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Between 2024-11-19 00:00 and 2024-11-20 00:00

Mozilla killed Firefox by being poor, all the original developers are gone.

00:07

Idk how much longer I'll be able to keep using it

ungoogled chromium!

00:07

because chromium is kinda just the better browser (having used both)

Tater

Mozilla killed Firefox by being poor, all the original developers are gone.

what does this mean for the browser?

but id prefer is firefox doesnt die...

00:07

more than it is already dead

I want a normal browser not something I have to fix every 6 months

theres full 0.7 skin support

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00:08

why is this tucked away to only when you are playing 0.7

It's for 0.7 players I guess

yeah but i didnt know there was 0.7 support until i saw the config vars

00:09

i had never looked

00:09

i think it should be a tab

it's recent

thanks chiller

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00:09

like this

Tater

it's recent

i love 0.7 skins :)

Solly

like this

like this

are ddnet servers ever going to support 0.7 skins?

If 0.7 gets more popular it will probably get a bigger part of the client

haha no :)

00:10

but i like the skins

I don't expect that 0.7 skins are planned or plan to be planned

aw

00:11

also theres weird padding in ur settings page

where

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That is weird

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00:12

@Tater can i make a pr ><

Yes I'm not stopping you

yipee

Just make sure it works with all the settings

ill try not to break it

00:14

would a pr to add 0.7 skin support be added

00:14

just be a sv config to turn it off a cl config to send 0.7 skin instead (if supported) and server support to relay skins the same way it does for 0.6 (edited)

how do i use hotreloading?

Solly

would a pr to add 0.7 skin support be added

0.6 skins better

Solly

how do i use hotreloading?

login to rcon on local server

kebs

login to rcon on local server

then what?

change the map to the same as in editor

01:14

and itll hot reload on save in editor

kebs

0.6 skins better

yeah but i like 0.7 skins, they are already in ur client, but server just doesnt send em

kebs

and itll hot reload on save in editor

i meant hot reloading code

idk

01:15

never used hot reloading in vs

01:15

it compiles fast enough for me

yeah but im doing incremental changes

01:15

so bit annoying

01:15

to compile (takes 5s or so), open, wait, navigate to where im looking (takes another 5s)

01:16

well its more that im converting alot of code

for values i was adding a test config value

and im doing it in small chunks to make sure i dont mess up

<ChillerDragon> @fokkonaut i dont think he rq. why?

<ChillerDragon> @Solly ddnet servers support 0.7 skins if you connect from 0.7

who do i ping to ping you? do i just type @ChillerDragon

01:49

oh it... pinged the discord one

01:50

i didnt do that on purpose

01:50

but ive never seen a 0.7 skin?

Just type his name

01:50

He is like voldemort

i already used voldermort

01:50

for the client that shant be named

01:51

the devil is the only other thing which seems to appear when you talk about them (speak of the devil)

01:52

and the devil, despite never being caught doing bad things, feels more evil than voldermort who has on multiple occasions murdered people and also wants to kill a child for 7 books (edited)

01:53

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01:53

i wouldnt call that support

01:54

can other 0.7 clients see 0.7 skins

01:54

im pullling out the 5th desktop for this one jeez

01:54

yes

01:54

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<ChillerDragon> @Solly you can ping me by writing my name with @ or without https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1731985143.png

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02:59

<ChillerDragon> @Solly you probably never saw a 0.7 skin because you always play 0.6

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @Solly you probably never saw a 0.7 skin because you always play 0.6

the 0.7 skins dont show properly on ddnet

03:16

and i dont think it would be that hard to change

03:17

@ChillerDragon if youre still awake... how do you do scrolling

03:18

static CScrollRegion s_ScrollRegion;
        vec2 ScrollOffset(0.0f, 0.0f);
        CScrollRegionParams ScrollParams;
        ScrollParams.m_ScrollUnit = 120.0f;
        ScrollParams.m_SliderMinHeight = 500.0f;
        s_ScrollRegion.Begin(&MainView, &ScrollOffset, &ScrollParams);
        MainView.y += ScrollOffset.y;

then scrollregion.addrect(??)

ws-client

<ChillerDragon> @Solly you can ping me by writing my name with @ or without https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1731985143.png

This is the first time I've seen what a discord looks like from the ChillerDragon side

lmao

i forgo to do .end

TEXTALIGN_ML or TEXTALIGN_LEFT

    // this is kinda slow, but whatever
    for(auto &Key : gs_aKeys)
        Key.m_KeyId = Key.m_ModifierCombination = 0;

    for(int Mod = 0; Mod < CBinds::MODIFIER_COMBINATION_COUNT; Mod++)
    {
        for(int KeyId = 0; KeyId < KEY_LAST; KeyId++)
        {
            const char *pBind = m_pClient->m_Binds.Get(KeyId, Mod);
            if(!pBind[0])
                continue;

            for(auto &Key : gs_aKeys)
                if(str_comp(pBind, Key.m_pCommand) == 0)
                {
                    Key.m_KeyId = KeyId;
                    Key.m_ModifierCombination = Mod;
                    break;
                }
        }
    }

04:35

oh dear

TEXTALIGN_MIDDLE doesnt work

tell me why is my custom client after compiling is crashing when i want to connect any server

u broke something

Koll Potato

u broke something

moreover, I just installed the ddnet master and threw in the library

06:54

After that, he complimented

06:54

I didn't even touch anything.

i cant help you without any information about crashes

✞Xikari✞

tell me why is my custom client after compiling is crashing when i want to connect any server

when people say crashing its normally assert failure or seg fault. as you havent provided a dbg msg its probably a segfault you can catch all segfaults by using asan the readme in https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet tells u how to enable it (edited)

07:17

font size in ddnet is varying between 12, 13 and 14, and its not noticeable at all

07:17

but really annoying

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9265 crashes

crashes when I try to start the server, although everything is fine in the main menu, I did not touch the game files, I just installed and uploaded the library and compiled the files

Solly

TEXTALIGN_ML or TEXTALIGN_LEFT

Always use the constants that specify both vertical and horizontal like TEXTALIGN_MC, never use the constants that only specify one (except with good reason)

Robyt3

Always use the constants that specify both vertical and horizontal like TEXTALIGN_MC, never use the constants that only specify one (except with good reason)

mmk its just tater had lots of _left

10:09

and i got confused

just fixed a compiler issue by updating cmake, i can't believe it

@Jupstar ✪ https://jvernay.fr/en/blog/skyline-2d-packer/implementation/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitening_transformation

Whitening transformation

A whitening transformation or sphering transformation is a linear transformation that transforms a vector of random variables with a known covariance matrix into a set of new variables whose covariance is the identity matrix, meaning that they are uncorrelated and each have variance 1. The transformation is called "whitening" because it changes ...

Has linear algebra gone too far?

xd

risu

Has linear algebra gone too far?

Oh yeah I remember hearing about something like this, where through some fancy trick + some randomness you can do matrix multiplication faster

risu

Oh yeah I remember hearing about something like this, where through some fancy trick + some randomness you can do matrix multiplication faster

I think it was solving inverses through iterative method were randomness would either speed up convergence or skip local minima

16:33

Rtfp (read the fucking paper)

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zhn

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do this if you are insane

lolwat

I don't think this is that bad

17:23

If you need a local sqlite on the client you can also upload it to postgres to query on your server

I mean maaaybe useful if you can have queries that can reach within the sqlite sub-db, like with jsonb columns

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17:34

256 players... how?

magic

i dont even want to imagine how ugly it looks... - it's easy to set it up, but it will just look and probably feel bad

Evelyn

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Some just lie about it (which is against the masterserver rules)

17:57

Or someone actually did spend the time to extend the 128p patch to a 256p patch

@heinrich5991 here is another attempt to request an increase in the size of the JSON accepted by the master server to 32KB. Currently, if I don't send the skin, send an empty clan, and set the score to zero, I can fit about 134 players. Without these tricks, the maximum is around 89 players. The remaining fields are mandatory and cannot be removed; otherwise, the client will drop the server information. I plan to compress the JSON later by removing line breaks, but unfortunately, even that won't be enough. I made approximate calculations without considering the JSON limitations, focusing more on the size of server data: Approximate maximum size of server information: 410 bytes Approximate maximum size of information per player: 256 bytes Thus, in the maximum case: 64 players: 410 + 256 * 64 = 16,794 bytes 128 players: 33,178 bytes 256 players: 65,949 bytes If compression is applied: 64 players: 13,209 bytes (345 + 201 * 64) 128 players: 26,073 bytes 256 players: 51,801 bytes Since the client sorts players by score, I can optimize this by sorting on the server side and sending, for example, only the top 64 players with skins, while the rest are sent without skins. This could reduce the information for 256 players to 35,162 bytes (410 + 12,864 + 21,888). If only 32 skins are sent, the total would be 32,378 bytes.

19:07

Samples:

{
  "max_clients": 256,
  "max_players": 256,
  "passworded": false,
  "game_type": "XXXXXXXXXXXXX",
  "name": "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX",
  "map": {
    "name": "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX",
    "sha256": "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX",
    "size": 1111111
  },
  "version": "XXXXXXXXXXXXX",
  "client_score_kind": "XXXXXX",
  "requires_login": false,
  "clients": [
  ]
}

{
  "name": "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX",
  "clan": "XXXXXXXXXXX",
  "country": 111,
  "score": 11111,
  "is_player": false,
  "skin": {
    "name": "XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX",
    "color_body": 11111111,
    "color_feet": 11111111
  },
  "afk": false,
  "team": 1
},

Evelyn

256 players... how?

translation magic

I think I'll create issue on github to not lose conversation details

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #9266 Increase in the size of the JSON accepted by the master server to 32KB

Here is another attempt to request an increase in the size of the JSON accepted by the master server to 32KB. Currently, if I don't send the skin, send an empty clan, and set the score to zero, I can fit about 134 players. Without these tricks, the maximum is around 89 players. The remaining fields are mandatory and cannot be removed; otherwise, the client will drop the server information. I plan to compress the JSON later by removing line breaks, but unfortunately, even that won't be enough....

use protocol buffers when nouis

nouis

19:53

(this comment was not sponsored by google)

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #9267 Move texture scale initialization and conchain to CMapImages

Avoid unnecessary indirection in the gameclient by moving the initialization of the texture scale and the conchain for the cl_text_entities_size variable directly to CMapImages. Remove the unused CMapImages constructor accepting a texture scale value that is never used.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially ba...

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

7011113 Move texture scale initialization and conchain to CMapImages - Robyt3 6f3cb5e Merge pull request #9267 from Robyt3/Client-MapImages-TextureScale-Cleanup - def-

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #9267 Move texture scale initialization and conchain to CMapImages

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