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TsFreddie 2024-11-25 02:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soy4jGPHr3g

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テトリス / 重音テトSV

hi freddie

hi souly

TsFreddie

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Iced coffe? In winter?!

never drink hot drinks

Any reason?

i don't like hot drinks

For me that amount of ice cubes is too much - cold - watery

also i'm wearing shorts in door

Im not even wearing pants!

03:32

(Im on the toilet tho)

pic or false

nice wall

Thanks! I made it like this myself

Not so nice wall

Except the sponge like substance

03:33

Toilet is the only part of home that doesnt have heating

03:34

Going in always reminds me of where they put alcoholics

do you take shower in there

After they make a mess in public

TsFreddie

do you take shower in there

Nope

epic

03:34

we have heating in the restroom tho

I will too, its aleeady "prepared"

03:35

All it lacks is the tiles and then hydro guy can come in and attach radiator

03:35

(Plumber)

hydro guy sounds like a off-brand superhero

They lowkey are

03:36

Imagine going through the winter without heating

03:36

Or constantly smelling shit from the drain

03:36

Or water not going down the drain

03:36

Simple stuff but quality of life gors up

03:37

Btw ngl hydro guy earns in 18h what normal human does in a month

does he work for a company

Yes they all do And work unifficially later

then the guy probably doesn't make that much

03:38

it's all going to the corp

So they have all the benefits of being employed and the benefits of untaxed money

03:38

Here the 18h i mentioned were untaxed

oof

03:38

03:38

too bad labor cost is so cheap in china

03:39

even unofficially

Labour costs and materials

03:40

Went insanely high in last 10 years i think

i once tipped a guy and he can not understand what i'm selling him

It really feels better to be laboyrer than an IT xd

TsFreddie

i once tipped a guy and he can not understand what i'm selling him

Being too nice sounds like a scam to me too

i probably won't tip anymore since now i got elevators

03:41

i used to tip people for climbing all the way up to 9th floor

Bruh

cuz none of the delivery fee and service fee account for the almost impossible stairs

I personally hate tipping unless its "thr change" aka cost is 46,79 and i pay 50 by cash

comma separator momoent (edited)

Tbh idk if they use dot or comma in pl

although i hate that the chinese does not use separators

So i press random rach time

03:43

i thought it would be pretty obvious in apps and banks etc

Och i dont check thay once since i quit the job

03:43

But true will do so

fair enough

Its comma, but i wish they didnt use any separator there!

just checked my bank's app, apparently we started using comma as well

If i keep checking bank app i will fall in comma

comma separator, dot decimal

The funds are gone! Where is binance!

i just transfered like 50k to my mom

03:45

03:45

i'm already poor

TsFreddie

i just transfered like 50k to my mom

Good choice tho

03:46

3 months before i quit i gave my mom my entire monthly salary

no idea why tourist visa requires a financial check

Where?

japan

Been there, no financial check?

Only question if i bring more than 1mln jpy in cash

then maybe it is just a china thing

Maybe, they making sure tourists have cash and arent there to steal yer jobs!

03:47

03:48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNdx0yqbZE

DECO*27

DECO*27 - モニタリング feat. 初音ミク

Seen it for 30 sec

03:48

Today had no more time

03:49

Wont ruin it with phones speakers

The damn lass been in my wifi for years, rent free

03:50

God i need to fix the scheldue, else i will never get to the swimming pool during "working hours"

03:51

Where all wagies and their kids are at work School and its free

03:51

(Tbh kids have swimming lessons so not fully free)

03:52

Tho after today I feel like crap

TsFreddie

then maybe it is just a china thing

xdddd

03:57

sounds racist af

zhn

sounds racist af

Just a smart mom on her way to a host club!

03:58

Anyway frllas thats it for today, have a wondefull night, and i aint fixing rm spelling mistakes

zhn

sounds racist af

The Japanese are known for partaking in that sorta thing :)

zhn

sounds racist af

i mean technically we are all asians

risu

The Japanese are known for partaking in that sorta thing :)

yeah i know

TsFreddie

i mean technically we are all asians

tell this to old japanese man

04:13

04:14

does old japanese men consider themselves as non-asians?

i think they will make some kind of asians

04:18

less asian

04:18

04:22

me trying to make drifting and failed

04:22

i mean it is technically drifting i guess

04:22

but it is just not going anywhere

TsFreddie

me trying to make drifting and failed

Did you try to make drifting as a game mechanic or did you try to write physics that result in drifting as a natural consequence?

trying to make arcade drifting, so the former

My general approach would be doing the latter, and to make it more arcadey try to detect when the player is trying to drift and add some magical extra forces that make the drift feel better

i'm consideing ditching the wheel suspension physics

You added the deja but you forgot the vu, Freddie greenthing

i'm just using godot's built-in wheel

TsFreddie

i'm consideing ditching the wheel suspension physics

I think that's a totally reasonable decision

but i don't really want to code a custom physics tbh

04:27

just want something quick and dirty to work

Dealing with realistic suspension is hard, so for an arcadey game it might be best to only have the suspension affect the visuals

i mean godot's wheel is not really realistic

04:28

04:30

i think i might be getting there

04:30

I don't think writing custom physics should be too hard Just think about what happens on the contact patch between the wheel and ground and pull something that vaguely models that interaction out of your ass

if it is a more squarish car, i would just use a ball, and just make it a ball roller physics

lol

using a ball on this messes up with wall tho cuz it is a bit thin

04:32

i might just use a ball i guess

I caught up on Genshin leaks just now and I'm so disappointed :( Mavuika does not appear to do what most people hoped for, Citlali does not appear to be very useful for me at all, and the Lantern Rite release Liyue 4* is super cute but also super useless :( :( :(

TsFreddie

never drink hot drinks

based

idk I think drinking hot drinks every season might require more basedness than drinking cold drinks every season

05:50

drinking tea when you're already sweating is oddly enjoyable

i feel like i'm too used to unity's quaternion

06:04

godot's rotation feels a bit awkward to me lol

I have never used any engine and godot feels awkward to me

06:22

There are so many features

pilonpl

There are so many features

To me it feels so easy that I feel like I'm cheating and I should just go and write my own engine I've suffered reading games' source code for documentation enough times to where a well documented and simply structured engine just feels like a baby version of the real thing

I think for simple 2D games an engine is not really necessary

06:29

I guess games in general are hard to make

me: it's not that hard

06:35

also me: haven't made anything worth playing

I have never finished a game :)

also godot doesnt have nearly enough feature for it to be a artist first engine. which general purpose engines are moving towards anyway

TsFreddie

also godot doesnt have nearly enough feature for it to be a artist first engine. which general purpose engines are moving towards anyway

As a technical artist at heart I say screw artist first approaches, art made with code performs better and looks cleaner anyways >:3

06:39

say that to all those wannabe AAA studios where they only hire artists

of course I do appreciate having people around who can actually draw well and such, but I'd prefer to be the interface between them and the code, rather than have them interface with the software directly

interfacing with artists are fun until it is not

06:40

true...

06:40

previous employer has a intern only approach

of course my approach is probably slower and more expensive

we hire interns and rotate them quaterly

06:41

which is a nightmare to interface

but when you have someone who actually does graphics programming in charge you can get stuff that makes much better use of the hardware and achieve more advanced effects

that late stage i just gave up and locked all our asset processing pipeline, and wrote validation for every assets and just told them not to bother me until they figure out how to pass validation

06:43

06:43

and when they can't deliver i just make assets myself

06:43

then i quit

06:44

I think games in general should be designed with systems as a core focus

06:45

the more of your game that follows a consistent set of rules the more believable your world will feel

i just wish everyone in the team understand how game engine works

06:45

i'm like the only one that knows how to use unity

06:45

"artistic cohesion though architecture" ooh, what a pleasant string of words

our designer keep importing like 100 different materials and shaders from god-knows-where

06:47

every time we do an asset sync i spend 48 hours non-stop to rewrite all the shader and make sure the shader variants doesn't explode

06:47

so artist first engine do have its place

risu

"artistic cohesion though architecture" ooh, what a pleasant string of words

maybe you could even go as far as calling it "architecture-driven art direction" yeah I live in a fantasy land of never having done game dev professionally

just put everything in there and the engine figures out how to render everything

06:48

i keep telling our designer not to use third-party shader, at least remake the material using our own pipeline

06:48

but they always say, "it shows up on my screen, why would it be a problem" (edited)

TsFreddie

but they always say, "it shows up on my screen, why would it be a problem" (edited)

do they not understand the concept of performance cost?

06:50

Or do they just think it's not a problem (because you haven't let it become a problem)?

who knows

06:50

i quit already

06:50

i'm sure not gonna go back and ask

they probably don't know how big of a problem it is

06:51

cuz they don't know how to test it on device

oh no you're developing for mobile?

i teach them everytime they want to run it on device. then i just stopped, so they think i don't want them to run the project in device

06:51

mobile VR

5 year old chip, 72fps, double the rendering

06:52

imagine

No wonder we don't have good VR games coming out... everything's developed for damned head mounted PHONES

i mean old technique really doesn't look half bad

06:53

it can do a lot

06:53

but modern engine is too heavy

Yeah true if you're responsible with your performance budget...

06:53

meanwhile our tech lead keep asking me to port our game to unreal so we don't have to bother with programming too much (edited)

see this is why I preach architecture-driven art direction (yeah I'm running with that phrase lol) (edited)

but we can't run nanite on mobile and nearly every artists first feature is not available for mobile

06:54

idk why he'd think that we could just throw everything in engine and it would just works

TsFreddie

meanwhile our tech lead keep asking me to port our game to unreal so we don't have to bother with programming too much (edited)

port... the game... to a completely different, even heavier engine monkaStop

being a publishing firm probably let them see too many unreal engine games that are highly optimized by a professional team.

06:55

they just think unreal is fast and easy

risu

port... the game... to a completely different, even heavier engine monkaStop

Sure, give me a year or two ._.

i mean our game is not that complicated

06:56

i could probably do that in a few month

06:56

but i doubt it will run properly

TsFreddie

i could probably do that in a few month

remember to triple that time estimate :)

risu

remember to triple that time estimate :)

btw our entire time budget is one year

06:57

lol

KEKWA

we released the game in 13 months i think

06:57

from scratch

06:57

i would not play that jank myself

06:57

i hate it

What was it?

just an among us clone with mobile monetization

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Or do you want me to not see your failures? :P

i mean i do want to make an among us clone

06:58

but i didn't say i want a full mobile monetization strategy tied to it

06:58

we ended up spend way too much time on backends

06:59

my original purposal is just to make a slightly better among us VR and put it on chinese headset

06:59

which is really not that high of a bar

06:59

but they keep adding shit to it

06:59

Wow, so there are actual people who make those clone games

pilonpl

Wow, so there are actual people who make those clone games

Yeah, we're lucky AI isn't quite that far

pilonpl

Wow, so there are actual people who make those clone games

it's not one to one

Yeah but it always feels like those games are made by an AI

07:01

An there is no one who made that game because who would want to admit being an author

the idea is to at least be slightly better than the base game so we can put it in chinese market before the original game got imported

And some of those games might be doing money laundering idk

and player wouldn't move to the original one after

07:02

but the game ended up being imported before we could release it

07:02

cuz we spend that much time on monetization backend and systems

07:02

I can't get over how SCAMMED I'm feeling over the upcoming Liyue girl...

i should go back and make my stupid motorcycle game

07:04

stop playing genshin

I tried making a flappy bird clone in love2D

07:05

But even something that simple isn't exactly easy

I've made a few things in LÖVE when I was in high school, it was fun

pilonpl

But even something that simple isn't exactly easy

sometime it do be like that

07:06

using a framework: why is everything so hard to implement. using an engine: why is there no freedom, i want to implement them myself

07:06

you should try PICO-8 and earn some street cred

The most fun thing I made with love2d I think was the little 2 player local pvp shooter thing

Street cred?

a fully fledged title in PICO-8 is always my favorite thing to witness

untextured and no menus or anything, just the gameplay :P

pilonpl

Street cred?

cool factor i guess

but the gameplay was great, we sunk a few hours into it

the only time i made a 2d shooter is in a C++ class lol

07:08

made a multiplayer top down shooter

07:08

and nobody cared that i made a game, they keep asking how i managed to build for macos.

each player had 6 buttons, 4 for movement, one for fire, one for the special laser thing super simplistic

weirdest feeling of my life

TsFreddie

made a multiplayer top down shooter

local or networked?

networked

ok now I'm very confused too

why

ok maybe my brain just defaults to thinking that game networking is hard

no compression and lag comp and snapshots. just shoving data down a pipe

even though you probably didn't do any elaborate lag compensation

07:10

but i do make multiplayer games professionally i guess, since every project i worked on in a company is multiplayer

TsFreddie

no compression and lag comp and snapshots. just shoving data down a pipe

omw to compile your game for a system with a different endianness :) :) :)

TsFreddie

why

I mean confused as to why nobody cared

risu

I mean confused as to why nobody cared

or everyone is too amazed to say anything

07:11

idk

07:12

but during the presentation i only got questions about the build process

07:12

maybe making a game wasn't that cool in college unless it is a fun course. (edited)

07:13

it was a C/C++ course afterall

annoying thing is that if you write complicated but boring software there's a good chance people won't even realize that it was difficult

07:14

true

so making games is like the default way to flex :P

everyone playing biggernouis probably have no idea that i made it in a day with built-in engine physics only

07:17

time to make a ball i guess

Btw it's almost the end of 2024 and we still don't have accounts

pilonpl

Btw it's almost the end of 2024 and we still don't have accounts

2024? Mate reread the email, accounts come 3024

08:26

My grandkid can finally enjoy ddnet with accounts dancepls

08:28

i can't have kids

Why would anyone want to have kids anyways

pilonpl

Why would anyone want to have kids anyways

to have a purpose besides their career

i would if i can tbh

adoption is an option

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Koll Potato

adoption is an option

true

Koll Potato

adoption is an option

How is the opposite called

персик

true

are u adopted

i thought about abortion but it's different

09:36

good question

Ryozuki

are u adopted

No

@TsFreddie will u learn rust in 2025

Like giving the orphanage children (edited)

Ryozuki

are u adopted

i wanted to ask him the same thing xd

Ryozuki

@TsFreddie will u learn rust in 2025

not until you gave me a private lesson for free

what do u think about this?

TsFreddie

not until you gave me a private lesson for free

@Ryozuki ddnet rust teaching session when ?

i think this skin is cool

персик

what do u think about this?

melon do u like this skin?

Teero

How is the opposite called

abandonment

персик

melon do u like this skin?

No.

meloƞ

@Ryozuki ddnet rust teaching session when ?

rust is ez unless you start dealing with multi threading shit

I only like mind and insanity skins, I'm purely subjective here.

or async rust

Async is easy with Tokyo

Koll Potato

adoption is an option

~~i want to be pregnant~~

1

meloƞ

Async is easy with Tokyo

TOKIOOOOO

Best crate made by humans

tokyo drifting these threads

Ever

meloƞ

I only like mind and insanity skins, I'm purely subjective here.

Can u like show me the "mind" and "insanity" skins

yea

becuase i dont understand how they look

burnttoast the best

09:40

change my mind

Koll Potato

burnttoast the best

i eat toast

epic

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Koll Potato

abandonment

Can I abandon other peoples children?

butnr toast is not yummy

Teero

Can I abandon other peoples children?

uhhh

Teero

Can I abandon other peoples children?

Ofcourse you can!

you can try xd

персик

becuase i dont understand how they look

09:42

For example

meloƞ

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thank you

meloƞ

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No alpha layer?

Koll Potato

change my mind

Burnt toast definitely has its fans, but here’s why some might disagree: 1. Texture: Burnt toast tends to be dry and hard, which makes it tough to bite into compared to perfectly golden toast. For many, a crispy, lightly browned toast is the ideal texture. 2. Taste: The bitterness of burnt toast can overpower the more subtle flavors of butter, jam, or whatever toppings you enjoy. For others, that bitterness just doesn’t do it. 3. Health Concerns: Overcooking bread can cause the formation of acrylamide, a compound that forms when starchy foods are cooked at high temperatures and could pose health risks when consumed in large amounts. 4. Aesthetic appeal: Let’s face it—perfectly golden toast just looks more appetizing, and some people enjoy that visual appeal as much as the taste. However, if you like burnt toast, you're not alone! There's a charm to it, and some people find comfort in that slightly charred crunch. It all comes down to personal preference!

Teero

No alpha layer?

I copy pasted on phone

meloƞ

I copy pasted on phone

I'm at work taking a dookie atm

meloƞ

I'm at work taking a dookie atm

how old are you

Laying an egg?

melon

Teero

Laying an egg?

Yurp

Do you plan to abandon the egg melon

персик

how old are you

Old.

Teero

Do you plan to abandon the egg melon

I might, not sure about flushing just yet

thank you

meloƞ

I might, not sure about flushing just yet

By the way if i would use cactus client will i get banned?

персик

By the way if i would use cactus client will i get banned?

No. Its an closed source client so it can contain viruses and etc. Use at your own risk or just use any other open source client

oxyzo

No. Its an closed source client so it can contain viruses and etc. Use at your own risk or just use any other open source client

open source != free of viruses

09:57

it's up to you to check over the code

open source=computer ded

just don't play ddnet

Guys what do u think about this skin

персик

Guys what do u think about this skin

It's cut and streched kinda

i was drawing this in paint 3d for 20 minutes

10:15

my first version of it was with different eyes but it was broken so i deleted them

Well its not really a full skin yet. It wont get accepted if it doesnt have dedicated eyes, feet, hands and the shadows

i love tabby cat

ScReeNy

Well its not really a full skin yet. It wont get accepted if it doesnt have dedicated eyes, feet, hands and the shadows

i cant make eyes, they are broken

10:19

i tried already

3

персик

i cant make eyes, they are broken

yea you are limited to them being mirrored

ScReeNy

yea you are limited to them being mirrored

If i will make shadows

10:19

will it

10:19

get accepted

thats not enough

Bro i see skins with just first part

10:20

and shadows

10:20

and it still gets accepted

for example?

@персик i recommend reading the Skin Rules here #📍info .

i dont break any of them

well fair, but a cat should definitly have eyes and body parts no? Also this skin was especially made for the Tee Invader map, so its more of a gimmick

10:32

i would argue that you have missing parts

Yes i have but that cat

10:32

is an a slime

10:32

it doesnt have a legs or arms

10:33

he is just a blob

bruh xD

i was making the eyes

10:33

but its broken

maybe its easier using a template like this?

10:35

Put it in another layer and u have clear dedicated areas for eyes

10:37

there are a few other skins that manage to make eyes with a mouth like you are trying, you could for example refer this:

персик

and it still gets accepted

У скина ухо и хвост обрезаны

https://x.com/skooookum/status/1860820489205141594

skooks (@skooookum) on X

find great new youtube history channel

it's all about ww2

American narrator

every german word pronounced perfectly

13:15

https://x.com/llenguacatEU/status/1860800256033619990

Plataforma per la Llengua - Europa (@llenguacatEU) on X

World map of geolocated elements on @Wikidata, the free database associated with @Viquipedia. ✅ It shows that the Catalan-language Wikipedia community is one of the most active in the world in the field of digital volunteering.

they made shadow hold a gun again?

15:08

2

Idk wtf is going on, but i go to sleep a bit earlier than previously but wake up way later

Overlord

Idk wtf is going on, but i go to sleep a bit earlier than previously but wake up way later

sleeping paradox

15:28

also you should feel dizzier after longer sleep

All i want is to sleep some more

But if i aleep more the swimming pool will close :(

TsFreddie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbNdx0yqbZE

now imaigine it all from the perspective of a neighbour xd

I found my old steam account when some dude tried to log into it

18:19

Learath2

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that one friend who hasnt logged in for 12 years, then goes online for 5 minutes and disappears again

18:26

Overlord

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I got my mic working but it sounds horrible pepeW

Learath2

I got my mic working but it sounds horrible pepeW

mic issue or linux issue?

my mic sounds good.. right??? @Teero RIIIGHT?

I'm unsure because I never had windows on this laptop

18:30

this laptop is very pure

18:30

it doesn't even have microsofts secure boot keys

18:31

only my very own secure boot signing key

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womp womp

19:08

link doesn't work

its actually nice and refreshing to see clan invitation

19:13

lets make clans great again

meloƞ

my mic sounds good.. right??? @Teero RIIIGHT?

It sounds so horrible that I get turned on from it

Bota

It sounds so horrible that I get turned on from it

wtf man :(

meloƞ

wtf man :(

❤️

meloƞ

wtf man :(

But ur a giga chad gigachad

for not using windown like me feelsbadman

19:17

Im still a Child in my Heart

Bota

Im still a Child in my Heart

Stay as a child as long as U need to, thats prolly one of the very few ways to enjoy life!

Overlord

Stay as a child as long as U need to, thats prolly one of the very few ways to enjoy life!

I can’t choose it cammo

Bota

I can’t choose it cammo

How come? I would understand going from being a grumpy person to happy being hard

19:34

But imo going from happy to sad is easy

Bota

Im still a Child in my Heart

sad choo choo noises in the corner

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The worst part of going to the gym is the time before getting there

19:58

Then anyminute after the first 20

wonderful, promotion like this makes me buy products instantly without even questioning if i have need for those

21:03

21:05

@Learath2 have You ever used "handheld kitchen burner" ( no idea if its proper name ) but it's the one you might use to melt / burn top of sugary things / cheese etc already on the plate, and if yes, do they use regular propane/butane gas?

Overlord

@Learath2 have You ever used "handheld kitchen burner" ( no idea if its proper name ) but it's the one you might use to melt / burn top of sugary things / cheese etc already on the plate, and if yes, do they use regular propane/butane gas?

It's just a small blowtorch

Overlord

@Learath2 have You ever used "handheld kitchen burner" ( no idea if its proper name ) but it's the one you might use to melt / burn top of sugary things / cheese etc already on the plate, and if yes, do they use regular propane/butane gas?

aye and aye

risu being learath confirmed, same timestamp, just wrong account at first

@Learath2 instead of pergamin paper can I use regular cooking paper but soak it in oil? or do something else? aside from getting it via internet it's impossible for me locally :( Please archivist You must surerly know a way!

Overlord

@Learath2 instead of pergamin paper can I use regular cooking paper but soak it in oil? or do something else? aside from getting it via internet it's impossible for me locally :( Please archivist You must surerly know a way!

What do you need it for? Just regular baking? every country has baking sheets (edited)

Learath2

What do you need it for? Just regular baking? every country has baking sheets (edited)

baozi

23:24

i also plan to steam them for longer than the recipes say, because I LIVE IN FEAR of undercooked meat

Overlord

baozi

How do you not have baking paper locally? What is "cooking paper"? (edited)

pretty sure your cooking paper is what you're looking at online

baking paper / (what i call cooking paper)

This is fine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greaseproof_paper

Greaseproof paper

Greaseproof paper is paper that is impermeable to oil or grease, and is normally used in cooking or food packaging. It is usually produced by refining the paper stock and thus creating a sheet with very low porosity. This is then passed between hard pressure rollers (supercalendered) to further increase the density, creating a paper called glas...

23:26

the paper in recipes

23:26

tf its called greaseproof in eng

Overlord

baking paper / (what i call cooking paper)

I would add a small bit of oil too. This is what I use for my steamed dumplings

i should have just switched to eng wikipedia

Learath2

I would add a small bit of oil too. This is what I use for my steamed dumplings

I plan to mix bacon ( not the american type) and chicken there I hope it turns out okayish

23:28

I never cooked anything involving yeast ( alone )

23:28

only ever helped either making the dough or finishing products

Overlord

only ever helped either making the dough or finishing products

your baozi recipe uses yeast alone?

alone meant, me cooking it alone, without help etc

23:31

no it also has flour and sugar

23:31

like pretty much any other dough i guess?

ah ok, that sort of "alone"

23:31

Yeah baozi dough is pretty regular

23:32

Pro-tip: You can add titanium dioxide if you want that white finish, it's carcinogenic if inhaled but makes the bao look pretty

Learath2

Pro-tip: You can add titanium dioxide if you want that white finish, it's carcinogenic if inhaled but makes the bao look pretty

I just hope the dough survives the steaming, and they dont "poop" all over each other and the pot

23:34

I dont care much how food looks, but if I ever cook for others sure, I will keep in mind this carcinogen and sprinkle it all over!

23:34

23:35

@Learath2 better dry yeast, or wet one? (wet = the ones they keep in refrigerators)?

Overlord

@Learath2 better dry yeast, or wet one? (wet = the ones they keep in refrigerators)?

I prefer dry yeast in like everything (non-instant kind)

23:38

I have a small jar of it that I keep in the fridge

Learath2

I prefer dry yeast in like everything (non-instant kind)

how does the instant one differ? from regular dry? it feeds faster?

23:38

also is the difference in structure or taste?

Overlord

how does the instant one differ? from regular dry? it feeds faster?

it's not important nowadays, that's just what I got this time around because I couldn't find my usual jar

23:40

(technically for longer proofing normal active dry yeast is better, but you won't proof baozi long anyway)

23:41

Check your recipe though, you use different amounts of each of the 3 types of yeast

Learath2

Check your recipe though, you use different amounts of each of the 3 types of yeast

I dont have recipe per say, i plan to mix. The recipes i found and randomly change proprotions to make lots of buns

23:46

So im kinda prepared to fail first try

baking is a precise endeavor unlike cooking, do not wing the dough

But thats how i cook most of my life

you can wing the rest

Wait really? Isnt it like

23:46

The worst that can happen it stays flat?

a flat bao or an over proofed blown bao are both sad

Im most worried about it breaking mid steaming

23:47

Like pierogi do mid boiling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGr3H7XVmng this is where I got the starting point for my recipe

Chinese Cooking Demystified

Bao Zi, Fluffy Steamed Pork Buns (发面包子)

I watched it already

23:48

I guess i will use the recipe that adds butter to the dough

23:48

Will link in few mins

Overlord

I guess i will use the recipe that adds butter to the dough

This doesn't sound like the greatest idea from what I know about doughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhMV1-ZON10

Souped Up Recipes

How to Make Perfect Steamed Bao Buns (Chicken Baozi Recipe)

23:51

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23:52

she makes more pieces, so I wont have to "wing it" i guess

She looks sufficiently chinese to know better than me, feel free to disregard

Learath2

She looks sufficiently chinese to know better than me, feel free to disregard

but her english is too good, which makes it dubious

oils usually break up gluten chains, leading to more cake-like textures, like in brioche dough e.g.

23:54

for a baozi you usually want fluffy but still a strong dough

i will add less butter then

aaaanyway, not important, if you are willing to experiment, just try a couple things until you find what you like

23:55

I wouldn't suggest messing around with dough ratios, just pick one and use it as given

tbh baozi seem like more annoying version of periogi (im talking about finishing the dough with the filling aka "art")

I don't really make baozi anymore since there are 2 new bao places that have amazing ones

23:56

So I just go buy them

i also have 2 bao places (both belonging to same owner) and I havent even tried

23:57

the price is INSANE

Yeah the price is not great here either

1 portion literally costs more than 1KG of raw bacon or raw chicken breasts

23:59

which prolly can be used to make a lot of them