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How to check

Smetanolub

How to check

look at process count

01:10

look at gpu process count

01:11

increase gfx_render_thread_count

01:11

look at process count look at gpu process count

01:11

and filter for ddnet

ChillerDragon

03:49

I noticed that on the "медленный горес" after respawning / logging in to the server, you are in the solopart for a couple of seconds and a thing flies behind you that resets all items to the standard

03:49

What does it give?

<ChillerDragon> what do you mean by "What does it give?"

04:47

<ChillerDragon> you can ask the 0XF developers if you have a question about their mod

04:48

<ChillerDragon> if you mean by "What does it give?" something like "What is its purpose?" then i would assume its some kind of spawn protection to avoid blocking each other

Morning concurrent map writers and others

Gm

06:24

That shit rocks

06:25

Erroring is hard though

@MilkeeyCat: Java’s concurrent map?

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chillerdragon: golang's map

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ws-client

<ChillerDragon> if you mean by "What does it give?" something like "What is its purpose?" then i would assume its some kind of spawn protection to avoid blocking each other

Thx

Evelyn

What does it give?

Give a bit time to leave spawn and not collide to others, bcs too many players on spawn usually

<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat did you publish a private repo or did I not see this in my github feed for 2 weeks? https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/nodummies/

GitHub - MilkeeyCat/nodummies

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09:06

<ChillerDragon> Looks promising, I have to admit as a dummy enjoyer. I like that you have some teeish branding.

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @MilkeeyCat did you publish a private repo or did I not see this in my github feed for 2 weeks? https://github.com/MilkeeyCat/nodummies/

looks like it does nothing but logs every udp packet justatest

justatest

<ChillerDragon> yes for now

09:09

<ChillerDragon> let me re plug https://twnet.zillyhuhn.com/ again pasting hexdumps in here is quite convienient during development of such tools

chillerdragon it was public from start

<ChillerDragon> hm weird

09:10

<ChillerDragon> looks like i missed it or the gh algorithm punished you

I can ping you personally for every new tw related project lol

lol

<ChillerDragon> that would be nice actually

ChillerDragon

13:25

Which command can forbid changing the deceleration for a short time

13:26

As in KoG do not change map

13:26

Only in my case, the speed change

13:29

And also how to make sure that in the voting, like, really 65% of the players have to press f3 so that the speed changes

13:30

Otherwise, the green stripe does not even reach the black stick, and the voting is still going on smoothly

MilkeeyCat

I can ping you personally for every new tw related project lol

lol

Can you send master server rules please?

Необработанное исключение по адресу 0x00007FF7792D7D17 в DDNet.exe: 0xC00000FD: Stack overflow (параметры: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000C6D603000). this is what the debugger gives me

https://github.com/doxx/darkflare

GitHub - doxx/darkflare: DarkFlare TCPoCDN (TCP over CDN)

DarkFlare TCPoCDN (TCP over CDN). Contribute to doxx/darkflare development by creating an account on GitHub.

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montikboom

Can you send master server rules please?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1308134217095581727

MilkeeyCat

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1308134217095581727

I have a question, if I use fng to get server type color, if this against the rules? Because I don't see any rule that disallow this

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9272 Use separate packer with larger buffer only for Teehistorian

Revert buffer size for regular CPacker to 2 KiB to avoid stack overflows on systems with only 1 MiB of stack memory (e.g. Windows with MSVC and Android). Add separate CTeehistorianPacker with a larger buffer to be used only for Teehistorian chunks. To avoid duplicate code the existing CPacker is renamed to CAbstractPacker and the buffer and its size are supplied by the concrete subclasses CPacker and CTeehistorianPacker.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

826eb2e Add 156 € funding for Chile server by Konsti - def-

poggers2

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small utility for parsing your logs for spambots: https://github.com/jxsl13/twlog-who-said

GitHub - jxsl13/twlog-who-said

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20:57

have fun

20:58

currently synchronized, if anyone has that many logs that async processing is required, ping me

jxsl13

small utility for parsing your logs for spambots: https://github.com/jxsl13/twlog-who-said

do you have go code where <- ctx.Done() is used? :DD

github.com/jxsl13/amqpx

20:59

extensively

21:00

I mainly use context.Context for graceful shutdown handling.

ill check it, thanks

jxsl13

currently synchronized, if anyone has that many logs that async processing is required, ping me

async -> parallel/concurrent

Solly

and filter for ddnet

uh, expand your explanation plz, i didnt get it

Smetanolub

uh, expand your explanation plz, i didnt get it

ill just check gimme a moment

it’s cpu thread count

22:31

gpu core concept is completely abstracted

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i think its a maxmimum increasing it doesnt do anything

22:32

or i mite have to restart

22:32

yeah no change

Ewan

gpu core concept is completely abstracted

yeah but you could theoretically for whatever reason make multiple gpu processes

thank you

22:34

Is there a list for maximum performance for every command?

22:35

In ddnet 15 i had 10k fps, but on 16.7 i have only 5k,somwtimes 7 but for short moment

22:36

I didnt change my settings, and also upgraded my pc, so it must be something with settings wrong

screen resolution -> 480x320 jaouis

jaouis

I did switch my i7700k for 7950x3d, may be i need to set up some settings for cpu in a different program?

Image attachment

22:41

justatest

yeah?

is rust the culprit? justatest

justatest

of what

Smetanolub

In ddnet 15 i had 10k fps, but on 16.7 i have only 5k,somwtimes 7 but for short moment

did you try 16.5?

oh i see

22:44

i don’t think it’s actually doing anything in that release, but idk

22:44

ffi has just been implemented

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9273 new cmds /practicespikeaction /practicefreezeaction

This request was created before looking at anything:

/practice is normally used for practising sections, normally when you fail you want to be rescued. This is especially true when with spikes, where instead of being rescued you die, which is annoying I propose 2 commands to change the result of falling in spikes / freeze

/practicespikeaction [none|rescue|die] default:rescue
/practicefreezeaction [none|rescue|die] default:none

After looking at anything:

There is /i...

Smetanolub

In ddnet 15 i had 10k fps, but on 16.7 i have only 5k,somwtimes 7 but for short moment

ohhh no!!!

23:09

profile it :)

23:10

also at 10k you only get 100 micro seconds per frame x-x

GitHub

Click to see attachment 🖼️

check #2232

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/2232

Team practice vs kill tile · Issue #2232 · ddnet/ddnet

I suppose we should trigger /rescue on kill tile collision if team is in practice mode. Edit: Or any other solution. Because for now you getting kicked out of team once you killed

Smetanolub

In ddnet 15 i had 10k fps, but on 16.7 i have only 5k,somwtimes 7 but for short moment

try 16.5

justatest

zhn

check #2232

didnt see that oops

23:24

but this closes it (edited)

23:25

i think its a good solution

23:25

which covers everything

Solly

didnt see that oops

check out all discussions :D

oh dear

23:27

i guess ill list all the issues and prs

23:28

can we get a bot cmds channel (edited)

wdym

i want to spam bot commands

#bot-cmds

it deletes ur msg

23:29

that should really be in information

where is the place where I can submit an idea for a new version??

use #off-topic then :p

okie thanks

zhn

use #off-topic then :p

you allowed to spam?

rolika

where is the place where I can submit an idea for a new version??

#town-hall

or create an issue

okie agn

Solly

you allowed to spam?

its not a link spam or something, ig you can

23:30

use it too*

i want to do it for quick issue listing

23:30

cuz i can just paste it in it gives me link

23:30

ig its me being lazy

just paste a list here

eh ill just not be lazy (edited)

anyway all related issues are linked to that one

23:31

even prs

23:33

#2221 and #7691 - old prs

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2221 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/7691

Death tiles automatically /rescue when rescue is enabled or in prac...

Note I've already incorporated the conflicts from #2218, but that's not to say I incorporated #2218 in it's entirety.

add rescue on kill tile by ewancg · Pull Request #7691 · ddnet/ddnet

Some people were tired of having to re-enter practice mode, teleport back to where they were, and situate their weapons/solo status when hitting a kill tile in practice mode. The game will now resc...

@Ewan your masterpiece still pops up xd

pepeRage

23:36

just a waste of time

Team practice vs kill tile #2232: Closes, Heinrich wants spectate to be default action Death tiles automatically /rescue when rescue is enabled or in practice mode #2221: Closed, Def wants a 500ms rate limit (for rescue), this perhaps can put into spectate for those 500ms kill protection for team, could we keep died players in spectactor mode till team decides/timer ends? #2206: Closes, I don't want to have a team desicion behaviour. I think if any person has death as an on action the entire team dies Remove kill immunity and replace it with something cheatsafe #898: Closes Add /rescuemode support #7820: Merged, /rescuemode should work with this

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/2232 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2221 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/2206 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/898 https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/7820

could the bot not embed them please

23:37

the links and even maybe the title is fine

too much brain space allocated to such a simple pr (edited)

23:37

i think the embed is intended to make it easier than just pr title/description

i dont know why my solution wasnt thought of instantly

23:39

x-x

23:39

(it was my first idea)

23:40

i cant train until this is a feature

23:40

i keep dying on spikes

because before you implement any, you should know how to implement at least one

23:46

all of this was discussed well but still no ideal implementation of spec/freeze/rescue on kill

@Solly use /lasttp

pretty funny experience today with programming that log parser. the spambot rejoined like multiple times per minute, sent a message, left, regenerated its nickname, joined again, message, and so in and so forth. When I was done with my tool and let it parse my logs, the final result was a single ip address.

gigachad

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zhn

all of this was discussed well but still no ideal implementation of spec/freeze/rescue on kill

no it’s just heinrich being opposed to the idea and not offering an alternative

23:48

well i guess he did

I think /lasttp is a very good alternative

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23:49

I used to think practice on kill behavior was frustrating until i used lasttp binds

tbh most people dont spend much time in practice, and those who do should then take the 10 min to create a proper set of binds for doing so efficiently

think about what this choice actually is for a second. this should be core functionality of practice mode, not an afterthought like a recovery command

23:50

because why would you actually want it to work that way, and not just restart the same way you do manually by pressing kill

we can have a mode for auto-calling /lasttp after dying in practice mode?

if there is to be any intervention it should just be that

louis

we can have a mode for auto-calling /lasttp after dying in practice mode?

and how do you turn that on in a non painful way

23:50

every user has to bind it for on join or the server keeps track

23:50

both of those suck

what else would you suggest

my pr

23:51

just tp them back

23:51

and if they want to restart the level

that shouldn't be on by default

consistent autorecover would be cool, still u use practice mostlyto learn how to do a prt consistently. So what is more consistent than starting at the exact same position u defined with ur /lasttp

their muscle memory will just press the button before they can consciously think about it

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23:52

or type /kill

23:52

this is something players are acclimated to doing

kill tiles should by default kill you, i think auto-rescuing is unintuitive behavior if you didn't already set it somehow

i disagree, it’s practice mode

23:52

i’ve never known a game where you can die in practice mode

every other practice feature requires a command (edited)

23:52

it'd be odd to have some that aren't documented or used thru commands

Ewan

i’ve never known a game where you can die in practice mode

that's different from what you suggested though

23:53

that would mean enabling invincible by defualt, not rescuing by default

Ewan

no it’s just heinrich being opposed to the idea and not offering an alternative

nah he did, but still no obe implemented it

23:53

one*

i forgot his idea until i said that

going to a spectator mode after death sounds annoying too

it is better than nothing but i think it’s just insanely unnecessary

23:54

then you have to opt into practicing every time you hit the kill tile

23:54

it’s not good

id rather convert kill tiles into freeze tiles with bolder bounds to imitate hitbox

23:54

so player can actually use rescue lol

that's jank af

sounds sane tho

then u have to modify collision logic for what should be in team/practice code only

louis

then u have to modify collision logic for what should be in team/practice code only

bruh bro we have 0.7 code in both client and server

i don't agree with that either

its like 7 loc change

the way i see it kill tiles in practice mode should effectively be treated as tp & have the same general thing happen when you die, take you back to safety so you can try again. i dont think this is any more expensive than say running really fast into a blue TP with its checkpoint right next to it (very common in older maps)

23:57

his points against it seemed weak and nit picky, his alternative seems half assed, and if he isn’t going to engage in the discussion then he shouldn’t be entrusted with the decision

i just dont think anything in practice should be changed by default without additional text commands

we are all for adding new server commands but not client settings

23:58

one of those can be trivially set and remembered, the other sorta can’t

23:58

more commands = more work

louis

then u have to modify collision logic for what should be in team/practice code only

wait but then all suggested changes (unless spec) are bad from your perspective

just another thing to bind and remember and press in this edge case where i’m practicing a part with kill tiles

23:59

unrealistic, and annoying, and makes sense from a dev perspective

23:59

but NO

zhn

wait but then all suggested changes (unless spec) are bad from your perspective

hm i dont think so

23:59

i think its better to modify for example a Die() function with if (practice) rather than modify kill collision logic with if(practice)

louis

hm i dont think so

ewans idea depends on kill tile behaving like tp, mine idea - on behaving like a freeze

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