bound to be the "vocal" part of a pair
As long as its not pho soup 1000 CNY im fine
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TsFreddie
they must hated me so much, cuz i keep telling everyone how to do their jobs
There was this one dude who hated me so much because I kept giving him nitty comments in pr reviews. Apparently before I joined they all just trusted that the other knew what they were doing, so they would just click approve
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lol
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fun facts, none of the gamedev studio i've been in uses pull request
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dumbduck
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but assets based gamedev is very hard to review tho
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Palestinian
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youre saying you dont like stories that go on or have multiple choices ?
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I really need to get into gamedev somehow. Before I get far too old for it
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justatest just to try it out or?
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youre saying you dont like stories that go on or have multiple choices ?
Palestinian 2024-12-06 14:13
O say its a meme
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Learath2
I really need to get into gamedev somehow. Before I get far too old for it
make duck hunt except you own a grenade launcher and have a jetpack
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TsFreddie
justatest just to try it out or?
As a job. The industry is shit but it is cool
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from what I understand, gamedev is usually just a few core devs and lots of planning and assets people. so there really isn't much core gamedev positions to begin with.
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If I wanted to just try it I would make games in my free time
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Learath2
If I wanted to just try it I would make games in my free time
in your free time but as a job
14:15
sounds like indie to me
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vibe
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I have a gamedesign/art friend who wants to make a game. He had a couple ideas, I'll maybe make one with him
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Indie moment
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Learath2
I would. I get bored very quickly. This job was interesting while I was learning golang, as soon as I have nothing more to exctract from a job it's useless for me
i'm kinda on the same boat but i want to learn about how they collabrate at all in studios. but both company hired me to start over and build a team, so i can only build it my way, i still don't know what studios actually plan their shit after two years of working.
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Learath2
Indie moment
Hindu moment*
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Learath2
I have a gamedesign/art friend who wants to make a game. He had a couple ideas, I'll maybe make one with him
art friend?
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you don't get to know these a lot in china
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Why?
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amogus idk
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too many people and most of them don't have hobbies and stuff
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Should be easier considering asia likes art and 1.3B chinese
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the chance of you knowing someone that has a strong hobby is rare
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Then what do they do after work
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at least in my shitty ass town
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Or what they spend money on
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Overlord
Or what they spend money on
genshin impact
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Ok
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i mean, if the only thing you've done is to take exams and study from age 6 to 17.
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after you go to college you really have 0 idea what to do if you got nothing to do (edited)
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maybe people in a less competitive place have more hobbies
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TsFreddie
i mean, if the only thing you've done is to take exams and study from age 6 to 17.
Thats life eveywhere tho in my country 19-20 is the age of graduating kids BEFORE they even go to college
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but my town is like mega hardcore
14:21
our middle schools and high schools goes from 6am to 11pm
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TsFreddie
our middle schools and high schools goes from 6am to 11pm
Thats stupid too
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ye, i mean literally
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it really is their whole life
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just taking exams and study
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not like in a they've been student for that long
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Mandatory school time or the non mandatory but forced extra hours?
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ะผะฐะบัะธะผ 2024-12-06 14:22
ะฒั†ั„ะฐะฒ
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they literally do that 24*7
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Then how come they are interested in G impact?
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Like if they didnt know anything
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Overlord
Mandatory school time or the non mandatory but forced extra hours?
non mandatory by law, but then what? your parents are just gonna give up college because you don't want to study 24/7?
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Why that? Cuz phones?
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most parents get scared when other kids are studying
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TsFreddie
non mandatory by law, but then what? your parents are just gonna give up college because you don't want to study 24/7?
Yes somone has to be a cook tho
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Overlord
Yes somone has to be a cook tho
that's for people can't get into college
14:24
asian parents don't like that
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Same goes for plumber?
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everything that doesn't require a degree
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Parents should go to college, trade skills are extrmely in demand
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TsFreddie
art friend?
He actually studied game design too. He is truly a gamedesign/art friend
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Kei
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also you need a hard degree and then some other certs to get into a gov job, which is much stable even tho it pays less
14:25
most parents are aiming for that
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Learath2
He actually studied game design too. He is truly a gamedesign/art friend
i don't doubt that, i just wish i know someone that has a hobby like that
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TsFreddie
also you need a hard degree and then some other certs to get into a gov job, which is much stable even tho it pays less
Gov jobs ( to advance below menial task) always require degrees sadly
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not a bad choice tbh
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but still
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No, thanks gov job is epitome of menial tasks and no thinking
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it really needs some heavy regulation to drive the competitivness down
14:27
i think our city is cracking down on overtime studying
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but most parents just send their kids to illegal schools anyway
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i think our city is cracking down on overtime studying
Good
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there are a blackmarkets now for putting your children in someone's hand for 6 hours a day just to get a better chance at college. isn't that great.
14:29
my mom is a teacher, lots of her colleagues host these "study sessions" to earn more money
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there are a blackmarkets now for putting your children in someone's hand for 6 hours a day just to get a better chance at college. isn't that great.
As in private tutoring?
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ye
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those are illegal too now
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Same here
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but can't stop them
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They get paid better than official teachers
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oh, they are official teachers
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Also i love when teacher at school is same person as private tutor
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but they just get more for private sessions now
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Its like doomed to be bad
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oh, they are official teachers
Yes same herr
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I worked 2 years at school
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epic
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Indeed
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Thry charge more per hour than i earned in a day (atleast some)
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Also here its not just grades that matter
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They can literally withold U from final exam
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Even with decent grades
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my mom said they opened CS program in middle school
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she said i should consider just do private tutor for those
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but honestly i don't think i can teach.
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Friend does it, prep it once and U are set
14:34
U can, adterall U also taught at previous job
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[BR] Sotka_Kansaro 2024-12-06 15:03
all hello!
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pls help is tasnet aimbot start&
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?
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agoniajg(ะ•ะณะพั€) 2024-12-06 15:08
how can I make my own server so that anyone can log in?
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agoniajg(ะ•ะณะพั€)
how can I make my own server so that anyone can log in?
one channel is enough.
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@TsFreddie things like this makes me understand why matrix bridges and permanent logs are so important
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Overlord
@TsFreddie things like this makes me understand why matrix bridges and permanent logs are so important
like what
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TsFreddie
like what
Like the message from 16:05
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This is some time based racist, against people who cannot be there on time!
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What is even stupider is, discord regular client actually shows deleted unread messages for split second
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i don't know when that is
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Ach, its the hour we currently preside in but at minute 05
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are you talking about my message?
15:57
what is this old ass download notification
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justatest
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bruh,a snack brand started to just randomly put cash in their bags
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this is true gambling
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TsFreddie
bruh,a snack brand started to just randomly put cash in their bags
gacha in chips, ah hell nah
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but at least you get food in return, not nothing xd
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justatest right?
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what if someone buys in bulk, loses some money then started buying more to hope they can get lucky and make it back
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justatest
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if someone buys it in bulk, the only concern I have is not giving them away once it's not useful for the person anymore
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i guess if they can sell opened snacks then that's not so bad.
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and have them land on trashcans. (edited)
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oh shit imma tell my fellow store owners to just open these and sell the snacks by weight
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TsFreddie
bruh,a snack brand started to just randomly put cash in their bags
idk about other countries but i remember in poland and cech it was even back in 2005
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lol
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sell them as exclusive products, only allow to sell like 5 pieces / person
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otherwise someone would just buy all of them, throw the majority to the trash and have the trash collector companies, and most likely the government be mad at you
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i doubt that they can enforce that especially for stores
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they have to in case they don't want more trash ๐Ÿ˜„
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stores needs to stock them tho
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and i think stores can just open them up, keep any cash found, then sell the opened product by weight
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justatest
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that would be illegal, because they are a seller, not a consumer
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when has law stopped bad actors from trying
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kekw they are already bad actors
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never, here in Europe, it's rarely forced
16:37
even for some stuff which would expire the next day, goes into a 50% discount so people buy them
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oh shit i forgot to put away my melatonin gummies
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i hope my dad don't just munch on those thinking it was candy (edited)
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.-.
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the box was in english
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fuck. i need to get up and put it away i guess
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imagine if your dad gets addicted to it lmao
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idk what would happen if you OD on melatonin
16:39
my dad do just randomly eats stuff at home when he gets back at 3am
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justatest
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done
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if he dig through my stuff to eat those then it's his problem
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TsFreddie
are you talking about my message?
Yes
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TsFreddie
bruh,a snack brand started to just randomly put cash in their bags
We have had this 14 years ago, and that was the best life rver was
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TsFreddie
if he dig through my stuff to eat those then it's his problem
just write in a paper, that "eating too many will kill you" or something
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and if your dad questions the paper, you can question him back by saying "what were you searching in my private place?"
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just say "daddy chill" ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
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just say "daddy chill" ๐Ÿ˜ˆ
what the hell is even that
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ใ‚€ใŽ 2024-12-06 18:51
@Derek offensive
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unoffensived
โค๏ธ 1
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ใ‚€ใŽ 2024-12-06 18:52
its just "fuck you"
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Palestinian 2024-12-06 18:55
Sand cake
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Palestinian
Sand cake
not enough sand
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anyone else trying poe 2
19:14
server down rip
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wow
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i think the compiler literally just fixed a bug in my code
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We're still working on deploying the database improvements and will keep you updated as soon as we know more. The moment we can provide a precise timeline we will. Thank you very much for your patience.
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pilonpl
i think the compiler literally just fixed a bug in my code
my code works with -O3 but not -O0
19:29
it's actually quite amazing
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how could that happen at all?
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maybe ub working ur way
19:29
but its a bug in ur code
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Optimization levels changing behaviour is almost 100% of the time your fault. Usually UB
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-O3 sometimes breaks stuff though, so that's usually not a good thing to check
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yeah it's my fault but its still weird
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Perhaps your "bug" is getting optimized out completely?
19:31
its advent of code and the solution is correct
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Optimized out completely doesn't necessarily mean it would break anything (edited)
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If you are doing it in C try ubsan and asan
19:31
Those usually catch that stuff pretty easily
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Also enable all warnings -Wall -Wextra
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i wonder if the compiler can delete any code that can potentially lead to ub or can it only assume that like for example the parameters are always such that ub doesnt happen
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i guess it could somehow break the loop right before segfault
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it is allowed to do whatever it wants with ub
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Maybe I should throw -O3 at my code, maybe it'll find something to bring my execution time down to less than 15 hours
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e.g. if you are dereferencing a variable it will 100% assume it is not null
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(I have some performance problems to sort out)
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risu
Maybe I should throw -O3 at my code, maybe it'll find something to bring my execution time down to less than 15 hours
If it's a large program LTO can help
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If you are doing an advent task it's more likely just an algorithm issue, nothing O3 can really fix usually
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Learath2
Also enable all warnings -Wall -Wextra
yeah i have those enabled by default in my build scripts
19:34
i just put -O3 always because why not lol. probably a bad practice
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Learath2
If it's a large program LTO can help
It's a disturbingly hard to read purely functional solution to today's AoC
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pilonpl
i just put -O3 always because why not lol. probably a bad practice
As long as your code is known to be sane, it's fine, but it's hard to know that a priori ๐Ÿ˜„
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If you are doing an advent task it's more likely just an algorithm issue, nothing O3 can really fix usually
See I'm aware of the algorithm problem, I just hoped that the compiler would understand what I'm doing and do it in a better way (edited)
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pilonpl
i just put -O3 always because why not lol. probably a bad practice
I think the usual practice is -O2
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risu
See I'm aware of the algorithm problem, I just hoped that the compiler would understand what I'm doing and do it in a better way (edited)
Usually they are not smart enough for that kind of restructuring
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Though functional stuff does fare better
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-06 19:39
@Learath2 I went to stone age while rewriting the compiler and now there're only integer literals, WOOOO
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Problem with functional programming: no mutable state The unfortunate solution: copying your entire state (16k of it) every iteration
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@Learath2 I went to stone age while rewriting the compiler and now there're only integer literals, WOOOO
de-evolution
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-06 19:40
but now it generates code from ir, not ast ๐Ÿ˜
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(ir is almost ast xd)
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Problem with functional programming: no mutable state The unfortunate solution: copying your entire state (16k of it) every iteration
you just pray to god the compiler is smart enough to allocate it only once ๐Ÿ™ƒ
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if it can determine that future iterations do not access past state it can optimize out the copying around
19:42
I keep noticing I'm hungry. I look at my phone to order food. I notice it doesn't arrive fast enough. I get up to make food. I notice I need to do dishes first. I sit back down and chat here. Repeat (edited)
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Stuff is already on the order of 130^4 and then I have to start finding when my iteration gets stuck in a loop
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Literally halting problem troll
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btw what is this external thing?
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I'm guessing things outside fish
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yes
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Also ew why use fish
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why not?
19:45
what should i use
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fish is very nice as an interactive shell
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I use bash because I'm 80 years old, but if I wasn't 80 I would definitely use fish
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i use bash for scripts
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Use bash at home and every server will feel like home
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Amen
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just install fish on the server
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risu
I'm guessing things outside fish
anyways so like what does that mean? what things are inside fish and what things are outside?
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enjoying some cointreau while waiting for poe 2 servers
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owo
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maybe i should write my own shell
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shouldnt be that hard i guess?
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pilonpl
anyways so like what does that mean? what things are inside fish and what things are outside?
Inside fish: uhh shell things I guess Outside fish: your program
19:53
that makes sense
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I guess fish would do some buffering and possibly processing on stdin and stdout too
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pilonpl
maybe i should write my own shell
you don't want to do this
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pilonpl
btw what is this external thing?
Also btw I recommend something like hyperfine to benchmark programs like this
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while on a plane i wrote my own Vec on rust
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but i didnt handle ZST yet
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miri showed a UB
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zero sized types
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does it make sense to have zero sized types on a vec
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Vec<()>
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Learath2
Also btw I recommend something like hyperfine to benchmark programs like this
I was just about to recommend hyperfine :)
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Learath2
Also btw I recommend something like hyperfine to benchmark programs like this
It runs your program until the results become statistically significant. It can also do warmup runs to fill the fs cache
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is doing malloc of size 0 ub
19:55
hyperfine is nice
19:55
also look out "iai"
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Experimental one-shot benchmarking/profiling harness for Rust - bheisler/iai
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it shows cpu cycles iirc
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does it make sense to have zero sized types on a vec
Mh, I don't think so, a vec of 0 sized types is 0 sized, it's contents can't be stored anywhere
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Iai is an experimental benchmarking harness that uses Cachegrind to perform extremely precise single-shot measurements of Rust code.
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For more fine grained benchmarking you would want to use some sort of benchmark framework that measures the time inside the process instead of the entire process, but that's a lot more effort than just throwing your entire program into hyperfine
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wow hyperfine looks great (edited)
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Zero sized types are to contain behaviour and stuff
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iai best for high precision
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it also works nice on CI
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because its not a benchmark of time
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Running target/release/deps/test_regular_bench-8b173c29ce041afa bench_fibonacci_short Instructions: 1735 L1 Accesses: 2364 L2 Accesses: 1 RAM Accesses: 1 Estimated Cycles: 2404 bench_fibonacci_long Instructions: 26214735 L1 Accesses: 35638623 L2 Accesses: 2 RAM Accesses: 1 Estimated Cycles: 35638668
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is doing malloc of size 0 ub
it is ub, atleast as of C23
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Oh yeah I remember seeing some solution submission system that gave really nice feedback
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C17 makes it implementation defined
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not just cycles but counting cache misses and calculating stats like IPC and branch prediction accuracy
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I'd love to know what tool they used to generate those
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cachegrind
19:59
its the only tool rly
19:59
Official Home Page for valgrind, a suite of tools for debugging and profiling. Automatically detect memory management and threading bugs, and perform detailed profiling. The current stable version is valgrind-3.24.0.
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its what iai uses
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istg I call myself a programmer yet have never used a real debugger
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wdym print is a real debugger
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i did start using gdb
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just to see where my program segfaults
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but it's a great start
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gdb is great tool
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easily my favourite debugger
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btw bash build scripts are kinda annoying
20:04
it would be nice to have be able to set some flags like ./build.sh -O0
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or some presets
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Have you heard of our lord and saviour makefiles?
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yeahhhh
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unfortunately
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doesnt seem like they're any good since there is cmake
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Eh, but then if you are building something simple cmake is very overkill
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and cmake is shit too
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meson
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bison
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or idk
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the word
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im a bit drunk
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idk maybe nob.h
Header only library for writing build recipes in C. - tsoding/nobuild
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use the og tw build system
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lua
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A searchable list of every UUID v4 - scroll till you find a new favorite.
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i guess premake is decent
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Ryozuki
lua
BASED?!
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pilonpl
i guess premake is decent
The Cherno uses it
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Wow, I needed something like this
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Bam is a fast and flexible build system. Bam uses Lua to describe the build process. It&#39;s takes its inspiration for the script files from scons. While scons focuses on being 100% correct wh...
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Why are there so many build systems -_-
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why use a scripting language at all in a C project? just use C like a real programmer
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Like, I get it, every build system feels annoying to use, but that doesn't mean I should have to download your favourite build system just to build your project which is like one of the three that use that specific build system
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typical C program bam
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deadbeef-dead-4ce5-beef-deadbeefdead this is my favourite
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I'm a big believer in the use of standard utilities
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but C has no standard utilities
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the C standard doesnt define make as a standard
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rust has cargo as a standard utlity
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Ryozuki
the C standard doesnt define make as a standard
de facto standards are standard enough for me start acting all conservative
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment ๐Ÿ–ผ๏ธ
REAL
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ok but Rust is too modern for my taste
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weak
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment ๐Ÿ–ผ๏ธ
Wow that's so impressive, clang doesn't even notify me when it deletes "unreachable" code
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skill issue
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like, it's a shame it doesn't seem to focus on embedded much And can I even compile Rust for my 286 (I don't have a 286)? (edited)
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it has some focus on embedded
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pilonpl
Wow that's so impressive, clang doesn't even notify me when it deletes "unreachable" code
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risu
Click to see attachment ๐Ÿ–ผ๏ธ
Mind you this behaviour is very compiler specific
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I think it's like some specific version range for clang
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i think the while is ub
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Yes, endless loop is ub
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typical c stuff
20:21
in doubt, ub
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You can think of it like this:
  • the function will never return because infinite loop, therefor we can remove the ret instruction
  • the loop has no body, therefor we can remove it -> execution falls through to whatever's next in the executable
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But doesn't coding in rust require constant refactoring?
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Ryozuki
typical c stuff
Challenge (Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE): Write C code without UB. Survive for 5 minutes.
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risu
Challenge (Difficulty: IMPOSSIBLE): Write C code without UB. Survive for 5 minutes.
MilkeeyCat 2024-12-06 20:24
Just don't compile/run the program for 5 minutes santatrollet
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Considering the ratio of my time spent on writing code to my time spent cracking jokes about programming you could call me a Senior Software Shitposting Specialist
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Writing code is hard
20:29
Watching youtube is easy
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huh I just now noticed the alliteration
20:29
SSSS
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Rust just seems very complicated
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And maybe it's safe
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But safe doesn't mean fun
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I respect languages that put effort into making safety easy but don't mandate it
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Zig?
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Zig seems like it's actually just safe C
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Zig also recognizes C as the GOAT which is definitely a point in its favour
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It would be great to make a game
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An actually decent one
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I never made a game
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Because games are hard to make it turns out
20:38
But i have an idea for an Undertale inspired bullet hell game
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pilonpl
But i have an idea for an Undertale inspired bullet hell game
aww I thought you had something cool in mind
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That is cool
20:39
Because undertale is cool
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Other than that i don't have any ideas
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I could also maybe make a website
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A forum or something
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Not very useful tho
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Since there probably are hundreds of nice open source forum websites
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But i want a game
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Maybe a game where you have to balance a pendulum
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*a double pendulum
20:45
That doesn't sound like a fun game
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A game where you have to balance too tees on your head
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pilonpl
Other than that i don't have any ideas
dodge flying sentient bananas with laser guided lasers
20:46
and you have V1 ultrakills movement
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Laser guided lasers? Now that sounds sick
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yee
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laser needs to use a laser to aim before firing
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Makes sense i guess
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a reason why mgr:r is so fun is because of how absurd and unrealistic it is
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so you don't have to aim for realism when making a game
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Absolutely, gamey games are the best
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get creative and make random choices
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oh
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got another idea
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when it comes to impact, more is more
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when it comes to feature set, less is more
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when it comes to feature cross-interaction, more is more
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you control an arm with a sword and you have to defend yourself while you're in bed and monsters are trying to get you
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a reason why mgr:r is so fun is because of how absurd and unrealistic it is
another example: project wingman is fun because your plane can carry 200 missiles and do infinite backflips
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I just need a simple 2D game idea that won't take too much time to complete
20:55
Because it turns out i can't focus on one project for more than a few days
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A full game in a few days is a serious ask even for something simple
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chess with new pieces such as a missile, tank, and wizard
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if you want more than a little curiosity
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Chess isn't exactly simple but a great project idea nonetheless
20:57
Especially making a bot could be interesting
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okay tic tac toe except it's 100x100 and you have 12 letters of the alphabet
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Oh wow it's late and I don't have the energy to complete AoC Is this the end of my run?
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risu
Oh wow it's late and I don't have the energy to complete AoC Is this the end of my run?
Do two days tomorrow
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CC - SS EE GG FF AA UU LL TT
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And today's problem is kinda simple
20:59
Even the naive solution runs in 100ms
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pilonpl
And today's problem is kinda simple
I spent 6 hours on just the first part today My restriction makes it anything but simple
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What restriction
20:59
Pure functional?
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Have you seen any of my solutions?
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pilonpl
I just need a simple 2D game idea that won't take too much time to complete
watch paint dry except it functions like "please don't touch anything" or whatever it was called
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pilonpl
Pure functional?
With no bound variables
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risu
With no bound variables
I have no idea what that means
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My program consists entirely of functions applied to each other and some constants
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there are no named variables
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Wow
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My slow solution for the first part
2 KB
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. is the function composition operator
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Well, i am not very familiar with purely functional style
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But it sounds interesting so maybe i should try some functional language
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Let me explain some of my helper functions flip13 is a function that swaps the 1st and 3rd arguments of a function applyTwice basically works like this applyTwice(f, x) = f(f(x)) and twiceApply is that but kinda backwards, so twiceApply(f, x) = (f(x))(x)
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Right
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the way each of them is implemented is a bit opaque but they are so helpful sometimes thing is I could keep writing helper functions all day and I'd still want for more justatest
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Just use python and call it a day lol
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It would probably be best to create some automated tool for transforming a normal program into this form without variables
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maybe to explain the kind of pain I'm in I could tell you what updateIndex does Here's the Python implementation def updateIndex(l, i, x): new_l = l.copy() new_l[i] = x return new_l
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compared to this updateIndex = curry $ liftM2 (flip13 $ compose2 (flip (++)) (:)) (uncurry $ flip take) (uncurry $ flip $ drop . succ)
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Yeah
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Mind you I'm not making a copy of the list because I want to
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Now to do the second part (in a way that doesn't take 15 hours to execute) I'd need to write a version that doesn't make modifications to the list and that means I'd get to write a good part of the program all over again
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I also ended up writing this updateIndex2 = curry $ liftM2 (.) (liftM2 updateIndex fst (snd . snd)) (liftM2 updateIndex (liftM2 (!!) fst (snd . snd)) (fst . snd)) This one is very convenient, it uses updateIndex twice to update a value in a two-dimensional list
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Maybe chatgpt can generate working code?
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With those constraints
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It would be interesting to see if it can
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If it takes me multiple hours to produce a small program that merely type checks I really doubt it can
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Has my poor performance really degraded your faith in my abilities this much?
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I have no idea what's going on lol
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It's just random letters
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Btw how doing actually useful stuff like reading a file works in functional programming?
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Let's go through updateIndex one word at a time curry turns f((a, b)) into f(a, b) liftM2 can do a ton of things which don't necessarily even make sense in other languages, but in this case it's basically liftM2(f, g, h, x) = f(g(x), h(x)) flip13 is basically flip13(f, a, b, c) = f(c, b, a) compose2 is basically compose2(f, g, a, b) = f(g(a, b)) ugh I'm getting tired uncurry is the reverse of curry, turns f(a, b) into f((a, b))
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and the main thing to make any of this make sense is that you can partially apply any function
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so if you apply a two argument function to a single value what you get is a single argument function
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(1 +) is a function that adds 1 to whatever value you give it
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That's a thing in python too i guess
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By using decorators
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And there is a decorator for that specific thing in some built in library i think
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pilonpl
Btw how doing actually useful stuff like reading a file works in functional programming?
There's a fun trick they use At least in Haskell, your application returns a value of the type IO () that value represents the IO that your application performs so to modify a file your program has to return a value that represents a file modification
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But then shouldn't the program terminate? (edited)
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Your program is a single function whose return value represents everything the program does (in terms of side effects, not computation) throughout its entire life (edited)
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pilonpl
But then shouldn't the program terminate? (edited)
The value can also represent waiting for user input as part of it
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Oh wait
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So it's like
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The IO operation is an input to a function?
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See the magic part is that the value does not need to be computed completely before the function starts returning The process of the application doing its thing is part of determining the return value of your main function
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All the program does in a mathematical sense is finding the return value of your main function
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Right
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Functional programming is a bit mind bending to begin with (especially if you're used to writing C or something) and here I am pretending I'm doing combinator calculus
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It's definitely a very abstract way of programming
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C is much closer to what the computer actually can do
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a healthy dash of functional programming can help code be much more expressive, and in slightly higher level languages can also be relatively quite CPU-friendly (edited)
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in C I wouldn't recommend passing function pointers around all willy-nilly
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I mean, passing around function pointers isn't harmful, but going through the indirection all the time isn't great and making your compiler optimizer's life harder isn't great either
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American crisps / chips that passed EU food law tasted terrible, meanwhile chinese cookies that pretend to be japanese ones, taste nice
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Maybe one day USA will learn that corn syrup is not the answer
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Has anyone any idea for a wedding gift for a man, who doesnt drink alcohol nor eats sweets? Its not like i can just gift protein powder
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money
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just buy some stupid 0815 weeding thing for 5$ and rest money
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but they mostly want money to cover the cost of the party xd
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