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Between 2024-12-04 00:00 and 2024-12-05 00:00
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 00:02
pepeH anyone wanna argue for people wanting to self spectate but don't know how to check configs?
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Tater 2024-12-04 00:10
merge this before heinrich sees justatest
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 00:10
ye config. ikr
00:11
at least it is not gameplay/input i guess.pepeW
00:11
adding more dummy config is probably worse than this
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Tater 2024-12-04 01:10
I think adding more dummy config is just explicitly forbidden
01:11
it's in the contribution guidelines https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
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Sans 2024-12-04 01:12
All my romanian brothers will soon be able to enjoy the game in 100% romanian owo
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 01:26
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9338 Don't allow SpectateClosest / left-clicking to select self
This reverts spec behavior to how it was pre 18.8 in game. We should keep this in 18.8 while exploring other ways to avoid player confusion before we fully commit to a consistent spec behavior. So the player confusion issue is still unsolved after a round of changes.

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risu 2024-12-04 02:17
lol it just keeps on going
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 02:26
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9339 Mitigate self spectating confusion problem
This is a showcase of different ways we can avoid self spectating confusions while still allowing self spectating options to be readily available. More approaches will be experimented here as they come up. Check commits for different approaches. Note that with all approaches combined this can very obnoxious, ideally only the most effective solution will be accepted, but since it is all visual and control changes, it will be very hard to get a feel for it unless you try it yourself so I'...
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TsFreddie
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9337 Add cl_enable_self_spectate
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Sans 2024-12-04 02:31
what is going on XD
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 02:32
nothing really
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 03:00
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9340 Allow invalid commands too if unknown commands are allowed
Fixes #8694 Done by considering all commands valid if unknown commands are allowed. Also removed all error suppression related to unknown commands. I think the error messages are still helpful even if you allows unknown command. 0 arguments commands and duplicates are still not allowed due to being unrelated to the issue.

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ws-client BOT 2024-12-04 03:33
<ChillerDragon> @Robyt3 i do not really know how to exclude curses from the rest of the code. I need it in the header because i store curses pointers. And its a main client component. Not sure how to technically or conceptually seal it off.
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<ChillerDragon> do i need to create a separate client lib that links curses privately? That sounds hard and potentially like more git conflicts
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<ChillerDragon> can we just rename COLORS in ddnet it would safe me a lot of time
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 03:37
why is it called curses
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-04 03:38
<ChillerDragon> cursor optimization
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Tater 2024-12-04 03:40
cursors is 1 more letter? (edited)
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 03:41
<insert mind explosion meme here>
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ws-client BOT 2024-12-04 05:19
<ChillerDragon> fuck it i rq aoc too hard
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 05:24
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 05:50
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
0bcd8b2 don't allow SpectateClosest to select self - TsFreddie 3227125 Merge pull request #9338 from TsFreddie/disable-self-spec-click - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9338 Don't allow SpectateClosest / left-clicking to select self
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
1a0a5a4 allow invalid commands too if unknown commands are allowed - TsFreddie 27aeae9 Merge pull request #9340 from TsFreddie/editor-unknown-cmds - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9340 Allow invalid commands too if unknown commands are allowed
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #8694 Cant use unknown tunes in editor
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[ddnet:master] 5 new commits
2c4e021 100% RO translation (1/2) - Sans3108 b5610a0 Merge branch 'ddnet:master' into master - Sans3108 8f4f904 100% RO translation (2/2) - Sans3108 76d62e7 Merge branch 'master' of https://github.com/Sans3108/ddnet-1 - Sans3108 53ce625 Merge pull request #9325 from Sans3108/master - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9325 100% RO translation
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risu 2024-12-04 06:06
I did the first part after much struggle with a rather nasty solution turns out the second part is even worse
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Tater 2024-12-04 06:19
how do I find the private tw aoc leaderboard?
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-04 06:27
https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1312742062017216564
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risu 2024-12-04 06:49
holy shit that took WAY too long (edited)
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 06:49
I FORGOT AOC YESTERDAY monkaStop monkaStop monkaStop monkaStop monkaStop monkaStop monkaStop
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risu 2024-12-04 06:50
and my solution is HIDEOUS
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 06:50
Guys pls remind me at 16:30UTC+1 ty
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MilkeeyCat
https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1312742062017216564
Tater 2024-12-04 06:50
it just redirects me
06:50
to https://adventofcode.com/2024/leaderboard
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-04 06:50
Hm :/
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 06:51
You need to enter the code into the private leaderboard thingie
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Tater 2024-12-04 06:51
who has the code
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MilkeeyCat 2024-12-04 06:51
Ye, there's a code in the message above
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 06:51
677828-82ec4df2 https://adventofcode.com/2024/leaderboard/private/view/677828
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Tater 2024-12-04 06:51
ok
06:51
I got it
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risu 2024-12-04 06:52
I wrote my solution for the second problem INSANELY inefficiently Benchmark 1: make run_4x Time (mean ± σ): 760.7 ms ± 11.0 ms [User: 752.6 ms, System: 6.6 ms] Range (min … max): 744.4 ms … 779.8 ms 10 runs
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 06:52
What on earth
06:52
With your restriction?
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risu 2024-12-04 06:53
yeah but the reason it's that bad is that I got lazy
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 06:53
kek
06:53
Oh shit boss on his way, brb
06:53
Oh shit boss on his way, brb
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risu 2024-12-04 06:55
it takes the input, duplicates it 4 times to deal with all the directions, then duplicates each of those O(n * m) times except removing progressively more rows or columns from each
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and then check the top left corner of every single produced table for the pattern that I'm matching so really I only care about the top 3x3 of each produced table
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Voxel
i wanna do something fun and im bored
Voxel 2024-12-04 06:59
some progress this does include sounds from Motion Pulse, but i'll replace them further in development
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ok? why did it only show two of them
07:01
i only made four of them so far
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a lot are duplicates to pad out the other missing 3
07:03
oh well
07:03
@Jupstar ✪ for when you wake up
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risu 2024-12-04 07:08
And since duplicating the input takes O(nm) time the whole program runs in O(n^2 \ m^2) unless there's some unintuitive n^3 or m^3 term somewhere in there that I can't find right now
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 07:22
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[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit
a17337f Fix removal - def-
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Palestinian 2024-12-04 08:00
Did anyone look about writtin Arabic? @ Dev
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Palestinian
Did anyone look about writtin Arabic? @ Dev
meloƞ 2024-12-04 08:03
IIRC we agreed that it's way too much work because it would be a practically full rework of text rendering, no?
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meloƞ
IIRC we agreed that it's way too much work because it would be a practically full rework of text rendering, no?
risu 2024-12-04 08:05
no no, this is our opportunity to start supporting vertical Japanese greenthing
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meloƞ
IIRC we agreed that it's way too much work because it would be a practically full rework of text rendering, no?
Palestinian 2024-12-04 08:06
IIRC means? Feel me man.. dluow u ekil ot daer ?
08:06
Its the chat issue
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 08:07
Iirc = if I remember correctly
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Palestinian 2024-12-04 08:09
Leef em nam
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 08:10
I can read that pretty decently NotLikeKogasa
08:10
I understand, but it was discussed before and it seems to be a huge amount of work
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ᴋᴏʟᴇɪᴅᴏsᴋᴏᴘᴇ 2024-12-04 08:12
why is it indicated in the game that the server is located in Russia, but in fact in Finland?
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ᴋᴏʟᴇɪᴅᴏsᴋᴏᴘᴇ
why is it indicated in the game that the server is located in Russia, but in fact in Finland?
meloƞ 2024-12-04 08:13
visibility, Finland is close enough to have a proper ping towards the Russian community, but they refused to play on it because of regional rankings
08:13
E.g /top5 showing RUS top times, they didn't want to be on finland
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ᴋᴏʟᴇɪᴅᴏsᴋᴏᴘᴇ 2024-12-04 08:14
you didn't understand, the server says it's Russian, but it's hosted in Finland
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 08:14
That's.. what I said no?
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ᴋᴏʟᴇɪᴅᴏsᴋᴏᴘᴇ
you didn't understand, the server says it's Russian, but it's hosted in Finland
risu 2024-12-04 08:15
It's because the community matters more than the geographical location in this case
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ᴋᴏʟᴇɪᴅᴏsᴋᴏᴘᴇ 2024-12-04 08:16
my ping was just 120 anyway, now it's 160-180 (edited)
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risu 2024-12-04 08:16
and because hosting in Finland is easier when you don't live in Russia
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Voxel
i only made four of them so far
Souly 2024-12-04 08:16
bro this sounds so satisfying
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risu 2024-12-04 08:16
with all the internet limitations going around it's easier to work in western countries that don't block traffic
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Voxel
i only made four of them so far
risu 2024-12-04 08:19
I think jump and getting hit by hammer are the two most important effects since you'd expect those to change based on tee and they're very often heard
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risu
no no, this is our opportunity to start supporting vertical Japanese greenthing
Tater 2024-12-04 08:49
imagine sending chat messages in vertical Japanese
08:50
it's a good thing there are no official languages that only allow vertical writing lol
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Voxel
some progress this does include sounds from Motion Pulse, but i'll replace them further in development
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 09:11
lol epyc
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Voxel
i only made four of them so far
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 09:11
haha so nice
09:11
that's exactly what i imagined
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:12
can we turn #9318 into a NetMessageEx before it goes into the next release and permanently uses a playerflag? I don't really understand the justification to send it as a flag.
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DDNet BOT 2024-12-04 09:12
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/9318
Send camera type flag to prevent unexpected viewpos and target upda...
Fixes #8810. Also prevents character flashing when switching to free view, especially in high ping servers. Added a new PLAYERFLAG_SPEC_CAM to hint server which camera type the client is currently ...
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:15
I think the flags should be reserved for things that other clients on the server need to know, not just the server
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 09:16
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9341 Update brazilian_portuguese.txt

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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
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Tater
can we turn #9318 into a NetMessageEx before it goes into the next release and permanently uses a playerflag? I don't really understand the justification to send it as a flag.
TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:35
i can do that if i can make sure message is packed along with input. i'll try
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TsFreddie
i can do that if i can make sure message is packed along with input. i'll try
Tater 2024-12-04 09:35
whats the issue that not having this causes?
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:36
other than #8810 ?
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DDNet BOT 2024-12-04 09:36
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8810
tee aims to bottom right for one tick or so when leaving spec/freev...
can easily be reproduced by taking a jetpack gun and holding shoot and pause(free view) button
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:36
is that all? (edited)
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:37
pretty much, and the tee flashing when entering freeview but that's not complained much.
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DDNet
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8810
Tater 2024-12-04 09:37
why is this bug not fixable without the flag
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:38
it needs to know what coordinate the input is using
09:38
it switches between world space and local space and server can't tell
09:38
i can send a netmessage as long as the input can be marked when it was being processed
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:39
how does the server know to not move the angle when tee is spectating in the first place
09:39
I'm just trying to figure out the issue
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:39
spectating change is server-side so server issues the spec first then client adjust their target
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:39
I see
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:40
we can make all target local space past a version maybe (edited)
09:40
just need a version check and redo the m_ViewPos calculation to add tee's position (edited)
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:41
why is unspec not a server-side driven action
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:41
unspec is i think
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client still need to receive the unspec state to update it's target space
09:41
it's just the switching spaces causing issue
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:42
so the client asks for /unspec and the server says "ok", but the client is still sending spec positions before it gets the message?
09:42
and that causes the server to incorrectly position it's cursor?
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:42
yes
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:42
so the client should just immedietly stop sending spec positions as soon as it asks for /unspec
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:43
spec message can be rejected and client doesn't know whether it will
09:43
let me double check on that
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:44
ok so new idea, when the client recieves unspec from the server it will send to the server a NetMessagEx with the exact gametick that it resumed sending "real" inputs. That way we don't need to transmit this data every single tick (edited)
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:45
i can try that
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:48
another option would be to actually use the flag to it's fullest extent, and make spec a client driven action if the server permits it. Which would remove the delay when starting/stopping spec.
09:49
I think you would need to replace the chat commands as well at that point
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:49
i think spec is server side because of clipping. if you spec a far away tee server just makes sure it is not clipped when you go into freeview
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:50
personally I think the tee popping is less annoying than waiting for the spectate to activate
09:50
if you're entering free view it would still work because you were already requesting the tees nearby to you
09:51
the same issue happens if you just move your camera REALLY fast
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:51
probably needs a new spec mode where you spec a tee, you lock your camera into a wait mode then points to that tee when the position is updated
09:51
probably doesn't make sense to be in a fake freeview when you want to spec a tee
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:52
but either way, if we are not going to make full use of the spec flag to let the client drive spectate then it should be replaced with the netmessage
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:52
i also probably couldn't do that, let's revert the flag and let someone else do it. cuz i really need to get back to my own project now
09:53
i've kinda been working on 10hr shifts just for ddnet the past week.
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 09:54
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
9c89478 Update brazilian_portuguese.txt - rffontenelle 2fad402 Merge pull request #9341 from rffontenelle/patch-1 - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9341 Update brazilian_portuguese.txt
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:54
i'll get the revert pr out soon and i'll take a small break
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:55
I don't think it's going into 18.8 so as long as it happens before 18.9 it should be ok
09:55
idk if that's correct
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:55
it is 18.9 yes
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:55
ok
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:55
if you can remember to revert it if i somehow went afk for a month (edited)
09:56
that would be great too
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:56
I'm gonna wait a couple days just to think about it
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:57
it is weird that heinrich doesn't care about it tho, i was expecting a bigger reaction from him
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:57
deen merged it very fast
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idk why
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:57
but heinrich can just veto and revert no?
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:57
yeah but he has to open another PR
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:58
he can just veto in comment first.
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Tater 2024-12-04 09:58
there is more responsibility put onto the PR author to make good decisions when deen merges your PR in 12 hours lol
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:58
i guess
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EGYT BOT 2024-12-04 09:59
is it translantion update time yet?
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:59
i tried to be clear on what shouldn't be merged so quickly, probably wasn't clear enough.
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EGYT
is it translantion update time yet?
TsFreddie 2024-12-04 09:59
it is
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EGYT BOT 2024-12-04 10:01
okey-dokey
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:04
btw i was trying to go through our issue backlog and couldn't find anything to work on (edited)
10:04
oof
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a lot of them are not closed after fixed too
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Tater 2024-12-04 10:06
you should report those to someone
10:06
if they're actually fixed
10:06
I'm sure if you made a list and ping someone they'd fix them
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:06
@ deen on github doesn't seem to work maybe he's inbox is quite crowed
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Tater 2024-12-04 10:06
just use discord
10:07
I'm sure a few of the maintainers backread this whole chat
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:07
sure
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TsFreddie
@ deen on github doesn't seem to work maybe he's inbox is quite crowed
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 10:08
his name is def-
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Jupstar ✪
his name is def-
TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:09
i'm pretty sure i tagged the right account
10:09
catbite
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i'm just saying it's deen
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TsFreddie
i'm pretty sure i tagged the right account
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 10:14
We all tagged https://github.com/deen once. Let's face it
Deen - Overview
Deen has one repository available. Follow their code on GitHub.
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:14
i don't think i've done that
10:14
never seen this profile
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 10:14
His inbox be like: "Deen PLEASE HELP, MY SAVIOR PLEASE"
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Jupstar ✪
We all tagged https://github.com/deen once. Let's face it
TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:16
someone write a script loop through issues and check who's done it
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Jupstar ✪
We all tagged https://github.com/deen once. Let's face it
Tater 2024-12-04 10:17
this guy did 1 action over 13 years lol
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:17
justatest stalker
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EGYT BOT 2024-12-04 10:21
have I?
Replying to @Jupstar ✪ We all tagged https://github.com/deen once. […]
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 10:28
@TsFreddie wtf is that white border in your video in your pr
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@TsFreddie wtf is that white border in your video in your pr
TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:29
i don't plan on getting that in tbh
10:29
but it is just a spec mode indicator and the border tells you the camera is locked
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 10:29
ah lol
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:29
i prefer either a unpause instruction or a camera locked icon
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 10:29
but looks funny
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:30
i think it is pretty cool but a bit obnoxious kek
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i kinda want to just add a fixed border always when you are spectating. but that might be more obnoxious to some people.
10:31
like a camera viewfinder feeling type of thing
10:32
this is all unnecessary if we just remove self spec tho
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TsFreddie
i tried to be clear on what shouldn't be merged so quickly, probably wasn't clear enough.
Tater 2024-12-04 10:39
Next time you should include a new config variable to ensure it gets reviewed carefully kek
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 10:39
😬
10:40
let me remove the config to turn of spec cursor real quick lol
10:42
although those config is probably arguable tho, maybe the old behavior toggle can be removed, if someone says they uses dyncam to spec all the time imma just say just zoom and deal with it, it is not gameplay related nor has any effect in-game. (edited)
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Jupstar ✪
@murpi u think it would be hard to add a simple check for that in the bot? doesn't hurry, but if u have some todo list add it there xd
murpi 2024-12-04 12:14
Yes, this should be simple to implement. On a related note, there's currently no check to prevent duplicate skin names either
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Yes, this should be simple to implement. On a related note, there's currently no check to prevent duplicate skin names either
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 12:15
true, at some point we probably need a bot that can handle all these things and improve the upload process. i generally might also want to have a bot that accepts other assets (in future)
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<ChillerDragon> can we just rename COLORS in ddnet it would safe me a lot of time
Robyt3 2024-12-04 12:41
ChillerDragon: It's just one variable COLORS now, but what about all the other names that curses reserves like ERROR, OK, COLS? Contributors shouldn't have to avoid using specific variable names to support libraries that are not even used by DDNet. Maybe just fork curses and fix their code to not pollute the global namespace? justatest
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Evelyn 2024-12-04 13:23
Write me a python script that will create a fifo file and every specified time will send a command to the rcon that I specify
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Pls
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Write me a python script that will create a fifo file and every specified time will send a command to the rcon that I specify
kebs 2024-12-04 13:31
Chat gpt prompt?
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I think jump and getting hit by hammer are the two most important effects since you'd expect those to change based on tee and they're very often heard
Voxel 2024-12-04 13:34
yeah true. i think for a UX standpoint the hammer hit should sound very similar to the normal one, so it isnt extremely jarring. same goes for the long tee scream. it just wouldnt register as the same without the EEAAHH!
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 13:49
ddnet has not been conflicting until now. I imagine contributing to curses to be quite hard. I played around with some curses compiler flags but could not make it work
Replying to @Robyt3 ChillerDragon: It's just one variable COLORS now, but what about all the…
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If you open a pr while deen is online and Heinrich is afk your chances of getting it merged with in 19 minutes are quite high.
Replying to @Tater there is more responsibility put onto the PR author to make good decisio…
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 14:05
vibe doesn't sound like a healthy way to maintain a project
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Write me a python script that will create a fifo file and every specified time will send a command to the rcon that I specify
Evelyn 2024-12-04 14:10
ChillerDragon please write
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If you open a pr while deen is online and Heinrich is afk your chances of getting it merged with in 19 minutes are quite high.
Voxel 2024-12-04 14:17
ddnet 18.9 update log:
  • robyt3 has been nerfed
  • deen now has the heinrich ai
  • added support for teeworlds 0.5
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:23
You need to set the fifo file path in the config and writing to a fifo file is just writing to a file
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ddnet 18.9 update log:
  • robyt3 has been nerfed
  • deen now has the heinrich ai
  • added support for teeworlds 0.5
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:24
😅 why do i know the last point will come at some point
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:24
I don’t know python file write without looking it up xd but in ruby it’s File.write and in bash it’s >> I’m sure chat gpt can solve that for you
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😅 why do i know the last point will come at some point
Learath2 2024-12-04 14:24
0.5 can't come back, it had security issues, if there is anything heinrich likes more than backwards compatibility, it's security
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0.5 can't come back, it had security issues, if there is anything heinrich likes more than backwards compatibility, it's security
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:24
safe and sound
14:25
even tho you could argue keeping old clients active is risky too
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:25
Yes we should drop those old 0.6 clients
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even tho you could argue keeping old clients active is risky too
Learath2 2024-12-04 14:27
Actually, if you manage to find a security issue with all of them you can pretty much force us to drop all backwards compatibility
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:28
ddnet is 0.6.4 based which has no anti spoof tokens
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Learath2 2024-12-04 14:29
especially if it is remote code execution
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Actually, if you manage to find a security issue with all of them you can pretty much force us to drop all backwards compatibility
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:30
i'd start by removing all clients before ddnet.org xd
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:30
It added its own but ddnet tokens are ugly af. They are at the end of the packet. While proper 0.7 puts them into the packet header
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:30
that should have been a leasson
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but nothing learned
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:30
ddnet.tw is legit
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i'd start by removing all clients before ddnet.org xd
Learath2 2024-12-04 14:30
not like ddnet.tw is more likely to be stolen than ddnet.org
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 14:30
imagine DDNet 11 being separated from DDNet entirely
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Learath2 2024-12-04 14:30
the lesson learned was "don't transfer domains if not absolutely needed"
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:31
anyway
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Learath2 2024-12-04 14:31
or "don't trust OVH"
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:31
only new is for the cool kids
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:31
OVH is fire
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:32
on fire
14:32
you meant
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:32
Yes you got it
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 14:32
greenthing is .io is really gone that would be wild
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:32
like literally
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lmao
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chillerdragon BOT 2024-12-04 14:32
jupszar I missed you
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 14:35
chiller me you 2
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when are you at your 4090 again?
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next time u go to holiday for a year give it to me pls
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but you played well
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4090 went up in price instead of losing it xDDD
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world's so fcked up xD
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Ryozuki 2024-12-04 14:41
brownbear
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TsFreddie 2024-12-04 14:46
brownbear
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deen 2024-12-04 14:50
If you have a Hetzner cloud server, the code CoolifyXHetzner10 on https://console.hetzner.cloud/usage gives you 11.90 €
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You need to set the fifo file path in the config and writing to a fifo file is just writing to a file
Evelyn 2024-12-04 15:05
Well, I can't do it.
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If you have a Hetzner cloud server, the code CoolifyXHetzner10 on https://console.hetzner.cloud/usage gives you 11.90 €
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baked
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 15:09
@Souly extremely nit, but https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/420565311863914496/1313839771784712263 denmark in this screenshot comes first even tho the skins are sorted alphabetically, bcs denmark for whatever reason has a capital first letter in its skin name, while all others of the flag skins have not, should it be renamed? XDD (edited)
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Souly 2024-12-04 15:12
its intended because we wanted to highlight the superiority of Demark
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 15:12
understood
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i am danish now
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Souly 2024-12-04 15:12
jk i will change that in a sec
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its intended because we wanted to highlight the superiority of Demark
meloƞ 2024-12-04 15:12
please the danish people are overtaking
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GitHub BOT 2024-12-04 16:31
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9342 French translation by Yubel

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-ad...
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
ab203b3 Update translation stats - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9343 Update Swedish translations for 18.8

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  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-ad...
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
254debc Update Swedish translations for 18.8 - furo321 c6e7e27 Merge pull request #9343 from furo321/swedish-18.8 - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9343 Update Swedish translations for 18.8
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Souly 2024-12-04 18:41
chillerdragon: hi thanks for making https://github.com/TeeworldsDB
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TeeworldsDB has 13 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.
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i verified a lot of licences and authors thanks to it
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oxyzo 2024-12-04 18:42
TeeworldsDummyBad
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Souly 2024-12-04 18:42
all links on forum all pretty much dead so i cant see the skins there
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Skeith 2024-12-04 18:49
Nice to see moffel's skins get revived
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Souly 2024-12-04 19:08
all because i noticed that alphatee https://ddnet.org/skins/skin/alphatee.png looked weirdly similar to lolhair https://ddnet.org/skins/skin/lolhair.png
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and i found some old forum post
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and then i found another forum post and another forum post
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and now im sitting here filling author names and licences
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 19:29
Finally I get proper flamegraphs. I find it weird that even debug builds suffered so much from it [target.x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] linker = "/usr/bin/clang" rustflags = ["-C", "force-frame-pointers=yes"]
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But I am still annoyed, without --call-graph dwarf the graph is unreadable, and with it it prints [unknown] quite often
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Voxel 2024-12-04 20:06
i cant wait to go home so i can whack frying pans for foley material
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Souly 2024-12-04 20:17
justatest
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9344 Shift+Tab auto complete hotkey conflicts with Steam community overlay hotkey
If you launch the client through steam it's not possible to use the backwards autocomplete without rebinding the steam overlay.
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Actually, if you manage to find a security issue with all of them you can pretty much force us to drop all backwards compatibility
Tater 2024-12-04 20:42
I was thinking earlier that if jupstar had stolen the ddnet.org domain he could have refused to give it back and forced the old clients to die monkalaugh
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 20:44
@Tater WeirdChamp when press ctrl+shift+tab
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Tater 2024-12-04 20:44
that works?
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Voxel 2024-12-04 20:44
^^^^^this
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 20:45
yes
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it does.
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Tater 2024-12-04 20:45
hmm
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my fingers hurt when I do that tho
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 20:46
steam really chose the worst bind xdd
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Tater 2024-12-04 20:46
yes
20:46
every game that has player list or map view on TAB and sprint or crouch on SHIFT has this issue
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 20:46
use right ctrl+shift and tab, ez
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 20:47
lmao
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 20:47
thats why i rebound steam overlay to be on shift+KP_5
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no way i'm accidentally pressing both
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my fingers hurt when I do that tho
Skeith 2024-12-04 20:48
Keep your hand flat and simply shift your hand to the side, thumb hits ctrl, pointer hits shift, middle finger hits tab. greenthing
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Tater 2024-12-04 20:49
omg the steam overlay triggers even if I use RSHIFT+TAB
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@Tater WeirdChamp when press ctrl+shift+tab
Tater 2024-12-04 20:50
have you tried this? it doesn't work?
20:50
when I press control it finishes the autocomplete
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for example:
  • open F1
  • type: "a"
  • press tab a few time
  • attempt ctrl+shift+tab
  • it doesn't work
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 21:13
you cant search forward and in the middle decide to search backwards, even in regular chat iirc
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I was thinking earlier that if jupstar had stolen the ddnet.org domain he could have refused to give it back and forced the old clients to die monkalaugh
Learath2 2024-12-04 21:14
I'd actually be more scared of that. Someone atleast had a motivation to give it back
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Tater 2024-12-04 21:15
I expected the original thief to be one of the least likely people to give it back tbh (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:15
@Robyt3 if i type this command the last entry always shows a black underscore for whatever reason
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you cant search forward and in the middle decide to search backwards, even in regular chat iirc
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TiL
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@Robyt3 if i type this command the last entry always shows a black underscore for whatever reason
Robyt3 2024-12-04 21:17
Looks like it's dependent on the window size. For me on 1920x1080 the last underscore is visible but thinner
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21:18
Maybe clipping a bit wrong?
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:18
possibly
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I'd actually be more scared of that. Someone atleast had a motivation to give it back
Tater 2024-12-04 21:18
wait what was his motivation?
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to give it back
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money was offered? xd
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possibly
Robyt3 2024-12-04 21:19
Doesn't affect other character going down like pq though, only happens with underscores in the last line
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wait what was his motivation?
Learath2 2024-12-04 21:19
He actually seems motivated to keep the old clients alive. So when we had to disable all of them, he just handed it back to save the prehistoric clients
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:19
😮
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Tater 2024-12-04 21:19
fair enough
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 21:20
damn Someone, we could've purged old clients once and for all! AquaTriggered (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:22
melon is brainwashed by me
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 21:22
given i'm currently giving advice on dd-pg yes, please send help!
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melon is brainwashed by me
Learath2 2024-12-04 21:22
I'd guess his concern is more with moderation, blocking all old clients would help a lot
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given i'm currently giving advice on dd-pg yes, please send help!
Learath2 2024-12-04 21:23
Can you brainwash Jupstar into just implementing proper teeworlds compatibility? Be my insider
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Looks like it's dependent on the window size. For me on 1920x1080 the last underscore is visible but thinner
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:23
if u want i can look in renderdoc
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Can you brainwash Jupstar into just implementing proper teeworlds compatibility? Be my insider
meloƞ 2024-12-04 21:23
i can silently slide over source for you to do it, i'll git push --force trust
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greenthing
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:24
oh no 27 days left
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbR5WcyWl18
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Majora's Mask OST - Final Hours Extended (Earthquake + Bells)
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this is me rn
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meloƞ 2024-12-04 21:24
biggest new year present is me being able to code zombies gamemode
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boom
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oxyzo 2024-12-04 21:27
if tee = bad infected then tee infec tee become evil
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if u want i can look in renderdoc
Robyt3 2024-12-04 21:28
Maybe pixel alignment, the size keeps changing while the console is opening/closing, I also got the case where it's only a thin black line
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Maybe pixel alignment, the size keeps changing while the console is opening/closing, I also got the case where it's only a thin black line
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:28
but what kind of insane pixel alignment should that be
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i mean
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we can disable it
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then we know xd
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Robyt3 2024-12-04 21:30
yeah, if you want to investigate I'm not stopping you justatest
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:30
still there
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it really must be clipping ig
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is it cut? xd
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Robyt3 2024-12-04 21:31
but characters like p should go below the underscore
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i'd say the p is cut too
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zoom in
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Robyt3 2024-12-04 21:32
yeah, looks like the rounding is missing
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you could try to disable the clipping to test that
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:32
yep
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Robyt3 2024-12-04 21:33
I guess caused by my console design change because this moved the text a bit
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oh no 27 days left
Teero 2024-12-04 21:40
Until pg release?
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@Tater list me all the ways to crash the client from the serverside
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Tater 2024-12-04 21:45
bad map file?
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Teero 2024-12-04 21:45
hmm yea true
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I'll just vram overflow every botter I encounter (edited)
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Until pg release?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:47
until the year is over
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until the year is over
Teero 2024-12-04 21:47
so until pg releases
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so until pg releases
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:48
pressure is real
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pressure is real
Teero 2024-12-04 21:48
I will try to finish frame forge too
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Let's bet
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We have to make the first release by 1. January
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:49
but to be clear, i plan to switch to public
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i dunno what you understand under release
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twgame is defs not finished until then xd
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Teero 2024-12-04 21:49
first proper public repo
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twgame is defs not finished until then xd
Teero 2024-12-04 21:50
@Zwelf 5€ if you finish twgame with everything jupsti needs until 1. Jan
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Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 21:50
wow, 5€ from teero, that means smth
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all his savings
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Tater 2024-12-04 21:51
no wait, he needs that for his new cpu
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Teero 2024-12-04 21:52
@Zwelf okay I'm sorry I can't give you 5€ but it would still be good to have a playable version (edited)
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9345 Support building Android version on Windows with MSYS2
Support user-defined ANDROID_HOME variable in the cmake_android.sh script to specify different location for the Android SDK installation. See https://developer.android.com/tools/variables#envar for details. Make generation of data integrity index file in the cmake_android.sh script faster by factor >100 in MSYS2 by avoiding the loop over piped output. Locally prepend /usr/bin/ to the PATH variable in the cmake_android.sh script to ensure that the MSYS2 binaries are used inst...
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@Zwelf okay I'm sorry I can't give you 5€ but it would still be good to have a playable version (edited)
Zwelf 2024-12-04 22:19
Physics coverage is one of my next focuses for twgame (But not having time is real 😭)
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can we get a dockerfile that builds the android build? Both of these options look kinda painful ngl
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
4dc2d35 French translation by Yubel - def- ab2cece Merge pull request #9342 from def-/pr-french2 - Robyt3
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9342 French translation by Yubel
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Physics coverage is one of my next focuses for twgame (But not having time is real 😭)
Teero 2024-12-04 22:20
just make some greenthing
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can we get a dockerfile that builds the android build? Both of these options look kinda painful ngl
Robyt3 2024-12-04 22:21
I'll add Android CI next when I have time, but that would only build the debug build
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Physics coverage is one of my next focuses for twgame (But not having time is real 😭)
Teero 2024-12-04 22:21
For example sounds and stuff that jupstar needs from twgame (I think) are important
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Robyt3 2024-12-04 22:21
(and provide it as an artifact)
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Tater 2024-12-04 22:21
why only debug?
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Robyt3 2024-12-04 22:22
Because we shouldn't make our release key public
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Tater 2024-12-04 22:22
you can put it in a github secret and access it in the CI
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For example sounds and stuff that jupstar needs from twgame (I think) are important
Zwelf 2024-12-04 22:22
Some sounds exist. Could look for missing sounds and add them. I assume physics is also important. Anything else?
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you can put it in a github secret and access it in the CI
Robyt3 2024-12-04 22:22
I've never tried it before, can secrets also be files?
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Well, I guess it could also read from the string secret and write a file anyway
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Tater 2024-12-04 22:23
I don't remember seeing a way to do files
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Robyt3 2024-12-04 22:23
Not sure if the release key should be handled like that on GitHub runners
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Tater 2024-12-04 22:23
I think this is kinda the intended use for it
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Some sounds exist. Could look for missing sounds and add them. I assume physics is also important. Anything else?
Teero 2024-12-04 22:23
I haven't checked in in a while. You'd have to ask jupsti @Jupstar ✪
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Tater 2024-12-04 22:24
It would at least be nice to have a triggerable action, the key can be added as a parameter of the github action when you start it
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Some sounds exist. Could look for missing sounds and add them. I assume physics is also important. Anything else?
Jupstar ✪ 2024-12-04 22:37
Yeah physics is defs the most important part 😄
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Palestinian 2024-12-04 23:04
iH lla.. woh era uoy gniod sved؟
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