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try #2 went a lot better but still not what i would call good, but atleast edible

00:48

(edible like the food You order in semi expensive restaurant and then can only cry You went there, yes im talking to You dear reader!)

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3rd try that was cooking simultanelusly ... simultanously... sim... at the same time, went great, might be because fgilling got heavily improved, but also because i made dough paper thin ( some broke, and its hard to consume) but other than that it was first time i was like "damn i want one more"

01:01

tho only made 3 specimens and still have to check how they behave reheated tomorrow

01:01

im dead af have a good night everyone

01:04

Were also steamed 40min and resting 12

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02:26

one of my friends' company signout

02:27

It is currently 01:47. You have been working for 16:51. ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO CLOCK OUT NOW? ~

i don't know man, should he? (edited)

Overlord

@Learath2 @TsFreddie @meloƞ these baozis were the saddest thing I ate in long time, theyl ook sad, they taste sad, filling was ok, altho it lacked spiciness or basically anything

here's a suggestion: don't be sad

TsFreddie

here's a suggestion: don't be sad

Ah yes, ultimate depression lifehack

04:56

i hate my rigidbody moving on its own

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kekw

05:00

huh?

05:00

05:00

i disabled all force applies

05:00

why is bro spinning (edited)

feature not bug

05:05

ddnet 2

I think i'm almost there

justatest

this honestly feel a bit worse than the wheel based ones

05:41

but this is much easier to drift indeed

China moment. We have a max amount of hours we can work per day. If you end up working more the system won’t support tracking it.

Replying to @TsFreddie

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greenthing

05:58

i'm sure the system will pretend they didn't track it during an arbitration

morning

morning

Ryozuki

morning

morning dadddy

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sorry to be a 3rd wheel

ur 3rd gear id say

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i'm metal gear solid rn

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pepeW

08:36

08:36

idk why, the initial turning feels awful

08:37

also the velocity just tanks when landing.

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chillerdragon

China moment. We have a max amount of hours we can work per day. If you end up working more the system won’t support tracking it.

I mean... that just sounds like a bad reason to not pay for overtime that happens for reasons

nap time

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Cats are easily the second best thing god has created

lemme guess, the first best thing is Rust?

no i dont think rust that forms on steel is best

kek

No comment

Learath2

No comment

justatest

Learath scared of saying melons greenthing

greenthing

im eating one rn

13:12

it cries

zhn

it cries

Meh, that's Jeffrey. He do be like that sometimes

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he right tho

more like "dayone" but ok

как фоны сделать (edited)

why do people actually care that mr beast hired a sex offender? am i missing something here??

15:34

are sex offenders not allowed to get a job or something?

15:34

and youtuber seems like a totally ok job

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Ryozuki

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Do you have the template?

16:21

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@Learath2 I thought a lot about yesterday, and I've got a question, if I added too much yeast, could it result in such a weird taste? is it even possible to add too much yeast?

16:59

(added 75g of fresh yeast)

..how much dough did you make

dupes too much

lets say you made 500g dough, you'd roughly add 15-20g of fresh yeast

17:08

maybe even less

meloƞ

..how much dough did you make

i had 650-700g of flour

17:13

and 75g of yeast

17:13

300ml of water

17:13

2 spoons of sugar

thats.. still a lot of fresh yeast

and literally 0 salt ( Im never following recipes again (cries))

17:13

yeah well the online calculators were really weird about that

and high hydration :o - you steamed them didnt you?

yes i steamed them

you could've rolled with 35% hydration easily

and yes the dough was kinda too wet

steaming high hydration dough makes it gooey, which is not always wanted

ach so salvation would be actually baking it?

17:14

btw when taken out of steamer it had firm shape could be squeezed etc wasnt sticky

how was the chewing texture? i guess it comes down to preference

17:15

i usually always roll with 35-40% hydration, only pizza gets 75%

the outside tastes like skin of an old person (or really weird smooth chicken skin)

kekw

btw the entire house smells of yeast whenever i re-heat theem to eat

yeah that's expected

17:16

you added 150% more than needed

do You think the little steamed abomination i have already

17:16

I should just bake them?

nah i think baking ruins the filling

17:16

makes it even dry'er

17:17

maybe you oversteamed?

theoreitcally filling has fatty bacon

17:17

so should stil work somewhat

hm, fair

im gonna give it a shot, air fryer is fast and cheap

17:17

big mistake was no salt the dough is either tasteless or weird tasting

i remember i made dumplings that were horrible i didnt knead the dough enough, i over-hydrated, i steamed to hot which made the outside inedible

also even when i rolled it super thin (that some broke) it still felt too "thick" while eating

never making dumplings again.. my wife makes awesome ones tho kekw

kekw

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meloƞ

never making dumplings again.. my wife makes awesome ones tho kekw

kekw

let me borrow Your wife?

17:18

Im omw to Munich

Overlord

also even when i rolled it super thin (that some broke) it still felt too "thick" while eating

wrong flour-to-water ratio and/or not kneaded enough (edited)

17:19

what flour did you use?

idk about kneading i once kneaded too much and ruined my moms dough aswell

17:19

"luxury flour 550"

17:19

whatever that means

17:19

wheat flour

yeah, try it with 405

17:19

550 is bread flour

17:20

(high protein, tougher)

aight, i will try it either tomorrow or the day after im missing fish sauce for the filling (tbh i miss everthing except yeast)

17:20

i bought 400g of yeast to be on safer side

17:20

>_>>

kekw

400g FRESH YEAST?!

17:20

you can freeze it!

y--y-yes

if you're lucky it survives

how long is its shelf life that I should freeze it (edited)

fresh yeast? ~2weeks before it dies and smells bad

also keep in mind i already used up 75g (edited)

make some pizza starters with it!

what are pizza starters?

pineapple

you prepare pizza dough and keep it in the fridge

17:23

you can then make fresh pizza in ~15 minutes on demand! (edited)

pizza on demand?! WHO IS DEMANIDNG

yeah and like totally add pineapple

pineapple on pizza is actually good depending on other toppings

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greenthing

either way, I dont have space in freezer

17:25

I live with familly of "food hoarders" which means freezerrs are always full and never emptied, then the food spoils

17:25

I tried to explain, that's no way to live but my words fall

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on deaf ears

NOOOO

17:26

tell them, if they get rid of refridgerator content

17:26

you make fresh pizza for 2 weeks straight

17:26

.. i mean you have enough yeast for that already...

wont work, but few years ago I managed to get rid of those huge freezers that are 65% the size of fridge (and wider ) because stuff was only added there, and noone has seen bottom layer in years

17:29

that thing ate so much electricity...

17:30

btw I put 2 out of 4 buns left into arifryer 1 80 degrees for 15 min

17:30

I do ownder how they turn out but i cant eat too much I have gym in 2h to make Ryozuki proud

Overlord

(added 75g of fresh yeast)

That's equivalent to about 25g of instant dry yeast. My recipe has 1:100 ratio of yeast to flour. Yours has 1:30. That's about 3 times the yeast you needed (edited)

Learath2

That's equivalent to about 25g of instant dry yeast. My recipe has 1:100 ratio of yeast to flour. Yours has 1:30. That's about 3 times the yeast you needed (edited)

yes but the question was if it affects taste

It does, yeast has a very distinct taste

17:53

Actually wait, did I miscalculate that?

17:54

I do 2.5g of instant dry yeast to 250g of flour. You did 25g of instant dry yeast to 700g of flour. 0.01 vs 0.03.. yeah, you used 3 times the amount you needed

family execution in a few hours

update, baked is also bad but not that bad

17:57

kinda tastes like store bought stuff

I actually did not see your pic, let me see if I can diagnose what went wrong from the looks

sec I will give U 3

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17:58

(says 3 sends 4, typical yeast boy)

17:58

1. were the first try

seems like it didn't really rise, did you let it rise before you steamed them?

2nd was the second iteration where some spice was added on top of dough

17:59

3rd were made super thin, to reduce the weirdness of doug hadded salt and spices

17:59

4th are baked

Learath2

seems like it didn't really rise, did you let it rise before you steamed them?

yes it was rising for 5 hours

17:59

2h because of reicpe 3h because I had to leave

18:00

overall they also got nearly twice as big while being steamed

18:00

I dont have any picture of them being raw tho

5 hours sounds very long, did it still look risen after?

Learath2

5 hours sounds very long, did it still look risen after?

yes, was like 3 times as big, but when I started punching it in, it was barerly 1.7 I think

That sounds overproofed, did you let them proof again after you filled them?

Learath2

That sounds overproofed, did you let them proof again after you filled them?

hmmm no? iis that a thing, they went straight into steaming pot

i cant close qbittorrent and unmount my external drive

18:03

what do i do

the pot was cold, then super heated

pilonpl

i cant close qbittorrent and unmount my external drive

reboot

Overlord

hmmm no? iis that a thing, they went straight into steaming pot

Yeah, I wrap my bao, then I lay a towel over them and let them rise again for like 20 minutes

18:04

Because you pushed all the air out while you were rolling the dough, it needs a little time to create air pockets again

18:05

Another issue might be that during the 5 hours of proofing the yeast just ran out of food. You already had too much yeast so it is possible. After that with no more food they can't rise again to create bubbles and be fluffy

18:06

It's been a while since I made bao, I have the urge to make some too now

Learath2

Another issue might be that during the 5 hours of proofing the yeast just ran out of food. You already had too much yeast so it is possible. After that with no more food they can't rise again to create bubbles and be fluffy

i added 2 spoons of sugar how much should it be for 75g?

Learath2

It's been a while since I made bao, I have the urge to make some too now

I will be making them again in a day or two, so we can have a competition ( tho an unfair one )

The flour has enough carbs in there for the yeast, the sugar is more there for taste in a bao

18:08

but given you used 3 times the yeast maybe there just werent enough simple sugars in there for the yeast

so the asian lady from video lied, when she said it's for the yeast and wont affect the taste! (tho it didnt taste sweet anywhere at all)

Overlord

so the asian lady from video lied, when she said it's for the yeast and wont affect the taste! (tho it didnt taste sweet anywhere at all)

it's not that she lied, it's that most of these recipes stem from folk knowledge. It's not completely wrong that she said sugar is for the yeast, the yeast will use that simple sugar much easier, but for most doughs we now know that the flour kinda has enough

Learath2

it's not that she lied, it's that most of these recipes stem from folk knowledge. It's not completely wrong that she said sugar is for the yeast, the yeast will use that simple sugar much easier, but for most doughs we now know that the flour kinda has enough

btw what flour would U use? 405 like melon said?

18:10

(wheat 405 flour )

I think I only ever used normal AP flour for baos

AP?:

All purpose

ach I couldnt find one named "universal" / all purpose at the shop

18:11

so i went kinda random

Mine is 11% protein, 00 ground wheat flour

18:12

idk about this 405 stuff, it's not how they name flours in Italy or Turkey

mine's 12g protein

18:13

idk about this stuff too but flours at shop had "type 550, type 450" etc

I looked up a table, 405 sounds like what I use

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18:15

00 in Italian

oh it's a german standard

18:15

i thought it's a general term

18:15

kekw

meloƞ

oh it's a german standard

another proof poland's germanisied!

18:16

cant believe i actually got rall purpose flour but it failed me ( or to be exact i failed it )

18:16

so it's better to add less yeast more flour if im to make mistakes?

To be fair, that doesn't look like the fault of the flour

18:17

The higher the protein/ash content the "chewier" it'll be, so a less proteiny flour is better for "fluffier" bao, but as I said, mine has 11% protein even though it's ground fine, it's still "fluffy" enough

Overlord

so it's better to add less yeast more flour if im to make mistakes?

Please just follow a recipe. 1% active dry yeast works for me

Learath2

Please just follow a recipe. 1% active dry yeast works for me

hi, I wanted to, i even got a scale for that purpose, but then I realised tehy have some weird yeast while mine's wet :l

learath was right with everythin said if you beat your dough, let it rise again find a good ratio of flour to water give yeast something to snack on (most people just add a pinch of sault, and a tablespoon of sugar) a good rule of thumb is ~2% FRESH yeast to flower ratio (edited)

then I went to online calcualtors etc

18:18

and it were in table spoons

If you want to use fresh yeast 2% fresh yeast should be about equivalent to 1% ady

ye

meloƞ

learath was right with everythin said if you beat your dough, let it rise again find a good ratio of flour to water give yeast something to snack on (most people just add a pinch of sault, and a tablespoon of sugar) a good rule of thumb is ~2% FRESH yeast to flower ratio (edited)

but-but the recipe said to beat it so it doesnt have any air, if I let it rise again it would have air

wha

18:19

beat the recipe maker up

I cant beat popular asian women

believe in yourself!

https://youtu.be/VhMV1-ZON10?si=oh1diI9dHW6WLAJI&t=372

Souped Up Recipes

How to Make Perfect Steamed Bao Buns (Chicken Baozi Recipe)

never say never

at this exact minute

its best to: let rise ~1h work with let rise again ~20mins bake/steam/ whatever that atleast always worked for me (edited)

Overlord

but-but the recipe said to beat it so it doesnt have any air, if I let it rise again it would have air

I lay a very lightly moist towel over my proofing dough so it doesn't dry out and develop a skin

I put a dry towel, I also had to put it in oven (where it was around 30 degrees) because my house was 12 a that time

Yeah you do need a warm place or a loong proof

yeah I really thought I will finish them before having to leave, well doing all these mistakes taught me a lot

Here is what I have in my notes for the dough: 250g flour 125g water 5g sugar 2.5g active dry yeast

im gonna violate chinese traditional food once again soon, till they deny me a visa to china without even applying

Learath2

Here is what I have in my notes for the dough: 250g flour 125g water 5g sugar 2.5g active dry yeast

so 5g of wet yeast?

I probably straight lifted this from someones recipe, I don't mess with doughs unless I don't like them

Overlord

so 5g of wet yeast?

Yes

ok, stolen and saved

18:23

for how many buns is that?

I don't have it in my notes boss

:/ that's fine I will quadruple it then

18:25

afterall I gotta feed an army, and I wish I could feed the freezer

18:25

these buns take a lot of time to make.

Overlord

:/ that's fine I will quadruple it then

A kilo of flour is big boy stuff

aight I will just make the dough 4 times

I'd guess it'd make about 6-8 bao, because I remember having to give away a couple

I cant believe its just 5g of yeast

18:26

I bought so mmuch of it...

You can make bread with the rest

Learath2

Here is what I have in my notes for the dough: 250g flour 125g water 5g sugar 2.5g active dry yeast

btw why there's no salt

Overlord

btw why there's no salt

idk, as I said I straight lifted this from somewhere, it tasted fine so I didn't mess with it

have U eaten the steamed bum from 7/11 in JP?

18:27

that's the thing im aiming for tbh

Overlord

I bought so mmuch of it...

Time to start making booze

Actually nope, didn't try one from 7/11

Learath2

Actually nope, didn't try one from 7/11

lawson maybe?

risu

Time to start making booze

with my skill I would go blind

I think I only had bao once in japan, in Osaka at a 551 Horai

Overlord

with my skill I would go blind

Actually it turns out the thing about methanol is a myth that started with illegal brewers cutting their product with industrial alcohol

Learath2

I think I only had bao once in japan, in Osaka at a 551 Horai

i had the ones in 7/11 and one at maid cafe and the at maid cafe were terrible (not because of dough but filling + not heated properly, only one was actually hot/warm)

Overlord

with my skill I would go blind

it would be impressive if you manage to generate enough methanol unless you are making like some distilled alcohol

Or at least that's what I learned when I went on a brewing Youtube binge that one time

Overlord

i had the ones in 7/11 and one at maid cafe and the at maid cafe were terrible (not because of dough but filling + not heated properly, only one was actually hot/warm)

There might be nothing sadder than a cold bao

now I imagined my own bao but also cold

(don't be disheartened btw, it's hard to get yeasted doughs right at a first attempt, they are finnicky)

Overlord

with my skill I would go blind

make mead with it its literally just water, honey, yeast and time

18:32

and it's.. so fucking good

meloƞ

make mead with it its literally just water, honey, yeast and time

have U seen the price of honey?!

nah i dont eat honey

18:32

kekw

check the price anyway!

I have a bread recipe that works perfectly in Italy and turns out like a brick in Turkey. I still to this day do not understand what is going wrong

we had a local beekeeper who would give out kilo's for free

18:32

skill issue

Learath2

I have a bread recipe that works perfectly in Italy and turns out like a brick in Turkey. I still to this day do not understand what is going wrong

altitude?

One day I'll carry the ingredients from here and see if it still doesn't work

Learath2

One day I'll carry the ingredients from here and see if it still doesn't work

lmao

18:33

learath's new blogpost: why on earth is the pure existence in turkey ruining italian bread

meloƞ

nah i dont eat honey

Allergies?

he's vegan

Learath2

Allergies?

veganism! - i use agave syrup for mead

Ah true, I forget vegans don't eat honey either

i do eat honey from my local beekeeper

18:34

this dude loves his bee's they happy

meloƞ

i made something similar, with green spinach, onions, crispy bacon bits and cream a few years ago, was really good

also vegan melon (eating crispy bacon bits) (edited)

"a few years ago"

Honestly this one I do not really understand. Beekeeping is probably the most ethical and in tune with the nature form of agriculture

i wasnt born vegan kekw

kekw

Learath2

Honestly this one I do not really understand. Beekeeping is probably the most ethical and in tune with the nature form of agriculture

well honey is a greyzone, ~~many~~ some people consider honey to be vegan, you can't really force unhappy bee's to produce honey (edited)

18:35

because unhappy bee's just fuckin die

then milk should be allowed too!

Honey production is probably less harmful to the nature than many of the vegetables we produce

Overlord

then milk should be allowed too!

milk is allowed for baby moo moo's not for grown up adults (edited)

Overlord

then milk should be allowed too!

We treat cows like shit

but i really dont feel like converting anyone kek

kek

- i dont want to fulfill the stereotype, trying to convince others to become vegan

meloƞ

milk is allowed for baby moo moo's not for grown up adults (edited)

I still dont understand this mentality, knowing that plants also have nervous systems just cannot scream out loud

meloƞ

well honey is a greyzone, ~~many~~ some people consider honey to be vegan, you can't really force unhappy bee's to produce honey (edited)

you can't really force bees to do anything actually, if they don't like it they can also just fuck off and you can't do much about it

greenthing

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meloƞ

but i really dont feel like converting anyone kek

kek

- i dont want to fulfill the stereotype, trying to convince others to become vegan

U should teach the palestinian dude

it's not my job to convince others to do what i do

18:37

i only provide information if asked

i mean U could convince him, not to teach other's the right way

That's not what I was asking for anyway. I was curious why vegans don't eat honey (edited)

yesterday i was way too tired to write 5 pages monologue

Overlord

yesterday i was way too tired to write 5 pages monologue

Is he still trying to get a conversion?

the mead should be sealed tight and only opened when done?

Learath2

That's not what I was asking for anyway. I was curious why vegans don't eat honey (edited)

hm, hard to say veganism in general is the full abstention from animal products and produce, tho people split this up aswell but that's another topic. so it makes sense that if bee = animal bee = honey animal from honey vegan say no to honey

Learath2

Is he still trying to get a conversion?

yesterday, he put a video message why not let kids celebrate halloween, wether they're jewish kids christian or muslim

18:39

the points were somewhat stupid, especially "4 times as many kids get in traffic accident during haloween than any other night"

18:39

which is obvious because there are 10x as much kids outside?

Overlord

the mead should be sealed tight and only opened when done?

I don't brew much since "the incident", you want an airlock unless you want an "incident" like mine

Learath2

I don't brew much since "the incident", you want an airlock unless you want an "incident" like mine

it blew up right?

meloƞ

it blew up right?

Yes, and it was contaminated, and I had to clean nasty e coli juice from the ceiling

feelsbadman

18:40

i had that happen too

mmm my mom often made alcohol in the past, and we only had to get rid of her "trying out to make sake" ever

18:40

tbh i dont have where to keep a big ass jar

Overlord

tbh i dont have where to keep a big ass jar

under your bed

meloƞ

hm, hard to say veganism in general is the full abstention from animal products and produce, tho people split this up aswell but that's another topic. so it makes sense that if bee = animal bee = honey animal from honey vegan say no to honey

I guess that's a simple way of looking at it. I usually think more in terms of root cause. As in why you are vegan in the first place mattering more than simple definitions

meloƞ

under your bed

its full of not my stuff, I live in ware house that's 2.5x2m (edited)

Overlord

tbh i dont have where to keep a big ass jar

I had it on the floor, next to my table

Learath2

I had it on the floor, next to my table

doesnt light affect it badly?

I had an opaque container

18:42

I doubt it has much of an effect at all tbh, except maybe accelerate it by heating it up?

I wont risk it with alcohol, mostly because If it goes bad I would be like "i guess its just supposed to taste like this since its self made!"

Learath2

I guess that's a simple way of looking at it. I usually think more in terms of root cause. As in why you are vegan in the first place mattering more than simple definitions

my root cause of becoming vegan is an interesting story in short: i worked as a chef in a noble restaurant when i was ~16 y/o, and i was the one throwing away kilograms of animal products (meat, fish, cutoff's etc) almost daily - it pissed me off so much i decided to never go eat animal products when going out so atleast i dont "force" any kitchen to do that because of me at some point i just stopped buying any producs for myself and only when someone made food for me that contained it and now it's just a habit really (edited)

Overlord

I wont risk it with alcohol, mostly because If it goes bad I would be like "i guess its just supposed to taste like this since its self made!"

Eh, it's not worth bothering with IMO. Commercial breweries make consistently good beer. I make sometimes ok beer, it's just a waste of my time and ingredients

18:44

It is however a fun hobby for a while

meloƞ

my root cause of becoming vegan is an interesting story in short: i worked as a chef in a noble restaurant when i was ~16 y/o, and i was the one throwing away kilograms of animal products (meat, fish, cutoff's etc) almost daily - it pissed me off so much i decided to never go eat animal products when going out so atleast i dont "force" any kitchen to do that because of me at some point i just stopped buying any producs for myself and only when someone made food for me that contained it and now it's just a habit really (edited)

eyy that restaurant had the cool head chef, who harass women!

Until it explodes and you have to clean weird liquid from walls

Overlord

eyy that restaurant had the cool head chef, who harass women!

YOU REMEMBER!!!

18:44

kekw

meloƞ

my root cause of becoming vegan is an interesting story in short: i worked as a chef in a noble restaurant when i was ~16 y/o, and i was the one throwing away kilograms of animal products (meat, fish, cutoff's etc) almost daily - it pissed me off so much i decided to never go eat animal products when going out so atleast i dont "force" any kitchen to do that because of me at some point i just stopped buying any producs for myself and only when someone made food for me that contained it and now it's just a habit really (edited)

This is one I actually haven't heard before, but I really can see it happening, especially if you are good with cooking

meloƞ

my root cause of becoming vegan is an interesting story in short: i worked as a chef in a noble restaurant when i was ~16 y/o, and i was the one throwing away kilograms of animal products (meat, fish, cutoff's etc) almost daily - it pissed me off so much i decided to never go eat animal products when going out so atleast i dont "force" any kitchen to do that because of me at some point i just stopped buying any producs for myself and only when someone made food for me that contained it and now it's just a habit really (edited)

wait, if You dont order meat, doesnt it meant they actually throw away more?

Overlord

wait, if You dont order meat, doesnt it meant they actually throw away more?

the stuff i threw away were things not eaten by guests, my chef made sure not to overbuy on these products

Vegan food is hard to get right in general, you need to be on point with your spices

it's humans with lack of respect of living beings

idk why but in my head vegetarian = good veganism = bad

so they eat 30% of a steak and throw away the rest

Overlord

idk why but in my head vegetarian = good veganism = bad

it's the crusaders, there are no vegetarian crusaders

Overlord

idk why but in my head vegetarian = good veganism = bad

yeah i can see that, many people see veganism as extremism

I hated rust for a while for the exact same reason

kek

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18:46

Annoying ass missionaries telling me my programming language is doo doo and how rust can do it better

isn't your main lang Go ?

18:46

Go is pretty good

18:46

i liked coding in it

How dare you? (edited)

apart from assembly ofc

18:47

sorry papa

he is C boy

I'm a C99 enthusiast

which is the only "right" programming language in my eyes, depsite not programming myself

Go is just what I've been using at work, and yes, you are right that it's pretty good

tho ngl, if You need something fast and messy just python

Go is my fast and messy nowadays

my fast and messy is typescript kekw

kekw

Very easy to handle dependencies, very easy to code in, large stdlib to help you out

@meloƞ why not vegetarian then? they dont eat meat afaik? or U had to throw milk and stuff away too? ( really curious how one decideds between these two, my uncle's been a vegetarian for 30-40 years so far)

go is pretty much as simple as python and it just straight outperforms it in almost everything

18:51

^ go programmer at his best

Overlord

@meloƞ why not vegetarian then? they dont eat meat afaik? or U had to throw milk and stuff away too? ( really curious how one decideds between these two, my uncle's been a vegetarian for 30-40 years so far)

i grew out of the taste basically. i dont enjoy drinking milk, or eating eggs anymore

18:52

i tried both like.. 1 1/2 years ago?

so 5.5 years ago?

meloƞ

i grew out of the taste basically. i dont enjoy drinking milk, or eating eggs anymore

No choccy milk? pepeSadge

pepeSadge

I feel You on the eggs tho, if I eat scrambled eggs in the morning i feel bad and like puking entire day

I suddenly got an idea for a bao filling. I'll try corn and cheese filled bao

I would add spinach, Melon really made me think I missed spinach in my first bao try

Eggs are like one of the important magic ingredients, you can't go without them!

risu

Eggs are like one of the important magic ingredients, you can't go without them!

i eat them, just in the evening

Or maybe you can but you'll struggle with texture

Taking out eggs and cheese from my diet would probably be the very hardest part of becoming vegan for me

18:55

The rest I can probably manage somehow

18:55

Actually wait, no fish is also not possible

18:55

Yeah I can't be a vegan

There are certain ingredients that I consider magic because they have abnormal powers

Is there such a thing as "pescavegan"?

Learath2

Taking out eggs and cheese from my diet would probably be the very hardest part of becoming vegan for me

im huge fan of pork knuckle and grilled/fried ribs, but every year I can eat it less and less, because the fat makes me feel like im about to pass out/ puke/ die so You would prolly learn to live without it / in small amounts

Learath2

Is there such a thing as "pescavegan"?

apparently it is a thing and they are treated like shit in the online vegan communities

18:57

I guess not

Learath2

apparently it is a thing and they are treated like shit in the online vegan communities

so they're treated like meat eaters, but also shunned by meat eaters?

Overlord

so they're treated like meat eaters, but also shunned by meat eaters?

I'm sure the pescatarians would take them

19:00

Online vegans are a special breed

pescatarian make 3% of adult population?!

19:01

they could even make a nation lol

flexitarian sounds like something I could do

19:02

I actually probably am accidentally a flexitarian now that I think about it

Learath2

flexitarian sounds like something I could do

judging by name without knowing it, sounds like omnivore

A flexitarian diet, also called a semi-vegetarian or fauxtarian diet,[1] is one that is centered on plant foods with limited or occasional inclusion of meat.[2][3][4][5] For example, a flexitarian might eat meat only some days each week

@meloƞ have You played Gothic games? considering You are german

I'm actually way too lazy to cook meat sometimes for weeks at a time

Learath2

I'm actually way too lazy to cook meat sometimes for weeks at a time

wtf meat's the feastest to make?

19:03

wash, cut, fry?

19:03

all in 5 minutes

Overlord

wtf meat's the feastest to make?

but I have to either have it already in my freezer or need to go out and buy it

meanwhile depending on garlic type You can take off the clover "skin" forever

I don't keep a massive stock of meat

In most parts of the world you should skip the washing

And I need to defrost it if it's frozen

risu

In most parts of the world you should skip the washing

why?

(I don't wash meat either)

Learath2

And I need to defrost it if it's frozen

och, I didnt consider that,... because I cant use reezer

19:04

wtf why You two dont wash it

With very very few exceptions, I'll wash bones after a first boil when making clear chinese broth

have You ever been at the butchers?

19:04

and seen how it's treated?

Overlord

why?

Because it is cleaner before you touch it than during any step of your preparation

Overlord

and seen how it's treated?

I like some ecoli with my beef, it's extra nutrients

risu

Because it is cleaner before you touch it than during any step of your preparation

okay aside from making it micned meat, if You want to cook it You have to touch it

19:05

so it's gonna be in contact with you anyways (edited)

(also you have 0 hope of getting anything off of meat, your water isn't going to kill bacteria and you won't wash it with soap because disgusting)

Learath2

(also you have 0 hope of getting anything off of meat, your water isn't going to kill bacteria and you won't wash it with soap because disgusting)

yes but they aren't perfect at the butcher, and there are bits of bacon that arent bacon, that You can feel by touching

19:06

else You have to look at it all closely to find those, which are sometimes same colour

19:07

and for chicken You can take off that "membrane"

19:07

+ get rid of blood

19:07

ik some people eat "blood soups" but >_>

19:07

I dont wash beef tho

19:08

as for pig knuckle and legs, I wash them, boil for 15 min, then change water and boil them for*\hours then (edited)

Overlord

and for chicken You can take off that "membrane"

I will usually trim the chicken at home before cooking, but I won't wash it, for two reasons:

You'll just end up splashing salmonella everywhere
There is nothing to wash off that can be washed off, the blood will usually just come off with the membrane, if it doesn't I don't mind a tiny bit of blood

Overlord

as for pig knuckle and legs, I wash them, boil for 15 min, then change water and boil them for*\hours then (edited)

Yeah, this is good practice for stuff like knuckles

Learath2

I will usually trim the chicken at home before cooking, but I won't wash it, for two reasons:

You'll just end up splashing salmonella everywhere
There is nothing to wash off that can be washed off, the blood will usually just come off with the membrane, if it doesn't I don't mind a tiny bit of blood

okay this might make sense for chicken

19:10

but how about bacon strips / ribs

19:10

I usuaslly wash ribs, and then dry them in paper cloth

Bacon is highly processed here, I've never seen any bacon piece that I wanted to "trim" or "clean"

btw whenever i say bacon i always mean this

19:11

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RIbs I cook very rarely, my butcher usually does a great job, but I don't see why I'd wash it even if he didn't, I might trim it more

how is it called in english

19:11

because im starting to get a feeling it's not bacon

Ah just a slab of pork belly

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Another thing I don't cook much, so idk if it's appropriate to wash

and this is smoked bacon?

19:12

or how is it called in eng

Overlord

or how is it called in eng

I'd call it just bacon

acha

19:12

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19:12

^ is steamed / boiled bacon

19:13

which is different from smoked >_>

19:13

english language did pigs dirty

Learath2

Another thing I don't cook much, so idk if it's appropriate to wash

I mostly do pork belly, so I dont have to add sunflower / plant based oils

19:14

+ there's nearly no difference in price between pork belly and chicken

I think I only ever make char siu with pork belly

looking great

Overlord

I mostly do pork belly, so I dont have to add sunflower / plant based oils

me these days cooking everything with just butter Plant based oils? What are those?

Overlord

looking great

What do you make with pork belly usually?

risu

me these days cooking everything with just butter Plant based oils? What are those?

I did this for a while, but it's hard to fry stuff with it because you need to either clarify it or buy clarified butter

ok yeah I don't fry stuff much... or more like, ever

Learath2

What do you make with pork belly usually?

hard to say because I "come up with those myself" but most often, cut in sizeable squareish chunks, fry on wok, add veggies

Then I just gave up and started using peanut oil for my frying again

then rest depends on sauces

19:17

add sauces like oyster fish oil, soy, or hoisin / sour and sweet / chili / sricrqacha / sweet and spicy

19:18

I like when food's "fast" to make

19:18

I also make these many hours things in oven

So you use it like just a random piece of meat

last time i made chuck steak? covered in pork belly fat

19:19

and cooked for like 6h ( free electricity ) ( not at home tho ) (edited)

Learath2

So you use it like just a random piece of meat

I have grown up in a household that made me hate cooking, so I cook "outside"

19:19

hence why I only do one pan dishes most of the time

19:20

there's only one recipe i want to make with bacon, and that's vietnamese one You simmer for hours in a big pot, with eggs and stuff

Hm, this is one idk

‘thịt kho tàu’

19:22

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19:22

aside from short time on pan, it's pretty much one pot recipe >_<

How did you even find this? It's hard to find an english recipe even

justatest

1

if I say "it was revealed to me in a dream" would You believe that?

Huh?

I stumbled upon it mixing words like bacon / pig and vietnam

19:26

@murpi is a terrible way to get recipes, he doesnt know any!

19:27

I like asian recipes, because most often they use everything, there's no trim and throw away

19:28

+ I dont have to worry about presentation too much

19:29

also side note, considering I never use recipes, I always end with different dish even when trying to recreate one i already did, because amount of stuff I add always differ

I cook asian a lot because that's what my pantry is mostly set up for. I have a wide array of east asian stuff

19:29

The secondary option I have is Turkish and Italian. I have a lot of the required stuff for those too

Overlord

also side note, considering I never use recipes, I always end with different dish even when trying to recreate one i already did, because amount of stuff I add always differ

Eyeballing is the way unleash your inner artist

Learath2

I cook asian a lot because that's what my pantry is mostly set up for. I have a wide array of east asian stuff

also ngl U ate western and southern probably all Ur life

risu

Eyeballing is the way unleash your inner artist

eyeballing? are we going back into* hentai territory? (edited)

19:30

tf is eyeballing

wait are you joking or not?

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WTF is that Wikipedia result

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodka_eyeballing

Vodka eyeballing

Vodka eyeballing is the practice of consuming vodka by pouring it into the eye sockets, where it is absorbed through the mucous membranes of the region into the bloodstream. Reports of this practice as a new fad surfaced in the media beginning in 2010, as hundreds of clips of persons purporting to engage in the practice were posted on YouTube. T...

19:31

idk looks retarded

(transitive, informal) To gauge, estimate or judge by eye, rather than measuring precisely; to look or glance at.

ah yes pour vodka in your eyes

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eyeball

lowercase eyeball

risu

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eyeball

i mean i know what eyeball is, aka an eye, but iddk what eyeballing is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry

Furry may refer to: Being covered with fur Furry fandom, a subculture interested in non-human animal characters with human personalities and characteristics Furry convention, a formal gathering of those who participate in the furry fandom Wendell H. Furry (1907–1984), an American physicist Furry Lewis (Walter E. Lewis, 1893 or 1899–1981), an Am...

oxyzo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry

@TsFreddie mentioned

Overlord

i mean i know what eyeball is, aka an eye, but iddk what eyeballing is

balling but with your eyes

Overlord

i mean i know what eyeball is, aka an eye, but iddk what eyeballing is

Verb eyeball (third-person singular simple present eyeballs, present participle eyeballing, simple past and past participle eyeballed) (transitive, informal) To gauge, estimate or judge by eye, rather than measuring precisely; to look or glance at

risu

Verb eyeball (third-person singular simple present eyeballs, present participle eyeballing, simple past and past participle eyeballed) (transitive, informal) To gauge, estimate or judge by eye, rather than measuring precisely; to look or glance at

ach I guessed it might be that just wanted to be sure

19:33

but i only guessed due to Ur 2nd setnence

19:34

either way, I made a soup once my fmailly loved it, and now they're asking me for it again on some party they're preparing

19:34

and I have 0 idea, notes etc how it was made

19:34

I remember it tasting like shit, then "fixing it" and was great

justatest

I eat everything, aka I have no "standards" but I can tell if it tastes nice or bad

19:35

och god im late for the gym

19:35

19:36

i so badly dont want to go, but then ryozuki will scoff at me

Overlord

@meloƞ have You played Gothic games? considering You are german

yes!

Overlord

@TsFreddie mentioned

i was too busy in #developer today, didn't see your ping

20:11

kek

Each time im doing thre gym im always like "i could be reading that book"

meloƞ

yes!

Then in gothic 3 in nordmar they say one must eat meat, to be strong not like those plant eating weaklings from the central plains / middle (forgot name)

me: i should sleep also me:

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@TsFreddie to think we had more convos when i was desynced from Ur time zone, than when i actually sync a bit

justatest

Be my gym buddy, so somone keeps me in chrck

https://youtu.be/Vp3X3ZArS7Q

When Undersea Cables Get Cut

20:36

But why would china do that?

20:36

I don't think one cable is all that important

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