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@risu how do You feel about microwaves?
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Overlord
hey fellas I've got a question UwU
no
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Overlord
@risu how do You feel about microwaves?
quite practical but... our apartment has one but I never use it lol
02:24
I got so used to cooking normally before we got it that I never even remember that it's an option
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now I announce, that both of You should go to sleep
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norming
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Learath2
Todays food. Was supposed to go into some tortilla but my tortillas were moldy pepeW
doesn't seem enough for a grown adult
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chilling
06:50
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where gay fat furry bf near you
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TsFreddie
doesn't seem enough for a grown adult
It’s not meant to be. It’s supposed to be just enough to satiate me until I fall asleep
08:46
And yet poles hate germans lol
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pilonpl
And yet poles hate germans lol
they literally don't it's mostly old people yapping about the past
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Yeah i guess
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Learath2
It’s not meant to be. It’s supposed to be just enough to satiate me until I fall asleep
good morning then
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To everyone avoiding the implementation of __repr__ in their OOP Python projects or refusing to use dataclasses: you're as useless as ueue in the word queue
10:01
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justatest r
10:11
#developer
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murpi
To everyone avoiding the implementation of __repr__ in their OOP Python projects or refusing to use dataclasses: you're as useless as ueue in the word queue
cyberfighter 2 2024-11-21 10:12
who did you get mad at
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ticketmaster is the worst shit I have ever seen
10:12
first time trying to buy a ticket and banned for "suspicious web activity" as a bot
10:13
be glad, that their HQ is in Berlin so it's hard for me to punch anybody
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Assa
first time trying to buy a ticket and banned for "suspicious web activity" as a bot
ME TOO OMG
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Linkin Park?
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Nope, tickets for Heilung and Percival
10:14
They didn't straight up ban me though, worse, they held my payment hostage until I verified myself
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also there are 6 fucking presales depending if you are member of their fucking VIP club, telecom customer or other customsers, what is this shit
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cyberfighter 2 2024-11-21 10:15
paypal is holding my 40 euros hostage
10:15
at this point i feel like donating it all to ddnet
10:15
cause i cant be assed
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they didn't ban me, they said I should use another network and device
10:16
then I tried on the phone and then tickets were sold out
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Who hurt you murp
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Assa
ticketmaster is the worst shit I have ever seen
+5. I hate Ticketmaster, disgusting monopoly
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MilkeeyCat 2024-11-21 11:31
I literally wrote it to check if my internet connection works xddddd
11:37
i put some burnt rice in oven
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My landlord put the heaters up to max a month or so back when the weather was relatively mild. Now as it gets colder and colder, he is decreasing the heat... what gives?
11:51
Man boiled me alive for a month, but now when I need the heat it's cold
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Koll Potato 2024-11-21 11:52
dexter morgan him
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Koll Potato
dexter morgan him
He doesn't fit the code
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Koll Potato 2024-11-21 11:56
oh right
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment 🖼️
Java and JavaScript are the same
11:58
cammostripes
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment 🖼️
since I am german, I can also do .de monkalaugh
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i can do .cat and .es and .eu too
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i will do .cn i guess
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Laughs in .tw
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meloƞ
Laughs in .tw
i've blocked so many people flaming us for supporting taiwanese games
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Sen. Mark Warner says lax enforcement of rules by social media platforms ‘leads to toxic social environments that elevate harassment and abuse.’
12:19
steam is bad now?
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Pure bs
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why tho? its a pretty unmoderated area and full of shit
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TsFreddie
i've blocked so many people flaming us for supporting taiwanese games
lmfaooo
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ScReeNy
why tho? its a pretty unmoderated area and full of shit
Looks like a bad joke to me
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TsFreddie
steam is bad now?
this is a campaign against steam by corporate
12:37
where is the news for X?
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Devinci
Looks like a bad joke to me
well i can agree with pepe but the problem is real. The article also talks about ISIS symbols or people using pics of mass murderers, thats definitly worrysome imo
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i mean... 18million pieces and 54% are pepe
12:41
9 million piece of content is not really that many in the grand total of things
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I'm usually against regulations. If people want to have whatever profile picture and make a fool of themselves then why not? I pretty much doubt steam is used to organize terrorists attacks, as there are wayy better alternatives. So I just see it as a way to censor whatever thing they dislike or some other excuse to attack steam for whatever reason
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greenthing plus the forums are supposed to be moderated by the developers
12:48
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i cant agree, people using hatefull messaging is not about themselves but about attacking others. Having such groups/community on a widley accessible Network just functions as a brewing ground for political radicalization. Such a big platform like steam should be accountable for moderating content, just like other social media platforms are.
12:52
i think its less about the game forums either, as far as i know its public/private groups that are the biggest issue
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i don't mind nuking groups
12:53
i just don't think piece by piece moderation is possible
12:53
but if it is just groups
12:54
that should be doable at a glance
12:54
but obviously the ADL report is scraping the entire site for posts reviews and workshop items
12:56
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yea well its probably impossible to put this into good numbers
12:57
does steam have no auto moderation what so ever?
12:57
thats actually crazy, when they could have so much power to the user who spend tons of money there
12:58
but i guess they dont wanna lose their users
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i doubt they have 0 moderation
12:58
it wouldnt function at this scale
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i mean at least by eu law it needs some report features
12:59
but cant tell if it automatically monitors some stuff
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steam has report
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i can report teeworldscn
13:03
"Valve only implemented moderation of its video game discussion boards in 2018 after previously leaving the responsibility to the developers themselves."
13:03
so this is no more at least
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i mean developer should moderate their forums for sure
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in the end you have to question if they shoudl change their own policies if they dont enforce them
13:04
and asking how well they do is all that that "letter" is about i think
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good vibe police is here
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Steam has 150m~ active accounts, just considering the active accounts it's actually not that absurd that there is some speech that is considered offensive
13:06
After removing pepe the frog from the hate speech list it's even less
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i think it is pretty good it is only this many
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I agree. I think bigots are far more common in just a random sample of society
13:09
Also a lot of these are probably just edgy teens. So it's more just normalizing hate than radicalizing people. (Which is still bad but not as bad)
13:09
fish
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A bigger problem with Steam is the games themselves actually. There is literally a game called Hitler Waifu
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I just think that at a certain size platforms have to make an effort. Like in the eu digital service act which technically forces very large online platforms(45million+ active users) to play after some rules regarding effort and transparency. And the current debate is sparked in the us where the law is technically more lose regarding this
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TsFreddie
steam is bad now?
Steam's comment section is awful, but any other thing is fine
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again, i think valve does make effort. you can say it is NOT enough but i don't think it doesn't exists (edited)
13:13
otherwise there'd be way more
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yep, it's just that the solution they could implement is being limited by, again, government issue
13:14
also, the moderation team on uploading games should be taken a lot more seriously
13:14
as you guys mentioned
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ScReeNy
I just think that at a certain size platforms have to make an effort. Like in the eu digital service act which technically forces very large online platforms(45million+ active users) to play after some rules regarding effort and transparency. And the current debate is sparked in the us where the law is technically more lose regarding this
Actually I did research this a bit once to check if we had any legal liability hosting ddnet. Turns out the EU doesn't really force any hatespeech regulations onto you. After a certain size there is German law that forces you to enable reporting of it and there is a voluntary EU program you can join. But that's about it
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i wish we have a fully unmoderated and popular platform as an example
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itch.io is moderated no?
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an example of how bad it can get
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TsFreddie
an example of how bad it can get
4chan? 8chan?
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not sure about itch. but i also don't just browse itch regularly
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Twitter doesn't have much in the way of moderation now. If you want more popular (edited)
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cuz the CEO fired them all
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There is also Rumble
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my twitter is just gay porns so i can't really tell
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Learath2
Actually I did research this a bit once to check if we had any legal liability hosting ddnet. Turns out the EU doesn't really force any hatespeech regulations onto you. After a certain size there is German law that forces you to enable reporting of it and there is a voluntary EU program you can join. But that's about it
im not sure how it is for small communities, but i was refering to this https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/dsa-vlops, which does come with a few more obligations i think
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idk much about GOG but I only heard good things from it
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i mean if you REALLY want moderation you can go the chinese route
13:17
you can ban the site for a month for one single offense of inappropriate content
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TsFreddie
i mean if you REALLY want moderation you can go the chinese route
ah yes, break our ToS which states: "you are not allowed this and that" and we get you to jail
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that's why chinese sites uses mass human resources just to have human look over every piece of content
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wait, so that's why the chinese government want clones of popular media programs?
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it's almost 100 to 1 user moderator ratio on some sites (edited)
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so they can moderate it with radically insane control?
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jeez
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Cellegen
wait, so that's why the chinese government want clones of popular media programs?
no. china doesn't want anything
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I bet
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TsFreddie
you can ban the site for a month for one single offense of inappropriate content
This is how it used to be everywhere. Then we got special rules for platforms
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its the business taking advantage of a fresh playground
13:21
no twitter? well if we make a twitter we could make twitter money in china
13:21
more like that
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and with Steam?
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Cellegen
and with Steam?
UN trade law made it not legal for china to ban steam (edited)
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But Steam has to follow requests from China
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TsFreddie
UN trade law made it not legal for china to ban steam (edited)
WTO sounds more appropriate than the UN there
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no
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huh
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Learath2
WTO sounds more appropriate than the UN there
maybe i forgot the detail
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Cellegen
But Steam has to follow requests from China
there is a Steam China run by perfect world which is under china's regulation
13:23
Steam itself isn't
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apparently tencent is making a FFXIV mobile game
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and china can't ban Steam
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first releasing in china
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then world
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we still have Amazon and ebay if you are wondering
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I should start playing ffxiv
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china as beta testing
13:24
good, cuz americans are shit at testing
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Cellegen
china as beta testing
they release first in china cuz chinese game studio
13:24
its not square enix doing it
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Ryozuki
first releasing in china
this is a new regulation actually
13:24
chinese made games are not allowed to be published in china if they run it globally first
wtf 1
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whats the benefit? xd
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it usually would go the other way around
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how shit this sounds
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Ryozuki
whats the benefit? xd
none. it's banning the release first, license second scheme
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im glad china is just a powerhouse on mobile and gacha, i love my AAA and factorio eu based
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Ryozuki
im glad china is just a powerhouse on mobile and gacha, i love my AAA and factorio eu based
They are catching up real quick. Black Myth Wukong was great (edited)
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back then companies can make game, run it globally, then apply for domestic publishing, then migrate back
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its a loophole
13:26
they patched that
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such bullshit
13:26
if you wanna share your game to the world, including your home region, then let them do it!
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i want to see the blood, gore and bones
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We have age limits for a reason
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we don't
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?????????
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it is allowed for one year old to register any service
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.-. wtf
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Ryozuki
i want to see the blood, gore and bones
I thiink they are allowed to have those, just not within China. Wukong had blood
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thats why nothing is allowed on chinese platforms
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Learath2
I thiink they are allowed to have those, just not within China. Wukong had blood
not really
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cant they just... change it?
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change the law?
13:28
they can
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it is being discussed
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slowly
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TsFreddie
not really
They had the blood mist instead of milk mist
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Learath2
They had the blood mist instead of milk mist
they do. but wukong gets a pass because it makes money
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yep cum mist
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china publishing is kinda running on the if it shows how great china is, we can waive regulations
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TsFreddie
they do. but wukong gets a pass because it makes money
But does the version they released in china have milk instead?
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Learath2
But does the version they released in china have milk instead?
we have blood
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on wukong
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only
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I love China. Maybe I should look for a job there
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this don't make any sense, in LoL, graves cannot have a cigar, but wukong can bleed
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so basically if you shoot for global fame, and make sure the gov knows about it. you can get greenlit
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not garranteed but hoyoverse and wukong got it
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not that hoyo games are violent but their game get to have english text in the chinese version. which is usually not allowed.
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Is the ddnet pistol allowed there? Or is it replaced by some toy greenthing
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Cellegen
this don't make any sense, in LoL, graves cannot have a cigar, but wukong can bleed
self censoring is also a thing. you wont know what they have issue with until you got the review
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ScReeNy
im not sure how it is for small communities, but i was refering to this https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/dsa-vlops, which does come with a few more obligations i think
I actually didn't know this one, I wasn't researching about very large platforms
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which can delay your business for 3 month at a time
13:33
so we usually just make sure we don't touch anything
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TsFreddie
self censoring is also a thing. you wont know what they have issue with until you got the review
so you think they did it out of precaution?
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Cellegen
so you think they did it out of precaution?
most likely
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and they usually find lots of tiny things
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TsFreddie
not garranteed but hoyoverse and wukong got it
They did make some character models less lewd in genshin. Idk if that was a govt thing or self censorship tho
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Learath2
They did make some character models less lewd in genshin. Idk if that was a govt thing or self censorship tho
the self censoring probably cuz they got the publishing license FAST
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you rarely get it in less than 6 months
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usually it takes 6 month to get a review then 3 month per resubmit
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you can lose two years just trying to publishing a game
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Learath2
I actually didn't know this one, I wasn't researching about very large platforms
To be fair steam doesnt currently fall under this as its 45m EU users only.
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justatest also why i have no plan on releasing games in china anytime soon
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i just want to put it on steam
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catbite is AI for moderation a thing now btw
13:39
is it good at it
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Producer Naoki Yoshida revealed Final Fantasy XIV mobile won't have any kind of gacha mechanics, but monetization will appear in other ways.
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would it be as gay as the PC one
13:56
i honestly think the closer to beijing the less effective a proxy would be
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my proxy is not working as well as when i'm in guangzhou
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i don't like it
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@Brokecdx-
17:11
stop trying
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why cant i type
17:11
??
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cuz 10min cooldown in showroo
17:12
kinda cringe
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Become a mod, then you can spam the channel all you want troll
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Oyakodon, I wish I had some scallions but Italy didn't invent them yet
KEKW 1
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Skeith
Become a mod, then you can spam the channel all you want troll
the text in german is even funnier slow mode is activated, but you are immune, that is true power
greenthing 1
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решай сам
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is my mouse still saveable ? lmb registers 2x the inputs rmb registers 0.5x the inputs the side button frame has collapsed
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Learath2
Oyakodon, I wish I had some scallions but Italy didn't invent them yet
Isnt this just chicken and sezame seeds?
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Overlord
Isnt this just chicken and sezame seeds?
There is also egg and onion and rice below
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nevermind it works
19:50
its just the specific example that didnt work lol
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montikboom 2024-11-21 19:51
No oftop
19:51
19:55
switch to yt lol
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MilkeeyCat 2024-11-21 20:26
@Learath2 after a month of being stuck on how to implement ir, I finally had a Eurika moment, more stoopid compiler related questions coming soon santatrollet
22:45
react if claimed
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Bota
react if claimed
Ah man I'm in bed
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to bad
22:49
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It would be wasted on me anyways
22:58
I would take a factorio key tho
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im so tired :()
23:19
imagine doing physical excercise everyday
23:19
that would be nuts
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